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Lancaster - 2014
« on: April 01, 2014, 01:56:52 pm »
Thanks to Jayne @ What the Heck Bobby - we now have a preliminary Lancaster Roster

RHP Mark Appel
RHP Jamaine Cotton
RHP Chris Devenski
RHP Michael Dimock
RHP Vincent Velasquez
RHP Kyle Westwood
RHP Kyle Smith
LHP Josh Hader
RHP Mike Hauschild
LHP Mitch Lambson
RHP Lance McCullers
RHP Juan Minaya
RHP Daniel Minor
LHP J.D. Osborne
RHP Tyson Perez
C Roberto Pena
C Jake Rodriguez
3B Rio Ruiz
SS Carlos Correa
IF Tony Kemp
IF Carlos Perdomo
IF/OF Brandon Meredith (will be spending some time at first base)
OF Jordan Scott
OF Teoscar Hernandez
OF Danry Vasquez
OF Justin Gominsky
OF Dan Gulbransen

Notably absent is Telvin Nash
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2014, 02:06:53 pm »
Thanks to Jayne @ What the Heck Bobby - we now have a preliminary Lancaster Roster

RHP Mark Appel
RHP Jamaine Cotton
RHP Chris Devenski
RHP Michael Dimock
RHP Vincent Velasquez
RHP Kyle Westwood
RHP Kyle Smith
LHP Josh Hader
RHP Mike Hauschild
LHP Mitch Lambson
RHP Lance McCullers
RHP Juan Minaya
RHP Daniel Minor
LHP J.D. Osborne
RHP Tyson Perez
C Roberto Pena
C Jake Rodriguez
3B Rio Ruiz
SS Carlos Correa
IF Tony Kemp
IF Carlos Perdomo
IF/OF Brandon Meredith (will be spending some time at first base)
OF Jordan Scott
OF Teoscar Hernandez
OF Danry Vasquez
OF Justin Gominsky
OF Dan Gulbransen

Notably absent is Telvin Nash


I think Nash is in Corpus

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2014, 02:09:36 pm »
That is where you would expect him to be.  However, he is not on that roster either.  I suspect he is either injured or is going to be released.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2014, 02:18:42 pm »
Wow.. looks like the whole Quad Cities team from last year is now in Lancaster..

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2014, 02:26:50 pm »
That can be an awesome team with that pitching.

A lot of those other guys batting seem pretty good too.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2014, 02:29:01 pm »
Surprised to see that Juan Minaya is still around.  I always thought he had potential, but he hasn't performed very well.

Also, looking forward to a full season of Kemp.  

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2014, 02:59:30 pm »
I was hoping to see Chris Cotton on the same roster as Jamaine Cotton, but alas.

I assume SPs will be:

Appel
McCullers
Velasquez
Hader
Kyle Smith
Westwood
Devenski
and... Minor? Or was he shifted to the 'pen last year?

I feel bad for Tyson Perez. Already spent 2 full years at LAN.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 03:15:18 pm »


I feel bad for Tyson Perez. Already spent 2 full years at LAN.

I thought the same thing
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2014, 08:24:26 pm »
That can be an awesome team with that pitching.

A lot of those other guys batting seem pretty good too.
I agree.  Awesome pitching. And very encouraging that there are guys ahead of them keeping them from being rushed to AA.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2014, 09:05:58 pm »
I feel bad for Tyson Perez. Already spent 2 full years at LAN.

I thought the same thing

With a couple of more cuts to go (likely both pitchers), I wonder if he and Devenski can hang in there.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2014, 10:25:06 pm »
Rotation to start the season:

Thur. Velasquez/Westwood
Fri.   McCullers/Smith
Sat  Hader/Devenski
Sun   Appel/Hauschild

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2014, 08:15:08 am »
Really excited about this team. 

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2014, 07:07:46 pm »
Thanks to Jayne @ What the Heck Bobby - we now have a preliminary Lancaster Roster

RHP Mark Appel
RHP Jamaine Cotton
RHP Chris Devenski
RHP Michael Dimock
RHP Vincent Velasquez
RHP Kyle Westwood
RHP Kyle Smith
LHP Josh Hader
RHP Mike Hauschild
LHP Mitch Lambson
RHP Lance McCullers
RHP Juan Minaya
RHP Daniel Minor
LHP J.D. Osborne
RHP Tyson Perez
C Roberto Pena
C Jake Rodriguez
3B Rio Ruiz
SS Carlos Correa
IF Tony Kemp
IF Carlos Perdomo
IF/OF Brandon Meredith (will be spending some time at first base)
OF Jordan Scott
OF Teoscar Hernandez
OF Danry Vasquez
OF Justin Gominsky
OF Dan Gulbransen

Pitchers Dimock and Perez not on active roster for tonight's game.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2014, 08:38:46 am »
Lancaster starts the year out with an 8-2 victory over Lake Elsinore.  Velasquez was strong, striking out 7 in 4 innings, allowing just 2 hits against 3 walks and 1 run.  Correa and Kemp led the offense, with the 2B going 2-3 (single, double) with 2 walks and stepping on home four times.  Correa had 3 singles in 4 trips, driving in 4, with the one out scoring a runner, anyway.  Danry Vazquez had 2 singles in 4 plate appearances, also.  The win went to Westwood, who pitched the final 4 innings, allowing 1 run on 4 hits, fanning 1.    

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"It makes it feel like you don't have to swing as hard to be able to drive the ball or drive it out of the ballpark," Correa said. "Just keep your good swing and get a good pitch to hit and drive it. That gives you a lot more confidence."

Hopefully, that's a good sign that he won't let the environment affect his approach.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140404&content_id=70888594&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 10:39:34 am »
Lancaster starts the year out with an 8-2 victory over Lake Elsinore.  Velasquez was strong, striking out 7 in 4 innings, allowing just 2 hits against 3 walks and 1 run.  Correa and Kemp led the offense, with the 2B going 2-3 (single, double) with 2 walks and stepping on home four times.  Correa had 3 singles in 4 trips, driving in 4, with the one out scoring a runner, anyway.  Danry Vazquez had 2 singles in 4 plate appearances, also.  The win went to Westwood, who pitched the final 4 innings, allowing 1 run on 4 hits, fanning 1.    

Quote from the precocious Correa:

Hopefully, that's a good sign that he won't let the environment affect his approach.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140404&content_id=70888594&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2014, 09:47:00 pm »
Extremely impressive Cal League debut for 19 year-old Josh Hader--10 strikeouts in 4 innings.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2014, 08:28:42 pm »
Correa is off to a pretty good start 4 games in:

8 for 15 (.556) with a double and a HR.  He has one walk and 0 Ks.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2014, 08:06:00 pm »
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2014, 10:00:34 pm »
Another oustanding outing for VV tonite--scoreless 1-hit job over 5 IP. Allowed just 7 hits over his first 21 innings of work while K'ing 23. And 3 of his 5 outings have been at The Hangar.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2014, 07:43:10 am »
Nice write up by Eric Smith on VV. If you are not following him on twitter, I would recommend doing so.

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“This whole offseason was based on my curveball because it really needed a lot of improvements,” Velasquez said. “Last year it was just a get-over pitch but now it’s starting to be my out pitch.

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“I don’t envision him being here all year,” Linares said. “He’ll probably be one of the first ones (called up).
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2014, 11:19:50 am »
Nice write up by Eric Smith on VV. If you are not following him on twitter, I would recommend doing so.

Great read, thanks. I assume "Alexander" is the pitching coach? He doesn't identify him.

Did the Astros wait even a whole month before moving Folty from LAN to CC last year? I can't imagine VV sticking around too much longer.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2014, 11:55:29 am »
Great read, thanks. I assume "Alexander" is the pitching coach? He doesn't identify him.

Did the Astros wait even a whole month before moving Folty from LAN to CC last year? I can't imagine VV sticking around too much longer.

And still just 21.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 03:17:56 am »
This worries me..................

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#Astros Mark Appel pulled after recording one out in the 3rd inning. Got hit, but velo was down...88-91 for most part.


His final line for tonight was 2.1 ip, 6 h, 3 er, 1 bb, 2 so. His era is now 6.23.

Gray hasn't been great either but he's at AA and went 6 ip tonight with 0 bb and 8 so. He has 19 so and 3 bb in 18.1 AA innings.

Kris Bryant is mashing at AA with a .303/.432/.561 line. He has a real chance of being a 40 hr per year guy.

Hope we didn't pick the wrong guy out of the elite three guys from last year. And I really hope Appel is not hurt.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2014, 07:44:31 am »
I'm so out of it, what is a "TOOTBLAN."

At any rate, I suppose there is cause to worry as a 4-year, 1-1 pitcher should probably look better than he has.  But, there is still plenty of time for them to develop him.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 07:50:42 am »
I'm so out of it, what is a "TOOTBLAN."

At any rate, I suppose there is cause to worry as a 4-year, 1-1 pitcher should probably look better than he has.  But, there is still plenty of time for them to develop him.

TOOTBLAN is a new one on me too. I suspect that Appel is still a little behind from recovering from his appendectomy. I think that it is too early to press the panic button on him.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2014, 08:00:25 am »
After a google search, I learned that it is a SFA (stupid fucking acronym) for "thrown out on the basepaths like a nincompoot."  Invented no less by Ryan Theriot of FTC.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2014, 08:10:35 am »
After a google search, I learned that it is a SFA (stupid fucking acronym) for "thrown out on the basepaths like a nincompoot."  Invented no less by Ryan Theriot of FTC.

Hey, he's a LSU boy.
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2014, 08:20:11 am »
My wife graduated from high school with him and wouldn't have much of an issue saying that he is AN. 

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2014, 08:24:09 am »
TOOTBLAN is a new one on me too. I suspect that Appel is still a little behind from recovering from his appendectomy. I think that it is too early to press the panic button on him.

Agreed.  Just one start early in the season.  We'll see how his velocity holds in his next starts. 

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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2014, 08:26:39 am »
My wife graduated from high school with him and wouldn't have much of an issue saying that he is AN. 

What's an AN? Ass something?
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2014, 08:39:01 am »
I thought it was nincompoop.
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2014, 08:46:46 am »
Oh well, we have the #1 pick this year and will get the #1 next year.  So if we hit on the next 2 then we get 3 out of 4...and that's pretty good!!

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2014, 08:56:57 am »
He could be going through his "dead arm" period that all pitchers go through in the Spring. He did not have much ST so it may have come later.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2014, 09:00:16 am »
This is certainly possible.  Hopefully, that is all it is.

It is nincompoop.  It isn't in my vocabulary and I am a dumbass/nincompoop anyway and cannot spell.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2014, 09:36:46 am »
HHB was new to me as well, reading context I suppose it means hard hit balls. I would like to start a petition to never, ever use the other acronym, or the word nincompoop, on this board ever again. Ever.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2014, 09:40:51 am »
HHB was new to me as well, reading context I suppose it means hard hit balls. I would like to start a petition to never, ever use the other acronym, or the word nincompoop, on this board ever again. Ever.


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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2014, 09:42:31 am »
HHB was new to me as well, reading context I suppose it means hard hit balls. I would like to start a petition to never, ever use the other acronym, or the word nincompoop, on this board ever again. Ever.


I beg to differ. Nincompoop is an excellent word and quite descriptive.
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2014, 09:49:21 am »
HHB was new to me as well, reading context I suppose it means hard hit balls. I would like to start a petition to never, ever use the other acronym, or the word nincompoop, on this board ever again. Ever.


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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2014, 10:56:16 am »
I had just been exposed to this term TOOTBLAN this week.  There is one guy who is pretty passionate about it.  He even has a tumblr page and a twitter feed.  His one controbution this year is to point out that teams that have a base running error in a game actually win 56% of the time so far this year.
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2014, 11:03:28 am »
It would seem that if a team has more runners on base, it would have more chances for bad base running.

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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2014, 11:22:08 am »
I don't know, the Astros are very efficient in this respect with a high blunder to runner ratio (BTRR) and it hasn't helped them win. 

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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2014, 11:28:45 am »
It would seem that if a team has more runners on base, it would have more chances for bad base running.

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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2014, 08:53:30 am »
Velasquez with a poor outing last night.
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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2014, 05:08:29 pm »
Already know about Appel, but this from an Eric Smith tweet:

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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2014, 10:13:53 pm »
Eric Smith also tweeted this regarding a significant absence in the JetHawk lineup tonight versus a rehabbing Clayton Kershaw:

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« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2014, 03:26:57 am »
Correa supposedly won't play tomorrow either but will be in the lineup Sunday.

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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2014, 10:55:34 pm »
McCullers Jr with his best effort of the season (5 3 0 0 1 10).

Correa misses 5th straight game.

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« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2014, 11:00:09 pm »
McCullers Jr with his best effort of the season (5 3 0 0 1 10).

Correa misses 5th straight game.

They said he's available to pinch hit. I hope they're just being super cautious with him and it's not too serious.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2014, 01:03:43 am »

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2014, 09:52:27 am »
It's been a fun week in the Lancaster clubhouse.
Wow. You don't hear of too many closed-door, players-only meeting in the minors. Maybe they do happen and the press just doesn't cover it, but it sounds rare.
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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2014, 09:53:12 am »
Wow. You don't hear of too many closed-door, players-only meeting in the minors. Maybe they do happen and you the press just doesn't cover it, but it sounds rare.

Sounds like there are some natural born leaders in that group.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2014, 10:55:13 am »
They're 15-11...what exactly is the problem?

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« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2014, 11:19:41 am »
They're 15-11...what exactly is the problem?

My reading between the lines is that there was too much douchebaggery going on.
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« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2014, 11:29:48 pm »
My reading between the lines is that there was too much douchebaggery going on.

That's exactly what I read into this quote:

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« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2014, 03:09:07 am »
It's good to see Correa back in the box score.
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« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2014, 07:34:14 am »
If you haven't noticed Anthony Kemp's start to the season yet.....you're doing it wrong.

In the Cal League, he is 2nd in BA, 1st in OBP, 4th in OPS, 4th in SB.
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« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2014, 08:37:22 am »
If you haven't noticed Anthony Kemp's start to the season yet.....you're doing it wrong.

In the Cal League, he is 2nd in BA, 1st in OBP, 4th in OPS, 4th in SB.

Is anyone blocking him at CC?  Reports on him are that he is a quick study...wouldn't mind seeing him push Altuve next year or at least be a threat off the bench in 2016.

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« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2014, 09:36:47 am »
Is anyone blocking him at CC?  Reports on him are that he is a quick study...wouldn't mind seeing him push Altuve next year or at least be a threat off the bench in 2016.

I think Fontana is getting most of the time at 2b in CC. He's not ready to move up. I've seen reports on Kemp that peg him as a utility guy that could play 2B, and OF.

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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2014, 11:00:47 am »
I remember similar a pegging of Ben Zobrist.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2014, 11:47:44 pm »
Anybody else following this Lancaster game? Kemp is 4 for 5 in the game and now batting .371. Hernandez is 3 for 4 with a double and a walk. He is now batting .312. Correa is 4 for 5 with a double and six rbi. He's now batting .317. Top three of the order a combined 11 for 14. Lancaster leading High Desert 12-4 in the bottom of the 8th.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2014, 12:02:06 am »
Correa is at 5 for 6. His average is now .322.

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« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2014, 01:39:22 pm »
Kemp is a fun guy to root for. Only 5'6", but he hit, what, .400 as a Junior at Vandebilt? And was SEC Player of the Year, IIRC. No one outside the Astros org seems to see him as anything more than a potential utility guy, but if he keeps hitting like this you have to wonder.

Here's a pretty thorough scouting report on him from BP (scroll down near the bottom). Interesting that they only give his Hit tool a 55, despite all the praise they heap on it. He has not hit LHP well this year, true, but if he can give you a .300+ AVG, good OBP, and gap power vs. RHP, along with good defense and speed... he could turn out to be a very nice platoon 2B/OF.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2014, 01:30:11 am »
Correa is hitting .383 with a .977 ops and 11 bb to 11 so in 94 abs against rhp but only .133 with a .367 ops and 0 bb to 11 so in 30 abs against lhp. Last year he hit .285 with an .808 ops against righties while hitting .427 with a 1.064 ops against lefties. Just a small sample size oddity that he has struggled against lefties so far this year? Seems like it.

