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Au revoir Jake Elmore
« on: November 20, 2013, 02:13:05 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 03:39:15 pm »
Is he the one who played the harmonica?
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 04:16:07 pm »
J.D. Martinez removed from the 40-man and outrighted to AAA.  Ely released.  Astros pick up Ryan Jackson from the Cards.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 04:20:25 pm »
Hey Jake Elmore!  Wanna go thrift shopping?
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 05:39:24 pm »
J.D. Martinez removed from the 40-man and outrighted to AAA.  Ely released.  Astros pick up Ryan Jackson from the Cards.

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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 11:48:45 am »
Domingo Santana, WoJo, and Luis Cruz added to the 40-man.  According to Astros.com, that would put it at 37.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 12:01:20 pm »
And right after I post the former list, McTaggart posts a list of players eligible to be taken.  I'm not going to post the whole list, but here are some players I could see taken:

Carlos Perez, Austin Wates, Jason Stoffel, possibly J.D. Martinez.

http://brianmctaggart.mlblogs.com/2013/11/21/astros-rule-5-draft-eligible-players/

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 12:53:34 pm »
And right after I post the former list, McTaggart posts a list of players eligible to be taken.  I'm not going to post the whole list, but here are some players I could see taken:

Carlos Perez, Austin Wates, Jason Stoffel, possibly J.D. Martinez.

http://brianmctaggart.mlblogs.com/2013/11/21/astros-rule-5-draft-eligible-players/
Buchanan, and maybe Rene Garcia, are possibilities too. WTHB also mentioned Sogard and James Robinson.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 01:24:49 pm »
None of those concern me.

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 02:04:20 pm »
If you get taken in the Rule 5 you must spend the whole season on the 25 man roster.  It is much easier to hide a guy in the bullpen for the season than on the bench.  So I think Jorge DeLeon has the best shot.  He has had MLB time and has the power arm.  Of position players, I think JD Martinez is the most likely to be picked. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 02:05:51 pm »
BA concurs on Perez:

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But given that Houston called up Max Stassi from Double-A and minor league veterans Cody Clark and Matt Pagnozzi late in the 2013 season, it wasn’t too much of a surprise that the Astros left Perez exposed. Perez, who turned 23 last month, is a dependable catcher who moves well behind the plate, blocks well and earns praise for how he handles a pitching staff. His arm is average and he gets rid of the ball quickly, helping him erase an impressive 47 percent of basestealers last year in Triple-A Oklahoma City.

The question scouts have on Perez is his offense. His bat speed is below-average, he has minimal power and his swing can get long. But Perez doesn’t swing and miss much and he controls the strike zone, which helped him hit a respectable .269/.328/.345 with 25 walks and 39 strikeouts in 75 games in Triple-A. If the power develops, he could be an everyday catcher, but he should at least get a chance in a backup role. When Perez originally signed with the Blue Jays out of Venezuela at age 17, Marco Paddy was Toronto’s top scout in Latin America. Paddy now runs the White Sox’s international operations as a special assistant to the general manager, and with Tyler Flowers and Josh Phegley, the organization could look for additional depth. The White Sox have the third pick in the Rule 5 draft (and the Astros are at No. 1), so Perez could go off the board early.

Not really an impressive list they put together, hopefully there are better options available.

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 02:37:35 pm »
If you get taken in the Rule 5 you must spend the whole season on the 25 man roster.  It is much easier to hide a guy in the bullpen for the season than on the bench.  So I think Jorge DeLeon has the best shot.  He has had MLB time and has the power arm.  Of position players, I think JD Martinez is the most likely to be picked. 


I would hate to lose DeLeon. He may never be much but with that arm you like to give him some time. I agree, he is the type that could be taken.

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2013, 05:28:30 pm »
Jiovanni Mier is on the list. Has the team given up on him? I seem to remember him being highly thought of at one time within the organization.
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2013, 05:29:17 pm »
We can also say goodbye to Brandon Laird. Now a Royal on a minor league contract.
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2013, 05:55:09 pm »
Jiovanni Mier is on the list. Has the team given up on him? I seem to remember him being highly thought of at one time within the organization.

