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HudsonHawk · « **on:** October 20, 2013, 02:46:55 pm »

Checking in from Arrowhead. LOT'S of Texans fans here. Hope springs eternal.

chuck · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2013, 02:51:03 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 02:46:55 pm

Checking in from Arrowhead. LOT'S of Texans fans here. Hope springs eternal.

Where are your seats?

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #2 on:** October 20, 2013, 02:55:27 pm »

Have a great time. I hope Keenum does well.

BudGirl · « **Reply #3 on:** October 20, 2013, 03:45:52 pm »

Are you wearing red?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #4 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:50:50 pm »

I'm in the lower bowl of the end zone. The Texans bench is to my right and Hopkins caught that TD right in front of me. I'm wearing blue, as are most of the other Texans fans.

Keenum makes throws Schaub simply can't. The Texans secondary is simply awful. Kubiak is in typical idiot form today. He will get badly out coached at halftime.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:55:11 pm »

Keenum see things Schaub doesn't see.

BudGirl · « **Reply #6 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:56:51 pm »

It will probably be very obvious by the end of the game if Kubiak has any idea how to win. Sucks that Foster got hurt.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:17:28 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on October 20, 2013, 04:56:51 pm

It will probably be very obvious by the end of the game if Kubiak has any idea how to win. Sucks that Foster got hurt.

How does McNair not fire Kubiak in the this game after that horseshitplay calling? How many pictures of McNair and donkeys does Marciano have?

subnuclear · « **Reply #8 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:40:55 pm »

Reverse fake or something.

The Spleen · « **Reply #9 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:55:43 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 20, 2013, 04:55:11 pm

Keenum see things Schaub doesn't see.

He sees dead coaches?

austro · « **Reply #10 on:** October 20, 2013, 05:56:03 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on October 20, 2013, 05:40:55 pm

Reverse fake or something.

Well, it's pretty easy to understand their confusion. There are invisible players everywhere you look, so it's got to be hard to figure out which ones to cover. In fact, this probably explains Kareem Jackson's performance most weeks.

Gizzmonic · « **Reply #11 on:** October 20, 2013, 06:36:49 pm »

Keenum acquitted himself well. Hopefully this will close the book on Schaub's time as a starter.

Kubiak always gives up on possessions at the end of the first half, then seems to change his mind when it's too late.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #12 on:** October 20, 2013, 06:55:45 pm »

Quote from: Gizzmonic on October 20, 2013, 06:36:49 pm

Keenum acquitted himself well. Hopefully this will close the book on Schaub's time as a starter.

Kubiak always gives up on possessions at the end of the first half, then seems to change his mind when it's too late.

Kubiak was absolutely fucking schooled in football today. It's mindboggling how bad of a football coach he is compared to the rest of the league.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #13 on:** October 20, 2013, 07:03:35 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 06:55:45 pm

Kubiak was absolutely fucking schooled in football today. It's mindboggling how bad of a football coach he is compared to the rest of the league.

+1

chuck · « **Reply #14 on:** October 20, 2013, 07:10:27 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 06:55:45 pm

Kubiak was absolutely fucking schooled in football today. It's mindboggling how bad of a football coach he is compared to the rest of the league.

The Texans have no time outs (which is another story) yet Reid throws the ball two or three times that last drive. This is the sort of coach that massively outwits Kubiak. Mull on that for a while.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #15 on:** October 20, 2013, 08:01:44 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 20, 2013, 07:10:27 pm

The Texans have no time outs (which is another story) yet Reid throws the ball two or three times that last drive. This is the sort of coach that massively outwits Kubiak. Mull on that for a while.