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« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2014, 11:14:10 pm »
A no-hitter? At the Hangar? No fucking way!

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« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2014, 01:01:44 am »
Wow.  That's great. Also, check out the stats of Bakersfield's hurler. Quite impressive for the Cal League.

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« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2014, 02:09:05 am »
Wow.  That's great. Also, check out the stats of Bakersfield's hurler. Quite impressive for the Cal League.

Yep, very. Cinci got him in the 4th round last year. He supposedly has average stuff but is extremely deceptive just like Cingrani who they picked in the 3rd round in 2011.

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« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2014, 12:54:00 pm »
Velasquez to the DL?  Anyone know the whole story there?
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« Reply #67 on: May 14, 2014, 01:18:05 pm »
Velasquez to the DL?  Anyone know the whole story there?

Only what Eric Smith tell me:

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« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2014, 02:40:35 pm »
Here is the game story by Eric Smith.  Two interesting points:

1.  The three pitchers that combined are roommates this season.
2. It was 366 days from the last JetHawk No Hitter.
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« Reply #70 on: May 16, 2014, 01:47:18 am »
Eric Smith reports Vincent Velasquez headed to EST for rehab (as is Brandon Meredith) and perhaps more:

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Meredith, who leads Lancaster with five homers, tweaked his left shoulder almost two weeks ago while swinging in the cage. While the first baseman still can't swing a bat yet, Linares said Meredith is closer to returning than Velasquez. "I expect him to be back up here in a week or 10 days," Linares said. "But I want him to be 100 percent healthy when he gets back."

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« Reply #71 on: May 16, 2014, 06:52:51 am »
Hopefully, VV's groin injury isn't as serious as Roy O's was and he can avoid surgery.

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« Reply #72 on: May 16, 2014, 08:19:12 pm »
Catcher Jobduan Morales and pitchers Gonzalo Sanudo and Zach Morton all promoted to J-Hawks from QC.

Catcher Jake Rodriguez demoted to QC.

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« Reply #73 on: May 17, 2014, 02:02:43 am »
Tweets from Jason Schwartz (the JetHawks radio guy) tonight:

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« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2014, 05:57:31 am »
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140517&content_id=75773176&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&sid=milb

"It wasn't only three, it wasn't four. It was the usual. That's the usual, the way he's been playing all year," the manager said. "He could play shortstop in the big leagues. He's as good a defender as I've seen.

"I told somebody in our front office, he makes plays that I can't explain on the reports. It's so tough to explain these plays because they're unbelievable. The other day, there was a line drive in the gap and he dove and at the same time, turned around from the glove side and made the throw to first to double off a runner. It's unbelievable, but he does it every night. We're waiting for his offense to catch up to his defense a little bit."

That said, Correa is batting .310 and is tied for fourth in the league with 32 RBIs for the first-place JetHawks. Linares said that if Correa's hitting isn't as strong as his defense, it's because that bar is set extremely high.

"He gets all the routine plays and he's one of the most accurate throwers I've seen in 17 years of coaching. And his throws have carry, too," Linares added. "He's a highlight reel every night. We're focusing on playing shifts, and he makes unbelievable plays on both sides [of second base]. He's not afraid to dive. Every time he throws the ball, it's different [from anybody else]. It's special.

"I told somebody the other day that I've seen Bryce Harper and a lot of other guys play at a young age. I was fortunate enough to have George Springer. But Correa is the best player I've ever seen at this age."

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« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2014, 08:15:08 am »
Sanudo has a rough outing in his Lancaster debut.
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« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2014, 08:53:19 am »
Clearly Linares must've never seen THE BYRON BUXTON.
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« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2014, 03:43:16 pm »
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140517&content_id=75773176&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&sid=milb

"It wasn't only three, it wasn't four. It was the usual. That's the usual, the way he's been playing all year," the manager said. "He could play shortstop in the big leagues. He's as good a defender as I've seen.

"I told somebody in our front office, he makes plays that I can't explain on the reports. It's so tough to explain these plays because they're unbelievable. The other day, there was a line drive in the gap and he dove and at the same time, turned around from the glove side and made the throw to first to double off a runner. It's unbelievable, but he does it every night. We're waiting for his offense to catch up to his defense a little bit."

That said, Correa is batting .310 and is tied for fourth in the league with 32 RBIs for the first-place JetHawks. Linares said that if Correa's hitting isn't as strong as his defense, it's because that bar is set extremely high.

"He gets all the routine plays and he's one of the most accurate throwers I've seen in 17 years of coaching. And his throws have carry, too," Linares added. "He's a highlight reel every night. We're focusing on playing shifts, and he makes unbelievable plays on both sides [of second base]. He's not afraid to dive. Every time he throws the ball, it's different [from anybody else]. It's special.

"I told somebody the other day that I've seen Bryce Harper and a lot of other guys play at a young age. I was fortunate enough to have George Springer. But Correa is the best player I've ever seen at this age."


Does it even matter that he is considered a SS or 3B with all of the shifting?  It sounds like he is going to be the best player on the field, so just put him where you think the ball will most likely end up.

Love hearing these reports on him. 

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« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2014, 05:27:37 pm »
I generally take some of these with a grain of salt, but that is a pretty glowing report.  Great to read.

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« Reply #79 on: May 18, 2014, 09:02:27 am »
Clearly Linares must've never seen THE BYRON BUXTON.

Not many people have in 2014.

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« Reply #80 on: May 18, 2014, 12:35:53 pm »
Not many people have in 2014.
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« Reply #81 on: May 18, 2014, 10:24:09 pm »
Nine strkeouts in four innings for Hader.
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« Reply #82 on: May 19, 2014, 03:13:44 am »


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« Reply #83 on: May 19, 2014, 10:57:20 pm »
from a couple days ago.......


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Correa is flashing 80-defense and arm tonight. If any scouting reports question his defense, question those scouting reports.


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« Reply #84 on: May 19, 2014, 10:58:32 pm »
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/astros/article/Carlos-Correa-making-the-amazing-seem-routine-5489942.php?cmpid=twitter-premium&t=ef6adfc0cd66506723

 Two days after Astros minor league man-child Carlos Correa had an incredible defensive night at shortstop, there was still a buzz at LoanMart Field, which isn't even his home stadium in the Class A California League.

Correa, a 19-year-old shortstop, made several spectacular plays Friday for the Astros' Lancaster JetHawks at the home of the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes, a Dodgers affiliate.



As that series wrapped up Sunday, Lancaster manager Rodney Linares downplayed what Correa did - not because it wasn't amazing but because the amazing has become routine.

"I see that every day," Linares said. "I'm not surprised. ... He's probably the best player I've ever coached, and a couple years ago, I said that about George Springer."

A lot of people have compared Correa to Alex Rodriguez because of his 6-4 build and physical tools, but Linares said Correa might more closely follow in Derek Jeter's footsteps. Even dugout remarks Correa makes when the 26-18 team is losing are inspiring to his teammates.

"He's the best shortstop I've ever played with," Lancaster second baseman Tony Kemp said. "And he does so many things right. And I tell people all the time that he's so wise beyond his years."

Even in the defensive shifts the Astros have asked all of their minor league teams to utilize, Linares says Correa gets to balls that no one else could. At the plate, Correa isn't dominating to the point he is undoubtedly too good for the league, but he's doing very well given his age. He entered Monday with a .303 average, .351 on-base percentage and .434 slugging percentage, with two home runs in 36 games. He has been successful in seven of eight steal attempts.

For the first few weeks of the season, Linares and his coaching staff just wanted to watch Correa. Now they've started to make some corrections because Correa might have been hampering his own power of late.

"Just something in my stance where I was wrapping the bat and it wasn't letting me get to the ball and drive it. But I've been fixing it the last couple games, and I've been working in between games," Correa said. "It's been working out pretty good."


Although some stadiums in the California League are known to be particularly hitter-friendly, Linares and others pointed out the wind oddly has been blowing in during almost every game the JetHawks have played at their home ballpark. If anything, those with Lancaster believe some of their hitters have seen their numbers dampened.

"It's been blowing in most of the time," Correa said. "Numbers are not bad at all. I keep working, try to make them better."

Linares had seen very little of Correa before the season because Correa spent a lot of time in big league camp this spring.

A sore throwing shoulder kept Correa out from April 25 through May 1, but Linares stressed the rest was precautionary, and Correa said the shoulder hasn't bothered him since he's returned.

The question now is how much more time Correa will need before moving on to Class AA Corpus Christi. In Linares' mind, that promotion already could have come.

"He's been ready for a couple weeks," Linares said. "He's not going to be hurt, because he's going to make adjustments. … Guys are going to throw more strikes, and he's going to get more pitches to hit."

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« Reply #85 on: May 19, 2014, 11:01:11 pm »
same article on Appel-

Mark Appel, the top pick in the 2013 draft, started the year at Lancaster but battled soreness as he wasn’t ready without a proper spring training. In his final start, Appel almost looked as though he was afraid he would get hurt. He was sent to the team’s facility in Florida, where he remains.

on Velasquez-
Vincent Velasquez, a 21-year-old righthander, was the Astros’ second-round pick in 2010. He has been slowed by injuries before, and were it not for a groin strain that will likely have him down for some time, he could have soon been on the way to Corpus himself. Velasquez, who has a 2.89 ERA, 33 strikeouts and nine walks in 28 innings, is also in Florida rehabbing. He suffered the injury not on the mound but during a workout, and it’s not the kind of injury that takes just a week or two to heal.

on Hader-
Hader has added velocity since he was drafted by the Orioles in the 19th round in 2012, and he has a naturally deceptive delivery.

“It’s coming across his body, it’s live, it’s hard, it’s got late life,” Linares said. “He looks like Chris Sale. If his secondary pitches develop the way we think they’re going to develop, he’s going to be something special.”


on McCullers-
Lance McCullers was another early Astros pick in the 2012 draft at No. 41 overall. The 20-year-old righthander has a devastating curveball and a fastball that’s not only mid-90s but also deceptive. Linares said McCullers’ command of that fastball is the pressing matter, and McCullers knows that.

“Some games I’ve really had it,” said McCullers, who is averaging nearly five walks per nine innings. “Other games I’ve lost it, and it’s hurt me pretty bad. It’s a process. It’s a mechanical thing, and it’s a mindset thing.”

McCullers said that even in high school he had a tendency to want to be too perfect with every pitch. To McCullers’ credit, Linares said he has never seen so many swings and misses at curveballs in the dirt.

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« Reply #86 on: May 19, 2014, 11:07:35 pm »
Man, you post a lot of informative stuff. Thanks.

I hope Velasquez' arm action looks better than Sale's.  That hurts to watch.

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« Reply #87 on: May 20, 2014, 05:39:37 am »
Man, you post a lot of informative stuff. Thanks.

I hope Velasquez' arm action looks better than Sale's.  That hurts to watch.

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« Reply #88 on: May 20, 2014, 07:17:20 am »
Man, you post a lot of informative stuff. Thanks.

I hope Velasquez' Hader's arm action looks better than Sale's.  That hurts to watch.
I assume this is what you meant.
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« Reply #89 on: May 20, 2014, 07:55:48 am »
I assume this is what you meant.
Yes, it is.  Thanks for clarifying. 

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« Reply #90 on: May 20, 2014, 10:02:32 am »
I assume this is what you meant.

Watching Hader throw did not cause me to wince.   To my eye, he has a very easy motion.

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« Reply #91 on: May 20, 2014, 10:05:07 am »
Yes, it is.  Thanks for clarifying. 
Watching Hader throw did not cause me to wince.   To my eye, he has a very easy motion.
Nate, that's good to hear, because I've seen him compared to Sale multiple times. mlb.com's writeup of him (as the Astros' #15 prospect) says "While he's already gotten stronger since signing, there's even more projection left in his frame. His body type and low three-quarters arm slot lead to comparisons to Chris Sale."

Obviously, one can only hope that he ends up being similar to Sale in most respects.
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« Reply #94 on: May 20, 2014, 07:57:01 pm »
They were a lot of fun to watch in the Quad Cities.   That team was (and is) something special.

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« Reply #95 on: May 20, 2014, 09:05:51 pm »
More on Correa

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/hou/top-astros-prospect-carlos-correa-eager-to-achieve-big-league-dream?ymd=20140520&content_id=76119232&vkey=news_hou


My absolute favorite part of the article:

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Correa comes here to the Denny's every morning and orders the same thing: an egg-white vegetable omelet, side of fruit, side of seven-grain French toast. His orange juice arrives at the table before he has to ask.

"Generous tipper, great guy," the manager, a man by the name of Saint Martinez, said after Correa leaves the restaurant. "And you know what? He leaves me tickets to every home game for me and my kids. Every home game, if I go to will call, I have tickets. I'm a single parent, I raise my kids, and they love baseball and they became fans of him."


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« Reply #96 on: May 20, 2014, 09:12:08 pm »
My absolute favorite part of the article:
My totally platonic manlove for this guy keeps growing.
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« Reply #97 on: May 20, 2014, 11:44:54 pm »
Correa misses 2nd straight game. Only thing I could find was this twitter exchange with Jason Schwartz:

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« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2014, 12:14:44 am »
J. Shwartz tweets:

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« Reply #99 on: May 21, 2014, 12:34:03 am »
Hernandez's big game at Bakersfield tonight continues his success on the road this season. Entering the game, he was hitting .295/.390/.533 in 25 games away from the Hanger and .288/.356/.530 in 17 games at home.

The righty swinger for some reason has always hit RHPs better than LHPs throughout his career but his splits this season are downright bizarre. He has a 1.007 OPS versus righties and just .668 versus lefties (again, those were his numbers entering the game). Limited sample size probably accounts for most of this year's differential but still kinda strange.

ETA:

Post-game splits: 1.039 OPS vs righties and .753 vs lefties. Now hitting .309/.398/.600 on the road.

And I see the game report also discusses his road success:

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Teoscar Hernandez has put up solid numbers at home this season, but it's what he's doing on the road that's really starting to make people pay attention.

Tuesday was just another night at the (home-away-from-home) office.

The Astros' No. 13 prospect homered twice, doubled and drove in five runs to lead Class A Advanced Lancaster to an 8-4 win over Bakersfield at Sam Lynn Ballpark.

Hernandez slugged his seventh and eighth homers of the season while extending his California League lead with 41 RBIs.

"For me, it is just the same approach," he said through teammate and translator Ruben Sosa. "But I guess I have had better results on the road. I stay with the same approach. I just try to come out every day and work hard and get better.

"I felt good. The most important thing tonight was that the team won and that I was hitting the ball hard. I had a good approach at the plate. I was looking for specific pitches and putting good swings on them."

In 17 games at The Hanger in Lancaster, Hernandez is batting .288 with seven extra-base hits and eight RBIs. On the road, he's hitting .309 with 19 extra-base hits and 33 RBIs. He's reached base in 24 of 26 games away from home, with 12 multi-hit efforts.

To put that in perspective, the 21-year-old outfielder has more RBIs on the road than all but five other California Leaguers have in total. Or, put another way, only 25 Minor Leaguers have driven in more runs than Hernandez has on the road alone.

Only Fresno's Adam Duvall (44) and sluggers Giancarlo Stanton of the Marlins (43) and Jose Abreu of the White Sox (42) have more RBIs in affiliated ball than Hernandez, who moved into a four-way tie for second in the Minors.

The game report also notes this:

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Hernandez attributes much of his early-season production to batting second in a lineup that features Kemp ahead of him and top Astros prospect Carlos Correa -- who was given the evening off Tuesday -- behind him.

