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Astros at Mets – A Heartfelt Goodbye to the New York Mets
« on: August 23, 2012, 11:31:39 pm »
An outpouring of emotion -- or something -- for the last time we have to see the New York Mets. WARNING -- There may be F-Bombs ahead.

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2012, 11:43:04 pm »
Fuckin' A!!!
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 12:03:48 am »
Another fine preview from The Master. Bravo!
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 08:27:27 am »
I was hoping Francesca's meltdown yesterday would make the preview.

Excellent job.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 09:04:11 am »
You've raised the hate bar for the final set of series previews.  Bravo.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 09:34:53 am »
Excellent, as always.  We may be going down, but we're going down swinging.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 10:56:41 am »
Ah, the sweet nectar of Fuck The Mets!
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 04:11:24 pm »
Holy shit.  Abad is starting tomorrow's game.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 04:20:49 pm »
Holy shit.  Abad is starting tomorrow's game.

My head literally just started hurting by reading that.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 04:25:57 pm »
Holy shit.  Abad is starting tomorrow's game.

And why the fuck not? He can't be any worse than Galarraga, Keuchel or anyone else we run out there. JD gets his wish. We'll see what he has to say about that tonight and tomorrow.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 04:31:57 pm »
And why the fuck not? He can't be any worse than Galarraga, Keuchel or anyone else we run out there.

You've seen him pitch, right?
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 04:53:51 pm »
And this is one of the series' where we have a good shot at winning a game.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 05:01:38 pm »
And this is one of the series' where we have a good shot at winning a game.

Do the Mets really want to give up their title of worst team in recent memory?
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 05:04:23 pm »
Do the Mets really want to give up their title of worst team in recent memory?

Frankly, I'm half in favor of taking it from them.  Give us something to look back on when the team eventually wins the World Series.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 06:27:15 pm »
I was hoping Francesca's meltdown yesterday would make the preview.

Excellent job.

Ditto.

I loved Francesca's rant.  It was the best kind of meltdown; while he was going off like the nuclear A-bomb, he was laughing a little, too.

That's how you stay (relatively) sane.

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2012, 07:47:57 pm »
You've seen him pitch, right?

Actually, yes. Yes, I have. While I surprised myself by saying that, his last several outings actually were pretty good. Granted, he was a home run machine for awhile, and he may return to form. It would be par for the season.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2012, 10:29:31 am »
Ditto.

I loved Francesca's rant.  It was the best kind of meltdown; while he was going off like the nuclear A-bomb, he was laughing a little, too.

That's how you stay (relatively) sane.

He was certainly laughing.  He's a Yankee fan.
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Re: Astros at Mets – A Heartfelt Goodbye to the New York Mets
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2012, 06:31:16 pm »
An outpouring of emotion -- or something -- for the last time we have to see the New York Mets. WARNING -- There may be F-Bombs ahead.

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Y'see now, I'm going to miss stuff like this as our 51 year-old series grinds to a halt.

Not that this just-concluded series or these last couple of years in general have had much on the line or contained the drama of seasons past such as ... well I won't mention all of them here, but even just going back to some of those wild back-and-forth games & series in the late '90s/early 2000s when both teams fighting for divisions semi-regularly.

Most of all I'm sorry to be losing your squad via a forced march over to the dark side.  It sucks but what can you do?
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2012, 07:04:06 pm »

Y'see now, I'm going to miss stuff like this as our 51 year-old series grinds to a halt.

Not that this just-concluded series or these last couple of years in general have had much on the line or contained the drama of seasons past such as ... well I won't mention all of them here, but even just going back to some of those wild back-and-forth games & series in the late '90s/early 2000s when both teams fighting for divisions semi-regularly.

Most of all I'm sorry to be losing your squad via a forced march over to the dark side.  It sucks but what can you do?
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2012, 05:41:00 pm »
And just in case anyone starts to get all sad and gooey-nostalgic over the thought of not having an NYC team in your league to hate - you will.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2012, 06:26:25 am »
And just in case anyone starts to get all sad and gooey-nostalgic over the thought of not having an NYC team in your league to hate - you will.
Oh trust me on this one, you will.