Not to mention the coach that's up by 1, fourth and goal and elects to *not* make it a touchdown game. And yet he's Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, Amos Alonzo Stagg and Knute fucking Rockne combined compared to Kubiak.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #16 on:** October 20, 2013, 08:05:01 pm »

On a positive note, Kansas City is a great place to visit for a road game. The Chiefs front office folks were great, the fans were great to us, the stadium is nice for beng of that era. The barbecue was also passable.

hostros7 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2013, 09:11:02 pm »

F kubiak. That stupid motherlover lost the game

chuck · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2013, 09:15:35 pm »

The Colts just finished the half with a perfectly competent and purposeful 2-minute drill that went for a touchdown.

Kubiak takes the ball every time he wins a toss but time and time again is perfectly content to waste final possessions in the first half. If there is a better encapsulation of his being a total motherfucking idiot then I would love to know about it.

chuck · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2013, 09:32:19 pm »

Bob McNair disagrees with the SNS consensus.

austro · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2013, 09:55:23 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 20, 2013, 09:32:19 pm

Bob McNair disagrees with the SNS consensus.

Doesn't sound like it's only the SnS consensus.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2013, 10:05:59 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 20, 2013, 09:32:19 pm

Bob McNair disagrees with the SNS consensus.

Then McNair is the stupidest motherfucker in the history of organized sports. If he's that fucking stupid, he deserves Kubiak and the misery it brings. Anyone who has ever seen a football game, not coached but just watched, knew what KC was doing, but did Kubiak? Never dawned on him. Even the Chiefs fans "why don't the Texans keep someone in the backfield for pass protection? Is this Derek Newton's first game? If you guys never fielded a kick, you'd start with better field position..."

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #22 on:** October 21, 2013, 05:39:18 am »

Who makes the decision to only activate 2 running backs?

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #23 on:** October 21, 2013, 06:24:06 am »

He's the anti-Jerry Jones.

drew corleone · « **Reply #24 on:** October 21, 2013, 10:06:43 am »

Did you tailgate with the Mojo crew?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** October 21, 2013, 10:24:49 am »

Quote from: drew corleone on October 21, 2013, 10:06:43 am

Did you tailgate with the Mojo crew?

Don't know the Mojo Crew. We tailgated with the Traveling Texans. There were about 500 in our group I'd guess, but the Chiefs guy who helped organize said there were about 1,500 "organized" Texans fans. I'd guess there were probably 2,000 at least, counting the ones who were on their own. The KC Live party downtown Saturday night was probably 90% Texans fans.

drew corleone · « **Reply #26 on:** October 21, 2013, 11:09:07 am »

Gotcha. A guy I tailgate with for UT games runs his own Texans Mojo tailgate and I saw they were up in KC with what seemed to be a ton of Texans fans. He's a big dude named Pat, who likes to shotgun Miller Lite.

hostros7 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 21, 2013, 02:36:22 pm »

The Texans cut Sam Montgomery, Willie Jefferson, and Cierre Wood for violating team rules at the hotel in KC. I bet Marciano was the hall monitor.

austro · « **Reply #28 on:** October 21, 2013, 07:03:59 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on October 21, 2013, 02:36:22 pm

The Texans cut Sam Montgomery, Willie Jefferson, and Cierre Wood for violating team rules at the hotel in KC. I bet Marciano was the hall monitor.

There's our answer. Somehow we need to tempt/trick Kubiak into violating team rules.

cougar · « **Reply #29 on:** October 21, 2013, 08:36:40 pm »

Quote from: austro on October 21, 2013, 07:03:59 pm

There's our answer. Somehow we need to tempt/trick Kubiak into violating team rules.

Assuming the Texans ever win a game again, hand him a victory cigar. That's apparently enough to get the boot.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #30 on:** October 21, 2013, 10:29:46 pm »

Quote from: cougar on October 21, 2013, 08:36:40 pm

Assuming the Texans ever win a game again, hand him a victory cigar. That's apparently enough to get the boot.

Riiiight...because when three known potheads tell you they had all snuck out after curfew and gathered in a hotel bathroom to just smoke some Black and Milds, there's no reason to doubt their explanation. At least none of them fell asleep in the drive thru at Jack In The Box. Again.

strosrays · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2013, 10:54:54 pm »

Quote from: drew corleone on October 21, 2013, 11:09:07 am

He's a big dude named Pat, who likes to shotgun Miller Lite.