"I like batting behind Tony Kemp because he is always on base," Hernandez said. "He is also a guy that has good at-bats. And hitting in front of Carlos, I see a lot of good pitches because teams don't want to face him with men on base. I want to get on base because I know Carlos can do some damage."
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« Reply #100 on: May 21, 2014, 08:01:21 am »
My totally platonic manlove for this guy keeps growing.

There may or may not be a guy with a bedazzled shirt featuring his picture for his MLB debut.

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« Reply #101 on: May 21, 2014, 10:58:47 pm »
Correa with a homer tonight.

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« Reply #102 on: May 22, 2014, 01:35:18 am »
Correa with a homer tonight.

And Teo with his league-leading 7th triple as both go 2-5. Kemp 1-4 with a walk.

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« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2014, 08:29:28 pm »
We learn the injury that caused Correa to miss games earlier this week:

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« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2014, 07:39:38 pm »
Big game at the plate for young Mr. Correa going 3-4 with a homer (#4), 3 RBIs and reaching on a plunk. Kemp 3-5 and 2 runs scored (easily leads all of minor league baseball with 57 runs scored in 49 games). Teoscar 2 walks and steal #15. OF Jordan Scott continues his hot pace going 2-4 with a triple (batting .425/465/.700 in his last 10 games).

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« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2014, 05:28:11 pm »
Eric Smith tweets updates about those in EST limbo:

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Linares said he hadn't heard anything on (Vincent) Velasquez (groin injury) but said he is expected back until end of 1st half/start of 2nd.

(Mark) Appel supposed to throw today at extended, haven't heard on him yet. Could be back with #JetHawks in coming days.

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« Reply #106 on: May 27, 2014, 05:29:54 pm »
It's official:

Conrad Gregor joining #JetHawks from Quad Cities. Bobby Borchering to DL retroactive to 5/25.

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« Reply #107 on: May 28, 2014, 07:27:03 pm »
He's back!

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« Reply #108 on: May 28, 2014, 08:39:13 pm »
He's back!

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Hopefully he didn't bring the whiny/wimpy attitude back with him.
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« Reply #109 on: May 28, 2014, 09:05:02 pm »
Eric Smith profile of Tony "Bricks" Kemp.

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« Reply #110 on: May 28, 2014, 10:12:10 pm »
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Carlos Correa just put one over the scoreboard in Elsinore. 3-run shot to give him 4 RBIs tonight. Epic home run.

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« Reply #111 on: May 28, 2014, 10:15:49 pm »
Jason Schwartz tweet:


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« Reply #112 on: May 28, 2014, 10:58:29 pm »
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Carlos Correa just put one over the scoreboard in Elsinore. 3-run shot to give him 4 RBIs tonight. Epic home run.

More from Schwartz (via Twitter ‏@jasondschwartz)

Was just informed that Carlos Correa’s home run over the scoreboard traveled 449 feet.

If I'm not road tripping down to Corpus to see him play in July, I will be pissed.

Apparently Rajan thinks Correa will be in MMPUS by June 10 (via promotion to the Hooks in time for their game at MMPUS against the Missions). (Rajan via Twitter @GregRajan)

Prediction: Promotion coming before MMP #cchooks game. MT @jasondschwartz Carlos Correa’s home run over the scoreboard traveled 449 feet.

ETA...

Smith thinks it'll be at the end of the JetHawks 1st half of the season (Smith via Twitter ‏@Eric_L_Smith)

.@GregRajan My guess is that it happens after #JetHawks wrap up 1st half on June 14. Regardless, it's going to be soon though. Kid's a stud.
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« Reply #113 on: May 29, 2014, 09:26:32 am »
game at MMPUS against the Missions

I guess I've been under a rock - didn't know that this was happening.  What a great idea.  It would be good to also have OKC play in Houston as well, maybe against RR - that's probably happening too for all I know.
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« Reply #114 on: May 29, 2014, 09:48:29 am »
Westwood might have something.
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« Reply #115 on: May 29, 2014, 09:49:46 am »
I guess I've been under a rock - didn't know that this was happening.  What a great idea.  It would be good to also have OKC play in Houston as well, maybe against RR - that's probably happening too for all I know.

One of the advantages of owning your own minor league affiliate (as the Astros do with CC) is the ability to do creative things like this. And I'm sure Reid Ryan was the primary impetus in actually getting this scheduled. Kudos to him.

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« Reply #116 on: May 29, 2014, 04:40:29 pm »
The fabulous Eric Smith tweets:

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REAPPEARING APPEL: RHP Mark Appel has rejoined Lancaster from extended spring training and is slated to make start on Saturday against the Quakes in Lancaster.
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« Reply #117 on: May 29, 2014, 09:33:38 pm »
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« Reply #118 on: May 30, 2014, 08:32:11 pm »
Posted lineup for tonight's game (Teo's back!):

Kemp 2B
Hernandez CF
Correa SS
Ruiz 3B
Pena C
Gregor 1B
Gulbransen DH
Sosa RF
Scott LF
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« Reply #119 on: May 30, 2014, 11:42:31 pm »
Another awesome outing for Josh Hader, this time at the Hangar (7.2 4 1 1 1 9). 2nd in ERA, 2nd in WHIP in the Cal League.

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« Reply #120 on: May 31, 2014, 04:15:27 am »
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10996551/minnesota-twins-outfielder-byron-buxton-no-1-top-25-prospect-ranking-mlb

from Law's updated top 25-

2. Carlos Correa | SS | Houston Astros (age 19)
Current level: High Class A (Lancaster)
Preseason ranking: 4

Correa's always been a top offensive prospect, but he's continued to make believers out of scouts who see him at shortstop, and if he doesn't outgrow the position physically there's no reason he can't remain there at least into his mid-to-late 20s.

His performance so far has been excellent given his age, although I'd caution anyone looking at the raw stat lines to bear in mind that Lancaster is a great place to hit, as are several other southern California League ballparks.

16. Mark Appel | RHP | Houston Astros (age 22)
Current level: High Class A (Lancaster)
Preseason ranking: 11

Appel's inability to adjust to Houston's four-day tandem rotation scheme isn't at all his fault, nor is it any kind of demerit toward his prospect status; the tandem system has its merits, but I wouldn't want to experiment like that with the first overall pick in the draft and my top pitching prospect.

He's been out of action for five weeks already, and while he's reportedly throwing very hard again in extended spring, I'd like to see him do it on a mound again -- preferably in Double-A, outside the tandem system entirely.

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« Reply #121 on: May 31, 2014, 04:43:29 am »
Appel goes against the 17 year old Dodgers lefty pitching prospect Urias today. Should be a pretty good matchup.

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« Reply #122 on: May 31, 2014, 07:43:18 am »

from Law's updated top 25-


Appel's inability to adjust to Houston's four-day tandem rotation scheme isn't at all his fault, nor is it any kind of demerit toward his prospect status; the tandem system has its merits, but I wouldn't want to experiment like that with the first overall pick in the draft and my top pitching prospect.


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« Reply #123 on: May 31, 2014, 09:52:05 pm »
Appel goes against the 17 year old Dodgers lefty pitching prospect Urias today. Should be a pretty good matchup.

Didn't work out that way. Appel's #s:  1.1IP/10H/10R/10ER/1BB/2SO/3HR.


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« Reply #124 on: May 31, 2014, 09:54:01 pm »
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« Reply #125 on: May 31, 2014, 09:55:57 pm »
I don't understand what is the issue with how he's been handled? Looks like he's been coddled to me.

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« Reply #126 on: May 31, 2014, 09:57:00 pm »
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« Reply #127 on: May 31, 2014, 10:00:15 pm »
Didn't work out that way. Appel's #s:  1.1IP/10H/10R/10ER/1BB/2SO/3HR.


Excuse me while I vomit.

I don't understand what is the issue with how he's been handled? Looks like he's been coddled to me.
Maybe they sang the wrong lullaby to him as he was being put down for his nap.

Seriously though, the guy's got to be injured, right? 3 HR and 10 hits in less than 2 innings is bizarrely brutal.
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« Reply #128 on: May 31, 2014, 10:05:23 pm »
I don't understand what is the issue with how he's been handled? Looks like he's been coddled to me.

The arguments are two-fold: (1) that he wasn't given enough time to recover from the surgery. And of course Luhnow *did* give a mea culpa on that (you can certainly argue he said that merely to protect his player) (2) the piggyback forces guys to pitch every 4th day rather than every 7th day coming out of college.

I think the latter argument is bullshit but there is that feeling out there among pitchers and their agents.

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« Reply #129 on: May 31, 2014, 10:05:37 pm »
His velocity was reported as mid-90s last week in Florida.

 Does he have any movement on his pitches?

Giving up almost as many HRs(3) as getting outs (4) is hard to imagine.

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« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2014, 10:08:04 pm »
The arguments are two-fold: (1) that he wasn't given enough time to recover from the surgery. And of course Luhnow *did* give a mea culpa on that (you can certainly argue he said that merely to protect his player) (2) the piggyback forces guys to pitch every 4th day rather than every 7th day coming out of college.

I think the latter argument is bullshit but there is that feeling out there among pitchers and their agents.

Well, I don't think either excuse is valid for today. Hopefully next time is better. Much better.

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« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2014, 10:09:25 pm »
I doubt he is injured, and intimating that he has been handled poorly seems like Boras initiated BS.  However, in Appel's defense, the wind was blowing 20 according to the box, and it's not inconceivable to me that just got in his head.


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« Reply #132 on: May 31, 2014, 10:11:57 pm »
His velocity was reported as mid-90s last week in Florida.

 Does he have any movement on his pitches?

Giving up almost as many HRs(3) as getting outs (4) is hard to imagine.

If he's throwing that hard but not locating well and getting everything up, I can understand.  According to the boxscore the wind is blowing out to right at 20 mph. Maybe just rusty?
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« Reply #133 on: May 31, 2014, 10:15:54 pm »
If he's throwing that hard but not locating well and getting everything up, I can understand.  According to the boxscore the wind is blowing out to right at 20 mph. Maybe just rusty?

I'll go with that.

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« Reply #134 on: May 31, 2014, 10:17:14 pm »
Tweeted earlier by someone at the game:

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Mark Appel comes out firing. 5 straight fastballs at 95.

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Appel missing his spots. Just gave up another HR. That's 5 runs in the first.

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Appel hasn't been great. But a few bloops and now an infield single.

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« Reply #135 on: May 31, 2014, 10:20:16 pm »
I haven't seen him in over a year, but when I did, his fastball never seemed plus to me, regardless of velocity.  Part of it is that hitters see it well, but mostly it was location mistakes. His secondaries always looked good to me though.

I think the development folks are good at developing pitchers and therefore I expect Appel will eventually be decent, and maybe even real good, but I am starting to wonder about the skills of those on the talent evaluation side.

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« Reply #136 on: May 31, 2014, 10:22:09 pm »
That performance is absolutely unacceptable from your number one overall pick. It's still relatively early but with the way Bryant and Gray are playing at AA the 2013 draft could really hurt to look at in future years.

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« Reply #137 on: May 31, 2014, 10:24:48 pm »
I haven't seen him in over a year, but when I did, his fastball never seemed plus to me, regardless of velocity.  Part of it is that hitters see it well, but mostly it was location mistakes. His secondaries always looked good to me though.

I think the development folks are good at developing pitchers and therefore I expect Appel will eventually be decent, and maybe even real good, but I am starting to wonder about the skills of those on the talent evaluation side.

Um.....why? The 2012 draft is looking really good. Elias was one of the main guys who fell in love with Correa and pushed for him. Also, Appel was a consensus top guy two years in a row and it was a pick a lot of people predicted. Appel, Gray, and Bryant were the top tier and Appel ended up coming in at 6.3 million while I think Bryant got 6.7. Gray only got 4.8 or so, though. But they probably liked Appel's delivery and secondaries better which was the case for a lot of people. I also know that Elias and the scouts were in love with JP Crawford last year who is raking in low A right now. There were reports of that in December 2012. He went 16th to the Phillies. He wasn't a guy that they could take number one unfortunately. Shit, I know they were high on Kohl Stewart too, but they couldn't take him at 1-1 in last year's draft either.
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« Reply #138 on: May 31, 2014, 10:30:03 pm »
Well, one thing is that Heck was still around in 2012.  My main concern on the talent evaluation side is the higher round picks of college pitchers. They haven't impressed, but honestly, it's still early.

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« Reply #139 on: May 31, 2014, 10:34:23 pm »
Well, one thing is that Heck was still around in 2012.  My main concern on the talent evaluation side is the higher round picks of college pitchers. They haven't impressed, but honestly, it's still early.

Sure, but Elias was there already as well. He played a big part in that draft. Then they went with more polished guys last year in a college pitching heavy draft. Just so you know, Thurman has been unlucky. I know some on here don't like advanced stats but the babip against him is .391 and he has a left on base percentage of 59 percent compared to the 72 percent average. His fip on fangraphs is 3.68 and he's also striking out over ten per nine. Emanuel hasn't been bad either. But I don't have any excuses whatsoever for Appel. I get the tandem thing and the appendectomy thing to an extent but this is a guy who should never ever get lit up like that.

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« Reply #140 on: May 31, 2014, 10:36:43 pm »
Well, one thing is that Heck was still around in 2012.  My main concern on the talent evaluation side is the higher round picks of college pitchers. They haven't impressed, but honestly, it's still early.
Everyone on planet earth had Appel as a top 3 pick as a junior and then again as a senior.
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« Reply #141 on: May 31, 2014, 10:52:52 pm »
Everyone on planet earth had Appel as a top 3 pick as a junior and then again as a senior.
I doubt this is true, especially after his junior year.  At any rate, I understand the pick last year and hope he will wildly succeed.  I just said I was starting to wonder, especially as it relates to college arm evaluation, that's all.

And Morningwood, I have no ears for the unlucky argument.  Thurman's BABIP is high most likely because they are squaring it up on him.  Do his current problems mean he won't kick ass in the future.  Definitely not.  I am aware that his present stats don't predict his future.

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« Reply #142 on: May 31, 2014, 11:16:03 pm »
I doubt this is true, especially after his junior year.  At any rate, I understand the pick last year and hope he will wildly succeed.  I just said I was starting to wonder, especially as it relates to college arm evaluation, that's all.

And Morningwood, I have no ears for the unlucky argument.  Thurman's BABIP is high most likely because they are squaring it up on him.  Do his current problems mean he won't kick ass in the future.  Definitely not.  I am aware that his present stats don't predict his future.

A lot of media guys have said Appel was first or second on most teams' boards in two straight drafts. What was so bad about his junior year in its totality? You must be thinking of his sophomore year and the beginning of his junior year when he had a stinker or two.

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« Reply #143 on: May 31, 2014, 11:24:20 pm »
The odds were that with three number one picks you'd most likely get one superstar, one decent regular, and one bust. Hopefully none of them bust but we'll see.

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« Reply #144 on: May 31, 2014, 11:51:00 pm »
Wind or whatever, not a whole lot of good pitching in Lancaster tonight: final score was 16-13 with a combined 38 hits and 6 home runs.

Having said that, you do have to give some props to Brian Holmes who put up this line: 4.1 2 1 1 0 7.

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« Reply #145 on: May 31, 2014, 11:59:31 pm »
A lot of media guys have said Appel was first or second on most teams' boards in two straight drafts. What was so bad about his junior year in its totality? You must be thinking of his sophomore year and the beginning of his junior year when he had a stinker or two.

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Just in college arms alone, there were him, Gausman and Zimmer, and I bet alot of evaluators had him at the bottom of that list.  I never saw Zimmer, but Gausman sure looked better.  I followed that draft closely and I remember lots of damning by faint praise.  Lots.

Also, I don't put much weight into college (or most non-MLB stats) stats, so that data doesn't mean much to me.  As to last year, I can understand him over the OU kid, but I knew nothing about everyone else.  All in all, he has always seemed a bit over-hyped, but that doesn't mean he won't be real good, or that he wasn't the right pick last year.

