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« on: August 31, 2014, 02:25:27 pm »
I hate to see another day go by with no GameZone.  It's the bottom of the 4th, 1-1, 1 out.

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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 02:34:26 pm »
Both games are easy to summarize: great starting pitching and good defense for the good guys, while some scrub for the Rangers is baffling most of the Astros hitters. 
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2014, 02:50:59 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 31, 2014, 02:34:26 pm
Both games are easy to summarize: great starting pitching and good defense for the good guys, while some scrub for the Rangers is baffling most of the Astros hitters. 

And the failure to drive in Altuve twice after doubles.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 03:12:26 pm »
Singleton, for a good while now, is missing most every hittable pitch about one inch too low.  Would think they could address that.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 03:14:36 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 31, 2014, 03:12:26 pm
Singleton, for a good while now, is missing most every hittable pitch about one inch too low.  Would think they could address that.

Chop his feet off?
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2014, 03:16:57 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 31, 2014, 03:12:26 pm
Singleton, for a good while now, is missing most every hittable pitch about one inch too low.  Would think they could address that.

I don't know if you are watching the Rangers TV broadcast but Grieve pointed out earlier in the game how many hittable pitches Singleton misses. He didn't know if it was just because he swung so hard or what.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2014, 03:20:24 pm »
Ground Control must have a big green tab next to Singleton's name.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2014, 03:24:13 pm »
Quote from: juliogotay on August 31, 2014, 03:16:57 pm
I don't know if you are watching the Rangers TV broadcast but Grieve pointed out earlier in the game how many hittable pitches Singleton misses. He didn't know if it was just because he swung so hard or what.
Oh, it's true, but he is not fooled, or late, he's just a little off. Seems like something which could be corrected.

What's the green tab?
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2014, 03:30:14 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 31, 2014, 03:24:13 pm
Oh, it's true, but he is not fooled, or late, he's just a little off. Seems like something which could be corrected.

What's the green tab?

Maybe his head is not still enough through the swing. Or he needs vision correction.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2014, 03:34:19 pm »
Nice day by Altuve.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2014, 03:35:55 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on August 31, 2014, 03:34:19 pm
Nice day by Altuve.

Most days are nice days by Altuve.  I think they said on the radio that this was his 21st three-hit game.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2014, 03:42:15 pm »
His only out was probably the one he hit best. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2014, 03:47:28 pm »
This guy Mendez is a perfect example of a pitcher that it seems every team now has 2 or more of: young guys who you've never heard of, who throw 95-97 and have come up to the majors within the last year or so and immediately put up ERAs under 3 or even 2. I can't recall the last time the Astros have been able to find one of those guys; all of their 95+ guys have basically sucked: Rhiner Cruz, Cisnero, Zeid, Clemens ... I must've blocked out the others, but I know there have been others. Even Fields has had serious ups and downs, and Folty, though he's barely been up for a month.

Is this indicative of a problem identifying talent, or developing it, just shitty luck, what?
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2014, 04:09:06 pm »
Dominguez crushes one to tie the game up.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2014, 04:09:43 pm »
Matty boy with his 15th HR! Tie ballgame.  Yee Haw!
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2014, 04:11:08 pm »
Reuben, there's a 95 mph guy who is imploding.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2014, 04:11:34 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on August 31, 2014, 03:47:28 pm
This guy Mendez is a perfect example of a pitcher that it seems every team now has 2 or more of: young guys who you've never heard of, who throw 95-97 and have come up to the majors within the last year or so and immediately put up ERAs under 3 or even 2. I can't recall the last time the Astros have been able to find one of those guys; all of their 95+ guys have basically sucked: Rhiner Cruz, Cisnero, Zeid, Clemens ... I must've blocked out the others, but I know there have been others. Even Fields has had serious ups and downs, and Folty, though he's barely been up for a month.

Is this indicative of a problem identifying talent, or developing it, just shitty luck, what?

You're just trying to depress us right? Posing rhetorical questions that are just disturbing.

Maybe they're not looking for one-pitch 95+ guys?  Folty Friday was throwing everything well but his 95+ fastball, and it was constantly a ball.

