Adrian Peterson indicted for child abuse

[Nate Colbert]

@MarkBermanFox26  58m

Sources: RB Adrian Peterson indicted for reckless or negligent injury to a child N Montgomery County.His atty Rustin Hardin declined comment

[Navin R Johnson]

Is child abuse the same as negligence? 

Just read this... "“Arrest of Adrian Peterson (reported by @MarkBermanFox26) stems from the disciplining of a son with a switch, source says. He’s been indicted.”

[Bench]

He hired the right attorney.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

I think I might have been abused as a child. My parents used a belt on me. They used to spank my behind with it when I misbehaved. No wonder I turned out like this. Fuck.

[BizidyDizidy]

Not sure it's the same

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/

[Ron Brand]

Fucking animals. And now there's a woman who it appears killed and buried her two-year-old son in Austin a couple of months ago. They'd been living out of her car, but she's been Facebooking about how she's pregnant and can't wait to see her new baby. As you might imagine, the ex-husband is a real piece of shit too. The kid never had a chance.

Fucking animals.

[BizidyDizidy]

I was spanked growing up and it wasn't a big deal. I also have an (almost) 4 year old son. Reading that article was sickening on multiple levels.

[Lefty]

I was spanked growing up and it wasn't a big deal. I also have an (almost) 4 year old son. Reading that article was sickening on multiple levels.

I couldn't make it through the 2nd text/quote..  I got spanked as a kid, but that is something completely different.

[BizidyDizidy]

Warning, pic:

http://i.imgur.com/s8nHifi.png

This is a 4 year old.

ETA: These were apparently a WEEK afterwards

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

I wanted to give Adrian Peterson the benefit of the doubt on this, thinking it might be one of his several baby mammas stirring up shit. But, after reading his own account of the "whooping," it seems like he is just another all-brawn-no-brains miscreant with shitty judgement and no impulse control.

[HudsonHawk]

I think I might have been abused as a child. My parents used a belt on me. They used to spank my behind with it when I misbehaved. No wonder I turned out like this. Fuck.

My parents used everything including the switch.  The worst part was that I had to go cut my own from the camphor tree in the backyard.

[Fredia]

you beat me to about what i was going to say but mine was a crepe myrtle bush...tree. it hurt

[hostros7]

Sounds like the kid was fortunate his doctor was not Roger Goodell.

[MusicMan]

AP is strong enough that his handshake is routinely described as "crushing".

I somehow think that spanking with an open palm would have been MORE than enough "discipline".

I sincerely hope he is convicted.

[Dark Star]

Peterson un-suspended.

[geezerdonk]

If your name is Zygi Wilf, you can do no wrong in my book.

[Ron Brand]

Chickenshit cocksucking bastards. Fuck all of you.

[Dark Star]

Chickenshit cocksucking bastards. Fuck all of you.

Cris Carter kind of goes off.

I hate to be cynical. I hate to be cynical. But the first thing that occurred to me after reading the Wilf's statement/excuse, was that getting smoked by NO had more to do with the reinstatement than any concerns for due process. Or, you know, the child.

Of course, that's probably not it.

[Dark Star]

Adrian Peterson's other son.

[subnuclear]

How many 4-year old sons does he have?

[BizidyDizidy]

Apparently 7 fathered total (presumably that includes the 2 year old that died last year)

[geezerdonk]

Closing in fast on Travis Henry.

[Duke]

My parents used everything including the switch.  The worst part was that I had to go cut my own from the camphor tree in the backyard.

My folks would send me out to cut one from a china berry tree.  And it better be big enough too.

[JimR]

My folks would send me out to cut one from a china berry tree.  And it better be big enough too.

my grandmother made us get one from a willow tree. ouch.

[BudGirl]

my grandmother made us get one from a willow tree. ouch.

please, that is quick and easy.  My grandma made the bad ones kneel in a field.

[Ron Brand]

Luxury.

[HudsonHawk]

Peterson re-suspended. Apparently he's now on double super secret probation.

[Dark Star]

Peterson re-suspended. Apparently he's now on double super secret probation.

I haven't had occasion to use the term in awhile, so I'd like to thank the Wilf brothers for giving me the opportunity to call them mealy-mouthed.

[Lefty]

my grandmother made us get one from a willow tree. ouch.

The best method I can remember for breaking up a "fight" between us kids was my great-grandmother lightly slapping us around the facial area with a cold damp dishrag.  Just an awful feeling and smell.

[Dark Star]

Jon Stewart: The NFL doesn't know what it's doing

" ... particularly galling to Stewart was the Minnesota Vikings’ decision to deactivate Adrian Peterson after his arrest on a child-abuse charge, then activate him, the deactivate him until his legal case is resolved. The last move came only after sponsors, most significantly Anheuser-Busch, applied pressure.

“How crazy is this?” Stewart asked. “A company that sells alcohol is the moral touchstone of the NFL. Alcohol, maybe one of the only substances that is proven scientifically to increase the likelihood of domestic abuse. That company is saying to the NFL, ‘You guys got a real problem here.’”

