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Bad Day for Former Astros
« on: March 25, 2014, 12:32:33 pm »
Chris Snyder, Armando Gallaraga and Ty Wigginton are now all unemployed.
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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 12:43:59 pm »
Snyder just got a minor league contract from the Rangers.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 12:44:12 pm »
On a more positive note, Wandy just went yard...off of Happ.  I guess that actually makes it a neutral note.

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 12:55:58 pm »
I would love to see Wandy have a good, healthy season for the Bucs, and pitch in the playoffs for them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2014, 01:24:33 pm »
I would love to see Wandy have a good, healthy season for the Bucs, and pitch in the playoffs for them.

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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 03:31:31 pm »
The bad news continues. The Fucking Sea Urchins released Q.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 03:46:43 pm »
I would love to see Wandy have a good, healthy season for the Bucs, and pitch in the playoffs for them.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2014, 04:33:26 pm »
The bad news continues. The Fucking Sea Urchins released Q.

Bastards.  First they sign him to make me feel bad, then they release him to make me feel bad.  Scurvy waterlogged biscuit weevils.
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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2014, 12:56:11 pm »
Bastards.  First they sign him to make me feel bad, then they release him to make me feel bad.  Scurvy waterlogged biscuit weevils.

Q signs a minor league deal with the hated, detestable sea urchins!
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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 05:08:39 pm »
The Fish DFA'd Bogusevic.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 10:32:33 am »
What are the Astros waiting for?
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 06:34:54 pm »
One former Astro at least is having a good day: The Chica-Sox named Matt Lindstrom their closer. I had completely forgotten that Lindstrom existed, but not only is he still playin baseball, he's put up some pretty good numbers the last few years: a cumulative 2.95 ERA with a mere 7 HR allowed in 161 IP.
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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2014, 01:51:42 am »
The Halos optioned out J.B. Shuck.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2014, 07:46:38 am »
The Halos optioned out J.B. Shuck.

Too bad. He played alot for them last year.

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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2014, 07:49:54 am »
Too bad. He played alot for them last year.

He did, but Kole Calhoun won the RF job, and other players have more upside.
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2014, 12:33:09 am »
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2014, 10:04:56 am »
J D Martinez is in AAA with the Tigers
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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2014, 02:28:45 pm »
J D Martinez is in AAA with the Tigers

I will heckle him.
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2014, 06:13:56 pm »
I will heckle him.

That's Toledo, Hap ... not LSU.
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2014, 06:16:41 pm »
That's Toledo, Hap ... not LSU.

I live in Toledo.
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2014, 07:34:49 pm »
I will heckle him.

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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2014, 10:42:44 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2014, 08:11:15 am »
My condolences.

I actually like Toledo.
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2014, 09:52:21 am »
I actually like Toledo.
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2014, 11:26:21 am »
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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2014, 03:17:44 pm »
Wandy DFA'd today.
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2014, 03:18:31 pm »
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Re: Bad Day for Former Astros
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2014, 03:29:35 pm »
Wandy DFA'd today.

He's pitched like shit for them, and he's aging. He might be done. However, he's a portsider and has a pulse, so someone will take a flyer on him.
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2014, 10:22:08 pm »
He's pitched like shit for them, and he's aging. He might be done. However, he's a portsider and has a pulse, so someone will take a flyer on him.

Someone definitely will, but man I couldn't believe when i saw he'd given up 10 HRs in just 26.2 IP this year.

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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2014, 09:27:12 am »
He's pitched like shit for them, and he's aging. He might be done. However, he's a portsider and has a pulse, so someone will take a flyer on him.

Aging has long been an issue for him.
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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2014, 09:45:18 am »
Aging has long been an issue for him.
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2014, 09:51:18 am »
It could happen to enybody.

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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2014, 10:55:18 am »
Thanks for that link.  It's Coors, but still.  Not many hitters would be hitting that pitch out to right.

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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2014, 05:33:55 pm »
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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2014, 08:32:52 am »
Troy Patton (+ cash considerations) was traded to the Padres for  Nick Hundley. Pitching at Petco may help Patton.  He tended to be a fly ball pitcher.
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2014, 06:15:23 pm »
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« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2014, 08:41:29 am »
Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio ,,,

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« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2014, 06:09:47 pm »
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2014, 06:06:46 pm »
Just saw that news about Veras. Wow.
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2014, 06:56:32 am »
He still pitched for 4 innings.
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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2014, 08:29:31 am »
This sucks.  I was wondering why he came out after four.  Hopefully, since it is the wrong hand, he might return sooner rather than later.