Another related aside: I really question the idea that there is as much consensus amongst the teams as the pundits portray.  I'd be surprised if there weren't a lot of varying opinions even within each team.  Strong opinions which vary. It's just the nature of the business.  

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« Reply #146 on: June 01, 2014, 12:11:10 am »
Just in college arms alone, there were him, Gausman and Zimmer, and I bet alot of evaluators had him at the bottom of that list.  I never saw Zimmer, but Gausman sure looked better.  I followed that draft closely and I remember lots of damning by faint praise.  Lots.

Also, I don't put much weight into college (or most non-MLB stats) stats, so that data doesn't mean much to me.  As to last year, I can understand him over the OU kid, but I knew nothing about everyone else.  All in all, he has always seemed a bit over-hyped, but that doesn't mean he won't be real good, or that he wasn't the right pick last year.

Another related aside: I really question the idea that there is as much consensus amongst the teams as the pundits portray.  I'd be surprised if there weren't a lot of varying opinions even within each team.  Strong opinions which vary. It's just the nature of the business.  

A lot of evaluators? I highly doubt it. The only reason they would've had Gausman and Zimmer ahead of him is due to the money Appel wanted. And that's why he slipped to 8 that year.

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« Reply #147 on: June 01, 2014, 12:26:05 am »
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« Reply #148 on: June 01, 2014, 12:45:11 am »
These are all Eric Smith tweets-

Appel: “I know that I’m good enough on my good days to compete with anybody in this league." #JetHawks #Astros


Appel: “Obviously not a very good game on my part ... This season hasn’t gone the way I hoped it would." #JetHawks #Astros

Appel referenced up and down season so far: appendix issue, shortened ST, tandem struggles, back to FL for ext. ST... #JetHawks #Astros

Appel: “This has been a very strange season ... I feel like I’m trying to get my groove back." #JetHawks #Astros

Give Appel big-time credit for honest answers after that outing. Initially didn't want to talk but changed mind. #JetHawks #Astros

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« Reply #149 on: June 01, 2014, 01:17:38 am »
Where's Teo?

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« Reply #150 on: June 01, 2014, 01:25:40 am »
http://www.ericlouissmith.net/blog/jethawks-cant-complete-improbable-rally-after-appels-early-disaster

“There are a lot of takeaways and I can take them as negatives or take them as positives. I’ll go to sleep and wake up and be ready to work.”

“I know it will come, it’s just a matter of time. It’s just a matter of doing the things I’ve been doing ever since I was in college or high school.

 “I’m looking forward to that day when everything does come together.”

Said Appel: The big issue I had tonight was just missing with my fastball."

“Seager’s (home run) was more down but it was still probably up in comparison to where I want to be,” Appel said. “They’re a good club, too, so it’s not just my mistakes.”

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« Reply #151 on: June 01, 2014, 10:36:27 am »
Just heard an interview with assistant GM David Stearns. As part of the interview, the host wanted to know about the progress of their top picks.  I thought it was an interesting way to ask about Appel without being confrontational.  Anyways, Stearns described Correa, and got to Appel and mentioned the appendectomy and it's associated setback, then mentioned how he was having trouble adapting to major league pitching schedules and was sent back to EST and now his stuff is crisp and they expect big things.

I assumed that the interview was recorded earlier in the week until he later mentioned that Singleton hit his 14th last night. Implied moral of the story as it relates to Appel's outing: either news hasn't reached Houston or they just put it into perspective that it was just a bad outing.


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« Reply #152 on: June 01, 2014, 12:34:21 pm »
The superb Eric Smith tweets (give him a follow at @Eric_L_Smith):

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« Reply #153 on: June 01, 2014, 03:00:48 pm »
Well, we've all been wondering just when the Jethawks' shortstop would get promoted to Corpus...
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« Reply #154 on: June 01, 2014, 03:19:52 pm »
http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2014/06/01/mark-appel-says-he-felt-entitled-to-certain-things/#22102101=0

After what might be the worst outing Mark Appel has ever experienced as a baseball player, he opened up Sunday in an interview on SiriusXM’s MLB Network Radio.

Appel, the top pick in last year’s draft, has had a whirlwind four months, and last night in his first minor league start in more than a month, allowed 10 runs in 1 1/3 innings for High Class A Lancaster.

Here’s what Appel had to say on the radio:

“There’s so many things that I can improve on. And I think that’ll be the same answer regardless of how my last outing was, or one day if I hope to make it to the bigs, there’s always things I can continue to work on. This season, I’m not going to blow smoke or anything like that, this season really hasn’t gone the way that I want it to, but the beauty of that is it’s in the past. If I really dwell on the past, it’ll really just — it’ll wear me down. Trying to focus on the negatives is not a good thing, so I woke up today, I’m ready to go to work, ready to get the work that I need to prepare myself for the next outing. I think it’s a mater of just getting my feet wet again.

“This whole season has been a little strange, an appendectomy before spring training, having a short spring training, and then breaking camp and pitching every fourth day and just not being able to respond to that because physically I don’t think I was there after the surgery. And then going back to Florida and now being back in California and then having that start I had last night, I sat back last night, I was like, ‘Man, what’s going on?’ God must be up to something, something big. But I have no idea what it is. It’s those rough times and it’s those times in the desert that really define your character. It could be so easy to just give up in certain situations, when, I mean — 10 runs in an inning and a third, I don’t think I’ve ever had a start that’s that bad in my life, you know? You might consider I’m at the low of lows, but that’s nothing to be ashamed of, or nothing to get down on. It’s just more desire, more motivation to keep working and to keep getting better. And really, it’s humbling.

“Having the confidence of knowing that you’re the first overall pick in last year’s draft, you should be the top of the top right now, and I mean, it’s humbling. This game is very humbling. But it’s a good thing, because it’ll give me that drive, that desire, that, motivation to continue to working, to continue to be faithful, both to God, and to my teammates, my coaches, myself, the things that I need to do. I’ll come back and I’ll respond. Don’t know exactly when that will be, I hope it’ll be next game and I’m going to work and prepare like I have every other game to be able to be my best, but I think the draft is definitely a starting point, and when you lose sight of that, you can — it could really get you. I think I lost sight of that a little bit, and I think I felt entitled to certain things, and you know I’m actually really gracious and really appreciative of this kind of desert time that I’m going through right now because I know it’ll make me that much better in the end.”

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« Reply #155 on: June 01, 2014, 07:38:24 pm »
Gonzalo Sanudo and Kyle Westwood show 'em how it's done (then again, the wind wasn't blowing out at 20 MPH either) as they shut down Rancho Cucamonga on 2 runs (zero earned) and 6 hits allowed.

Teo, Rio and Correa (they play a mean Latin jazz fusion on the side) led the J-Hawks offensively by combining for 5 hits including a homer and a double, 2 walks and 2 stolen bases.

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« Reply #156 on: June 04, 2014, 02:30:39 am »
Correa supporting this line over the last 10 games:
447/553/711


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« Reply #157 on: June 04, 2014, 08:57:31 am »
Correa supporting this line over the last 10 games:
447/553/711


Ruiz isn't quite as strong, but he's still strong to very strong over the last 10:
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« Reply #158 on: June 04, 2014, 09:08:24 am »
When does Appel go again?

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« Reply #159 on: June 04, 2014, 09:28:10 am »
When does Appel go again?

Tomorrow night, I believe is what I read.

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« Reply #160 on: June 04, 2014, 09:31:17 am »
Do you know if it as the second pitcher in a tandem, or starting?

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« Reply #161 on: June 04, 2014, 09:35:28 am »
Do you know if it as the second pitcher in a tandem, or starting?

Doesn't sound like a tandem from this earlier Eric Smith tweet:

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« Reply #162 on: June 04, 2014, 01:43:16 pm »
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5 #JetHawks named to Cal Lg All-Star team: Hader, Correa, Kemp, Hernandez and Pena. Lancaster led leagues in selections.

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« Reply #163 on: June 04, 2014, 07:41:31 pm »
Appel probably scratched from tomorrow's start for more rest.

What the fuck.

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« Reply #164 on: June 04, 2014, 08:29:56 pm »
Appel probably scratched from tomorrow's start for more rest.

What the fuck.

Eric Smith's article:

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Appel, recalled from extended spring training Saturday, said it was “probable” that he would miss Thursday’s scheduled start against Inland Empire so he could get extra rest.

Appel made his first start in over a month for the JetHawks last Saturday, an outing that was a disaster. The right-hander gave up 10 runs and 10 hits, including three home runs, in just 1 1/3 innings of work.

“They just want to give me a little bit of extra rest after my last start,” said Appel, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 draft. “That obviously didn’t go as well as we were hoping it would.

Hell, just give him a week between starts like at Stanford.

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« Reply #165 on: June 04, 2014, 09:31:25 pm »
He didn't make it out of the second inning.  Do you really need an extra day?

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« Reply #166 on: June 04, 2014, 09:43:21 pm »
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« Reply #167 on: June 04, 2014, 10:19:52 pm »
I assume "more rest" isn't the real reason as it doesn't make sense. I also doubt the five day "rigor" of professional ball, or the tandem weren't actually accurate either. Hopefully, it's just time needed for additional instruction.

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« Reply #168 on: June 05, 2014, 12:59:47 pm »
Moving from 1 #1 to another ...

Carlos gets a lot of hype for his excellent season, and deservedly so.  I was there fore a bit surprised to look at the stat page today and find that he leads the team in exactly 1 offensive stat:  GIDP.  Quite "offensive" actually.
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« Reply #169 on: June 05, 2014, 01:07:12 pm »
I assume "more rest" isn't the real reason as it doesn't make sense. I also doubt the five day "rigor" of professional ball, or the tandem weren't actually accurate either. Hopefully, it's just time needed for additional instruction.

A Whitey tweet says he has thumb tendinitis.
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« Reply #170 on: June 05, 2014, 01:08:45 pm »
A Whitey tweet says he has thumb tendinitis.

He seems pretty snake-bit so far..  hopefully this is an aberration rather than normalcy.

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« Reply #171 on: June 05, 2014, 01:18:17 pm »
A Whitey tweet says he has thumb tendinitis.
In a weird way, I hope so because a lot of other possibilities seem worse.  To me at least, I wonder why they just didn't come out and say it as that would provide an explanation instead of leaving a void naturally filled by far worse explanations.

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« Reply #172 on: June 06, 2014, 12:44:57 am »
http://www.ericlouissmith.net/blog/transcript-of-interview-with-appel-covering-tendinitis-scrutiny

On whether he felt the tendinitis at extended spring training or was it a recent thing...

Mark Appel: “It was something that I felt a little bit. Tendinitis is weird, there’s really nothing you can do to make it worse. It’s just a matter of pain-tolerance, I guess. Usually in most cases you try to work through it and whatever part you have gets used to the work that you’re doing.

 “Because of the location of it, it basically affected how I was gripping the ball and how I was able to throw and the pain I had while throwing.

 “I definitely felt it on Saturday but I’m definitely not using that as an excuse for my game. I played catch Sunday and I did feel a good amount of pain.

 “We wanted to take care of it so I won’t be pitching today but I’ll make my next scheduled start. It’s really just a minor setback, just another one for my season.



On his rollercoaster season…

MA: “I was talking with (Astros pitching coordinator) Dyar (Miller) and a few other people about this season and it’s just been crazy how I haven’t had any form of consistency.

 “Starting with my appendectomy to my shortened spring training, to coming here to the piggyback and that not working out, to going to Florida and having another spring training, to coming back and having the game I had on Saturday, to now the tendinitis, it’s almost comical with how many things are going on this season.

 “I haven’t lost faith or lost sight or lost confidence. I know it’s just a matter of time until I’ll have consistent work.

 “I want to go out every fifth day and just pitch and not worry about all of these outside things, whether it’s tendinitis or lack of consistency or whatever it may be.

 “If you look at my stats or look at my season so far, you probably wouldn’t believe it but I think I’m in a good spot right now given all the things that have happened.

 “It’s been an up-and-down season but I’m just as motivated as ever and ready to go to work.”

 “For me, it’s just a matter of maybe having some failure, work through that and get better from it. That’s what the minor leagues are for, to iron out those kinks.

 “I’m almost grateful that all this stuff is happening in my first full season because so far it’s been a great learning experience.

 “Even next year or two or three of five years from now, I’m going to look back at this season and laugh.”


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« Reply #173 on: June 06, 2014, 01:51:39 am »
Lancaster scored 16 runs on 16 hits tonight and won 16-7. Kemp, Teoscar, Ruiz, and Gulbransen all homered. Conrad Gregor went 1 for 3 with two walks and Carlos Correa went 1 for 1 with a hbp, an sb, a triple, 3 walks, 4 runs scored, and an rbi. Correa is at .329/.416/.502 with 51 rbi through 52 games. He is also 18 for 22 when it comes to stealing bases.

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« Reply #174 on: June 06, 2014, 11:58:03 am »
I remember reading before the season how he had focused on improving his speed over the winter. It was one of the few knocks against him before. 18 for 22 already is quite impressive improvement in that regard.
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« Reply #175 on: June 09, 2014, 10:17:20 pm »
Today the JetHawks defeated Visalia Rawhide 15-2. The hitting stars were too numerous to mention but Teoscar Hernandez led the way with four hits including his 12th HR hitting leadoff as Kemp sat out. Hader pitched seven quality innings to bring his record to 6-0 allowing two runs, both earned, on four hits with 3ks and a walk. The JetHawks are now 42-24.

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« Reply #176 on: June 10, 2014, 11:19:57 am »
Teoscar is BA's hitter of the day for their prospect report:
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HITTER OF THE DAY: Teoscar Hernandez, of — high Class A Lancaster (Astros)

Joey Gallo homered in his Double-A debut, but everything's coming up Astros these days. The major league team is winning; George Springer and Jon Singleton are hitting long bombs; they just added Brady Aiken to the organization, they're getting prospects by accident (Domingo Santana) and Hernandez might be the hottest minor leaguer this month. After a slow April, Hernandez hit .344/.421/.634 in May and is at .381/.458/.762 in June, which includes a 4-for-6 night Monday with a homer and two doubles and his 21st stolen base. He was Houston's 16th-rated prospect entering the season,but that's sure to change when we update the prospect lists.
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« Reply #177 on: June 12, 2014, 07:46:33 am »
Jethawks won 16-3 last night to clinch a first half playoff spot. 4 hits from Kemp, 5 from Vasquez, homers from Mayfield, Gregor, Pena, and Ruiz (GS).


Conrad Gregor is posting cartoon numbers since his promotion, reminding us all of what the Hangar can do. 5 homers in 431 pro at-bats pre-callup, 4 in 53 AB with Lancaster. I hope they can find a way out of that stadium sometime soon.

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« Reply #178 on: June 12, 2014, 08:44:42 am »
Correa is in danger of spontaneously combusting.  His OPS over his last ten games is 1.308
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« Reply #179 on: June 12, 2014, 09:39:13 am »
Remember this from last year(Rio Ruiz):
http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=115414.msg481949#msg481949

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167/309/288 - April
246/329/311 - May
269/330/409 - June
279/347/477 - July
298/342/558 - August
364/475/758 - Spetember (32 of 40 PAs were in the playoffs)

Well he's at it again:
April - 294/354/402
May - 290/412/439
June - 341/426/537
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« Reply #180 on: June 12, 2014, 11:10:08 am »
Remember this from last year:
http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=115414.msg481949#msg481949

Well he's at it again:
April - 294/354/402
May - 290/412/439
June - 341/426/537

Who are you talking about?
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« Reply #181 on: June 12, 2014, 11:17:26 am »
Rio Ruiz
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« Reply #182 on: June 12, 2014, 06:18:47 pm »
Appel tonight, right?

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« Reply #183 on: June 12, 2014, 08:11:29 pm »
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« Reply #184 on: June 12, 2014, 09:01:40 pm »
Struggling...ugh

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« Reply #185 on: June 12, 2014, 09:12:23 pm »
4 runs in 2 innings.  I guess we were due for some prospect disappointment but this one stings.