Appreciate the descriptiveness, but that doesn't really narrow things down much.

MusicMan · « **Reply #32 on:** October 22, 2013, 09:17:57 am »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 21, 2013, 10:29:46 pm

Riiiight...because when three known potheads tell you they had all snuck out after curfew and gathered in a hotel bathroom to just smoke some Black and Milds, there's no reason to doubt their explanation. At least none of them fell asleep in the drive thru at Jack In The Box. Again.

In a world where there were any accountability, Rick Smith would now be on the chopping block. Montgomery was an asinine draft pick - a known "character issue" who didn't fit the Texans' defense, either.

(Forgot to mention the 6th-rounder that the Texans decided to draft, cut, and is now wrecking shit for the Patriots.)

Limey · « **Reply #33 on:** October 22, 2013, 10:06:23 am »

Quote from: Gizzmonic on October 20, 2013, 06:36:49 pm

Keenum acquitted himself well. Hopefully this will close the book on Schaub's time as a starter.

Mrs Limey heard on the news that Kubiak is planning to start Schaub again after the bye week.

I didn't see much of the game, but Keenum look infinitely more poised and comfortable out there than Schaub. He looked like he was playing catch. He also knew where the pocket was, where the pressure was coming from* and was able to move around to buy time for a receiver to get open. It was like nothing we've ever seen from a Texans' QB.

And Kubiak wants to put the cowardly statue back in.

* This was assuming there was some effort at pass protection. They seemed to give up on this aspect of the game in the 4th quarter. Anyone else think that Kubes was trying to make Keenum look bad so that he can justify putting his buddy back in?

MusicMan · « **Reply #34 on:** October 22, 2013, 10:21:14 am »

Quote from: Limey on October 22, 2013, 10:06:23 am

* This was assuming there was some effort at pass protection. They seemed to give up on this aspect of the game in the 4th quarter. Anyone else think that Kubes was trying to make Keenum look bad so that he can justify putting his buddy back in?

No, the Chiefs figured out that Keenum wasn't making hot reads, so they overloaded the line. I'll give ubiak the benefit of the doubt and say that he was in a bind, as he couldn't keep an RB in to block as Tate was playing with broken ribs.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #35 on:** October 22, 2013, 10:24:51 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 22, 2013, 10:21:14 am

No, the Chiefs figured out that Keenum wasn't making hot reads, so they overloaded the line. I'll give ubiak the benefit of the doubt and say that he was in a bind, as he couldn't keep an RB in to block as Tate was playing with broken ribs.

The fullback can't block?

MusicMan · « **Reply #36 on:** October 22, 2013, 10:33:47 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on October 22, 2013, 10:24:51 am

The fullback can't block?

Would they have any packages where Jones had practiced in the RB spot?

hostros7 · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2013, 10:41:12 am »

It's important to note that the Texans were 2-3 and getting their teeth kicked in at home against the lowly Rams before Schaub, Manning, Daniels, Cushing, Foster and Tate were injured. We should all remember this when McNair waffles at the end of the year and said that Kubes got the team to play so hard and battlefight despite all the injuries and adversity.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2013, 01:01:29 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 22, 2013, 10:21:14 am

No, the Chiefs figured out that Keenum wasn't making hot reads, so they overloaded the line. I'll give ubiak the benefit of the doubt and say that he was in a bind, as he couldn't keep an RB in to block as Tate was playing with broken ribs.

I don't. He had guys to block. If nothing else, he could have kept a TE in to block. He simply didn't recognize what was going on or didn't have any idea how to fix it.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #39 on:** October 22, 2013, 01:03:35 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 22, 2013, 10:06:23 am

Mrs Limey heard on the news that Kubiak is planning to start Schaub again after the bye week.