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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2014, 04:31:06 am »
The Rox DFA'd Wilton Lopez.
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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2014, 06:44:03 pm »
J.D. Martinez hits the go ahead home run this afternoon. He's now hitting .300, with six home runs and 22 RBIs. I'm very happy for him.
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« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2014, 09:04:53 pm »
J.D. Martinez hits the go ahead home run this afternoon. He's now hitting .300, with six home runs and 22 RBIs. I'm very happy for him.
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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2014, 12:01:14 am »
J.D. Martinez hits the go ahead home run this afternoon. He's now hitting .300, with six home runs and 22 RBIs. I'm very happy for him.
Cool! I didn't even realize he had a starting gig with them; thought he was just a backup OF.
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« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2014, 07:18:51 am »
According to the mlb.com transactions page, Carlos Pena is now a stRanger. At least there will be a breeze at the Ballpark when he's at bat.
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« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2014, 08:30:07 am »
Cool! I didn't even realize he had a starting gig with them; thought he was just a backup OF.
He hit another last night.  .314/.346/.619 for the year. 

I didn't realize he hit 10 home runs at AAA this year before he got called up.

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« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2014, 08:49:40 am »
He hit another last night.  .314/.346/.619 for the year. 

I didn't realize he hit 10 home runs at AAA this year before he got called up.

Yep. In about 18 games. I saw him hit three of them because he was playing for the Mudhens.
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« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2014, 10:38:31 am »
Martinez was one I always thought could hit at this level, but just never did.  I hated to give up on him, though I admit I was ready to.
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« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2014, 12:41:26 pm »
Martinez was one I always thought could hit at this level, but just never did.  I hated to give up on him, though I admit I was ready to.
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« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2014, 02:22:30 pm »
Barnes' catch last night.  I miss seeing him in the Houston outfield
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« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2014, 11:44:51 am »
I guess not technically a former Astro but Brooks Conrad made his Padre debut last night and went 0-3.

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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2014, 12:46:14 pm »
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« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2014, 03:35:15 am »
J.D. Martinez went 3-5 yesterday to raise his BA to .331.
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« Reply #59 on: July 09, 2014, 06:00:43 am »
J.D. Martinez went 3-5 yesterday to raise his BA to .331.

The Astros brain-trust had crunched the numbers, he's just on a lucky streak.
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« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2014, 08:54:39 am »
Once his and Grossman's BABIP regress, they will be the same player, only Grossman will be cheaper.  It will become a win.

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« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2014, 09:46:50 am »
J.D. Martinez went 3-5 yesterday to raise his BA to .331.

Yeah it was a bit shocking they didn't really give him a chance this spring given the work he did to his swing in the offseason and the short term success he had with it in fall/winter ball.  The guy throughout his career has always exceeded expectations with hard work and a Bagwellian drive to improve himself.   Hate to see the team make mistakes like this, but I'm glad he is having success.   

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« Reply #62 on: July 09, 2014, 10:31:11 am »
The Astros brain-trust had crunched the numbers, he's just on a lucky streak.
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« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2014, 10:45:51 am »
Yeah it was a bit shocking they didn't really give him a chance this spring given the work he did to his swing in the offseason and the short term success he had with it in fall/winter ball.  The guy throughout his career has always exceeded expectations with hard work and a Bagwellian drive to improve himself.   Hate to see the team make mistakes like this, but I'm glad he is having success.   

It's probably a bit premature to call it a mistake to let J.D. go. However, I am very happy for his success. He's made quite a difference in the middle of the order for Detroit, who I get to see a lot right here in their back yard.
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« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2014, 10:49:07 am »
I understand their reasons, and I would have likely done the same, but it seems pretty clear that it was a mistake.  There is ample evidence in, both visually and statistically.

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« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2014, 10:55:31 am »
I understand their reasons, and I would have likely done the same, but it seems pretty clear that it was a mistake.  There is ample evidence in, both visually and statistically.