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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2012, 07:36:00 am »
So you'll just have to keep coming around to share in the hate.

+1 Keep coming around, L.I. Bill!!!
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2012, 08:59:16 pm »
An outpouring of emotion -- or something -- for the last time we have to see the New York Mets. WARNING -- There may be F-Bombs ahead.

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Fuck the goddamn steM and every son of a whore who ever played for that abortion of a franchise. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2012, 09:12:39 pm »
Fuck the goddamn steM and every son of a whore who ever played for that abortion of a franchise. 

Now hold the fuck on. Jay and Moises Alou played for the Mets. So did Bob Aspromonte.

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2012, 09:15:06 pm »
Bass, Beauchamp, Bell. Pedro Astacio.

And nobody gets to bitch about Yogi Berra.
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2012, 09:16:42 pm »
Bogar. Byrdak. Cangelosi.

Enough.
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2012, 09:24:14 pm »
Bogar. Byrdak. Cangelosi.

Enough.

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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2012, 09:30:50 pm »
I'll see your good guys and raise you a Strawberry and a Dykstra.
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2012, 09:37:37 pm »
I'll see your good guys and raise you a Strawberry and a Dykstra.

I'm just saying everyone wasn't a son of a whore. Just most of them.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2012, 09:39:36 pm »
I always liked Carl Everett despite myself.
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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2012, 10:52:14 pm »
I always liked Carl Everett despite myself.

C4 was one of my favorite Astros, ever. If for no other reason than he killed the FTCubs. He hated Wrigley Field, too, wanted to blast it to smithereens ... which would've been stupid, since he had a career OPS of 1.000 in that dump, something like that.

I know he was a wing nut, but like you, I liked him anyway.

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2012, 10:56:45 pm »
I know he was a wing nut, but like you, I liked him anyway.

His craziness seeped over onto the baseball diamond but somehow seemingly in a positive way. When he wasn't busy starving his kids or discoursing on dinosaurs he was terrorizing opponents on the field in the most lunatic of ways. Which I always liked.

Man, they had some good lineups back then.
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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2012, 11:21:10 pm »
His craziness seeped over onto the baseball diamond but somehow seemingly in a positive way. When he wasn't busy starving his kids or discoursing on dinosaurs he was terrorizing opponents on the field in the most lunatic of ways. Which I always liked.

Man, they had some good lineups back then.

I don't know if you remember it, but I'll never forget a series vs.the Cubs in Wrigley, in early August, 1998.  The Astros were in a pennant race, and Everett had just come off the 15-day DL, and he went off on the Cubs that weekend.  He went something like 10-for-13 with three or four HRs.  He stood right on top of the plate, particularly batting LH, and the stupid fucking Cubs (managed by Jim Riggleman, BTW) kept throwing at him.  But C4 would open up and pull those pitches out onto whatever fucking streets it is that run by the outfield of that piece of shit stadium.  They finally hit him in the last inning of the last game, but it was way too late by then.

What I liked about Everett was instead of getting all pissy about being thrown at, he fed on it. You could see the crazy gleam in his eye, and then - BAM - he'd hit another one out.

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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2012, 12:28:53 am »
What I liked about Everett was instead of getting all pissy about being thrown at, he fed on it. You could see the crazy gleam in his eye, and then - BAM - he'd hit another one out.

This is what I'm talking about. He was crazy as hell but his sort of crazy worked perfectly for him on the field.

I don't remember that series in particular but I do remember very fondly how he stood on top of the plate, especially LH as you mention, and just dared pitchers to back him off.
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2012, 09:26:12 am »
This is what I'm talking about. He was crazy as hell but his sort of crazy worked perfectly for him on the field.

I don't remember that series in particular but I do remember very fondly how he stood on top of the plate, especially LH as you mention, and just dared pitchers to back him off.

I'm in the same boat as you guys.  I wasn't aware of his off-the-field antics at the time, but he was an Astro and he could mash.  So I liked him.
The fact that he's bat-shit crazy adds a redeeming quality.  Haven't heard about starving his kids though....
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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2012, 10:14:43 am »
I'm in the same boat as you guys.  I wasn't aware of his off-the-field antics at the time, but he was an Astro and he could mash.  So I liked him.
The fact that he's bat-shit crazy adds a redeeming quality.  Haven't heard about starving his kids though....