I didn't see much of the game, but Keenum look infinitely more poised and comfortable out there than Schaub. He looked like he was playing catch. He also knew where the pocket was, where the pressure was coming from* and was able to move around to buy time for a receiver to get open. It was like nothing we've ever seen from a Texans' QB.

And Kubiak wants to put the cowardly statue back in.

When asked directly, Kubiak said "Matt's our starting QB, but we'll continue to evaluate our options". All the talking heads agreed that it was just coachspeak, and there is no way in hell he sticks Schaub back out there against Indy, unless something with Keenum goes to shit.

Limey · « **Reply #40 on:** October 22, 2013, 01:19:20 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 01:03:35 pm

When asked directly, Kubiak said "Matt's our starting QB, but we'll continue to evaluate our options". All the talking heads agreed that it was just coachspeak, and there is no way in hell he sticks Schaub back out there against Indy, unless something with Keenum goes to shit.

You have more faith in him than me.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** October 22, 2013, 01:43:13 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 22, 2013, 01:19:20 pm

You have more faith in him than me.

Oh I don't have any faith in Kubiak. I'm just repeating the general interpretation of his remarks.

And I have tremendous faith in you.

Ebby Calvin · « **Reply #42 on:** October 22, 2013, 01:57:27 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 01:43:13 pm

Oh I don't have any faith in Kubiak.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Bench · « **Reply #43 on:** October 22, 2013, 02:02:00 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 01:43:13 pm

Oh I don't have any faith in Kubiak.

I have plenty of faith in Kubiak to keep doing what he's always been doing.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #44 on:** October 22, 2013, 02:11:45 pm »

Quote from: Ebby Calvin on October 22, 2013, 01:57:27 pm

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

What...I said I have tremendous faith in Limey. At least he was able to recognize "they're hitting our QB because we can't seem to get them blocked" and reasoned "we should probably try more blockers". Kubiak never thought on that level.

Ebby Calvin · « **Reply #45 on:** October 22, 2013, 02:21:42 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 02:11:45 pm

What...I said I have tremendous faith in Limey. At least he was able to recognize "they're hitting our QB because we can't seem to get them blocked" and reasoned "we should probably try more blockers". Kubiak never thought on that level.

Should've linked it.

Limey · « **Reply #46 on:** October 22, 2013, 03:03:21 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 02:11:45 pm

What...I said I have tremendous faith in Limey. At least he was able to recognize "they're hitting our QB because we can't seem to get them blocked" and reasoned "we should probably try more blockers". Kubiak never thought on that level.

I think "not blocking" doesn't come close to describing the gaping holes in the O-Line that I saw. Hali, in particular, seemed to be invisible to them.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #47 on:** October 22, 2013, 03:38:35 pm »

If Kubiak runs Schaub out there vs Indy, Matt is going to get booed relentlessly for every incompletion.

BudGirl · « **Reply #48 on:** October 22, 2013, 03:42:37 pm »

While I prefer Keenum to Schaub, there is no way Kubiak isn't going to start Schaub if he is healthy. He is technically your #1 QB.

Limey · « **Reply #49 on:** October 22, 2013, 03:47:35 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on October 22, 2013, 03:38:35 pm

If Kubiak runs Schaub out there vs Indy, Matt is going to get booed relentlessly for every incompletion.

I am torn between wanting to see more of Keenum (NTTAWWT) and thinking that, by persisting with Schaub and drawing the ire of the crowd, Kubiak will be booking his ticket out of town.

chuck · « **Reply #50 on:** October 22, 2013, 03:49:15 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on October 22, 2013, 03:38:35 pm

If Kubiak runs Schaub out there vs Indy, Matt is going to get booed relentlessly for every incompletion.

I imagine Robert Mathis will take care of that unpleasantness in relatively short order.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #51 on:** October 22, 2013, 03:56:49 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on October 22, 2013, 03:42:37 pm

While I prefer Keenum to Schaub, there is no way Kubiak isn't going to start Schaub if he is healthy. He is technically your #1 QB.

