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Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« on: September 11, 2014, 11:16:12 am »
With the Astros now utilizing a 6-man rotation, it appears questionable that Collin McHugh will get 3 more starts.   Collin needs 20 more IP to Qualify for a Top 6 finish in the league in ERA.  That would give the Astros 2 pitchers in the Top 7 in ERA, joining the current #6 Dallas Keuchel.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/league/al/order/false

Do the Astros care at all about giving McHugh a chance to qualify for season leaderboards?  Will they somehow tweak the 6 man rotation to give Collin that 3rd start?

Here is the current starting pitcher plan: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/hou/houston-astros
McHugh pitched on Tuesday 9/9.  He is scheduled to pitch only twice more.
Tuesday 9/16
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 05:58:36 am »
With the Astros now utilizing a 6-man rotation, it appears questionable that Collin McHugh will get 3 more starts.   Collin needs 20 more IP to Qualify for a Top 6 finish in the league in ERA.  That would give the Astros 2 pitchers in the Top 7 in ERA, joining the current #6 Dallas Keuchel.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/league/al/order/false

Do the Astros care at all about giving McHugh a chance to qualify for season leaderboards?  Will they somehow tweak the 6 man rotation to give Collin that 3rd start?

Here is the current starting pitcher plan: http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/hou/houston-astros
McHugh pitched on Tuesday 9/9.  He is scheduled to pitch only twice more.
Tuesday 9/16
Monday 9/22

Last game of the year is Sunday 9/28.

Looks more likely now (as long as he continues to pitch well) since he's moved up one slot to start today.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 08:06:47 am »
Even so, he'll need to last 6 2/3 in each of the starts to get there.  This is just over his season average...no guarantee.  Hope the kid gets there - it will be a big boost for the organization to have that leaderboard.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 09:46:05 am »
Even so, he'll need to last 6 2/3 in each of the starts to get there.  This is just over his season average...no guarantee.  Hope the kid gets there - it will be a big boost for the organization to have that leaderboard.

Considering how close he is innings-wise I don't think he has to be a "qualifier" for the org to feel confident that his season isn't a fluke.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 12:05:10 pm »
Considering how close he is innings-wise I don't think he has to be a "qualifier" for the org to feel confident that his season isn't a fluke.

That's fair.  Thought it would be nice to have two in the top 6 ERA, 1 in the top 2 of HR, top for average and SB.  Springer too will be up there in HR for a rookie, despite playing in half of the games.  It simply underscores the fact that there is some quality talent on the team - very unlike last year.  It may be helpful as a recruiting tool for FA's and honestly, some wayward fans.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 01:05:26 pm »
Looks more likely now (as long as he continues to pitch well) since he's moved up one slot to start today.

Thanks for the update.   ESPN has updated the rotation for the rest of the year, with Collin filled in 3 times.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/hou/houston-astros

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 09:12:27 pm »
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P (Collin) MCHUGH (LEFT ARM) LEFT GAME TOP 7TH

For those of us without Astros TV, was this serious?  Collin needed to average 6.2 IP over his final 3 starts to qualify.  He left tonight's game after exactly that.  He was on pace to go much deeper based on a low pitch count.  Too bad about the injury.

If he's healthy enough to start 2 more games, he'll need 13.1 IP to qualify.  

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 09:15:45 pm »
Hard to say. It could just leave an awful welt, or it might have broken one of those lower arm bones. Didn't  noticeably swell though.

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2014, 09:15:49 pm »
For those of us without Astros TV, was this serious?  Collin needed to average 6.2 IP over his final 3 starts to qualify.  He left tonight's game after exactly that.  He was on pace to go much deeper based on a low pitch count.  Too bad about the injury.

If he's healthy enough to start 2 more games, he'll need 13.1 IP to qualify. 

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2014, 09:42:08 pm »
He has a contusion on his left forearm according to McTaggart and the broadcasters.

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2014, 10:38:46 pm »
It didn't look like they were pulling him because he was hurt for certain, it looked like they were pulling him because it's September in a meaningless game and why take any chances?
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 07:42:13 am »
It didn't look like they were pulling him because he was hurt for certain, it looked like they were pulling him because it's September in a meaningless game and why take any chances?