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« Reply #186 on: June 12, 2014, 09:16:49 pm »
4 runs in 2 innings.  I guess we were due for some prospect disappointment but this one stings.

Heard on Crawfish Boxes that he is only around 90 mph or so. Not good.

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« Reply #187 on: June 12, 2014, 09:21:39 pm »
Heard on Crawfish Boxes that he is only around 90 mph or so. Not good.

Eric Smith tweeted he was at 92-93

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« Reply #188 on: June 12, 2014, 09:26:50 pm »
1-2-3 3rd

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« Reply #189 on: June 12, 2014, 09:38:08 pm »
1-2-3 3rd

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Appel’s changeup looked really good in that 3rd inning. Was also working at a much quicker pace.

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« Reply #190 on: June 12, 2014, 09:47:15 pm »
Baby steps I guess.  Aiken may pass him up next year.

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« Reply #191 on: June 12, 2014, 10:00:14 pm »
At this rate, lots more than Aiken would pass him.

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« Reply #192 on: June 12, 2014, 10:04:49 pm »
At this rate, lots more than Aiken would pass him.

Maybe that will provide some extra motivation.
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« Reply #193 on: June 12, 2014, 10:07:04 pm »
Maybe that will provide some extra motivation.

It doesn't seem like its motivation.  I really hope it's just physical (short term).

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« Reply #194 on: June 12, 2014, 10:33:52 pm »
Baby steps I guess.  Aiken may pass him up next year.

An earlier tweet......

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Appel's velocity is down to 90 +/- 1. There is action in the bullpen. It is the 2nd inning.

 

Also........
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Too soon to give up on Appel, but it's fair to no longer have him written in as a FOR-SURE future starter. He is really struggling.

Tyler Stafford @JeffBlogwell  ·  1h
The great news for the Astros is if even if Appel never records another out, their prospect wave is still coming. System is stacked.

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Jon Singleton had a terrible year last season and look what he's doing. Just saying you can't write off Appel's struggles anymore.

and.......

take it fwiw...

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« Reply #195 on: June 12, 2014, 10:39:07 pm »
I can't tell you how fucking irritating it is seeing these good-for-nothing cocksucking Cubs fans gloating and shouting everywhere how glad they are that the Astros took Appel and passed on Bryant. It makes my fucking head want to explode. I'm not even asking to go back and get Bryant. I'd fucking take Gray or Kohl Stewart in a heartbeat at this point. Just have to hope it's just one of those strange seasons for Appel and hope he comes out next year with something to prove. I knew the odds were that at least one of the three number one overall picks would greatly disappoint but I didn't expect it to be Appel. I thought he'd at least be decent. Thank God for Captain Correa. Hope I can says thanks for Aiken too. Don't look at the stats for Kohl, Gray, Bryant, JP Crawford, Hunter Harvey, etc. unless you want to break something. The Rangers' first round pitcher pick in the 20's, Alex Gonzalez, is already at AA even. Fuck.
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« Reply #196 on: June 13, 2014, 12:45:18 am »
It doesn't seem like its motivation.  I really hope it's just physical (short term).

Wondering if its really not physical at all.  Last year he didn't do so well at Quad Cities, and unless he had another injury last year prior to QC which everyone forgot to tell us about, we may have another Jio on our hands.  To me, he lacks any deception in his delivery (almost like a pitching machine) which would explain why the hitters aren't getting fooled at all.
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« Reply #197 on: June 13, 2014, 01:40:34 am »
Wondering if its really not physical at all.  Last year he didn't do so well at Quad Cities, and unless he had another injury last year prior to QC which everyone forgot to tell us about, we may have another Jio on our hands.  To me, he lacks any deception in his delivery which gives the hitters a good look at each pitch. Still too early to tell though.

He didn't dominate but he was nowhere near this terrible. He had like a 3.79 era and 1.20 whip. I would jump for joy if he had that right now. I understand that surgeries near the core can really mess pitchers up plus he has right thumb tendonitis but he still shouldn't be this bad. Verlander had surgery on his core and he's sucking but not to the extent of having an 11 era. Yikes.

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« Reply #198 on: June 13, 2014, 07:29:42 am »

and.......

take it fwiw...

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This would concern me more than anything, but I find this hard to believe.  This guy has been under a microscope for 2 years now, why would this be the first we are hearing?

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« Reply #199 on: June 13, 2014, 07:44:50 am »
Wondering if its really not physical at all.  Last year he didn't do so well at Quad Cities, and unless he had another injury last year prior to QC which everyone forgot to tell us about, we may have another Jio on our hands.  To me, he lacks any deception in his delivery (almost like a pitching machine) which would explain why the hitters aren't getting fooled at all.
Uh, Jio was not a 1-1, not even close. If Appel keeps this up, that comparison would be apples and oranges. 

And being in A ball, it has to be way more than lack of deception, although that might be part of it.

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« Reply #200 on: June 13, 2014, 07:54:05 am »
This would concern me more than anything, but I find this hard to believe.  This guy has been under a microscope for 2 years now, why would this be the first we are hearing?
I agree. "Serious work ethic issues" would be a pretty bizarre thing for the Astro scouts to have missed, following him so closely for 2 years or more.

Hopefully one day we'll look back on all this hysteria and laugh and wonder why we worried so much about a handful of early-season starts in the Launching Pad League.
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« Reply #201 on: June 13, 2014, 08:00:19 am »
I agree. "Serious work ethic issues" would be a pretty bizarre thing for the Astro scouts to have missed, following him so closely for 2 years or more.

Hopefully one day we'll look back on all this hysteria and laugh and wonder why we worried so much about a handful of early-season starts in the Launching Pad League.

Hopefully, but it's been a year since he was drafted and we haven't seen any progress from him. Nothing that indicates he's one day closer to be a top-of-the-rotation leader they thought, and told us, they were getting. Certainly health issues are a set-back but he needs to start moving the needle. I wish him well.

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« Reply #202 on: June 13, 2014, 08:23:22 am »
Appel said he is going back to Houston over the all-star break to unwind.

I'm sure he'll try to go into the second half with a blank sheet of paper.

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« Reply #203 on: June 13, 2014, 08:35:48 am »
Just reading between all the lines said and unsaid, both by him and the club, I'm starting to wonder if he is a head case.  Also, when I hear that being from Houston was a consideration, I hear people pointing to the top of the pyramid, that maybe Crane played a big role in the pick.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #204 on: June 13, 2014, 08:50:03 am »
I saw a top 20 list a couple of weeks ago of the worst starts by a top 3 pick in the minors since 2000.  Appel had two on the list and so did Gray.  He's had better outings than Appel, but he's been very inconsistent up to this point.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #205 on: June 14, 2014, 07:11:42 pm »
Brandon Meredith and VV to return from their EST injury rehabs shortly after ASB.

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« Reply #206 on: June 21, 2014, 10:28:16 pm »
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Cannot confirm during broadcast but I was told Correa’s ankle is not broken. Hopefully more good news to come.

But he may have broken something else.

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According to source, Carlos Correa may have broken his right fibula tonight.

Talk about a friggin' rollercoaster.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #207 on: June 21, 2014, 11:39:54 pm »
Dammit.  Correa.  Poor kid.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #208 on: June 22, 2014, 08:19:19 am »
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #209 on: June 22, 2014, 08:55:35 am »
Why is a broken fibula good news?
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« Reply #210 on: June 22, 2014, 09:05:02 am »
Why is a broken fibula good news?

It's good when it's not.
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« Reply #211 on: June 22, 2014, 10:53:59 am »
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #212 on: June 22, 2014, 12:30:13 pm »
I posted an update from Luhnow under the Correa Talk Zone thread. Crux is it is ankle situation with no mention of a leg problem. Will be further evaluated in Houston by the clubs' foot/ankle specialist. Regarding Appel...Luhnow not worried. He's not walking guys and his stuff is good. Expecting better results soon.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #213 on: June 22, 2014, 04:05:53 pm »
Pre game, Luhnow also said Correa would go to the AFL to make up for lost time.
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« Reply #214 on: June 22, 2014, 04:17:12 pm »
Which to me also means he'll be in CC in the Spring.  Good Lord willing.
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #215 on: June 22, 2014, 08:44:27 pm »
Appel with his best outing (5/6/4/3/0/2) since returning from EST, so I suppose that's progress. He contributed to the unearned run with an errant pickoff throw. Also had a WP which aided in another run.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #216 on: June 22, 2014, 10:48:10 pm »
Chan Moon promoted from QC to take Correa's spot on the roster.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #217 on: June 25, 2014, 06:53:38 pm »
Jim Callis of MLB Pipeline says the JetHawks have the best starting rotation in all of minor league baseball.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #218 on: June 25, 2014, 07:55:14 pm »
Elkins promoted from QC to take Kemp's spot on roster.

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« Reply #219 on: June 25, 2014, 08:46:30 pm »
Jim Callis of MLB Pipeline says the JetHawks have the best starting rotation in all of minor league baseball.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #220 on: June 26, 2014, 07:27:44 pm »
The latest installment of BP's Eyewitness Accounts features Mark Appel. I can't say I'm too surprised by the assessment.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #221 on: June 26, 2014, 07:41:47 pm »
Thanks.  I'm a little surprised on the projection of the slider, and was initially surprised at the demeanor comment, but after giving it a little thought, it's not that surprising.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #222 on: June 26, 2014, 09:20:37 pm »
#4 starter material. Ouch.

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« Reply #223 on: June 27, 2014, 09:15:25 am »
Grasping optimistically here, but...

1) Didn't he start out slow last year with Stanford?  That, plus adjusting to pro ball, plus just having surgery and missing ST, plus having a thumb injury, plus pitching in a hitter's haven...

2) He's only throwing 1 secondary pitch for each start?  Did I read that right?  If that's the case, then it makes it even more difficult to judge his results.

3) Are we supposed to be concerned that Appel took the bad outing in stride and isn't throwing a fit on the bench because he is struggling?  Isn't that the kind of stuff that scouts didn't like about DDS?


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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #224 on: June 27, 2014, 09:42:27 am »
I don't get why some feel compelled to find excuses for his double digit ERA in high A ball.  Does it mean that he won't be great?  No, that ultimately appears to be up to him, but he isn't exhibiting what it takes to get there, and that should alarm fans.  I bet it alarms those who drafted him.  Also, it's not that he isn't throwing fits, that's badly misreading what was written; the takeaway is that he is not showing a passion and instead, just going through the motions. 

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #226 on: June 27, 2014, 11:30:26 am »
Tonight.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140627&content_id=81873048&fext=.jsp&vkey=recap&sid=t491

I didn't realize the Jethawks had dropped five straight. Let's see, did something happen about five days ago? Probably a coincidence as Kemp left also.

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« Reply #227 on: June 27, 2014, 11:50:11 am »
I don't get why some feel compelled to find excuses for his double digit ERA in high A ball.  Does it mean that he won't be great?  No, that ultimately appears to be up to him, but he isn't exhibiting what it takes to get there, and that should alarm fans.  I bet it alarms those who drafted him.  Also, it's not that he isn't throwing fits, that's badly misreading what was written; the takeaway is that he is not showing a passion and instead, just going through the motions. 

I'm not making excuses, just trying to get the whole picture.  I'm definitely concerned, as I'm sure the Astros are as well.

That said, it's a long path to the big leagues (even though his wasn't supposed to be) and to freak out because some scout place a back end of the rotation talent on him after seeing one appearance seems to be a bit of an overreaction.

He's not showing passion?  How do you show passion when you're getting roughed up on the mound?

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« Reply #229 on: June 27, 2014, 01:39:52 pm »
I don't get why some feel compelled to find excuses for his double digit ERA in high A ball. 
Well, it's either that or come to the conclusion that the Astros' decision makers are so bad they drafted a guy who should've been about the 100th pick, while the Cubs' are such geniuses they drafted the 2nd-best player of the past decade, just behind Trout. So, if you're insinuating that there's some wishful thinking going on, well, you're damn right there is. Because the alternative is just too damn depressing.
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« Reply #230 on: June 27, 2014, 01:47:26 pm »
Three starts from now, this wringing of the hands about Appel will subside. It's too damn early to get too exercised about it.
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« Reply #231 on: June 27, 2014, 02:17:06 pm »
Three starts from now, this wringing of the hands about Appel will subside. It's too damn early to get too exercised about it.

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« Reply #232 on: June 27, 2014, 02:36:12 pm »
Well, it's either that or come to the conclusion that the Astros' decision makers are so bad they drafted a guy who should've been about the 100th pick, while the Cubs' are such geniuses they drafted the 2nd-best player of the past decade, just behind Trout. So, if you're insinuating that there's some wishful thinking going on, well, you're damn right there is. Because the alternative is just too damn depressing.


Of course if they'd drafted Bryant fans would be wringing their hands over his strike out rate and calling him Springer without the athleticism.
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« Reply #233 on: June 27, 2014, 02:45:31 pm »
Of course if they'd drafted Bryant fans would be wringing their hands over his strike out rate and calling him Springer without the athleticism.
Ha. Probably so. "You need to draft an Ace pitcher or an up-the-middle player with the #1 pick, not some one-dimensional slugger."
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« Reply #234 on: June 27, 2014, 02:47:33 pm »
Ha. Probably so. "You need to draft an Ace pitcher or an up-the-middle player with the #1 pick, not some one-dimensional slugger."

Right. Jon Gray.  And then worrying about why he's not striking out more than a batter per inning.  Or why he gave up 8 earned a couple of weeks ago.
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« Reply #235 on: June 27, 2014, 02:55:31 pm »
That said, it's a long path to the big leagues (even though his wasn't supposed to be) and to freak out because some scout place a back end of the rotation talent on him after seeing one appearance seems to be a bit of an overreaction.

He's not showing passion?  How do you show passion when you're getting roughed up on the mound?

I'm not freaking out, just not going out of my way to make up excuses.

As to your second question, you miss the writer's point again. 

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #236 on: June 27, 2014, 09:55:04 pm »
Before tonight, Chan Moon had 6 HRs in 285 minor league games. He's gone deep twice tonight at the Hangar and it's just the 3rd inning. JetHawks up 11-3.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #237 on: June 27, 2014, 10:05:16 pm »
Appel with the rocky start, allowing base hits to 5 (4 singles, 1 triple) of the first 9 hitters. Settled down to retire 7 of the next 8 hitters. Now thru 4 innings.

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« Reply #238 on: June 27, 2014, 10:06:36 pm »
Appel with the rocky start, allowing base hits to 5 (4 singles, 1 triple) of the first 9 hitters. Settled down to retire 7 of the next 8 hitters. Now thru 4 innings.

I wonder if his issues are mental?

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« Reply #239 on: June 27, 2014, 10:26:23 pm »
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« Reply #240 on: June 27, 2014, 11:51:23 pm »
1B Conrad Gregor on the year (QC and Lancaster combined): 43 walks vs 42 strikeouts.

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« Reply #241 on: June 29, 2014, 09:30:10 pm »
1B Conrad Gregor on the year (QC and Lancaster combined): 43 walks vs 42 strikeouts.

Listening to Luhnow on Astros pregame today they discussed Gregor. He made it sound like Lancaster would be a short stay for him on his way to Corpus.

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« Reply #242 on: June 29, 2014, 09:32:16 pm »


Luhnow thinks Appel will be in Corpus sometime this season. I think he said if he can put three or so good outings together they would move him up.

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« Reply #243 on: June 30, 2014, 12:20:46 am »
Luhnow thinks Appel will be in Corpus sometime this season. I think he said if he can put three or so good outings together they would move him up.

Did he say anything about Hader?   Dude has been pretty much lights out this season.

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« Reply #244 on: June 30, 2014, 01:21:47 am »
Listening to Luhnow on Astros pregame today they discussed Gregor. He made it sound like Lancaster would be a short stay for him on his way to Corpus.

