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Bedard
« on: April 10, 2013, 08:43:57 am »
Why was he pulled in the 4th?
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 08:55:05 am »
I think because of his shortened Spring, he hasn't built up his pitch count. They didn't want to go off the plan.
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 09:12:16 am »
Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2013, 08:55:05 am
I think because of his shortened Spring, he hasn't built up his pitch count. They didn't want to go off the plan.

That's what McTaggart reported as well.  Also, tandem pitching!
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 11:34:30 am »
I appreciate that... But... I always kinda thought a manager would at least give a starter (especially a veteran) that 5th inning to qualify for a win... Especially when he had a 1-hit shutout going and a 13-0 lead...
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 11:57:30 am »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on April 10, 2013, 11:34:30 am
I appreciate that... But... I always kinda thought a manager would at least give a starter (especially a veteran) that 5th inning to qualify for a win... Especially when he had a 1-hit shutout going and a 13-0 lead...


Hoisted on his own Bedard?
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 12:11:16 pm »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on April 10, 2013, 11:34:30 am
I appreciate that... But... I always kinda thought a manager would at least give a starter (especially a veteran) that 5th inning to qualify for a win... Especially when he had a 1-hit shutout going and a 13-0 lead...

I saw that he didn't get the win.  In a game where the team has the lead in the fifth and keeps it, is it always the pitcher finishing the fifth who gets the win?  I thought the official scorer had some discretion in those games.  Clemens line didn't look deserving when compared to Bedard's.  
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 12:22:17 pm »
Quote from: jbm on April 10, 2013, 12:11:16 pm
I saw that he didn't get the win.  In a game where the team has the lead in the fifth and keeps it, is it always the pitcher finishing the fifth who gets the win?  I thought the official scorer had some discretion in those games.  Clemens line didn't look deserving when compared to Bedard's.  

The starter has to go at least 5 innings to be eligible for the win. After that, the scorer does have some discretion.
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 12:36:18 pm »
Quote from: EasTexAstro on April 10, 2013, 12:22:17 pm
The starter has to go at least 5 innings to be eligible for the win. After that, the scorer does have some discretion.
Right. So the win could've gone to Clemens or Ambriz. Obviously neither one really "deserved" it.
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 01:25:57 pm »
Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2013, 08:55:05 am
I think because of his shortened Spring, he hasn't built up his pitch count. They didn't want to go off the plan.

It's All. Part. Of the Plan.
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2013, 01:36:32 pm »
Quote from: Limey on April 10, 2013, 11:57:30 am

Hoisted on his own Bedard?

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Re: Bedard
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 04:24:04 pm »
Quote from: Bench on April 10, 2013, 09:12:16 am
That's what McTaggart reported as well.  Also, tandem pitching!
Seriously, I would not be at all surprised if the Astros decide to experiment with tandem pitching in the #5 spot. Clemens would certainly benefit (if the the theory holds).  Of course, Bedard has yet to allow a run in either role, so he has probably earned the #5 spot.
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Re: Bedard
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 04:44:47 pm »
Quote from: VirtualBob on April 11, 2013, 04:24:04 pm
Seriously, I would not be at all surprised if the Astros decide to experiment with tandem pitching in the #5 spot. Clemens would certainly benefit (if the the theory holds).  Of course, Bedard has yet to allow a run in either role, so he has probably earned the #5 ace spot.

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Re: Bedard
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 08:42:30 am »
Quote from: EasTexAstro on April 10, 2013, 12:22:17 pm
The starter has to go at least 5 innings to be eligible for the win. After that, the scorer does have some discretion.

The pitching lines for Bedard and Clemens show why this rule should be changed.
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