[jbm]

I thought Arian Foster said basically the same thing.  He's probably caught some shit for it though.

[Duman]

After Nike pulled AP stuff from their stores, someone tweeted: "When Nike is offended at your treatment of children, you have a problems" - priceless

[Limey]

I am waiting for the NFL to the men of Atlanta, who are putting a beating on the boys of Tampa Bay tonight. 

Too soon?

[MusicMan]

After Nike pulled AP stuff from their stores, someone tweeted: "When Nike is offended at your treatment of children, you have a problems" - priceless

Also priceless... from Bill Simmons' column today:

Q: Who am I?
1. I have lots of raw talent and good intentions but suffer at least two or three major blunders a year

2. My fans had high expectations for me when I took over but I have disappointed them for the past six years.

3. There are large factions of people that hate me (especially in Texas)

4. The media loves to criticize me while taking tons of cheap shots.

5. I may have checked out for the year

6. Because of my contract my team is stuck with me for two more years.

Am I ….

A. Tony Romo
B. Barack Obama

[Limey]

"Vikings Coach Maintains Confidence In Christian Ponder's Ability To Hand Ball To Adrian Peterson"
 - The Onion

The above being from December 2012.  Prescient.

[HudsonHawk]

Latest on AP...apparently he showed up for his court date today having "smoked a little weed", violating the terms of his bond. He's reportedly been arrested again.

[Limey]

Latest on AP...apparently he showed up for his court date today having "smoked a little weed", violating the terms of his bond. He's reportedly been arrested again.

Some people are just too stupid to stay out of jail.

[austro]

Latest on AP...apparently he showed up for his court date today having "smoked a little weed", violating the terms of his bond. He's reportedly been arrested again.

Shouldn't Rusty have made it very clear to him that he needs to walk a very straight line for a while?

[Ebby Calvin]

Some people are just too stupid to stay out of jail Sooners.

FIFY

[HudsonHawk]

Shouldn't Rusty have made it very clear to him that he needs to walk a very straight line for a while?

I'm assuming Rusty told him "don't smoke weed while you're out on bond", but as Limey says, some people are just too stupid.  

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Peterson should have smoked a little weed before he decided to whack his kid's nuts with a swtich. Then he could have just told the kid he wouldn't share his Ritz Crackers and Cheese-Whiz if the kid didn't start to behave.

[Limey]

Peterson pleads down to one count of misdemeanor reckless assault.

So that's all ok now.

[Nate Colbert]

Kicked out of the league for the rest of the season. NFLPA howls.

[BizidyDizidy]

The right outcome (in other words, my wife snaked him from me on the waiver wire recently and I am feeling petty).

[Bench]

Kicked out of the league for the rest of the season. NFLPA howls.

I hope it's not lost on Peterson or the NFLPA that they are seeking legal redress for excessive discipline.  Too bad his kid didn't get a chance to appeal to a neutral arbitrator. 

[Limey]

Kicked out of the league for the rest of the season. NFLPA howls.

So now we know:  beating a adult > beating a child.

Or maybe it's beating a adult on video > anything done without video evidence.

[Fredia]

wait you can do something today and not have it o n video. amazing

[Limey]

I hope it's not lost on Peterson or the NFLPA that they are seeking legal redress for excessive discipline.  Too bad his kid didn't get a chance to appeal to a neutral arbitrator. 

So what does the arbitrators decision on Rice do to Peterson's chances?  Follow-up: how much do the NFL's lawyers suck?

[Bench]

So what does the arbitrators decision on Rice do to Peterson's chances?  Follow-up: how much do the NFL's lawyers suck?

You mean how much does Goodell suck?

[HudsonHawk]

So what does the arbitrators decision on Rice do to Peterson's chances?  Follow-up: how much do the NFL's lawyers suck?

Does it affect Peterson at all?  The NFL got blasted on the Rice case because they punished him once then wanted to punish him again for the same offense.  That's not the case with Peterson.

[Limey]

Does it affect Peterson at all?  The NFL got blasted on the Rice case because they punished him once then wanted to punish him again for the same offense.  That's not the case with Peterson.

Agreed.  But Peterson is arguing excessive punishment, and can now point to 2 games being the amount for cold-cocking a grownup...

[HudsonHawk]

Agreed.  But Peterson is arguing excessive punishment, and can now point to 2 games being the amount for cold-cocking a grownup...

I guess the other side of that is "they wanted to give him more, but shot their wad in their pants while their zipper was stuck."

[Limey]

I guess the other side of that is "they wanted to give him more, but shot their wad in their pants while their zipper was stuck."

Of course.  But the precedent was set and upheld in arbitration.

[Bench]

Agreed.  But Peterson is arguing excessive punishment, and can now point to 2 games being the amount for cold-cocking a grownup...

I thought the issue was also being punished twice for the same thing.  There was some sort of agreement that AP would be placed onto the commissioner's list until the criminal process was worked out and that would be the punishment.  Then, Goodell turned around and suspended him again once the plea deal was entered.

[HudsonHawk]

Of course.  But the precedent was set and upheld in arbitration.