It's a cinch the current regular, Perdomo, does not figure to be a 1B prospect, and Nash is about out of opportunities.  Bring him on up.
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« Reply #245 on: June 30, 2014, 06:33:31 am »
Did he say anything about Hader?   Dude has been pretty much lights out this season.

No mention of Hader.

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« Reply #246 on: June 30, 2014, 08:49:50 am »
No mention of Hader.
Maybe Luhnow's a Hader Hater.
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« Reply #247 on: July 01, 2014, 11:13:49 pm »
McCullers started tonight and left after one scoreless inning - which, in light of recent events, had me thinking the worst - but Eric L. Smith tweeted beforehand that he was only scheduled to go one, as he was returning from the DL for a minor back issue.

In other news, Brandon Meredith was promoted to CC, with Jordan Scott going the other way.

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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #248 on: July 03, 2014, 09:48:36 am »
Here is a very good article on Teoscar Hernandez. There is a lot to like here. http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2014/7/3/5854642/prospect-perspective-teoscar-hernandez-houston-astros-lancaster-jethawks

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« Reply #249 on: July 10, 2014, 09:43:53 pm »
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« Reply #250 on: July 10, 2014, 10:24:14 pm »
Against worst-hitting team in the Cal League, Appel allows 7 runs on 13 hits (including a HR and 5 doubles) in 4.1 IP.

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« Reply #251 on: July 10, 2014, 10:36:16 pm »
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Re: Lancaster - 2014
« Reply #252 on: July 10, 2014, 10:39:52 pm »
Three starts from now, this wringing of the hands about Appel will subside. It's too damn early to get too exercised about it.

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« Reply #253 on: July 11, 2014, 01:02:53 am »
welp

Okay. Maybe it is time. Something's wrong.
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« Reply #254 on: July 11, 2014, 07:55:14 am »
Okay. Maybe it is time. Something's wrong.

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« Reply #255 on: July 11, 2014, 08:43:57 am »
in a tweet Keith Law posted this answer in regards to whether Appel is still a Top 50 prospect: "Yes-velocity is fine, delivery is fine, he's healthy. Makeup is good, I'm really not worried. He's also pitching on the surface of the moon". 

So what is it? No movement? No command? I'm not accepting the ballpark issue as Hader and Velasquez have had great success this year.

Speaking of Velasquez, doesn't it seem he's been out forever?

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« Reply #256 on: July 11, 2014, 08:45:21 am »
I'm guessing they run him out there for 2-3 more starts and then shut him down for some fake injury.  

It will be really interesting to see how Luhnow handles this.  Where do you start him next year?  Quad Cities??  Between this and Aiken, the whole rebuild thing is running of the tracks.

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« Reply #257 on: July 11, 2014, 08:47:04 am »
in a tweet Keith Law posted this answer in regards to whether Appel is still a Top 50 prospect: "Yes-velocity is fine, delivery is fine, he's healthy. Makeup is good, I'm really not worried. He's also pitching on the surface of the moon". 

So what is it? No movement? No command? I'm not accepting the ballpark issue as Hader and Velasquez have had great success this year.

Speaking of Velasquez, doesn't it seem he's been out forever?

You could also point to SSS, too, but following his starts is just painful.  I'm trying to be optimistic but wasn't this guy supposed to be the safe pick?

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« Reply #258 on: July 11, 2014, 09:57:20 am »
Speaking of Velasquez, doesn't it seem he's been out forever?

He was just assigned to the GCL to start rehab.
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« Reply #259 on: July 11, 2014, 10:01:05 am »
What was VV's injury?

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« Reply #260 on: July 11, 2014, 10:16:18 am »
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« Reply #261 on: July 11, 2014, 10:36:06 am »
I'm guessing they run him out there for 2-3 more starts and then shut him down for some fake injury.  

It will be really interesting to see how Luhnow handles this.  Where do you start him next year?  Quad Cities??  Between this and Aiken, the whole rebuild thing is running of the tracks.
Luckily the rebuild does not depend solely on those 2 players. Sure, there's no denying that this has been a bad year for the Top 10-types, with Folty and Stassi struggling, Correa breaking his leg, DeShields getting beaned and now struggling, Fontana out for an extended time, McCullers not setting the world on fire, and so forth. Still plenty of bright spots though.

And, I think there is no chance in hell that Appel starts next year at Quad Cities, unless it is on injury rehab. I imagine they'll move him up to CC by the end of July pretty much regardless of how his remaining Lancaster starts go.
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« Reply #262 on: July 11, 2014, 10:42:35 am »
Yeah, Luhnow said he would be up after after a few good starts, and apparently some of his starts met that threshold.  I doubt the last one does though.  Maybe the bar will be lowered to a few good innings. 

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« Reply #263 on: July 11, 2014, 11:02:21 am »
Luckily the rebuild does not depend solely on those 2 players. Sure, there's no denying that this has been a bad year for the Top 10-types, with Folty and Stassi struggling, Correa breaking his leg, DeShields getting beaned and now struggling, Fontana out for an extended time, McCullers not setting the world on fire, and so forth. Still plenty of bright spots though.

And, I think there is no chance in hell that Appel starts next year at Quad Cities, unless it is on injury rehab. I imagine they'll move him up to CC by the end of July pretty much regardless of how his remaining Lancaster starts go.

I agree that the depth is great. Pitching-wise I don't see many guys that could be ace-material except for the two #1s and Folty but I don't trust his control at this point. Sometimes guys develop that you don't project. Roy O. would fit that category I believe. You mention DDS. I'm starting to doubt he will ever impact this club.

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« Reply #264 on: July 11, 2014, 11:42:47 am »
Velasquez for sure has ace potential, ditto McCullers. Perhaps you can lump Hader and Feliz in that category now too. And lots of other guys with #3-4 ceilings.
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« Reply #265 on: July 11, 2014, 12:29:45 pm »
Velasquez for sure has ace potential, ditto McCullers. Perhaps you can lump Hader and Feliz in that category now too. And lots of other guys with #3-4 ceilings.

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« Reply #266 on: July 11, 2014, 06:34:02 pm »
Maybe the bar will be lowered to a few good innings. 

See that at bat?  That at bat right there!?! [/worrell]
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« Reply #267 on: July 12, 2014, 01:45:36 am »
Rumor has it the Astros are really worried about MA's mental toughness.  It is still somewhat early but damn.  Maybe there is an injury he isnt copping too, or just needs to get out of Lancaster. 
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« Reply #268 on: July 12, 2014, 09:17:30 am »
Thurman, the second round pick from last year, has been pretty mediocre so far in QC.

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« Reply #269 on: July 12, 2014, 10:39:08 am »
Hader had a string of great outings since the season began but he has had two poor starts in a row.
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« Reply #271 on: July 16, 2014, 09:06:49 pm »
Appel getting hit around again, of course.

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« Reply #272 on: July 16, 2014, 09:18:15 pm »
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« Reply #273 on: July 16, 2014, 09:25:17 pm »
1 2/3 IP, 7 runs
Does that help or hurt his ERA?

Seriously, while I never thought he was a stud, he certainly was way, way better than this.  I can't even make up reasons why he is performing this poorly in A ball.

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« Reply #274 on: July 16, 2014, 09:31:20 pm »
Get him out of Lancaster.  Who the fuck knows.  This org is such a joke.

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« Reply #275 on: July 16, 2014, 09:32:30 pm »
I can't even make up reasons why he is performing this poorly in A ball.

It really is fucking ludicrous.  Combine this with the out-of-nowhere Aiken situation, and damn...
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« Reply #276 on: July 17, 2014, 07:03:25 am »
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« Reply #277 on: July 17, 2014, 10:52:50 am »
Does that help or hurt his ERA?

Seriously, while I never thought he was a stud, he certainly was way, way better than this.  I can't even make up reasons why he is performing this poorly in A ball.

Just looking at the game logs nearly every ball in play his last two games was hit to right field or up the middle.  If his velocity is fine then his command is clearly is mess.
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« Reply #278 on: July 20, 2014, 09:59:09 pm »
Anyone seen Chan Moon play yet?  His error rate is alarming to say the least.  He's had very good batting stats, both at QC and LAN, but errors are eating up any value he may be constructing at the plate.
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« Reply #279 on: July 21, 2014, 09:10:43 am »
Hader back on track with a good start last night.
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« Reply #280 on: July 21, 2014, 09:33:18 am »
Hader back on track with a good start last night.

Hader:  5/3/0/0/1/7  9-1, 2.41.

Grills pretty good too. 4/5/2/1/0/4 

It was played in Lancaster. Look forward to seeing what Hader does in C.C. when he gets the call which I suspect may be this year.

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« Reply #281 on: July 21, 2014, 10:05:48 am »
It would be great to see Hader get 5 or more starts at Corpus Christi. He looks to be capable of moving up quickly.
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« Reply #282 on: July 21, 2014, 03:47:09 pm »
Hader:  5/3/0/0/1/7  9-1, 2.41.

Grills pretty good too. 4/5/2/1/0/4 
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« Reply #283 on: July 21, 2014, 06:04:33 pm »
According to a tweet from Eric Smith (@Eric_L_Smith), Appel has been scratched from tomorrow's scheduled start and will instead start on Thursday. Minor league pitching coordinator Dyar Miller apparently in town to work with him.

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« Reply #284 on: July 22, 2014, 06:54:50 am »
Anyone seen Chan Moon play yet?  His error rate is alarming to say the least.  He's had very good batting stats, both at QC and LAN, but errors are eating up any value he may be constructing at the plate.

Saw him play in Greeneville several years ago.  At that time, his glove was ahead of his bat.  His bat has significantly improved. In Gville, he was pretty much a slap hitter.  That has changed.  I am not sure he will be able to stay at SS.  He is likely a utility guy at best.  I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing him get some outfield work at some point in time.
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« Reply #285 on: July 24, 2014, 10:19:53 pm »
Appel has given up only one hit in three innings tonight in Stockton. No runs, no BBs, 2ks.

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« Reply #286 on: July 24, 2014, 11:08:33 pm »
MA has gone 6 innings, gave up 5 hits, 2 runs, 0 walks and 7ks.  According to twitter the last fastball he threw was clocked at 95.  He is supposedly done for the night.  Very encouraging. 
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« Reply #287 on: July 24, 2014, 11:32:29 pm »
MA has gone 6 innings, gave up 5 hits, 2 runs, 0 walks and 7ks.  According to twitter the last fastball he threw was clocked at 95.  He is supposedly done for the night.  Very encouraging. 

And again nearly every ball put in play was to center or right side.
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« Reply #288 on: July 24, 2014, 11:35:35 pm »
I see they are playing on the road today, but it says the wind is blowing out to CF at 12mph.  Is Stockton a hitter friendly park too?
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« Reply #289 on: July 25, 2014, 03:12:41 am »
And again nearly every ball put in play was to center or right side.
What's the significance of that, assuming he's facing LHB and RHB? That he's not locating to his arm side well? Or that his slider is breaking the way it should?
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« Reply #290 on: July 25, 2014, 07:00:01 am »
MiLB.com has a good article up about the start.

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"Some of the pitching coaches and I, we made a minor adjustment in the bullpen that I was able to carry over," Appel said. "It wasn't anything serious. I'm not saying that's the cure for this season, but it's something that I feel comfortable with. It's something that I can continue to work on. I was able to get a little feedback tonight just from the way that some of the guys from Stockton were taking swings at fastballs that, in the past, were getting hit. The way they would react to some of my offspeed stuff where, I think in the past, they were able to see it a little bit better. The feedback was pretty good."

Appel opened with three straight scoreless innings, just the second time all season he started off that way and the first time since April 10 at Lake Elsinore.

The adjustment ahead of his second victory would appear indiscernible to the average observer, Appel said, but it allows the 6-foot-5 righty an extra "6 to 8 inches in stride length" and a straighter path to the plate. Appel thinks that will help create deception and benefit his offspeed pitches as well.

Let's hope that this adjustment sticks and carries over to continued success. There are plenty of reasons for optimism (players performing well, etc) in the organization this season that have been overshadowed by a few (admittedly big) problems. A strong final month, month and a half, by Appel would go a long way toward regaining some of that hope.

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« Reply #291 on: July 25, 2014, 07:49:54 am »
Very encouraging. 

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« Reply #292 on: July 25, 2014, 07:50:55 am »
Thanks for the link.  Those quotes are telling.  I guess I can understand some entitlement, but have trouble understanding how getting your ass kicked isn't sufficient motivation to fight back, and thus, get the hell out of there.  Anyways, good to see him have a outing like this to regain some confidence and get into a positive frame about his future.


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« Reply #293 on: July 25, 2014, 12:55:27 pm »
Thanks for the link.  Those quotes are telling.  I guess I can understand some entitlement, but have trouble understanding how getting your ass kicked isn't sufficient motivation to fight back, and thus, get the hell out of there.  Anyways, good to see him have a outing like this to regain some confidence and get into a positive frame about his future.



Yeah, thrown back a bit by his comments.  Sounds a bit as though he felt like he wouldn't have to go through the minors like everyone else.  And through repeated beatings, he has realized the errors in his thinking.

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« Reply #294 on: July 25, 2014, 03:03:55 pm »
Yeah, thrown back a bit by his comments.  Sounds a bit as though he felt like he wouldn't have to go through the minors like everyone else.  And through repeated beatings, he has realized the errors in his thinking.

It started to irk me somewhat that he would have that attitude.  But, if he's moved on from it, I'm glad that he's moved on from it.  If nothing else, it shows that he's maturing as the season moves on. 

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« Reply #295 on: July 25, 2014, 03:10:17 pm »
It started to irk me somewhat that he would have that attitude.  But, if he's moved on from it, I'm glad that he's moved on from it.  If nothing else, it shows that he's maturing as the season moves on. 

I don't think he was alone in thinking that he'd be able to move through the minors rapidly.  Most people assumed that, because of his age and polish, he'd be in Houston as soon as 2015.
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« Reply #296 on: July 25, 2014, 03:12:17 pm »
It started to irk me somewhat that he would have that attitude.  But, if he's moved on from it, I'm glad that he's moved on from it.  If nothing else, it shows that he's maturing as the season moves on. 

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« Reply #297 on: July 25, 2014, 04:22:20 pm »
I don't think he was alone in thinking that he'd be able to move through the minors rapidly.  Most people assumed that, because of his age and polish, he'd be in Houston as soon as 2015.
Hell, I think a lot of people (me included) thought he had a good shot at making his debut sometime this year. And that's not even counting Harold Reynolds' crackpot proclamations. I still think 2015 is likely.
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« Reply #298 on: July 25, 2014, 04:50:48 pm »
Ironic all this seems.  If Appel was in need of some humble pie, then the very place he felt he didn't belong (Lancaster) is exactly where he needed to be.

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« Reply #299 on: July 26, 2014, 05:33:35 am »
What surprises me is how honest he is.  Most folks, especially someone who is bright enough to be successful at Stanford,  would filter those thoughts because it would be embarrassing. 
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« Reply #300 on: July 26, 2014, 06:57:23 am »
What surprises me is how honest he is.  Most folks, especially someone who is bright enough to be successful at Stanford,  would filter those thoughts because it would be embarrassing. 

It sounds to me like Appel has been shocked by the change from the amateur to professional game. He went from playing for the Cardinal to playing against guys who were playing for jobs and for keeps. Playing for money changes everything.
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« Reply #301 on: July 26, 2014, 10:19:30 am »
And Appel gets promoted to Corpus.  Nolan has been banging the drum to get him out of Lancaster for awhile now, guess they are using the last outing as a reason.
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« Reply #302 on: July 26, 2014, 01:31:23 pm »
And Appel gets promoted to Corpus.  Nolan has been banging the drum to get him out of Lancaster for awhile now, guess they are using the last outing as a reason.
Where'd you hear that about Nolan? I'd think, if anything, he'd want pitchers to learn to suck it up and deal with adversity rather than run from it.
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« Reply #303 on: July 26, 2014, 03:51:06 pm »
Josh Hader tweets in response to Appel's promotion:

And that's how that goes... Smh #unreal

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« Reply #304 on: July 26, 2014, 03:58:43 pm »
Josh Hader tweets in response to Appel's promotion:

And that's how that goes... Smh #unreal

Brandon Meredith doesn't appreciate it:

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« Reply #305 on: July 26, 2014, 04:14:14 pm »
Ah the age of twitter

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« Reply #306 on: July 26, 2014, 05:54:34 pm »
Twitter + emotional youngsters = oops

I'd really expect the Astros to draft young men with better judgment than that. 
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« Reply #307 on: July 26, 2014, 05:59:51 pm »
I'd really expect the Astros to draft young men with better judgment than that. 

