Author Topic: RIP GJ (Read 5208 times)

Duke · « **on:** April 26, 2013, 02:39:18 pm »

George Jones dead at 81

Ron Brand · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2013, 02:47:52 pm »

Greatest country singer of all.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2013, 02:59:58 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on April 26, 2013, 02:47:52 pm

Greatest country singer of all.

Agreed. George Jones will forever be one of my personal favorites. Legend has it that one night Tammy Wynette thought that George had had a few drinks too many, hid all of the car keys but forgot about the tractor or lawn mower, and that's what George took to the bar.

Fredia · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2013, 03:15:25 pm »

all the great ones are slowly fading away

chuck · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2013, 03:15:48 pm »

How he lived to be 81 I will never know.

The job of Greatest Living Country Singer is now available. Who is it now? Whoever it is is nowhere near George Jones, I can tell you that. Ray Price?

BudGirl · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2013, 03:28:01 pm »

Charley Pride

juliogotay · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2013, 03:29:25 pm »

Merle?

JimR · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2013, 03:29:26 pm »

Willie Nelson

Duman · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2013, 04:03:41 pm »

Been listening to old George Jones today and was reminded of a great documentary done in the early 90's Rhythm Country & Blues - has some great duets with Country & R&B artist. BB King & George do Patches. Pretty good stuff.

Duke · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2013, 04:10:37 pm »

Quote from: JimR on April 26, 2013, 03:29:26 pm

Willie Nelson

+1

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2013, 04:17:22 pm »

I'm sure chuck will crucify me for this, but the greatest country singer to come out in the last 30 years is George Strait.

chuck · « **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2013, 04:45:21 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 26, 2013, 04:17:22 pm

I'm sure chuck will crucify me for this, but the greatest country singer to come out in the last 30 years is George Strait.

Wearing boots, Wranglers and a hat does not in my view make someone a country singer. George Strait is no more a country singer than Johnny Mathis is.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:00:12 pm »

Quote from: chuck on April 26, 2013, 04:45:21 pm

Wearing boots, Wranglers and a hat does not in my view make someone a country singer. George Strait is no more a country singer than Johnny Mathis is.

It doesn't in my view either. But then again neither does getting drunk.

BudGirl · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:00:23 pm »

Quote from: chuck on April 26, 2013, 04:45:21 pm

Wearing boots, Wranglers and a hat does not in my view make someone a country singer. George Strait is no more a country singer than Johnny Mathis is.

Said one person.

BudGirl · « **Reply #14 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:00:37 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 26, 2013, 05:00:12 pm

It doesn't in my view either. But then again neither does getting drunk.

or smoking pot.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #15 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:15:18 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on April 26, 2013, 05:00:37 pm

or smoking pot.

I'd say who my personal favorite country singer is, but it might send chuck into a blind rage.

chuck · « **Reply #16 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:30:00 pm »

Quote from: BudGirl on April 26, 2013, 05:00:37 pm

or smoking pot.

You know, I don't think of Willie as a country singer, either, although I don't fault anyone who does.

I'm trying to guess Hudson's favorite country singer. I know his favorite record is Glee: The Music, Volume 4. So... I don't know, Kenny Chesney?

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #17 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:33:01 pm »

Quote from: chuck on April 26, 2013, 05:30:00 pm

You know, I don't think of Willie as a country singer, either, although I don't fault anyone who does.

I'm trying to guess Hudson's favorite country singer. I know his favorite record is Glee: The Music, Volume 4. So... I don't know, Kenny Chesney?

Cute.

If you promise to cuddle me afterwards....Don Williams.

chuck · « **Reply #18 on:** April 26, 2013, 05:39:22 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 26, 2013, 05:33:01 pm

Cute.

If you promise to cuddle me afterwards....Don Williams.

Anyone who's OK by Ronnie Lane is OK by me.

NeilT · « **Reply #19 on:** April 26, 2013, 06:44:30 pm »

Emmylou Harris is the greatest living country singer.

austro · « **Reply #20 on:** April 26, 2013, 07:16:45 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 26, 2013, 06:44:30 pm

Emmylou Harris is the greatest living country singer.

That's some outside-the-box thinking, but I could agree with it.

