Author Topic: Wandy close to being a Pirate?? (Read 9481 times)

chandler44 · « **on:** July 24, 2012, 08:01:56 pm »

According to MLB Trade rumors, they're close.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/pirates-close-to-acquiring-wandy-rodriguez.html

pots · « **Reply #1 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:04:17 pm »

Arrrgh! Wandy

moriartp · « **Reply #2 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:07:49 pm »

First, I love your avatar. I need to watch Deadwood again.

Second, the Pirates have some good prospect depth to pick from. This could be good news.

Third, who comes up to fill Wandy's spot? Galarraga?

moriartp · « **Reply #3 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:17:17 pm »

Heyman: #pirates get wandy rodriguez, source says. @Tom_Singer reported it was getting close.

FWIW, Pirates prospect Alen Hanson was pulled after one at-bat tonight. BA had him in their midseason top 50 prospects.

Lefty · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:17:24 pm »

Rumors in Pittsburgh have A-ball SS Alen Hanson heading our way, with the Stros kicking in money. Very interesting prospect.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-bulletin/2012/2613771.html

Ron Brand · « **Reply #5 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:20:07 pm »

That's all?

.898 fielding percentage at SS. Yow.

moriartp · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:20:20 pm »

Morosi: #Pirates agree to acquire Wandy Rodriguez from #Astros, source confirms.

austro · « **Reply #7 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:21:29 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on July 24, 2012, 08:20:07 pm

That's all?

.898 fielding percentage at SS. Yow.

Oh, come on. Everybody knows that SS is an offensive position.

MusicMan · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:21:57 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on July 24, 2012, 08:20:07 pm

That's all?

.898 fielding percentage at SS. Yow.

That's all?? Getting a top 50 guy for Wandy is damn near a miracle.

MusicMan · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:22:24 pm »

Quote from: austro on July 24, 2012, 08:21:29 pm

Oh, come on. Everybody knows that SS is an offensive position.

It's been offensive here for a long time.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:23:30 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 24, 2012, 08:21:57 pm

That's all?? Getting a top 50 guy for Wandy is damn near a miracle.

If you say so. I expected a little more, he's a living, breathing left handed starting pitcher.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:24:17 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 24, 2012, 08:22:24 pm

It's been offensive here for a long time.

wait till Wallace takes over

Ron Brand · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:25:33 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 24, 2012, 08:24:17 pm

wait till Wallace takes over

Yeah! Why'd we get this guy, Wallace has him blocked!

pots · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:25:42 pm »

Wandy giving hugs in the dugout

drew corleone · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:26:16 pm »

Sad to see him go. But excited to see how this helps the club in the long run.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:26:46 pm »

Turn out the lights on 2005.

94CougarGrad · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:27:53 pm »

Did I hear Brownie right? Next time he pitches, it'll be against the Astros?

moriartp · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:28:12 pm »

Quote from: pots on July 24, 2012, 08:25:42 pm

Wandy giving hugs in the dugout

Strange sight to see. Wesley Wright is now the longest-tenured Astro, as Levine pointed out.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:28:45 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on July 24, 2012, 08:28:12 pm

Strange sight to see. Wesley Wright is now the longest-tenured Astro, as Levine pointed out.

And he's only 12.

pots · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:30:11 pm »

Looking at Alen Hanson minor league career, he's done fairly well at 2b, not so good at SS

Though from the article linked above:

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"It's a hard position—not a lot of guys survive shortstop," Sofield said. "He has the tools to play shortstop. Our number one priority is to make him a better shortstop. That's my job right now."

Sofield said that he is seeing more consistency from Hanson now than he did when the season began. After making 11 errors in April, 11 more in May and eight in June, Hanson has only committed four errors in July.