Technically, he wasn't drafted.  That said, I can see why he's upset.  The guy has done everything asked of him and performed, yet no promotion.  Life's not fair and Hader needs to learn that, and how to keep those comments off the net, but I understand the frustration.
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« Reply #308 on: July 26, 2014, 06:15:03 pm »
I'd really expect the Astros to draft young men with better judgment than that. 

This is as close to a pass as it gets.  When some prima donna comes though and gets his ass kicked from here to Sunday and then gets promoted on what has a better chance of being a PR move then baseball move, yeah, unreal.

That being said, he should zip it.

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« Reply #309 on: July 26, 2014, 06:34:24 pm »
What does "smh" mean?
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« Reply #310 on: July 26, 2014, 06:39:27 pm »
What does "smh" mean?

"shaking my head", I believe.

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« Reply #311 on: July 26, 2014, 06:40:36 pm »
What does "smh" mean?

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« Reply #312 on: July 26, 2014, 06:41:01 pm »
I hope he takes Meredith's advice.

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« Reply #313 on: July 26, 2014, 06:45:44 pm »
I don't mind a player's voicing his annoyance at this sort of bullshit. I had to listen to Craig Biggio for twenty years and am ready for a change.
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« Reply #314 on: July 26, 2014, 06:55:04 pm »
You don't know?!? S(haking) M(y) H(ead) [and I could add A(t) Y(ou)] at you for not knowing that [Or S(haking) M(y) H(ead) A(t) M(e) for knowing this]...

And F(or) W(hat) I(ts) W(orth), I think the Appel move is a good one...

I strongly disagree. Appel is a whiny baby who's done nothing as a professional but bitch and feel entitled. I hope that he gets his ass lit up in Corpus.  I don't blame Hader for speaking out one bit.
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« Reply #315 on: July 27, 2014, 07:07:52 am »
I strongly disagree. Appel is a whiny baby who's done nothing as a professional but bitch and feel entitled. I hope that he gets his ass lit up in Corpus.  I don't blame Hader for speaking out one bit.

Well, I hope he throws a no-hitter... but your scenario is more likely.
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« Reply #316 on: July 27, 2014, 08:47:23 am »
Well, I hope he throws a no-hitter... but your scenario is more likely.

I hope that he has one pin ball outing, followed by success. I just hope that his first outing is a rocky one.
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« Reply #317 on: July 27, 2014, 08:54:02 am »
I hope that he has one pin ball outing, followed by success. I just hope that his first outing is a rocky one.
Why? And where/how has he bitched? Maybe I missed a quote somewhere, but my impression was he has been humbled and was just being honest about his previous, erroneous feelings.
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« Reply #318 on: July 27, 2014, 10:15:39 am »
Where'd you hear that about Nolan? I'd think, if anything, he'd want pitchers to learn to suck it up and deal with adversity rather than run from it.

Said it in one of his weekly visits on the Matt Thomas show on 790AM.
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« Reply #319 on: July 27, 2014, 10:38:59 am »
And Appel gets promoted to Corpus.  Nolan has been banging the drum to get him out of Lancaster for awhile now, guess they are using the last outing as a reason.

Did he say why? Is there something about Appel's pitching that isn't suited for that league?

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« Reply #320 on: July 27, 2014, 11:44:26 am »
I strongly disagree. Appel is a whiny baby who's done nothing as a professional but bitch and feel entitled. I hope that he gets his ass lit up in Corpus.  I don't blame Hader for speaking out one bit.

Appel is a whiny baby?!? I think you've got your players mixed up here Happy (seriously). To my recollection, Appel has bene honest (often brutally honest) about where he is at, and pretty damned humble throughout as well.
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« Reply #321 on: July 27, 2014, 11:54:27 am »
Appel threw a bullpen session this morning at MM with pitching coach Brent Strom. According to a Greg Rajan tweet, some of the Astros players were not happy about it.

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« Reply #322 on: July 28, 2014, 04:30:47 am »
Appel is a whiny baby?!? I think you've got your players mixed up here Happy (seriously). To my recollection, Appel has bene honest (often brutally honest) about where he is at, and pretty damned humble throughout as well.

It's been some of his honest comments that have attracted my ire. We shall see.
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« Reply #323 on: July 28, 2014, 05:51:22 pm »
Does anyone know where to find video of Hader pitching?
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« Reply #324 on: July 29, 2014, 05:35:50 am »
Hader did not let the past few days bother him on the mound last night.  4 shutout innings in a tandem save.  single, double, walk and 6 Ks against him.  Now has 111Ks in 99 innings.

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« Reply #325 on: July 29, 2014, 07:08:46 am »
VV returned from the groin problem last night and had a pretty decent outing (giving up just 2 runs in 5 IP) considering he hadn't pitched (for Lancaster, anyway) since May 8.

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« Reply #326 on: July 31, 2014, 09:41:53 pm »
Ronnie Mitchell goes deep in each of his 1st two Cal league ABs.

RBI double in 3rd AB. 5 RBIs on the night (so far).
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« Reply #327 on: August 02, 2014, 04:29:54 pm »
Josh Hader write-up from Eric Smith.

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« Reply #328 on: August 02, 2014, 05:36:50 pm »
Luhnow was on the radio broadcast the night of the trade and was asked to name some guys in the minors that may be "under the radar" and he said I'll give you two names that are at Lancaster. They were Ruiz and Hader.

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« Reply #329 on: August 02, 2014, 06:11:12 pm »
Luhnow was on the radio broadcast the night of the trade and was asked to name some guys in the minors that may be "under the radar" and he said I'll give you two names that are at Lancaster. They were Ruiz and Hader.

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« Reply #330 on: August 05, 2014, 08:47:29 am »
Luhnow was on the radio broadcast the night of the trade and was asked to name some guys in the minors that may be "under the radar" and he said I'll give you two names that are at Lancaster. They were Ruiz and Hader.

Under the radar?  Ruiz is in Law's top 50.  Hader isn't exactly a secret either. 

On a side note, good debut for Phillips at Lancaster,  3 for 5 with a double.  He was picked off first after his first inning single.  Just turned 20 at the end of May.  Having a statement year.   Might find his way onto some lists if he can keep up his pace from QC.


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« Reply #331 on: August 05, 2014, 09:37:32 am »
Under the radar?  Ruiz is in Law's top 50.  Hader isn't exactly a secret either. 

On a side note, good debut for Phillips at Lancaster,  3 for 5 with a double.  He was picked off first after his first inning single.  Just turned 20 at the end of May.  Having a statement year.   Might find his way onto some lists if he can keep up his pace from QC.



Yes, I thought it odd that he named those two guys. Either he thinks that people listening to the radio broadcast are totally ignorant to their MiL players or he just wanted to acknowledge the organization's thoughts towards these guys. I even considered if he was trying to stroke these two that may be off-put by (1) the acquisition of Moran and (2) the promotion of Appel. Then I realized I was overthinking because there is no chance that his comments would get back to those two.

Phillips at Lancaster will be worth keeping an eye on.

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« Reply #332 on: August 06, 2014, 08:40:48 am »
McCullers had a brief, but good, outing last night after a couple of stinkers previously. 3/0/1/0/4. Jethawks lost though to Modesto 5-4.

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« Reply #333 on: August 08, 2014, 09:01:05 am »
Under the radar?  Ruiz is in Law's top 50.  Hader isn't exactly a secret either. 

On a side note, good debut for Phillips at Lancaster,  3 for 5 with a double.  He was picked off first after his first inning single.  Just turned 20 at the end of May.  Having a statement year.   Might find his way onto some lists if he can keep up his pace from QC.



Might be interesting to see if Phillips makes the hot sheet.  526/526/842 in his first 4 games at Lancaster (After smacking 6 HRs in his last 8 games at QC, then a hot start at Lancaster.  His stock is shooting through the roof. 

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« Reply #334 on: August 08, 2014, 09:08:35 am »
I hope this guy is real, but I've stopped looking at Lancaster offensive stats.  They mean nothing.  Now Hader's ERA in Lancaster is another matter.  That seems very noteworthy. 

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« Reply #335 on: August 08, 2014, 10:28:10 am »
Phillips was a 2-sport guy out of HS, who had to be lured away from NC State football.  It sounds like the tools have always been there, and the upside was always the attraction.

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« Reply #336 on: August 08, 2014, 01:02:38 pm »
This article covers his choice to go pro pretty well

In the end, he decided that partying and drinking weren't distractions he wanted in the way of his professional baseball career

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« Reply #337 on: August 08, 2014, 02:14:36 pm »
I'm assuming it's OK to post this BA scouting report, since it's from before the 2012 draft. Some interesting stuff:
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Turner, of course, was the 13th overall pick this year after being discussed as a potential #1 early on. As an aside, holy shit: after hitting .228 in 23 games in the NW league, Turner was promoted to the Midwest League and is hitting .439 with 14 XBH in 23 games there. Wow.
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« Reply #338 on: August 12, 2014, 08:31:49 pm »
OF Jordan Scott out for season (what there is left of it) with bum thumb.

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« Reply #339 on: August 12, 2014, 08:49:01 pm »
OF Jordan Scott out for season (what there is left of it) with bum thumb.

Bummer.  Like the kid.
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« Reply #340 on: August 14, 2014, 02:10:39 pm »
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« Reply #341 on: August 15, 2014, 07:50:01 am »
Velasquez struck out 11 in 6 shutout innings last night as the Jethawks won 12-0. Phillips finished a single shy of the cycle; now hitting .390 since his promotion.
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« Reply #342 on: August 15, 2014, 08:21:03 am »
Velasquez struck out 11 in 6 shutout innings last night as the Jethawks won 12-0. Phillips finished a single shy of the cycle; now hitting .390 since his promotion.

Game story.   Also had back to back to back homeruns in the game

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« Reply #343 on: August 15, 2014, 09:05:11 am »
I wonder if they might get Velasquez a start or two at CC before this year is done.

I saw some video of his previous outing.  He looks pretty advanced for high A ball.

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« Reply #344 on: August 19, 2014, 10:30:04 am »
McCullers continues to struggle in a 5-4 loss to Bakersfield. 5.1/4/3/4/5/2.  Yes, that's five walks and 2ks.
Phillips with two doubles.
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« Reply #345 on: August 19, 2014, 12:16:38 pm »
It will be interesting to see where they put McCullers next year.  My money is on CC, but he hasn't exactly earned it.

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« Reply #346 on: August 20, 2014, 11:59:31 pm »
Velasquez has walked 5 batters in the last 11 innings, not good

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« Reply #347 on: August 21, 2014, 04:21:08 am »
Velasquez has walked 5 batters in the last 11 innings, not good

Clearly not, but you're searching for a mole on the homecoming queen.  Did you also notice the fact that he has yet to give up a HR at home?
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« Reply #348 on: August 21, 2014, 08:01:19 am »
Clearly not, but you're searching for a mole on the homecoming queen.  Did you also notice the fact that he has yet to give up a HR at home?

Nah just playing. 19k no runs only 5 hits.  Boy is on fire

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« Reply #349 on: August 21, 2014, 08:22:50 am »
VV was under the weather last night and still pitched 5 innings, allowing just 1 h & 3 BB while fanning 8!  I hope he gets to pitch in the Ariz. Fall League.
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« Reply #350 on: August 21, 2014, 08:50:22 am »
VV was under the weather last night and still pitched 5 innings, allowing just 1 h & 3 BB while fanning 8!  I hope he gets to pitch in the Ariz. Fall League.

He missed a lot of time this season with the groin injury so he doesn't have that many innings on his arm this year. AFL would make sense. Hopefully he's just a couple of years from the MLs. Seems like he's been in the system forever with the TJ layoff.

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« Reply #351 on: August 23, 2014, 08:31:08 am »
Brett Phillips with an absurd 5-for-5, 3 2B, 3 RBI, SB night, out hitting the opposing team all by himself. Now batting .380 at LAN and perhaps giving the org some thought of starting him at Corpus next spring?
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« Reply #352 on: August 23, 2014, 09:22:09 am »
Brett Phillips with an absurd 5-for-5, 3 2B, 3 RBI, SB night, out hitting the opposing team all by himself. Now batting .380 at LAN and perhaps giving the org some thought of starting him at Corpus next spring?

There is no other player in farm whose stock has risen further this year.  In danger of turning into organizational filler after 2 slow years.  He has put himself back into the prospect conversation and may be/have leapfrogged DDS in centerfield prospects.   Likely still behind Teoscar Hernandez, but he is a year and a half younger than Teoscar.   If he finishes August strong it will be interesting to see where he stacks up in the prospect lists next year.

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« Reply #353 on: August 23, 2014, 09:29:09 am »
There is no other player in farm whose stock has risen further this year.  In danger of turning into organizational filler after 2 slow years.  He has put himself back into the prospect conversation and may be/have leapfrogged DDS in centerfield prospects.   Likely still behind Teoscar Hernandez, but he is a year and a half younger than Teoscar.   If he finishes August strong it will be interesting to see where he stacks up in the prospect lists next year.

BA had him at #30 on last year's list. Gotta think he'll be at least top 15 this time around.

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« Reply #354 on: August 23, 2014, 09:30:36 am »
There is no other player in farm whose stock has risen further this year.  In danger of turning into organizational filler after 2 slow years.  He has put himself back into the prospect conversation and may be/have leapfrogged DDS in centerfield prospects.   Likely still behind Teoscar Hernandez, but he is a year and a half younger than Teoscar.   If he finishes August strong it will be interesting to see where he stacks up in the prospect lists next year.

I would not be surprised to see DDS included in a trade this off-season. Also would not be surprised to Santana included in a deal.

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« Reply #355 on: August 23, 2014, 10:18:26 am »
That'd be selling awful low on DeShields. Might as well start him back in CC and see what he can do when he's more recovered from the face beaning. If he had gone to college, he would've been a 2013 draftee and moving rapidly to have a whole year at AA under his belt already. No reason not to give him more time.
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« Reply #356 on: August 23, 2014, 02:48:11 pm »
There is no other player in farm whose stock has risen further this year.  In danger of turning into organizational filler after 2 slow years.  He has put himself back into the prospect conversation and may be/have leapfrogged DDS in centerfield prospects.   Likely still behind Teoscar Hernandez, but he is a year and a half younger than Teoscar.   If he finishes August strong it will be interesting to see where he stacks up in the prospect lists next year.
And unlike Teoscar, he appears to understand what that big hunk of leather he carries around is good for.
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« Reply #357 on: August 24, 2014, 12:12:13 am »
Of course Phillips goes 0-4 with 2 Ks tonight. 

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« Reply #358 on: August 24, 2014, 08:17:05 am »
And unlike Teoscar, he appears to understand what that big hunk of leather he carries around is good for.
? I've heard pretty good things about TH's defense, especially this year.
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« Reply #359 on: August 25, 2014, 06:53:37 am »
? I've heard pretty good things about TH's defense, especially this year.
Good arm, but look at the error totals!  Reading the box scores, there are a lot of "missed catch" notations.
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« Reply #360 on: August 25, 2014, 07:47:14 am »
Obviously anecdotal, but I've seen him make one play on video, and it was borderline sensational.  Of course, I haven't seen any of his errors.