There was no precedent on the amount of punishment set.  The arbitor simply upheld the prohibition on double jeopardy.

[Bench]

Pendergast has a good post on the subject this morning, but I fully agree with this quote from Rusty:

"[Goodell is] doing it solely in response to the human cry regarding [his] screw-ups. I've said all along that [Peterson] has been thrown into the maelstrom of something that is not comparable to what he did but because the NFL looked so bad in the way they handled [Ray Rice]...they just flat-out lied about what they knew when they imposed their first punishment [on Rice], and when they got their hand caught in the cookie jar, they decided to swing at everybody."

[Limey]

Pendergast has a good post on the subject this morning, but I fully agree with this quote from Rusty:

"[Goodell is] doing it solely in response to the human cry regarding [his] screw-ups. I've said all along that [Peterson] has been thrown into the maelstrom of something that is not comparable to what he did but because the NFL looked so bad in the way they handled [Ray Rice]...they just flat-out lied about what they knew when they imposed their first punishment [on Rice], and when they got their hand caught in the cookie jar, they decided to swing at everybody."

This is obviously what is happening.  Goodell is (irony intended) ducking and weaving to keep his job.  So far, he looks more like Sideshow Bob.

[BizidyDizidy]

Human cry?

[Bench]

Human cry?

Rusty gonna rusty.

[BizidyDizidy]

Rusty gonna rusty.

My fascination is whether Rusty said "Hue and Cry" and the transcription is wrong or vice versa.

[Bench]

My fascination is whether Rusty said "Hue and Cry" and the transcription is wrong or vice versa.

I'm going with the former. 

[Limey]

Human cry?

Saw that too.  I'm guessing "hue and cry", which is a well known phrase, and also the name of an 80s one-hit-wonder from Scotland*.


* Which is why it's about hating Margaret Thatcher.

[Nate Colbert]

Appeal denied as the suspension is upheld. Heading for courts.

[Limey]

Pendergast has a good post on the subject this morning, but I fully agree with this quote from Rusty:

"[Goodell is] doing it solely in response to the human cry regarding [his] screw-ups. I've said all along that [Peterson] has been thrown into the maelstrom of something that is not comparable to what he did but because the NFL looked so bad in the way they handled [Ray Rice]...they just flat-out lied about what they knew when they imposed their first punishment [on Rice], and when they got their hand caught in the cookie jar, they decided to swing at everybody."

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller has completed his investigation into the NFL's actions over Ray Rice:

Robert Mueller’s account of the NFL’s investigation of the incident is a tale of internal miscommunication, egregious misunderstandings and an uncooperative New Jersey police force. But it clears NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and senior league officials of allegations of having seen and ignored the graphic video, which is at the center of the case.

Basically, the NFL didn't act quickly enough or push hard enough to find out exactly what happened, but otherwise was accurate in its claims of what it knew (or didn't know) and when.  No mention of whether their lack of action was accidental or on purpose.  They've been told to pull their socks up.

So that's that, then.

[Limey]

Now the Colts' Josh McNary has been charged with rape.  Let's see how the league and the Colts handle this with the AFC Championship game coming up on Sunday.

[HudsonHawk]

Now the Colts' Josh McNary has been charged with rape.  Let's see how the league and the Colts handle this with the AFC Championship game coming up on Sunday.

McNary (who is from Houston, BTW) has been placed on the exempt list, the same status that Peterson occupied during his legal trouble. 

[Limey]

Oh look, the NFL had the photos of the horrific injuries Greg Hardy inflicted on his girlfriend back in April.  Nice to see that they've got this whole domestic violence thing sorted out, then.

[Duman]

Oh look, the NFL had the photos of the horrific injuries Greg Hardy inflicted on his girlfriend back in April.  Nice to see that they've got this whole domestic violence thing sorted out, then.

The NFL suspended him for 10 games which was more than anyother player had been suspended for similar actions by a long shot. The suspension was reduced to 4 games due to the fact that it happened under the previous CBA.  The only group that can legally do anything is the Cowboys who could release him.  However, they would probably still have to pay him his salary. 

Good summary of situation here.

[MusicMan]

Karma: The Cowboys are 0-4 when Hardy plays.

Fuck 'em.

[Limey]

The NFL suspended him for 10 games which was more than anyother player had been suspended for similar actions by a long shot. The suspension was reduced to 4 games due to the fact that it happened under the previous CBA.  The only group that can legally do anything is the Cowboys who could release him.  However, they would probably still have to pay him his salary. 

Good summary of situation here.

Thanks.  I guess the overarching question is whether a 10-game suspension is appropriate punishment.  The last paragraph of the article being relevant in this regard:

One more thing (and this is a bit of a digression). Lots of Cowboy players love their moms, wives, sisters and daughters. While we often hear the party line that players rally around an embattled teammate, you have to imagine that a lot of Cowboy players are troubled, if not sickened, working side by side with Hardy. Imagine if your office at work was beside a guy who did what Hardy did. Uncomfortable to say the least.

I don't have to imagine it, because I know that such a man would not be working at my office; he'd be fired.

[Dark Star]

And this.