You may well be right. Of course, one can't quantify the effect of the change of scenery alone for him. If the Astros made a mistake, it won't be the first or last time. See Morgan, "Little" Joe.
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« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2014, 11:06:31 am »
I don't discount the change of scenery aspect, but they had the opportunity to let him ply his new swing in AAA for awhile.  The reasons normally given, that they thought they had the position filled with Grossman, or that JD's minor league salary would be too high, don't really do a good job of exonerating them.  If they had let him play at OKC and he still struggled, I doubt there would be as much criticism.

And I don't mean this as an indictment of the decision makers as anyone who makes a lot of these decisions will make mistakes, but it was clearly a mistake.

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« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2014, 11:22:20 am »
I'm sure they lose sleep over the fact that some think they made a mistake.
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I'm sure they lose sleep over the fact that some think they made a mistake.
If Reid Ryan or Jim Crane were among the "some" that could be true. Otherwise, the main issue is whether THEY think they made a mistake.

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« Reply #69 on: July 11, 2014, 01:19:55 am »
J.D. was 2-3 last night with three ribbies, raising his BA to .335.
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« Reply #70 on: July 11, 2014, 06:52:27 am »
J.D. was 2-3 last night with three ribbies, raising his BA to .335.

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« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2014, 07:49:52 am »
I understand their reasons, and I would have likely done the same, but it seems pretty clear that it was a mistake.

It's not a mistake when you hit on 16 against a face card. Sometimes the right move doesn't work.
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« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2014, 08:06:11 am »
The only mistake was by not trading him to Detroit instead of just releasing him.  Detroit has said they tried to trade for him in the off season. 
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« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2014, 02:12:37 pm »
The only mistake was by not trading him to Detroit instead of just releasing him.  Detroit has said they tried to trade for him in the off season. 

On the general manager's show last night Luhnow said they tried to trade him during the beginning of the season but there was absolutely no market for him. I guess they missed their chance in the offseason.
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« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2014, 02:35:43 pm »
On the general manager's show last night Luhnow said they tried to trade him during the beginning of the season but there was absolutely no market for him. I guess they missed their chance in the offseason.

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« Reply #75 on: July 11, 2014, 02:46:51 pm »
On the general manager's show last night Luhnow said they tried to trade him during the beginning of the season but there was absolutely no market for him. I guess they missed their chance in the offseason.

Here is the quote from the Tiger's side:

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« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2014, 03:24:34 pm »
Hey that's five more at bats than Santana got. Good enough for me.
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« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2014, 03:28:59 pm »
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« Reply #78 on: July 11, 2014, 03:29:58 pm »
The Astros have made some good moves this year - Feldman, McHugh, Sipp, Fowler, Hernandez. But cutting Martinez was a real clunker.
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« Reply #79 on: July 11, 2014, 03:30:12 pm »
Now the stRangers have signed Jerome Williams. They're now tanking for a 1-1?.
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« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2014, 03:49:15 pm »
Where are you able to hear the GM show? I only hear him on Sundays on the radio broadcasts.

It appears that when the Astros don't play on Thursday evenings he's on at 6:30pm on 790.
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« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2014, 04:35:28 pm »
It's not a mistake when you hit on 16 against a face card. Sometimes the right move doesn't work.

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« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2014, 05:03:49 pm »
Ha. Every time I read about this Aiken fiasco ...
Have I missed something important here?  I thought he was just doing the normal wait-tip-the-last-minute-to-sign thing.  How has it become a fiasco?
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« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2014, 05:04:21 pm »
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« Reply #85 on: July 11, 2014, 05:08:07 pm »
But it's not an actual injury. It is a potential for injury. He can go out and pitch right now.

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« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2014, 06:41:40 pm »
My dad's got a bitchin' set of tools.  We can fix it.

Sign him anyway, but it's not my money.  Otherwise we'd get another top5 pick next year, right?
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Sign him anyway, but it's not my money.  Otherwise we'd get another top5 pick next year, right?

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« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2014, 07:13:38 pm »
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« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2014, 02:27:16 pm »
Jimmy Paredes got DFA'd again today.
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Even if we already have the first pick?

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« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2014, 05:57:54 am »
The stRangers DFA'd Carlos Pena. That's got to be it for him.
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« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2014, 09:09:34 am »
The stRangers DFA'd Carlos Pena. That's got to be it for him.

I'd like to think Pena is a metaphor for the Astros and Rangers organizations. We have not required his services for over a year now, replaced with a young player hopefully to be a stable of the organization for years. The Rangers flopping around out there trying to get through the season.