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« Reply #361 on: August 27, 2014, 10:12:34 pm »
Tyler White gets some love in BA's Minor League Roundup:
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Tyler White, 1b, Lancaster (Astros). White has been overlooked on a team with Rio Ruiz, Danry Vasquez, Brett Phillips and Lance McCullers Jr., not to mention the injured Carlos Correa, but on Tuesday night the former Western Carolina star ripped two homers and knocked in six runs as part of a 4-for-5 night in a 12-5 win at High Desert. White, 23, is slashing .293/.405/.499 across two levels with 14 homers.
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« Reply #362 on: August 28, 2014, 07:05:16 am »
Tyler White gets some love in BA's Minor League Roundup:
He has been on my radar since early last year.  I think he will exceed initial expectations.
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« Reply #363 on: August 28, 2014, 09:24:27 am »
Tyler White gets some love in BA's Minor League Roundup:

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« Reply #364 on: August 28, 2014, 10:42:51 am »
23 at A ball doesn't send chills up my spine.
Late rounder last year out of a small college (Western Carolina in the Southern League) but he has hit well at every level as he progressed.  Granted he needs to continue to do that next year at Corpus, but if he does that, tearing up AA at 24 is not awful.  I don't see him displacing Singleton, but I do think he has the potential to be a useful major leaguer if he keeps it up.
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« Reply #365 on: August 28, 2014, 12:24:02 pm »
Late rounder last year out of a small college (Western Carolina in the Southern League) but he has hit well at every level as he progressed.  Granted he needs to continue to do that next year at Corpus, but if he does that, tearing up AA at 24 is not awful.  I don't see him displacing Singleton, but I do think he has the potential to be a useful major leaguer if he keeps it up.

Next year at Corpus? What about Gregor? He's not ready to move up. Does White play something other than 1B? I suppose they could alternate between 1B and DH.

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« Reply #366 on: August 28, 2014, 12:27:43 pm »
Next year at Corpus? What about Gregor? He's not ready to move up. Does White play something other than 1B? I suppose they could alternate between 1B and DH.

He also plays 3b.  I really think the Astros are looking at him as a guy who can play both corners in a backup role and wouldn't be surprised to see him play LF and RF next season.
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« Reply #367 on: August 28, 2014, 02:08:41 pm »
Can't say I was expecting this:


Deal done. 2 years as per Jethawks website.

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« Reply #368 on: August 28, 2014, 02:37:02 pm »
Very poor outing for Velasquez last night. First time in ten starts that he has given up more than 2 ERs.
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« Reply #369 on: August 28, 2014, 03:47:43 pm »
Interesting stat; Lancaster has a .561 winning % over the past three years (233-182). This season is .570 clip.

A .561 WP over a 162-game schedule would equate to 91 wins, 20 games over .500.

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« Reply #370 on: August 28, 2014, 05:00:04 pm »
Next year at Corpus? What about Gregor? He's not ready to move up. Does White play something other than 1B? I suppose they could alternate between 1B and DH.
He mostly plays 3B ... moved to 1B because of Ruiz.  It is getting crowded, but that leads to competition and trading chips.
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« Reply #371 on: September 06, 2014, 09:10:24 pm »
Chase McDonald with awesome Cal League debut in first 2 ABs--double and 3-run homer. JetHawks up 6-0 in first game of South Division finals against Inland Empire tonight.

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« Reply #372 on: September 09, 2014, 01:00:47 pm »
Jethawks sweep Inland Empire to win South Division Title - good outings by Velasquez and Westwood along the way.
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« Reply #373 on: September 09, 2014, 01:22:14 pm »
Anyone have any news on Carlos Correa?   Is he progressing well?

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« Reply #374 on: September 09, 2014, 01:52:18 pm »
Anyone have any news on Carlos Correa?   Is he progressing well?

Ahead of schedule according to Luhnow. I think I remember that he is doing some running or workouts.

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« Reply #375 on: September 09, 2014, 04:36:48 pm »
Yeah, can't link it from my phone, but there was a McT article about a week ago; he can run, and he'll take infield and BP during instructs but won't play in games. Luhnow said he would be ready to play in the Puerto Rico winter league but they might just have him focus on getting ready for ST instead. Emphasized that he's working hard.
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« Reply #376 on: September 09, 2014, 04:51:16 pm »
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« Reply #377 on: September 09, 2014, 04:54:46 pm »
Does he start back in A next year?
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« Reply #378 on: September 09, 2014, 05:34:18 pm »
Does he start back in A next year?
Doubtful ... Probably Corpus.
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« Reply #379 on: September 13, 2014, 11:21:59 am »
Lance McCullers with 6 shutout innings in Game 2 of the CAL finals. Nice to see him rebound from a rough regular season. In fact, he sort of got lost in the shuffle among the ups and downs of Appel, Hader, and Velasquez, for me at least.

Looking at his splits, a few things stand out: a lot of walks (56) and Ks (115) and HR (18) in only 97 IP. And he actually had a much harder time with righty hitters (.274 AVG, 1.75 WHIP, 12 HR) than lefties (.230, 1.33, 6 HR)... odd since his changeup is supposed to be his weakest pitch, which I would think would leave him more vulnerable to lefties.

Also, April was easily his best month - a 2.51 ERA with a 1.15 WHIP in 28 2/3 IP. He didn't have an ERA below 5.40 in any month after that, nor did he pitch as many innings... what's the story here? I assume he had injury issues; is that believed to have hindered his effectiveness the rest of the year?

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up on Astros' prospect rankings... despite the poor 5.47 ERA, if the stuff is still the same I doubt many will be overly swayed by the struggles of a 20-year-old in the Cal League who's trying to learn the changeup.
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« Reply #380 on: September 13, 2014, 12:09:32 pm »
Lance McCullers with 6 shutout innings in Game 2 of the CAL finals. Nice to see him rebound from a rough regular season. In fact, he sort of got lost in the shuffle among the ups and downs of Appel, Hader, and Velasquez, for me at least.

Looking at his splits, a few things stand out: a lot of walks (56) and Ks (115) and HR (18) in only 97 IP. And he actually had a much harder time with righty hitters (.274 AVG, 1.75 WHIP, 12 HR) than lefties (.230, 1.33, 6 HR)... odd since his changeup is supposed to be his weakest pitch, which I would think would leave him more vulnerable to lefties.

Also, April was easily his best month - a 2.51 ERA with a 1.15 WHIP in 28 2/3 IP. He didn't have an ERA below 5.40 in any month after that, nor did he pitch as many innings... what's the story here? I assume he had injury issues; is that believed to have hindered his effectiveness the rest of the year?

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up on Astros' prospect rankings... despite the poor 5.47 ERA, if the stuff is still the same I doubt many will be overly swayed by the struggles of a 20-year-old in the Cal League who's trying to learn the changeup.

Good report. It  will be interesting to see where McCullers starts next season. His stats say he isn't ready for CC but maybe, like Appel, they think getting him out of Lancaster would be a positive. Seems awful young for AA though. Particularly with control issues.

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« Reply #381 on: September 14, 2014, 12:39:04 pm »
High K/High walk rates would also lead to more pitches being thrown. This would lead to a decrease in innings for any pitcher, but with the tandem system, he's even more likely to have his day cut short.

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« Reply #382 on: September 14, 2014, 02:47:50 pm »
High K/High walk rates would also lead to more pitches being thrown. This would lead to a decrease in innings for any pitcher, but with the tandem system, he's even more likely to have his day cut short.
All true at any level, though. And if he wants to pitch deeper into games, he has to master his control. I think AA would be good for him. And getting off the launching pad may help with his willingness to pitch to contact.
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« Reply #383 on: September 14, 2014, 02:54:33 pm »
All true at any level, though. And if he wants to pitch deeper into games, he has to master his control. I think AA would be good for him. And getting off the launching pad may help with his willingness to pitch to contact.

Not disagreeing, just making an observation on why his innings may have dropped off after April.

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« Reply #384 on: September 14, 2014, 04:08:34 pm »
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« Reply #386 on: September 16, 2014, 08:34:34 pm »
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« Reply #388 on: October 03, 2014, 02:07:47 pm »
Not sure that it means anything long-term, but Correa decided to change agents:

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carlos correa, one of the best prospects in baseball, has hired greg genske/legacy. #astros

He also talked to Boras, Excel Sports, and MVP.

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« Reply #389 on: October 04, 2014, 12:13:57 pm »
Not sure that it means anything long-term, but Correa decided to change agents:

He also talked to Boras, Excel Sports, and MVP.
Assuming Greg Genske is not a spawn of Satan himself, then Correa's decision not to sign with Bora$ probably means he's not a greedy sonovabitch.
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« Reply #390 on: October 04, 2014, 01:40:25 pm »
Assuming Greg Genske is not a spawn of Satan himself, then Correa's decision not to sign with Bora$ probably means he's not a greedy sonovabitch.

Yeah, don't know anything about him (the agent). I always pause when a kid switches agents not long before reaching the majors, though. Doesn't mean he should catch flack, just curious as to why.

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« Reply #391 on: October 05, 2014, 08:20:40 am »
Yeah, don't know anything about him (the agent). I always pause when a kid switches agents not long before reaching the majors, though. Doesn't mean he should catch flack, just curious as to why.

I think we'll see more of that as teams offer more long-term contracts to players with no service time.

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« Reply #392 on: October 05, 2014, 01:53:02 pm »
I think we'll see more of that as teams offer more long-term contracts to players with no service time.
You're saying if an agent advises against it, a player might say "screw you then, I'm switching to an agent who thinks it's a good idea"?
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« Reply #393 on: October 06, 2014, 08:16:22 am »
I think it is much more of an issue when players start rubbing shoulders with higher level players and see how they are treated by their agents. 
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« Reply #394 on: October 06, 2014, 11:40:06 am »
You're saying if an agent advises against it, a player might say "screw you then, I'm switching to an agent who thinks it's a good idea"?

I've read that there's sentiment among some higher-profile agents that smaller agents are more likely to do these deals to help themselves out, not necessarily because it's in the player's (or the industry's) best interests.  The flip-side could be true, as well, that there are agents who talk players out of making a deal they want, but the other side seems to be the more common theme.  I don't know who Correa's old agent was, so I don't know if this was a concern to him, or not. 

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« Reply #395 on: October 06, 2014, 12:31:30 pm »
Yeah, I'm not sure Boras always has his clients' best interests in mind when he advises them not to sign those Longoria-type deals. I'll bet Singleton doesn't have any regrets at the moment. Whereas Dominguez and (to a lesser extent) Grossman probably have a few.

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« Reply #396 on: October 06, 2014, 02:48:42 pm »
Yeah, I'm not sure Boras always has his clients' best interests in mind when he advises them not to sign those Longoria-type deals. I'll bet Singleton doesn't have any regrets at the moment. Whereas Dominguez and (to a lesser extent) Grossman probably have a few.



I would think that the level of talent and success plays a role in these statements.  Singleton hasn't had success, yet, and the other two are fringier, but Springer is a case where he would have been vastly underpaid.  Altuve's deal is proving to be very team-friendly and Singleton still has time to prove that his deal a bargain.  I'm not saying that the early long-term deals don't provide benefit to the players by guaranteeing life-changing money, but if Mike Trout had accepted a 7-year $15MM contract as a rookie, it would have had big implications for players entering free agency.  He did wind up sign a contract before free agency, but his deal is much closer to market value than the kinds of deals other players have signed.  So, I think there can be room for criticism at times, but ultimately, it should be the player's decision; if their representation is being honest with them, then don't blame the agent.

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« Reply #397 on: October 07, 2014, 12:10:28 pm »
Four JetHawks on BA's Top 20 California League Prospects List:

#1 Correa
#8 Velasquez
#19 T. Hernandez
#20 McCullers

BTW, Colin Moran came in at #20 on BA's Top 20 Florida State League Prospects List released yesterday.

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« Reply #398 on: October 07, 2014, 12:18:39 pm »
Hader not even mentioned?  Not sure why scouts (at least the ones talking to BA) don't favor him more.

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« Reply #399 on: October 07, 2014, 01:54:58 pm »
Hader not even mentioned?  Not sure why scouts (at least the ones talking to BA) don't favor him more.

Since he finished in C.C. I suspect he would be considered a AA prospect. Although I think Teoscar finished there, too?
I'm not believing he wasn't one of the Top 20 in that league.

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« Reply #400 on: October 07, 2014, 01:55:48 pm »
I hope someone ask that question in the chat.  I am not a subscriber or I would.
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« Reply #401 on: October 07, 2014, 02:08:23 pm »
Since he finished in C.C. I suspect he would be considered a AA prospect. Although I think Teoscar finished there, too?
I'm not believing he wasn't one of the Top 20 in that league.

There are others on their list who spent time a different levels.
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« Reply #402 on: October 07, 2014, 02:59:56 pm »
There are others on their list who spent time a different levels.

Where did they finish? Were they listed at the level in which they finished?

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« Reply #403 on: October 07, 2014, 04:45:29 pm »
Where did they finish? Were they listed at the level in which they finished?

I believe both Shipley and Blair finished at AA.
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« Reply #404 on: October 07, 2014, 06:21:25 pm »
Since he finished in C.C. I suspect he would be considered a AA prospect. Although I think Teoscar finished there, too?
I'm not believing he wasn't one of the Top 20 in that league.

It has to do with whether a given player met the required minimum for that league. It's all explained at the top of that BA index page I linked to above. For pitchers, 140 games played X 1/3 = 46 2/3 innings. Hader easily qualified but obviously wasn't good enough to crack the Top 20 for the Cal League.

Hader does NOT qualify for the Texas League Top 20 as he only pitched 20 innings for CC.


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« Reply #405 on: October 07, 2014, 06:27:03 pm »
It has to do with whether a given player met the required minimum for that league. It's all explained at the top of that BA index page I linked to above. For pitchers, 140 games played X 1/3 = 46 2/3 innings. Hader easily qualified but obviously wasn't good enough to crack the Top 20 for the Cal League.

Hader does NOT qualify for the Texas League Top 20 as he only pitched 20 innings for CC.



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« Reply #406 on: October 08, 2014, 11:28:32 am »
It has to do with whether a given player met the required minimum for that league. It's all explained at the top of that BA index page I linked to above. For pitchers, 140 games played X 1/3 = 46 2/3 innings. Hader easily qualified but obviously wasn't good enough to crack the Top 20 for the Cal League.

Hader does NOT qualify for the Texas League Top 20 as he only pitched 20 innings for CC.



Ironically, the pre-season "best prospect in the game" won't be on any of their lists, since he only had 121 AB in the FSL and 3 in the Eastern League. 

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« Reply #407 on: October 08, 2014, 11:43:45 am »
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Jim Shonerd: Hader was in the same boat as Streich—probably would’ve been ranked around 23-25 if we went that deep. His main thing is deception. His delivery reminds people of Chris Sale’s with how lanky his frame is and how he throws across his body. That helps his fastball play up, working at 88-93 mph, but there’s not really anything plus in his repertoire. His secondary stuff mostly gets 40 or 45 grades on the 20-80 scale. Some guys felt he could end up a reliever. Next year in Double-A should be pretty telling for his future.

I'm not too surprised by Hader's ranking as I got to watch him start a few games on milb.tv after his promotion to Corpus. His secondary offerings were unimpressive. The majority of swinging strikes he induced were from the fastball.

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« Reply #408 on: October 08, 2014, 11:57:49 am »
A swing and miss fastball is a hell of a foundation on which to build.  He is only 20 IIRC.

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« Reply #409 on: October 08, 2014, 12:16:00 pm »
A swing and miss fastball is a hell of a foundation on which to build.  He is only 20 IIRC.

That's correct, and if he'd gone to college he would just be starting his junior year.
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« Reply #410 on: October 08, 2014, 03:05:33 pm »
That's correct, and if he'd gone to college he would just be starting his junior year.
Good point. Here's the scouting report on the top-rated college lefty in the 2015 class (from the Fangraphs article linked in our '15 draft thread):
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Not the same type pitcher as Hader, perhaps, but overall doesn't sound any more impressive - and this guy would be doing extremely well to reach AA by the end of next season.
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