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« on: March 10, 2014, 01:24:07 pm »
 LHP Luis Cruz, RHP David Martinez, OF Domingo Santana and C Max Stassi. A bit surprising that Stassi got sent down so early.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 01:42:03 pm »
Stassi was going to get sent down once a certain number of pitchers did.  I guess they reached that magic number.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2014, 09:36:19 am »
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2014, 10:09:36 am »
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2014, 03:42:12 pm »
Wallace I wish you the best of luck .
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 01:40:13 pm »
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The Astros trimmed their Spring Training roster by five players Sunday, optioning left-hander pitcher Rudy Owens and right-handers Jose Cisnero, Collin McHugh and Chia-Jen Lo, and reassigning catcher Tyler Heineman to Minor League camp.

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 01:48:51 pm »
A bit surprised to see Lo cut so early... Crain won't be healthy until late April at least, so I'd guess the likely guys are:

Qualls
Albers
Chapman
Fields
Zeid or Bass
Valdes or Downs

with the 7th being a long/swing type, Harrell/Keuchel/Williams?

What's the deal with Alex White, I thought he was healthy?
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 02:29:01 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on March 16, 2014, 01:48:51 pm
A bit surprised to see Lo cut so early... Crain won't be healthy until late April at least, so I'd guess the likely guys are:

Qualls
Albers
Chapman
Fields
Zeid or Bass
Valdes or Downs

with the 7th being a long/swing type, Harrell/Keuchel/Williams?

What's the deal with Alex White, I thought he was healthy?

Who are you giving the rotation spot to? I think Keuchel has nailed his down this spring.

White has been throwing but I don't think he's been in a game yet...could be wrong but I'm sure he'll start out a little later in the minors.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 05:28:17 pm »
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Who are you giving the rotation spot to? I think Keuchel has nailed his down this spring.

White has been throwing but I don't think he's been in a game yet...could be wrong but I'm sure he'll start out a little later in the minors.
Keuchel has had great results this spring, for sure, but that won't be all they go on... I'm guessing they start the year with

Feldman
Cosart
Oberholtzer
Peacock
Williams

Not that Williams excites me at all but I don't see why they signed him unless they felt they needed another starter. The other 3 young guys all have considerably more upside than Keuchel, and showed a lot more last season. I do root for Keuchel, though.

I wonder how many of these guys are still in the rotation by late 2015. I'm guessing either Cosart and/or Peacock get moved to late relief by then; Feldman presumably is safe unless he really tails off, but everyone else is at serious risk of being pushed out by some combo of Appel/Rodon/Folty/Wojo over the next 4-16 months.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 08:18:08 pm »
And a couple of more today:

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The Astros reassigned relievers Rhiner Cruz and Jorge De Leon back to minor-league camp Sunday afternoon.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 10:12:39 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on March 16, 2014, 05:28:17 pm
I wonder how many of these guys are still in the rotation by late 2015. I'm guessing either Cosart and/or Peacock get moved to late relief by then; Feldman presumably is safe unless he really tails off, but everyone else is at serious risk of being pushed out by some combo of Appel/Rodon/Folty/Wojo over the next 4-16 months.

And Velazquez and McCullers not far behind.  Honestly, the only real thing I want to get out of this season is a television contract.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 05:43:39 am »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on March 16, 2014, 08:18:08 pm
And a couple of more today:


Rhiner Cruz has a plus arm, but he suffers from minus command.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 11:14:19 am »
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Rhiner Cruz has a plus arm, but he suffers from minus command.
He throws split-fingered anarchy.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 10:19:50 pm »
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He throws split-fingered anarchy.

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 12:04:31 pm »
No surprises among this morning's cuts (per tweets):

Springer, Foltynewicz, Singleton, DeShields, Correa and Appel.

(BTW, Correa's hand is NOT broken.)
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2014, 01:30:54 pm »
much in the same vein if a tree falls in the woods would someone hear?
well if the astros cut everyone they should would there be enough for a team?
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2014, 02:16:23 pm »
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One less tree somewhere I suppose.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2014, 07:14:51 pm »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on March 20, 2014, 12:04:31 pm
(BTW, Correa's hand is NOT broken.)

I've been out of touch for a while. Did he get hit by a pitch?
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2014, 09:17:31 pm »
Quote from: austro on March 20, 2014, 07:14:51 pm
I've been out of touch for a while. Did he get hit by a pitch?

Yesterday--he was immediately removed from the game but the X-rays done this morning were negative.
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2014, 10:32:06 am »
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2014, 05:49:02 pm »
An injury may further reduce the pitching ranks in camp as Peter Moylan has a torn UCL.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2014, 08:15:50 am »
Pitcture is becoming even clearer, as Downs is optioned and Amador and Petit are reassigned to minor-league camp. Also, a farewell to JD Martinez, who has been released by the club. If Carter is primarily the DH, 1B is now down to Krauss and Guzman, though they bringing in someone from the outside still is a possibility.
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2014, 08:25:47 am »
Has anyone seen a list of possible 1b?  I know we missed out on Morse.
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2014, 01:06:57 pm »
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Pitcture is becoming even clearer, as Downs is optioned and Amador and Petit are reassigned to minor-league camp. Also, a farewell to JD Martinez, who has been released by the club. If Carter is primarily the DH, 1B is now down to Krauss and Guzman, though they bringing in someone from the outside still is a possibility.

I can't imagine the astros going with Guzman on the OD roster.  They have to be looking outside.
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2014, 01:59:39 pm »
Quote from: Uncle Charlie on March 22, 2014, 01:06:57 pm
I can't imagine the astros going with Guzman on the OD roster.  They have to be looking outside.
Why, because he's got a shitty average this spring? That describes almost the entire team.
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2014, 02:37:02 pm »
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Why, because he's got a shitty average this spring? That describes almost the entire team.