Bench · « **Reply #21 on:** April 26, 2013, 07:17:44 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 26, 2013, 06:44:30 pm

Emmylou Harris is the greatest living country singer.

I can get on board with this.

I also agree that Willie is not a country singer.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #22 on:** April 26, 2013, 08:19:25 pm »

Dammit. I'm gonna miss the ol' Possum. Don Williams, is wonderful,so is Wille, but Ray Price is a singer. My all time favorite country singers are Faron Young and Marty Robbins.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #23 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:36:40 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 26, 2013, 08:19:25 pm

Dammit. I'm gonna miss the ol' Possum. Don Williams, is wonderful,so is Wille, but Ray Price is a singer. My all time favorite country singers are Faron Young and Marty Robbins.

My all-time favorite country music singer is Ernest Tubb. Possum Eyes was a classic. I listened to She Thinks I Still Care and He Stopped Loving Her Today in his honor.

juliogotay · « **Reply #24 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:56:34 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on April 26, 2013, 09:36:40 pm

My all-time favorite country music singer is Ernest Tubb. Possum Eyes was a classic. I listened to She Thinks I Still Care and He Stopped Loving Her Today in his honor.

I think Ernest Tubb may be Willie Nelson's favorite singer. Even though he isn't a country singer.

chuck · « **Reply #25 on:** April 26, 2013, 11:17:06 pm »

I can't believe no one has offered Hank Williams as their favorite country singer. So I will. As far as I'm concerned the only other figure in the history American popular music who is anywhere close to Hank Williams as a songwriter and a singer is Smokey Robinson.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #26 on:** April 27, 2013, 08:02:48 am »

It's also interesting to note that early George Jones records are slavish copies of Hank's style and delivery.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #27 on:** April 27, 2013, 08:05:28 am »

Quote from: chuck on April 26, 2013, 11:17:06 pm

I can't believe no one has offered Hank Williams as their favorite country singer. So I will. As far as I'm concerned the only other figure in the history American popular music who is anywhere close to Hank Williams as a songwriter and a singer is Smokey Robinson.

Hank's my second favorite. I particularly like his Luke the Drifter talking songs and have a bunch of Hank on my ipod.

Bench · « **Reply #28 on:** April 27, 2013, 09:36:35 am »

Quote from: chuck on April 26, 2013, 11:17:06 pm

I can't believe no one has offered Hank Williams as their favorite country singer. So I will. As far as I'm concerned the only other figure in the history American popular music who is anywhere close to Hank Williams as a songwriter and a singer is Smokey Robinson.

Never heard of him.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #29 on:** April 27, 2013, 09:40:34 am »

Yes, Hank was great, a genius, but I don't think of Hank as a country singer anymore than I think of Woodie Guthrie as a folk singer. Some artists are so great, they transcend genres and stand on their own, beyond compare.

And Smokey has written his share of pretty sappy crap but also some of the most endearing, beautiful, and lasting songs ever, another transcendent artist.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #30 on:** April 27, 2013, 09:55:18 am »

Also, had Hank never have written a song, I don't think his singing is so great that he would have had much of a career singing other people's songs.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #31 on:** April 27, 2013, 10:29:24 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 27, 2013, 09:55:18 am

Also, had Hank never have written a song, I don't think his singing is so great that he would have had much of a career singing other people's songs.

Right. He packed several lifetimes of songwriting into his brief 29 year stay on terra firma.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #32 on:** April 27, 2013, 10:52:22 am »

So we now that we've started a list of people who are NOT country singers:

Hank Williams
Ernest Tubb
George Strait
Emmylou Harris
Willie Nelson

I'm sure it will make the candidate list for "Greatest Living Country Singer" a little less crowded. Say...Randy Travis has been getting drunk at a remarkable clip, perhaps he's in the running?

Ron Brand · « **Reply #33 on:** April 27, 2013, 11:13:16 am »

Jimmie Rodgers wasn't too bad. If you're just looking for guys who are still breathing, Merle Haggard is a good place to start.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #34 on:** April 27, 2013, 11:29:25 am »

With a few exceptions, Haggard and Lynn come to mind, they're almost all dead. Conway Twitty could sing a tune, so could Charlie Rich, Patsy Cline...