My recollection is that the neglect / spousal abuse was perpetrated by his then wife, but he was widely assumed to have been the guilty party because he's crazy.
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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2012, 12:49:28 pm »
Yeah, that was from back when he was with the Mets.
 
They had a child care area at Shea where players and other employees could bring their kids and have them looked after.  Well at some point someone notices that one of Carl's kids has marks on him (I think it was a him) or other suspicious signs and, not wanting to foreshadow Penn State, reports the case to some higher ups.

Well, needless to say, the whole thing got pretty ugly, partly due to the whole aforementioned bat-shit crazy thing but also because it was one of the other wives (Mrs. Bernard Gilkey IIRC) who first noticed and pointed out the problem.  I forget how it all wound up but there was definitely talk about how Carl was essentially taking the rap for his wife, an issue which was complicated by the fact that the kid, the oldest of Carl's several children, was from, how they say, a "previous relationship" and so, biologically and possibly legally as well, was his but not hers.

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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2012, 01:28:24 pm »
Wow... USS Mariner site went way, way into depth on Carl Everett and the child abuse issue:
http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/15/3198/
http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/16/a-much-better-summary/

Super short version: Police never filed charges. A family court found his wife guilty of using excessive force, and Everett guilty of not stepping in to stop her.
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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2012, 01:58:35 pm »
Wow, I sure didn't remember Bochy playing for the Astros.

Bochy was the 3rd string catcher on the '80 playoff squad.  I don't remember if Ashby got hurt during or before the NLCS, but Luis Pujols was doing an adequate job against the Phillies, then he got hurt.  The only thing I distinctly remember about Bochy is when he did his Ray Fosse imitation and allowed Pete Rose to barrell over him and score the winning run in Game 4.
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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2012, 02:52:32 pm »
I don't know if you remember it, but I'll never forget a series vs.the Cubs in Wrigley, in early August, 1998.  The Astros were in a pennant race, and Everett had just come off the 15-day DL, and he went off on the Cubs that weekend.  He went something like 10-for-13 with three or four HRs.  He stood right on top of the plate, particularly batting LH, and the stupid fucking Cubs (managed by Jim Riggleman, BTW) kept throwing at him.  But C4 would open up and pull those pitches out onto whatever fucking streets it is that run by the outfield of that piece of shit stadium.  They finally hit him in the last inning of the last game, but it was way too late by then.

What I liked about Everett was instead of getting all pissy about being thrown at, he fed on it. You could see the crazy gleam in his eye, and then - BAM - he'd hit another one out.

Went to one of those games.  Hampton was lights out, and Hildalgo had a couple of OF assists.  Good Guys won, and I got cussed at by Cubfans.  It was a good day.
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2012, 07:49:28 pm »
I'm just saying everyone wasn't a son of a whore. Just most of them.

And that's a very fair point, Mr. Brand.  In my defense, my statement could be read as referring not the decent fellows like Kevin Bass, but only to all those sons of whores who did play for the steM.  See, Nolan Lynn fucking Ryan.

And, C4 was beyond nucking futs.  Like an ex-girlfriend (or two) of mine, he was soup sandwich crazy.
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« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2012, 06:23:27 am »
Bochy was the 3rd string catcher on the '80 playoff squad.  I don't remember if Ashby got hurt during or before the NLCS, but Luis Pujols was doing an adequate job against the Phillies, then he got hurt.  The only thing I distinctly remember about Bochy is when he did his Ray Fosse imitation and allowed Pete Rose to barrell over him and score the winning run in Game 4.
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« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2012, 07:58:01 am »
Didn't he catch Ryan's no-hitter?

Ashby caught #5.  Went 1 for 4 with 2 rbi.

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« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2012, 08:16:09 am »
Ashby caught #5.  Went 1 for 4 with 2 rbi.
That's bizarre, I could have sworn I was told Bochy caught one.  I had to look it up for myself to make sure you were right and came across this tidbit: Bochy has a cap size greater than 8.  That's a big frickin' noggin.