Author Topic: 2004 NLCS (Read 5772 times)

Bench · « **on:** October 16, 2014, 10:44:43 am »

Footer put together an oral history of the 2004 NLCS

Lot's of interesting insights about the games themselves, but then Footer will of course throw in something like this: The fact that the Astros stopped opening the roof in '04, Clemens' first year with the team, was hardly coincidental.

Bench · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2014, 10:59:21 am »

Kent: Personally, I don't have anything against Edmonds. But I do not like him, as an opponent, because of things like that.... I remember playing against him in Anaheim. I just didn't like him. When he did that, it just created more anger, more hatred for me. It was all professional -- professional hatred. Not personal. But he was personally taking the life and hope out of me. Watching it unfold, it was bad. That was bad.

drew corleone · « **Reply #2 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:37:16 pm »

Good read. I think that postseason was when I joined OWA.

hostros7 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:41:30 pm »

So, that's what it's like to feel feelings again . . .

T. J. · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:44:56 pm »

Thanks for that. Game 5 is still the best game I've attended in person. And good grief, the noise at the end. I think my ears are still ringing.

Bench · « **Reply #5 on:** October 16, 2014, 01:52:15 pm »

Quote from: T. J. on October 16, 2014, 12:44:56 pm

Game 5 is still the best game I've attended in person. And good grief, the noise at the end. I think my ears are still ringing.

Me too.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2014, 02:13:31 pm »

"What happens a lot of times with media -- and stats do back it up at times -- is we hear, no team has ever done this, or that, or whatever."

Classic Biggio quote right there.

Limey · « **Reply #7 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:23:09 pm »

Quote from: T. J. on October 16, 2014, 12:44:56 pm

Thanks for that. Game 5 is still the best game I've attended in person. And good grief, the noise at the end. I think my ears are still ringing.

Eh? What?

I was there too.

Limey · « **Reply #8 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:26:28 pm »

Oh, and let's not forget that the Cards went into the WS and committed eleventy-one errors in the first game and got swept.

If Clemens was a fraction of the pitcher he says he is, the Astros go into the WS leading off with Oswalt, and give the Sox a run for their money.

Limey · « **Reply #9 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:43:53 pm »

FWIW, one Englishman's viewpoint of the same homestand.

drew corleone · « **Reply #10 on:** October 16, 2014, 07:25:44 pm »

"Mutherfuckin' soupbone" does not get used in this forum nearly enough anymore.

NeilT · « **Reply #11 on:** October 16, 2014, 07:40:31 pm »

I'm not sure I recall proper usage.

subnuclear · « **Reply #12 on:** October 16, 2014, 07:55:08 pm »

A soupbone is dropped, I believe.

roadrunner · « **Reply #13 on:** October 16, 2014, 08:10:28 pm »

I'm really glad Footer put that together. I was thinking about this and 05 yesterday trying to remember which game/year had each moment. The Kent homer in Game 5 was the first time I realistically felt like we were going to win the WS. Everything up to that just felt like a fun little ride to eventual disappointment, even though we had finally beaten the Braves in the first round.

I was at game 4 of the 04 series with my family. Things I remember from that game: Raul Chavez getting the game tying bloop single, my mom breaking her hip jumping for the Beltran homer, and not being able to hear myself think in the 9th because Minute Maid was so loud. Easily the best sporting event I have ever been to, and I have been fortunate to see some pretty cool stuff. Because I'm bored and it's the offseason, top moments for me at Minute Maid:

1) Game 4 of 04 NLCS
2) Biggio 3000
3) Biggio last game
4) Ausmus last game (surprisingly really well done, fun, sort of emotional)
5) Bonds 70th homer (team was out of it and I bought into the "part of history")

Waldo · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2014, 10:10:37 am »

I look back fondly on the Fort Minute Maid days. Hopefully we'll see them again in the not too distant future.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2014, 10:32:57 am »

Cardinal fans have been reading it too, and the general reaction is: "Jeff Kent is a huge prick."

JimR · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2014, 10:44:15 am »

that was such a great game last night. I love playoff baseball.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2014, 10:52:07 am »

Quote from: JimR on October 17, 2014, 10:44:15 am

that was such a great game last night. I love playoff baseball.

I missed last night's, but I've watched most of the others. Every mistake is magnified in October. Make the plays or go home. The Giants seem to have gotten the memo, while the Cardinals didn't.

JimR · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2014, 10:53:00 am »

Ishikawa put one of the greatest swings on that ball I have ever seen.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2014, 11:32:51 am »

Quote from: JimR on October 17, 2014, 10:44:15 am

that was such a great game last night. I love playoff baseball.

+1 Multiple DFA player hits walk-off, series clinching bomb. Central casting couldn't have written a better script. The Giants are in without Matt Cain and with a shell of what Tim Lincecum used to be. The Giants bench is young in big league service time too.

Duke · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2014, 11:33:45 am »

I loved it. What an unlikely hero. Spends most of the year in the minors and the sends his team into the WS with a 3 run walk-off. Holywood stuff.

chuck · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2014, 11:50:19 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 17, 2014, 10:32:57 am

Cardinal fans have been reading it too, and the general reaction is: "Jeff Kent is a huge prick."

This comes as a surprise to some people?

Bench · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2014, 12:09:46 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 17, 2014, 11:50:19 am

This comes as a surprise to some people?

I guess Survivor isn't a big hit in St. Louis.

Limey · « **Reply #23 on:** October 17, 2014, 12:13:33 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 17, 2014, 10:32:57 am

Cardinal fans have been reading it too, and the general reaction is: "Jeff Kent is a huge prick."

Say the BFiBs who cheered on Edmunds and Pooholes for years.

roadrunner · « **Reply #24 on:** October 17, 2014, 03:01:38 pm »

Quote from: JimR on October 17, 2014, 10:44:15 am

I love playoff baseball.

Playoff baseball > anything else in sports

Waldo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2014, 03:37:53 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 17, 2014, 12:13:33 pm

Say the BFiBs who cheered on Edmunds and Pooholes for years.

And Julian Tavarez.

The Spleen · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2014, 07:33:33 pm »

Quote from: JimR on October 17, 2014, 10:53:00 am

Ishikawa put one of the greatest swings on that ball I have ever seen.

Many Jakes were harmed in the making of this picture.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #27 on:** October 18, 2014, 01:11:02 am »

Quote from: Waldo on October 17, 2014, 03:37:53 pm

And Julian Tavarez.

You just had to go and dod that, didn't you. My 2014 had been Tavarez-free until just now.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #28 on:** October 18, 2014, 10:25:42 am »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on October 18, 2014, 01:11:02 am

You just had to go and dod that, didn't you. My 2014 had been Tavarez-free until just now.

One day at a time.

Waldo · « **Reply #29 on:** October 18, 2014, 02:19:02 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on October 18, 2014, 01:11:02 am

You just had to go and dod that, didn't you. My 2014 had been Tavarez-free until just now.

Ain't no thing. The Minute Maid bullpen phone got the better of him in 2004, and the Astros exacted revenge on him in 2005. It's not as bad as with a certain player from a certain previous postseason series.