Sure there is, he even gave himself some wiggle room with his statements on Monday.

MusicMan · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:06:25 am »

It appears that Kubiak's stupidity continues to know no bounds.

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 10m
Sources: #Texans QB Matt Schaub has torn ankle ligaments that he’ll be attempting to play through. He may not be “right” all season.

MusicMan · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:38:17 am »

Nope... bullet, dodged.

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Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 57s
Case Keenum will start on Sunday.

Bench · « **Reply #54 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:49:46 am »

"Matt's health is fine. It's a decision based on what I saw take place last week with Case." Kubiak on QB decision

That must have been difficult for him.

Limey · « **Reply #55 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:05:02 pm »

Quote from: Bench on October 28, 2013, 11:49:46 am

"Matt's health is fine. It's a decision based on what I saw take place last week with Case." Kubiak on QB decision

That must have been difficult for him.

Per the Lackey Rag:

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“(Schaub) is obviously disappointed,” Kubiak said. “I wouldn’t expect anything else.
“I know it’s very difficult on him. It’s very difficult on me, too.”

I presume they hugged. Maybe shed some tears.

Bench · « **Reply #56 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:12:38 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:05:02 pm

Per the Lackey Rag:

I presume they hugged. Maybe shed some tears.

It's pretty much the ending to Old Yeller.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #57 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:17:28 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:05:02 pm

Per the Lackey Rag:

I presume they hugged. Maybe shed some tears.

Something is not adding up with the info being shared by Kubiak. I was told by someone close to the situation that I trust and has been spot on accurate about many things that Schaub is hurt and likely has played his last down of football for the Texans. Also, my wife's best friend (i know, I know 31 flavors...it's very serious...blah..blah) saw Matt and his wife at Aria in Vegas two nights last week, which seems odd to me.

Limey · « **Reply #58 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:18:10 pm »

Quote from: Bench on October 28, 2013, 01:12:38 pm

It's pretty much the ending to Old Yeller.

I saw somewhere (maybe in here) that there's a way to cut him after June 2014 and save some money. He'll end up on another team, as a backup, in the same way that the Top Gear guys always have a backup car in the form of a VW Beetle or a Morris Marina.

Randy Watson · « **Reply #59 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:26:18 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:18:10 pm

I saw somewhere (maybe in here) that there's a way to cut him after June 2014 and save some money. He'll end up on another team, as a backup, in the same way that the Top Gear guys always have a backup car in the form of a VW Beetle or a Morris Marina.

His salary is $14.5 million for 2014.

If we cut him before June 1, 2014, there is a $10 million dollar cap hit for 2014. So that means by cutting him prior to June 1, you have an extra $4.5 million.

If we cut him after June 1, there is a $4 million cap hit for 2014 and a $6 million cap hit for 2015. So you have an extra $10 million for 2014.

I think they cut him prior to June 1 and just take all the medicine in 2014. If Case is good enough, the cap won't be an issue because we can apply the $4.5 million in savings to address other needs.

Limey · « **Reply #60 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:35:53 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on October 28, 2013, 01:17:28 pm

Something is not adding up with the info being shared by Kubiak. I was told by someone close to the situation that I trust and has been spot on accurate about many things that Schaub is hurt and likely has played his last down of football for the Texans. Also, my wife's best friend (i know, I know 31 flavors...it's very serious...blah..blah) saw Matt and his wife at Aria in Vegas two nights last week, which seems odd to me.

He went to put $100 on black, missed and hit red.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #61 on:** October 28, 2013, 01:41:18 pm »

Quote from: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:18:10 pm

I saw somewhere (maybe in here) that there's a way to cut him after June 2014 and save some money. He'll end up on another team, as a backup, in the same way that the Top Gear guys always have a backup car in the form of a VW Beetle or a Morris Marina.

Why would Schaub being in Vegas during his week off seem odd to you?