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I'd like to think Pena is a metaphor for the Astros and Rangers organizations. We have not required his services for over a year now, replaced with a young player hopefully to be a stable of the organization for years. The Rangers flopping around out there trying to get through the season.

He was originally signed by the Rangers, right? A big deal prospect, whom Billy Beane lusted after?
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« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2014, 10:15:41 pm »
He was originally signed by the Rangers, right? A big deal prospect, whom Billy Beane lusted after?

I don't know about Billy Beane's lust, but Pena was drafted by the Rangers at 1/10 in the '98 draft.
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« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2014, 06:07:10 am »
Jordan Lyles was moved to the 60 day DL this week.  His hand has not healed completely.  He will be on the DL through early August at least.
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« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2014, 01:32:53 pm »
I guess not technically a former Astro but Brooks Conrad made his Padre debut last night and went 0-3.

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I don't know about Billy Beane's lust

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« Reply #98 on: July 27, 2014, 03:24:29 pm »
Freiman back down to AAA, but Jason Lane is coming up for a spot start Monday night against the Braves for San Diego.
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Freiman back down to AAA, but Jason Lane is coming up for a spot start Monday night against the Braves for San Diego.
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« Reply #100 on: July 28, 2014, 12:03:03 pm »
This is one of the reasons I miss Brandon Barnes' presence on the bench.
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« Reply #101 on: July 28, 2014, 12:06:17 pm »
This is one of the reasons I miss Brandon Barnes' presence on the bench.

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« Reply #102 on: July 28, 2014, 12:23:37 pm »
This is one of the reasons I miss Brandon Barnes' presence on the bench.

Because the bench isn't petty and childish enough?
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« Reply #103 on: July 28, 2014, 12:28:49 pm »
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« Reply #104 on: July 28, 2014, 12:32:26 pm »
I love goofiness in baseball.

There's often a fine line between goofy and just plain stupid.  This isn't one of them.
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« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2014, 12:57:08 pm »
There's often a fine line between goofy and just plain stupid.  This isn't one of them.

It's disrespectful to the troops. 
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It's disrespectful to the troops.  

It's disrespectful to everyone.
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« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2014, 02:00:59 pm »
Lane goes six, gives up six hits, strikes out two and gives up one run on a solo HR by Gattis leading off the seventh. He takes the loss in a 2-0 game.
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« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2014, 06:28:01 pm »
It's disrespectful to the troops. 

At times I feel like an outsider looking in, this is one of those times.  MLB and the clubs seem to quite rightly put a lot into making the National Anthem respectful and dignified and straight after it is done, these guys appear to be taking the piss...  My initial reaction was that they should knock it off and stop clowning the ceremony.
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« Reply #109 on: July 28, 2014, 06:41:47 pm »
At times I feel like an outsider looking in, this is one of those times.  MLB and the clubs seem to quite rightly put a lot into making the National Anthem respectful and dignified and straight after it is done, these guys appear to be taking the piss...  My initial reaction was that they should knock it off and stop clowning the ceremony.

Some would argue that playing the National Anthem before every pissant sporting event itself cheapens it and if it were brought out only on special occasions it would regain the dignity it may have lost. Just curious, is Advance Australia Fair played before all sporting events there?

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« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2014, 07:25:03 pm »
Some would argue that playing the National Anthem before every pissant sporting event itself cheapens it and if it were brought out only on special occasions it would regain the dignity it may have lost. Just curious, is Advance Australia Fair played before all sporting events there?

We don't play the anthem too often. The national baseball comp has the anthem before every game but for most sporting events it is only finals or Anzac day.  I actually like the way it is done in US, other than the occasional painful rendition, sometimes less is more.
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« Reply #111 on: July 29, 2014, 09:11:23 am »
At times I feel like an outsider looking in, this is one of those times.  MLB and the clubs seem to quite rightly put a lot into making the National Anthem respectful and dignified and straight after it is done, these guys appear to be taking the piss...  My initial reaction was that they should knock it off and stop clowning the ceremony.

I was being sarcastic.  Personally I think it's silly to play the national anthem before every single sporting event.
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« Reply #112 on: July 29, 2014, 09:22:17 am »
I was being sarcastic.  Personally I think it's silly to play the national anthem before every single sporting event.