He was highly thought of by Ed Wade.
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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2013, 07:19:10 pm »
Jiovanni Mier is on the list. Has the team given up on him? I seem to remember him being highly thought of at one time within the organization.

He has not developed to his expectations offensively and with Correa in the organization, Villar currently at the ML level, he is pretty much an after-thought.
A change may do him good. 

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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2013, 08:21:15 pm »
A change may do him good. 

I doubt it. I don't think his weak showing over the last four years has anything to do with the organization.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2013, 10:40:01 pm »
I doubt it. I don't think his weak showing over the last four years has anything to do with the organization.
Probably not. Nor is there a chance in hell of him being taken in the Rule 5 and spending all season on a MLB roster. So he'll still be Astros property.
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2013, 07:33:17 am »
He has not developed to his expectations offensively and with Correa in the organization, Villar currently at the ML level, he is pretty much an after-thought.
A change may do him good. 

Fontana is in there, as well.  Though he may end up a super-utility player in the long run, he should continue getting time at SS moving up the ladder.  We could start to see a logjam if they promote him or Correa (or both) during the season.   

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Au revoir Jake Elmore
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2013, 09:33:07 am »
With Peralta signing with St. Louis, I wonder if the Astros could get Kozma or Descalso at a reasonable price. It would be nice for them to have a major league shortstop going in to spring training.
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2013, 11:08:32 am »
Jose Martinez goes to the A's, as well.

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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2013, 11:09:21 am »
With Peralta signing with St. Louis, I wonder if the Astros could get Kozma or Descalso at a reasonable price. It would be nice for them to have a major league shortstop going in to spring training.
Wow, so you've given up on Villar already?
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2013, 01:32:34 pm »
With Peralta signing with St. Louis, I wonder if the Astros could get Kozma or Descalso at a reasonable price. It would be nice for them to have a major league shortstop going in to spring training.
I would rather have Villar going in to the spring than either of those. Unless Descalso is coming in for a utility role.
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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2013, 03:50:40 pm »
Villar reminds me of Paredes - lots of raw promise but nowhere near major league ready; especially in the fielding and base running departments. I think that the Astros need a major league shortstop on the roster until (and if) Villar matures and completes his development. Of course they played the entire year in 2013 without a major league shortstop.
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2013, 06:05:09 pm »
Villar reminds me of Paredes - lots of raw promise but nowhere near major league ready; especially in the fielding and base running departments. I think that the Astros need a major league shortstop on the roster until (and if) Villar matures and completes his development. Of course they played the entire year in 2013 without a major league shortstop.
Wow, so you've given up on Marwin already?
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2013, 06:27:16 am »
Villar reminds me of Paredes - lots of raw promise but nowhere near major league ready; especially in the fielding and base running departments. I think that the Astros need a major league shortstop on the roster until (and if) Villar matures and completes his development. Of course they played the entire year in 2013 without a major league shortstop.

Correa will be ready about the same time, or before, Villar matures.

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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2013, 08:12:52 am »
Correa will be ready about the same time, or before, Villar matures.

So you've given up on Andujar Cedeno?
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2013, 08:18:58 am »
So you've given up on Andujar Cedeno?
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2013, 08:39:52 am »
If Bogar could hit we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2013, 09:50:42 am »
If Bogar could hit we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Or Julio Lugo could stop.

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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2013, 10:03:18 am »
Or Julio Lugo could stop.

Roger Metzger might be available.
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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2013, 10:08:08 am »
If Bogar could hit we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Shortstops aren't allowed to hit.  Shortstops who hit aren't really shortstops, they're hitters.
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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2013, 12:51:17 pm »
Or Julio Lugo could stop.
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2013, 09:25:50 pm »
Roger Metzger might be available.
Might be able to get Sonny Jackson at a decent price.
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« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2013, 11:18:18 am »
Might be able to get Sonny Jackson at a decent price.

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