Author Topic: Game Over, Season Over (Read 5671 times)

Navin R Johnson · « **on:** September 29, 2013, 05:29:00 pm »

Astros set the all-time MLB strikeout record after K-ing 19 times today. They finish the season with 1535, 6 Ks ahead of the 2010 Dbacks MLB record, and 148 Ks ahead of the all-time AL record.

They also end the season on a 15 game losing streak, the longest such streak since the 1899 Cleveland Spiders. The Spiders folded at the end of the 1899 season, a season in which they went 20-132. That ranks as the the worst record in MLB history.

remy · « **Reply #1 on:** September 29, 2013, 05:40:12 pm »

Meanwhile, in Miami...

Fredia · « **Reply #2 on:** September 29, 2013, 06:07:37 pm »

sigh i miss baseball

johnstros · « **Reply #3 on:** September 29, 2013, 06:07:45 pm »

That AL K stat is shocking.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #4 on:** September 29, 2013, 10:10:50 pm »

It couldn't end soon enough. I've loved baseball all my life. I still play plenty of denial league ball....but this is the first year that I lost interest in the major league club. If Crane and Lunhow don't care about winning at that level, why should I care about following them. To be clear, it's not that they weren't winning, it's that ownership didn't really seem to care if they did. They focused on the minors and so did I. It's the only thing that got me through as a fan this year. That said, I fear the same thing will happen next year.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2013, 06:45:00 am »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on September 29, 2013, 10:10:50 pm

It couldn't end soon enough. I've loved baseball all my life. I still play plenty of denial league ball....but this is the first year that I lost interest in the major league club. If Crane and Lunhow don't care about winning at that level, why should I care about following them. To be clear, it's not that they weren't winning, it's that ownership didn't really seem to care if they did. They focused on the minors and so did I. It's the only thing that got me through as a fan this year. That said, I fear the same thing will happen next year.

+1

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2013, 07:45:32 am »

Quote from: Uncle Charlie on September 29, 2013, 10:10:50 pm

It couldn't end soon enough. I've loved baseball all my life. I still play plenty of denial league ball....but this is the first year that I lost interest in the major league club. If Crane and Lunhow don't care about winning at that level, why should I care about following them. To be clear, it's not that they weren't winning, it's that ownership didn't really seem to care if they did. They focused on the minors and so did I. It's the only thing that got me through as a fan this year. That said, I fear the same thing will happen next year.

+1 But I followed the big league club far more than the minor league affiliate teams. Your point is valid. They've got to address the inadequacy at the big league club during this off-season, or the fan base is going to erode to the depths not ever experienced in Houston.

geezerdonk · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2013, 01:42:41 pm »

On all sides round horror spread wide.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2013, 02:11:44 pm »

McBraggart tweets next year Crane will spend on the team and that the games will be on TV.

NeilT · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2013, 02:18:21 pm »

Thank goodness we have Texans football to fill the void.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2013, 02:41:08 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on September 30, 2013, 02:11:44 pm

McBraggart tweets next year Crane will spend on the team and that the games will be on TV.

Well then, it must be so.

Limey · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2013, 02:46:57 pm »

Quote from: johnstros on September 29, 2013, 06:07:45 pm

That AL K stat is shocking.

Worse. They broke the MLB record, while using a DH.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2013, 02:59:41 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on September 30, 2013, 02:11:44 pm

McBraggart tweets next year Crane will spend on the team and that the games will be on TV.

I'll believe it when I see it. I need visible signs.

Fredia · « **Reply #13 on:** September 30, 2013, 03:00:54 pm »

other than those blocking the view of the train?

johnstros · « **Reply #14 on:** September 30, 2013, 03:37:01 pm »

Quote from: Limey on September 30, 2013, 02:46:57 pm

Worse. They broke the MLB record, while using a DH.

No doubt about that. I just didn't know that the team obliterated the AL record.

SoonerJim · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2013, 04:30:11 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on September 30, 2013, 02:59:41 pm

I'll believe it when I see it. I need visible signs.

By himself, how many wins is George Springer worth? Singleton didn't exactly light up AAA, so Springer is the only quality addtion at this point. Another consecutive100-loss season ties the 62-65 Mets.

Limey · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2013, 04:37:48 pm »

Quote from: johnstros on September 30, 2013, 03:37:01 pm

No doubt about that. I just didn't know that the team obliterated the AL record.

AL record was lower - most likely due to not having a pitcher bat. They broke the NL/MLB record with their 14th K on the last day.

subnuclear · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2013, 04:54:54 pm »

Quote from: SoonerJim on September 30, 2013, 04:30:11 pm

By himself, how many wins is George Springer worth? Singleton didn't exactly light up AAA, so Springer is the only quality addtion at this point. Another consecutive100-loss season ties the 62-65 Mets.

Probably like 5. There is a big weakness at the LF/1B/DH. They could could add one free agent and Springer and be 7-9 games better. Improvement in the bullpen would be another 5 games. That keeps you from a 100-loss season.

Lefty · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2013, 08:16:21 pm »

http://youtu.be/dsx2vdn7gpY

Jacksonian · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2013, 12:49:23 pm »

Quote from: subnuclear on September 30, 2013, 04:54:54 pm

Probably like 5. There is a big weakness at the LF/1B/DH. They could could add one free agent and Springer and be 7-9 games better. Improvement in the bullpen would be another 5 games. That keeps you from a 100-loss season.

Disagree on LF. I thought Grossman made significant strides before being injured. I expect him in LF, Springer in CF, and Hoes in RF to start the season.

subnuclear · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2013, 12:54:52 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on October 01, 2013, 12:49:23 pm

Disagree on LF. I thought Grossman made significant strides before being injured. I expect him in LF, Springer in CF, and Hoes in RF to start the season.

I like Grossman, too, but in my mind had him as a CF'er. You are probably right.

rpntex · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2013, 12:35:25 pm »

Quote from: Jacksonian on October 01, 2013, 12:49:23 pm

Disagree on LF. I thought Grossman made significant strides before being injured. I expect him in LF, Springer in CF, and Hoes in RF to start the season.

My thoughts exactly. I want to see Grossman a shot at a more everyday role. My question with Hoes is arm-related. I like his bat, and think he'll get better, but does he have the kind of arm you want in RF? That's the main reason I'm intrigued with the thought of Francouer (sp) as a FA signing. He didn't hit for crap this year, but he' shown he can.

David in Jackson · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2013, 01:03:28 pm »

Hoes and Grossman strike me as very similar players - in the lineup at the same time you get very little power from two corner OF positions.

GreatBagwellsBeard · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2013, 02:27:22 pm »

Quote from: David in Jackson on October 04, 2013, 01:03:28 pm

Hoes and Grossman strike me as very similar players - in the lineup at the same time you get very little power from two corner OF positions.

Agreed. If they're going to gamble on a short-term free agent, a run producing corner OF would be valuable.

JimR · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:08:00 pm »

Quote from: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 04, 2013, 02:27:22 pm

Agreed. If they're going to gamble on a short-term free agent, a run producing corner OF would be valuable.

Carlos Lee?

geezerdonk · « **Reply #25 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:51:37 pm »

Martinez. Since they are going nowhere next year, stick him in LF/DH and give him 550 PAs and see what he can do. I think that he has a chance to be a top run producer

NeilT · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2013, 04:06:25 pm »

Quote from: geezerdonk on October 04, 2013, 03:51:37 pm

Martinez. Since they are going nowhere next year, stick him in LF/DH and give him 550 PAs and see what he can do. I think that he has a chance to be a top run producer

Wasn't that the plan this year?