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How Does Violence in Media Affect Cops?
« on: December 18, 2014, 02:10:19 pm »

People talk all the time about how stuff like violent video games affects kids, but EVERY SINGLE COP in movies and tv is a gun-toting, wise-cracking, street-fighting rogue who bends the law to uphold it:

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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2014, 03:02:15 pm »
I don't know much about being a police officer, but I'm not sure it was done any more professionally when Andy Griffith and CHiPs were on.

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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2014, 03:13:16 pm »
I don't know much about being a police officer, but I'm not sure it was done any more professionally when Andy Griffith and CHiPs were on.

I was hoping for cops inspired by Super Troopers and Police Academy. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2014, 03:17:34 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2014, 03:29:41 pm »
I was hoping for cops inspired by Super Troopers and Police Academy. 

The cops from Superbad seemed pretty cool.

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2014, 03:40:18 pm »
I was hoping for cops inspired by Super Troopers and Police Academy. 

Something along the lines of Sgt. Stedenko would be kind of all right.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 07:35:32 pm »
The cops from Superbad seemed pretty cool.

I originally included the clip from Superbad where the cops apologize for cockblocking McLovin, but youtube kept flagging it as a 3rd party copyright match no matter what source i used, so i replaced it with the clip of the skateboarding cop.

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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2014, 08:26:11 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2014, 08:54:34 pm »
Something along the lines of Sgt. Stedenko would be kind of all right.


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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2014, 07:59:57 am »
In various degrees, I think violence has an affect on people from all walks of life. It is still never an excuse for improper behavior. Another side of things is, why are TV shows and movies about nice people helping other people and kids learning positive life lessons and shit like that, so fucking boring, unless they're in cartoon format and sometimes even still.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2014, 08:36:19 am »
In various degrees, I think violence has an affect on people from all walks of life. It is still never an excuse for improper behavior. Another side of things is, why are TV shows and movies about nice people helping other people and kids learning positive life lessons and shit like that, so fucking boring, unless they're in cartoon format and sometimes even still.

That's not true, especially this time of year.  Think of all your favorite Christmas movies:  Die Hard, Die Hard II, Lethal Weapon, Home Alone, Home Alone II . . .
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2014, 12:32:54 pm »
ok so I am slow how did we go from die hard to home alone
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Re: How Does Violence in Media Affect Cops?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2014, 03:00:11 pm »
In various degrees, I think violence has an affect on people from all walks of life. It is still never an excuse for improper behavior. Another side of things is, why are TV shows and movies about nice people helping other people and kids learning positive life lessons and shit like that, so fucking boring, unless they're in cartoon format and sometimes even still.

There's a big difference between positive images and 'positivity' as a genre. The positivity genre is almost always bland and moralistic in a Sunday School way because it is delusional about the realities of humanity, particularly its assumption that there are no gray areas in life, only a black or white conception of good and bad. The clip from Superbad we were mentioning earlier is a great example of real positivity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fls3z7Me2Dc) because it shows people (esp. authority figures) setting aside their negative emotions and sharing a positive moment the way real people could. This scene, however, would never appear in the positivity genre because of the language used, and the tacit approval of underage sex. But even if it were clean, it would still never appear in the positivity genre because it depicts people who are conflicted by their societal responsibilities (cops upholding the law, teenager avoiding trouble) vs. their natural human urges to love and cooperate. The positivity genre does not acknowledge honest conflict, which is why it's so boring to anybody who's not delusional and sheltered themselves.
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2014, 08:12:36 pm »
There's a big difference between positive images and 'positivity' as a genre. The positivity genre is almost always bland and moralistic in a Sunday School way because it is delusional about the realities of humanity, particularly its assumption that there are no gray areas in life, only a black or white conception of good and bad. The clip from Superbad we were mentioning earlier is a great example of real positivity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fls3z7Me2Dc) because it shows people (esp. authority figures) setting aside their negative emotions and sharing a positive moment the way real people could. This scene, however, would never appear in the positivity genre because of the language used, and the tacit approval of underage sex. But even if it were clean, it would still never appear in the positivity genre because it depicts people who are conflicted by their societal responsibilities (cops upholding the law, teenager avoiding trouble) vs. their natural human urges to love and cooperate. The positivity genre does not acknowledge honest conflict, which is why it's so boring to anybody who's not delusional and sheltered themselves.

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2014, 02:08:20 pm »
ok so I am slow how did we go from die hard to home alone

They are Christmas movies.

Not like Trading Places is a Christmas movie, but still.

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2014, 02:15:09 pm »
They are Christmas movies.

Not like Trading Places is a Christmas movie, but still.

Last week at our office Christmas Holiday lunch, the boss went around and asked everyone what their favorite Christmas movie was.  Someone said Trading Places.  I wish I'd have.
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2014, 02:37:00 pm »
Last week at our office Christmas Holiday lunch, the boss went around and asked everyone what their favorite Christmas movie was.  Someone said Trading Places.  I wish I'd have.

I'm more literal, and would go with "Bad Santa", but I love the obtuseness of picking a Christmas-set, not Christmas-themed movie.  Also, answering "Die Hard?" to Mrs Limey asking if I want to watch a Christmas movie is a meme in our household.
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2014, 10:16:41 pm »
They are Christmas movies.

Not like Trading Places is a Christmas movie, but still.

I need to pay more attention, I thought that the violence was the point being made?
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