I strongly disagree. It is appropriate to honor one's country regularly.
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« Reply #113 on: July 29, 2014, 10:10:20 am »
I strongly disagree. It is appropriate to honor one's country regularly.

It is appropriate to honor one's country.  When it becomes a matter of routine, is it still an honor?
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It is appropriate to honor one's country.  When it becomes a matter of routine, is it still an honor?

I consider it the highest honor. We pause before the start of each event to honor the country.
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« Reply #115 on: July 29, 2014, 10:13:57 am »
I consider it the highest honor. We pause before the start of each event to honor the country.

My point is that the regularity makes many (if not most) forget that it is an honor.

For example: I'll sing the national anthem at the ballgame.  But if I hear it at the OIympics, I'm standing in my living room and most likely crying.
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« Reply #116 on: July 29, 2014, 10:14:12 am »
It is appropriate to honor one's country.  When it becomes a matter of routine, is it still an honor?

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« Reply #117 on: July 29, 2014, 10:24:31 am »
My point is that the regularity makes many (if not most) forget that it is an honor.

For example: I'll sing the national anthem at the ballgame.  But if I hear it at the OIympics, I'm standing in my living room and most likely crying.


What takes away the honor of it is not the frequency, but that 1) people like Brandon Barnes make a mockery of it, and 2) people treat every other song that strirs some emotion in them the same way.  I stand at attention with my hat over my heart when the National Anthem is played before me.  I do not give the same reverence to God Bless America, Deep In The Heart of Texas, God Bless The USA, Dixie, Freebird, or anything else.  Why?  Because they're not the National Anthem.
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« Reply #118 on: July 29, 2014, 11:01:27 am »
it is never routine.

Agreed.  Same withe the Eyes opf Texas, and we sing that twice at every game.

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« Reply #119 on: July 29, 2014, 12:22:41 pm »
I disagree with the mockery.  The National Anthem was over.  This had nothing to do with the Anthem. If you want to get upset about folks making a mockery of the anthem.  Fine, blast the folks who are checking their phones DURING the anthem.  Blast the players putting their hats back on before the last note is sung/played. 

Barnes has respect for the flag and the Anthem “I always wait until the flag hits the line or it’s out of the park,”

What happens afterwards is not disrespecting the flag or the anthem.
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Barnes has respect for the flag and the Anthem “I always wait until the flag hits the line or it’s out of the park,”

What happens afterwards is not disrespecting the flag or the anthem.

If this wasn't related to the anthem or flag, what the hell was he doing?
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« Reply #121 on: July 29, 2014, 01:23:25 pm »
I stand at attention with my hat over my heart when the National Anthem is played before me.  I do not give the same reverence to God Bless America, Deep In The Heart of Texas, God Bless The USA, Dixie, Freebird, or anything else.  Why?  Because they're not the National Anthem.

I respect this, a lot. But to be wholly honest, I get that funny feeling deep inside, and a little misty-eyed, whenever I hear the opening chords to Gimme Shelter, too.

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« Reply #122 on: July 29, 2014, 01:27:12 pm »
I thought it was amusing. 

Do they play O Canada before Blue Jays games in Houston?
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« Reply #123 on: July 29, 2014, 01:44:47 pm »
I thought it was amusing. 

Do they play O Canada before Blue Jays games in Houston?
I believe so. I remember being at a Montreal Expos game at the Dome, and we sang O Canada.
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« Reply #124 on: July 29, 2014, 01:58:16 pm »
I believe so. I remember being at a Montreal Expos game at the Dome, and we sang O Canada.

And then you never left the country again.
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« Reply #125 on: July 29, 2014, 02:06:58 pm »
I thought it was amusing. 

Do they play O Canada before Blue Jays games in Houston?

I think so.  I know they do when Canadian hockey teams play in the USA.
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« Reply #126 on: July 29, 2014, 02:10:10 pm »
And then you never left the country again.

Precisely. I don't ever leave the country.
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« Reply #127 on: July 29, 2014, 02:16:30 pm »
If this wasn't related to the anthem or flag, what the hell was he doing?

It looks to be a bit of goofiness between the end of the National Anthem and the first pitch.  They just stood out there staring at each other.

I'm not sure that I'm buying that it's an old baseball tradition.  If it were an old baseball tradition it would have statistics.
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« Reply #128 on: July 29, 2014, 03:30:06 pm »
It looks to be a bit of goofiness between the end of the National Anthem and the first pitch.  They just stood out there staring at each other.