In part, but it's more the combination of his performance the last few year and the spring.  Not only is it his overall performance, but also when you look at splits.  I jus think there have got to be better options.
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2014, 03:21:35 pm »
Quote from: Uncle Charlie on March 22, 2014, 02:37:02 pm
In part, but it's more the combination of his performance the last few year and the spring.  Not only is it his overall performance, but also when you look at splits.  I jus think there have got to be better options.
His splits are exactly why I think they'll keep him. For his career, he's done poorly vs. RHP, and at home - home having been the worst park for hitters in the majors, Petco.

But away from Petco, he's hit .272/.331/.453 (only Castro slugged better than .453 last year for the Astros) with a HR every 30 at-bats, and against LHP, he's hit .286/.358/.460.

So they're figuring he might do well in a platoon with Krauss, playing at MMP.

Are there better options available? Maybe, maybe not, but I don't think he's as poor of an option as you think, and particularly if all you're really looking for is a place-holder for Singleton.
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2014, 04:23:23 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on March 22, 2014, 03:21:35 pm

So they're figuring [Guzman] might do well in a platoon with Krauss, playing at MMP.


This looks pretty obvious to me at this point.
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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2014, 02:22:51 pm »
Wallace finds work, signing a minor-league deal with the Orioles.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/orioles-sign-brett-wallace.html
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2014, 02:33:49 pm »
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Wallace finds work, signing a minor-league deal with the Orioles.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/orioles-sign-brett-wallace.html

I'm happy for him. He's a Napa kid who I really thought would make it, but he just can't handle the inside pitch.
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2014, 04:01:16 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on March 22, 2014, 03:21:35 pm
Are there better options available? Maybe, maybe not, but I don't think he's as poor of an option as you think, and particularly if all you're really looking for is a place-holder for Singleton.

We'll just disagree then.  I hope he proves me wrong - it wouldn't be the first time that has happened.
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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2014, 02:35:45 pm »
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In part, but it's more the combination of his performance the last few year and the spring.  Not only is it his overall performance, but also when you look at splits.  I jus think there have got to be better options.

Serious question:  Where do card-carrying, hard-core sabermetricians (like the Astros front office) fall on the question of how much value to assign to spring training numbers when crafting an opening day roster?
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2014, 04:25:12 pm »
Quote from: VirtualBob on March 24, 2014, 04:07:56 pm
Good for him. Hope it goes well.
Ditto. I loved his meteoric rise-through-the-minors success story for such a low draft pick. Just to have played as much as he already has in the majors is an accomplishment considering his own drafting org considered him merely roster-filler. It would be great if he could carve out some kind of MLB career.
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2014, 09:59:24 am »
Quote from: BlownRanger on March 24, 2014, 02:35:45 pm
Serious question:  Where do card-carrying, hard-core sabermetricians (like the Astros front office) fall on the question of how much value to assign to spring training numbers when crafting an opening day roster?

I don't recall reading anything about pitching ST numbers correlating to full season numbers at all.  However, there is a small correlation between ST slugging percentage and overall improved regular performance.

That portends good things for Krauss, Grossman, Castro, Marwin, and.....that's it.
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2014, 02:13:53 pm »
Quote from: BlownRanger on March 24, 2014, 02:35:45 pm
Serious question:  Where do card-carrying, hard-core sabermetricians (like the Astros front office) fall on the question of how much value to assign to spring training numbers when crafting an opening day roster?


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/when-spring-training-matters/
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2014, 11:41:14 am »
The team released Peter Moylan.
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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2014, 12:36:22 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on March 27, 2014, 11:41:14 am
The team released Peter Moylan.

I'm disappointed in this.  Not so much the decision to let him go, but that he didn't stay healthy.  I feel like he would have been a good asset in the pen.
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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2014, 01:27:05 pm »
So much for 13 pitchers.
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« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2014, 01:46:38 pm »
Quote from: Jacksonian on March 27, 2014, 01:27:05 pm
So much for 13 pitchers.
They still have 13 on the roster.  I think Moylan was an NRI.
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« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2014, 01:49:35 pm »
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They still have 13 on the roster.  I think Moylan was an NRI.

Not any more. Astros claim OF Alex Presley off waivers from the Twins, DFA LHP Raul Valdes.
https://twitter.com/astros/status/449247255426371584
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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2014, 02:13:12 pm »
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Not any more. Astros claim OF Alex Presley off waivers from the Twins, DFA LHP Raul Valdes.
https://twitter.com/astros/status/449247255426371584

I dig it.  He's like a 28-year old Hoes.
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« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2014, 02:18:22 pm »
Quote from: BUWebguy on March 27, 2014, 01:49:35 pm
Not any more. Astros claim OF Alex Presley off waivers from the Twins, DFA LHP Raul Valdes.
https://twitter.com/astros/status/449247255426371584
Ahhh.  Interesting.
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« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2014, 04:24:05 pm »
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I dig it.  He's like a 28-year old Hoes.
? How so?
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« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2014, 04:49:24 pm »
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? How so?

5-10/190 vs 6-0/190
Both guys can play center but not particularly well, doubles power, good on-base percentages in the minors, good speed but probably couldn't steal 25 in the majors.

Both traded to a shitty AL team for an established vet.

Of course, Hoes could turn into Luis Gonzalez for all I know.
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« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2014, 08:18:08 pm »
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DFA LHP Raul Valdes.

A bit surprised by this...maybe they see him as a tradable asset given the final roster tweaks that are going on?
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