Nice bomb by Dominguez.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2014, 04:12:09 pm »
And Mendez looked like dogshit Friday.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2014, 04:14:55 pm »
Marisnick is a hell of an athlete. Similar to Singleton, he doesn't look like crap at the plate, but the results are crap. Hopefully, time and experience will fix both of them.
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2014, 04:19:20 pm »
Go feel him up, Maddux.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2014, 04:20:05 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 31, 2014, 04:14:55 pm
Marisnick is a hell of an athlete. Similar to Singleton, he doesn't look like crap at the plate, but the results are crap. Hopefully, time and experience will fix both of them.
I hope so. There's a lot to like about Marisnick.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2014, 04:20:22 pm »
ALTUVE!
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2014, 04:21:01 pm »
God damn that was beautiful.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2014, 04:21:37 pm »
Busby and Grieve aren't great but are immensely more listenable than Lewin and Grieve were.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2014, 04:22:22 pm »
I think Marisnick is a world more comfortable than Singleton.

4 4-hit games for Altuve.
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2014, 04:22:22 pm »
I thought catchers weren't allowed to block the plate any more.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2014, 04:22:28 pm »
Hate to say it, but Martin is a fucking badass center fielder.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2014, 04:23:22 pm »
The ball was there way ahead of the  runner. That's one of those that is in the grey area.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2014, 04:24:08 pm »
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The ball was there way ahead of the  runner. That's one of those that is in the grey area.
yeah. Didn't look out of line to me.
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2014, 04:26:02 pm »
I don't have a very clear concept of what the new rule actually is.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2014, 04:26:55 pm »
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I don't have a very clear concept of what the new rule actually is.
You're not alone.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2014, 04:30:51 pm »
Go home sad, bandwagoners.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2014, 04:31:27 pm »
Great game.  Over .500 for August.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2014, 04:31:40 pm »
How does that boot fit?
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2014, 04:31:53 pm »
Nice series. Two come from behind wins and a complete game shutout.
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2014, 04:32:42 pm »
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Go home sad, bandwagoners.
Seriously, this is a welcome, tangible accomplishment this year.
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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2014, 04:33:23 pm »
Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on August 31, 2014, 04:31:40 pm
How does that boot fit?

Lube will help. Pointy side first.
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2014, 04:46:33 pm »
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Lube will help. Pointy side first.

Watching the Rangers take on water is very comforting to me.
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2014, 06:24:05 pm »
Now 11 wins in August September gives the Astros 70 wins for the season.

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Re: stRangers, 8/31/14
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2014, 07:00:21 pm »
September?
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« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2014, 07:14:01 pm »
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September?

Another 11 wins would be a miracle of epic proportions...
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2014, 07:19:38 pm »
As I recall they had almost no wins last September.
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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2014, 07:42:50 pm »
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As I recall they had almost no wins last September.

This team is much better than that. Without looking at the schedule I expect 11 wins in September.
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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2014, 08:10:29 pm »
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This team is much better than that. Without looking at the schedule I expect 11 wins in September.

8 games against the A's and Angels
6 games against the Mariners
3 against the Rangers
3 against the Indians
3 against the Mets

11-12 certainly doesn't seem out of reach, but I wouldn't call it expected.  The Astros went 15-14 in May and August, 8-17 in July, 12-15 in June and 9-19 in April.

If the team can go 5-4 against the Rangers/Indians/Mets and split the Mariners then they need only go 3-5 against the top teams to get there.
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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2014, 08:22:43 pm »
Quote from: NeilT on August 31, 2014, 07:19:38 pm
As I recall they had almost no wins last September.

They won 7 of the first 12 games of the month...
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« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2014, 08:31:24 pm »
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They won 7 of the first 12 games of the month...

That's impossibly better than I recall. I guess I just remember the rest of the month.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2014, 10:40:36 pm »
Quote from: juliogotay on August 31, 2014, 07:42:50 pm
This team is much better than that. Without looking at the schedule I expect 11 wins in September.

I confess, I'm rooting for those 11 wins because that would make me the winner of the Race for the Lid
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