I'm not sure that I'm buying that it's an old baseball tradition.  If it were an old baseball tradition it would have statistics.

They're part of the unwritten statistics.
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« Reply #129 on: July 29, 2014, 06:35:20 pm »
I was being sarcastic.  Personally I think it's silly to play the national anthem before every single sporting event.

I was borrowing Mr Happy's sarc-meter...

Everyone posting here is more qualified and has more of an interest in this than me, but viewing this from a distance I just thought it was pretty childish, if not disrespectful.  I have since learned they wee actually re-enacting someone's antics, that makes it even more bogus.  For context, I am a grumpy old man.
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« Reply #130 on: August 01, 2014, 02:19:37 pm »
Shreefer or whatever his nom de whoopass is has been DFA'd by the Braves.

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« Reply #131 on: August 01, 2014, 02:42:00 pm »
Shreefer or whatever his nom de whoopass is has been DFA'd by the Braves.

Wow.
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« Reply #132 on: August 01, 2014, 03:28:11 pm »
Shreefer or whatever his nom de whoopass is has been DFA'd by the Braves.

Hitting .163/.256/.213 in 80 AB (incl. 20 Ks). 13 hits and 15 SB, which is kind of an impressive pairing. Guessing he's made a few pinch-running appearances...
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« Reply #135 on: August 08, 2014, 03:49:16 pm »
stRangers DFA Williams.
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« Reply #136 on: August 08, 2014, 03:50:08 pm »
He takes it all in stride.


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« Reply #137 on: August 08, 2014, 04:29:08 pm »
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« Reply #138 on: August 09, 2014, 08:27:16 am »
Jordan Lyles is back with a new change up.  Since it was his glove hand that was broke, he worked on moving to a "split change".  It was effective in his first outing back.
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« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2014, 11:17:17 am »
Jordan Lyles is back with a new change up.  Since it was his glove hand that was broke, he worked on moving to a "split change".  It was effective in his first outing back.
Good for him. He always seemed like he needed a better "out pitch". I'd love to see him do really well.
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« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2014, 05:38:01 pm »
Good for him. He always seemed like he needed a better "out pitch". I'd love to see him do really well.

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« Reply #141 on: August 12, 2014, 08:07:38 am »
stRangers DFA Williams.

Just how desperate for pitching are the phucking Phillies? This desperate.

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« Reply #142 on: August 12, 2014, 10:09:25 am »
They could use Fields too.
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« Reply #143 on: August 12, 2014, 01:58:26 pm »
Just how desperate for pitching are the phucking Phillies? This desperate.

He's the Phightins' starting hurler tonight.
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« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2014, 03:35:43 pm »
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The Rodeo Clown makes his return to Round Rock ...

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« Reply #146 on: August 27, 2014, 08:10:51 pm »
Just how desperate for pitching are the phucking Phillies? This desperate.

But not this desperate...
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« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2014, 07:28:10 pm »
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« Reply #148 on: August 29, 2014, 07:02:07 am »
Speaking of the Orioles, Steve Pearce is hitting .290 with 16 bombs this season.
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« Reply #149 on: August 31, 2014, 10:30:00 am »
Another good day yesterday for Williams and Cosart.
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« Reply #150 on: August 31, 2014, 12:14:48 pm »
Another good day yesterday for Williams and Cosart.

Cosart in 5 starts since the trade; 3-1, 1.64 ERA. 
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« Reply #151 on: August 31, 2014, 12:22:12 pm »
Cosart pitched 60 innings with a 1.95 ERA in 2013. He also pitched some good games this year for the Astros. You have to trade good players to get good players.

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« Reply #152 on: August 31, 2014, 12:39:15 pm »
Cosart pitched 60 innings with a 1.95 ERA in 2013. He also pitched some good games this year for the Astros. You have to trade good players to get good players.

I understand the axiom about trades. If he had pitched closer to 1.95 than 4+  he may still be in Houston. I would rather have him than the returns on the trade. We'll see how it goes and hoping for the best.