Bench · « **Reply #35 on:** April 27, 2013, 12:36:25 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 27, 2013, 10:52:22 am

So we now that we've started a list of people who are NOT country singers:

Hank Williams
Ernest Tubb
George Strait
Emmylou Harris
Willie Nelson

I'm sure it will make the candidate list for "Greatest Living Country Singer" a little less crowded. Say...Randy Travis has been getting drunk at a remarkable clip, perhaps he's in the running?

Chris Gaines?

chuck · « **Reply #36 on:** April 27, 2013, 01:44:27 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 27, 2013, 10:52:22 am

So we now that we've started a list of people who are NOT country singers:

Hank Williams
Ernest Tubb
George Strait
Emmylou Harris
Willie Nelson

I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Hank Williams or Ernest Tubb aren't country singers. Willie Nelson sings country sometimes and certainly wrote some all time classics but I personally don't consider him a country singer, partially due to what Sphinx was saying, he transcends a single genre. (Even though he sings reggae I don't ever think of Bob Marley as a reggae singer for the same reasons.)

Emmylou Harris is great and if you want to call her country that's fine with me.

juliogotay · « **Reply #37 on:** April 27, 2013, 03:16:45 pm »

Quote from: chuck on April 27, 2013, 01:44:27 pm

I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Hank Williams or Ernest Tubb aren't country singers. Willie Nelson sings country sometimes and certainly wrote some all time classics but I personally don't consider him a country singer, partially due to what Sphinx was saying, he transcends a single genre. (Even though he sings reggae I don't ever think of Bob Marley as a reggae singer for the same reasons.)

Emmylou Harris is great and if you want to call her country that's fine with me.

I don't think anybody is argueing that Tubb isn't a country singer. I think I may have not expressed myself well if that is where that notion came from. My quote was referring to Nelson not being a country singer and it was intended as sarcasm because I think Nelson is a country singer. The majority of his early work, when he became popular, famous and iconic was country although a different strain of it. He was a big part in country evolving and breaking down some barriers. Listen to Crazy, Hello Walls, Local Memory, Devil In A Sleeping Bag, Sad Songs and Waltzes, Bubbles in My Beer and tell me he isn't a country singer. But he does sometimes use a jazz phrasing in his singing, doesn't have much of a twang and I can see where your arguement can be made too. But I never meant to imply Tubb wasn't country.

chuck · « **Reply #38 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:07:52 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 27, 2013, 03:16:45 pm

But I never meant to imply Tubb wasn't country.

I didn't think you did. I thought Hudson was deliberately misrepresenting you for the hell of it.

I think that Red Headed Stranger and Stardust are every bit as representative as any of the songs you mention. That's why, to me, he's more than a country singer.

chuck · « **Reply #39 on:** April 28, 2013, 12:09:42 am »

This NY Times piece is pretty good:

http://tinyurl.com/cpde9fn

Bench · « **Reply #40 on:** April 28, 2013, 01:16:28 pm »

Quote from: chuck on April 27, 2013, 04:07:52 pm

I think that Red Headed Stranger and Stardust are every bit as representative as any of the songs you mention. That's why, to me, he's more than a country singer.

Likewise Teatro, which is my personal favorite Willie album, can hardly be called country.

juliogotay · « **Reply #41 on:** April 28, 2013, 01:37:25 pm »

Quote from: Bench on April 28, 2013, 01:16:28 pm

Likewise Teatro, which is my personal favorite Willie album, can hardly be called country.

I need to check-out Teatro. You guys really dont consider Red Headed Stranger country?

NeilT · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2013, 01:46:02 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 28, 2013, 01:37:25 pm

I need to check-out Teatro. You guys really dont consider Red Headed Stranger country?

Red Headed Stranger is Country. How can Red Headed Stranger not be Country?

Ron Brand · « **Reply #43 on:** April 28, 2013, 02:42:03 pm »

Quote from: NeilT on April 28, 2013, 01:46:02 pm

Red Headed Stranger is Country. How can Red Headed Stranger not be Country?

Other than it not being that Alabama-Oak Ridge Boys shit and freaking Nashville to its bones when it came out, yeah, it's country.

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #44 on:** April 28, 2013, 05:30:23 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on April 26, 2013, 05:33:01 pm

Cute.

If you promise to cuddle me afterwards....Don Williams.

Just when I doubted you knew everything you come up with this......