Yup.  Big welt and bruise.  He's expected to make the next start.

http://m.astros.mlb.com/news/article/94854508/houston-astros-right-hander-collin-mchugh-has-bruised-left-forearm-after-comebacker
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 09:13:59 am »
Yup.  Big welt and bruise.  He's expected to make the next start.

http://m.astros.mlb.com/news/article/94854508/houston-astros-right-hander-collin-mchugh-has-bruised-left-forearm-after-comebacker

Looking through that article, what an amazing run McHugh has been on.

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 09:31:32 am »
Looking through that article, what an amazing run McHugh has been on.

His curveball is filthy.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 09:47:26 am »
His curveball is filthy.

It really is.  10mph slower than his cutter but looks to come from the same trajectory.  Fastball to.  Must be frustrating for the hitters.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 09:51:38 am »
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2014, 10:02:24 am »
His curveball is filthy.

It's amazing just how dominant it is.  For a while now, he can't seem to get his fastball near the zone, and yet he still thrives. 

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 12:10:16 pm »
His curveball is filthy.
Just this morning I looked McHugh up in the 2013 BA Prospect Handbook (he was the Mets' #24 prospect). Check out the scouting report:
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...McHugh shares a few similarities with Gee in that he mixes and matches four pitches and seldom strays from the strike zone. Where Gee’s best pitch is a changeup, McHugh throws with a bit more velocity, as his fastball sits at 91-92 mph with tailing action. He spots the ball to both sides of the plate, forcing batters to consider inside/outside as well as up/down. McHugh’s changeup features reliable sinking action, while he induces some righthanders to chase a mid-80s slider that breaks horizontally. Righties hit .202/.259/.320 against him in the minors last year. A slow 11-to-5 curveball functions more as a surprise pitch and is his weakest offering. ...

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2014, 12:24:22 pm »
Speaking of oops, I dug this up the other day...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2612050.html

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2014, 01:09:48 pm »
Wade Miller 2.0?

He reminds me more of Shane Reynolds than WaMi.

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2014, 01:14:28 pm »
Speaking of oops, I dug this up the other day...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2612050.html



Either J.J. Cooper is wrong, or Jose Altuve is wrong.  It has to be Jose Altuve, because JJ Cooper could not be wrong.

I hope management takes the proper steps to send Altuve back to AAA.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2014, 02:02:29 pm »
Mr. Cooper actually owns up today to missing on Altuve. 

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2014, 12:13:31 am »
It didn't look like they were pulling him because he was hurt for certain, it looked like they were pulling him because it's September in a meaningless game and why take any chances?

Yep.  And that appears to be the thing that will keep Collin off the Qualified Leaderboard.  McHugh will need 7.1 IP in his final start to make it.  Not unheard of.  But especially against a team that's out of it, I doubt they'll keep him out there that long in New York.

But then again, Lawless may be aware of things like innings totals, as Keuchel got to exactly 200.0 IP before he was shut down.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2014, 12:28:45 am »
Yep.  And that appears to be the thing that will keep Collin off the Qualified Leaderboard.  McHugh will need 7.1 IP in his final start to make it.  Not unheard of.  But especially against a team that's out of it, I doubt they'll keep him out there that long in New York.

But then again, Lawless may be aware of things like innings totals, as Keuchel got to exactly 200.0 IP before he was shut down.
Yeah, I was surprised he got lifted from a 1-run game tonight at only 85 or so pitches; was there a reason given, or did he look gassed or anything? I was busy at the time and didn't notice.
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2014, 06:58:53 am »
He reminds me more of Shane Reynolds than WaMi.

He actually reminds me of Darryl Kile (RIP). 

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2014, 09:48:48 am »
Either J.J. Cooper is wrong, or Jose Altuve is wrong.  It has to be Jose Altuve, because JJ Cooper could not be wrong.

I hope management takes the proper steps to send Altuve back to AAA.

Reading his stuff on Trout is funny too.  Has Cooper ever been right on anything?
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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2014, 06:41:41 pm »
McHugh shut down, going to give Buchanan, Tropeana and Deduno the remaining starts.

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Re: Collin McHugh and Qualifying for ERA Leaderboard
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2014, 08:17:04 pm »
McHugh shut down, going to give Buchanan, Tropeana and Deduno the remaining starts.

Saw that too.  Too bad.  Still, a great season from Collin.