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« Reply #153 on: August 31, 2014, 03:09:52 pm »
I didn't think he had it in him but Jordan Schafer has performed well since joining the Twins on a waiver claim, batting .328 (21-for-64) with 10 stolen bases since August 5 and is on an eight-game hitting streak as well.
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« Reply #154 on: August 31, 2014, 06:09:32 pm »
Cosart, IMO, has that "something" that is going to make him a good to great player.  I hope the Astros don't regret trading him too much.
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« Reply #155 on: August 31, 2014, 07:02:14 pm »
An overweening sense if self importance?
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« Reply #156 on: August 31, 2014, 09:04:23 pm »
Cosart, IMO, has that "something" that is going to make him a good to great player.  I hope the Astros don't regret trading him too much.

More and more I am thinking he was dealt due to non-baseball reasons.

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« Reply #157 on: September 01, 2014, 07:50:39 am »
Jerome Williams has some how inexplicably won three games in a row.
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« Reply #158 on: September 01, 2014, 09:49:40 am »
Jerome Williams has some how inexplicably won three games in a row.

Because now he pitches in the lame National League.  Explains Cosart too.
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« Reply #160 on: September 03, 2014, 04:30:18 am »
J.D. Martinez hit a three run bomb in the top of the ninth to best Cleveland 4-2.
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« Reply #161 on: September 03, 2014, 07:43:03 am »
This should really be under the "good day" thread.  One clutch blast. 

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« Reply #162 on: September 03, 2014, 07:49:29 am »
Troy Patton defrocked by the Franciscan Friars.

Patton had come off the 60 day DL after a pretty successful rehab stint in the minors.  His shoulder is what put him on the DL.  He saw Dr. Andrews about it and they recommended rest.  He has already had surgery on it once.  I bet the Pads are cutting ties due to injury risk.  Because he is a lefty, someone will pick him up and give him a look in spring training. 
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« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2014, 10:24:43 am »
Angels DFA J.P. Shuck.
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« Reply #164 on: September 03, 2014, 04:51:55 pm »
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« Reply #165 on: September 11, 2014, 09:06:49 pm »
I'm glad Hunter Pence is where he is, and I'm not sure he would have ever been properly appreciated as an Astro:

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« Reply #166 on: September 11, 2014, 09:49:29 pm »
I'm glad Hunter Pence is where he is, and I'm not sure he would have ever been properly appreciated as an Astro:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/hunter-pence-throws-bat-at-ball--gets-an-rbi-single-up-the-middle--video-203610816.html

I always thought he was pretty much a fan favorite while in Houston. Remember he hit the fowl pole because the people of Houston have to eat.

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« Reply #167 on: September 12, 2014, 05:38:20 pm »
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« Reply #168 on: September 12, 2014, 05:55:01 pm »
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« Reply #169 on: September 20, 2014, 07:34:27 pm »
Jerome Williams throws 7 shutout innings today and lowers ERA as a Phil to 2.45. He also makes history as the first pitcher to beat a single team (in this case, Oakland) three different times in a single season while with three different teams.

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« Reply #170 on: October 06, 2014, 08:57:19 am »
Pretty good post season for J. D. Martinez - 3 for 12 with a double and 2 HR / 5 RBI.  Did have 4 K's. 

In other news, Troy Patton elected for Free agency. Anyone interested in a lefty reliever who has had shoulder surgery in the past and visited Dr. Andrews with shoulder issues this season and was on the 60 day DL? 
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« Reply #171 on: October 06, 2014, 11:01:28 am »
Pretty good post season for J. D. Martinez - 3 for 12 with a double and 2 HR / 5 RBI.  Did have 4 K's. 

In other news, Troy Patton elected for Free agency. Anyone interested in a lefty reliever who has had shoulder surgery in the past and visited Dr. Andrews with shoulder issues this season and was on the 60 day DL? 

Sounds perfect.
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« Reply #172 on: October 06, 2014, 12:46:43 pm »
Anyone interested in a lefty reliever who has had shoulder surgery in the past and visited Dr. Andrews with shoulder issues this season and was on the 60 day DL? 
The rest is just details. Plenty of teams will be interested.
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« Reply #173 on: November 05, 2014, 05:31:47 pm »

In other news, Troy Patton elected for Free agency. Anyone interested in a lefty reliever who has had shoulder surgery in the past and visited Dr. Andrews with shoulder issues this season and was on the 60 day DL? 

And who now has been suspended 80 games for amphetamine use?

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« Reply #174 on: November 06, 2014, 06:13:02 pm »
Just noticed this, but Tim Bogar named special (as opposed to just plain 'ol) assistant to GM in Anaheim.