"I've seen him at times where you say, yes, he can absolutely play shortstop in the major leagues," Sofield said. "Can he maintain that? We'll see. He's 10 times better now than he was in April."

roadrunner · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:33:25 pm »

Rosenthal tweets it's Robbie Grossman.

moriartp · « **Reply #21 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:34:28 pm »

This will probably sound weird to most of you guys, but Wandy leaving feels more like the end of an era to me than Berkman or Oswalt did. I didn't start following the team in earnest until 2005, so Wandy was the first player I really watched develop and progress in the big leagues. He hasn't looked good recently, but I genuinely hope he finds success in Pittsburgh. I'll miss him.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #22 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:40:34 pm »

Grossman would be good.

moriartp · « **Reply #23 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:41:11 pm »

Quote from: roadrunner on July 24, 2012, 08:33:25 pm

Rosenthal tweets it's Robbie Grossman.

Hanson too, says Morosi. Badler calls him an "incredible get for the Astros."

Craig · « **Reply #24 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:42:06 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on July 24, 2012, 08:34:28 pm

This will probably sound weird to most of you guys, but Wandy leaving feels more like the end of an era to me than Berkman or Oswalt did. I didn't start following the team in earnest until 2005, so Wandy was the first player I really watched develop and progress in the big leagues. He hasn't looked good recently, but I genuinely hope he finds success in Pittsburgh. I'll miss him.

He was the last player from the World Series team.

Wandy won't even need to leave town yet, because the Pirates are the next series.

moriartp · « **Reply #25 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:43:06 pm »

Aw, shit. Morosi takes back Hanson claim:

Correction: Hanson not in deal. Pirates get LHP Wandy Rodriguez & cash from #Astros for Rudy Owens, Colton Cain and Robbie Grossman.

Got my hopes up.

pots · « **Reply #26 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:44:45 pm »

3 from the Pirates top 20 at the start of the season. 7,12,16

moriartp · « **Reply #27 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:53:29 pm »

Law: Love it for Houston.

Lefty · « **Reply #28 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:55:22 pm »

Owens: http://players.piratesprospects.com/2010/02/rudy-owens.html

Cain: http://players.piratesprospects.com/2010/02/colton-cain.html

A little info on Grossman, plus some BP video: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/7/7/3143898/minor-league-prospect-notes-robbie-grossman-tyler-jones

jbm · « **Reply #29 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:56:32 pm »

Quote from: pots on July 24, 2012, 08:44:45 pm

3 from the Pirates top 20 at the start of the season. 7,12,16

So, a bunch of probable nothing for something.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #30 on:** July 24, 2012, 08:56:42 pm »

That does look like a good deal for Houston. Cool.

MusicMan · « **Reply #31 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:00:43 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on July 24, 2012, 08:53:29 pm

Law: Love it for Houston.

He must hate himself for typing that.

Bench · « **Reply #32 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:05:16 pm »

Quote from: jbm on July 24, 2012, 08:56:32 pm

So, a bunch of probable nothing for something.

I don't think you grasp what's going on with the plan for the Astros.

Bench · « **Reply #33 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:06:20 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 24, 2012, 09:00:43 pm

He must hate himself for typing that.

I think he's big time on board with the Luhnow regime. Doesn't mean his opinion should be noteworthy either way.

MusicMan · « **Reply #34 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:06:44 pm »

Bravo, Footer:

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astros trade Wandy, Paterno family releases statement complaining that no one consulted them first

cougar · « **Reply #35 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:10:32 pm »

Quote from: jbm on July 24, 2012, 08:56:32 pm

So, a bunch of probable nothing for something.

Yes, because the Astros are certainly in a "win now" frame of mind.

MusicMan · « **Reply #36 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:12:06 pm »

I'm realizing tat Harrell is now the ace of the staff. Damn

jbm · « **Reply #37 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:13:01 pm »

Quote from: Bench on July 24, 2012, 09:05:16 pm

I don't think you grasp what's going on with the plan for the Astros.

It's clear, trade present for potential, hope potential becomes present, then think about trading it for potential.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #38 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:13:19 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 24, 2012, 09:12:06 pm

I'm realizing tat Harrell is now the ace of the staff. Damn

That's a sobering thought.

austro · « **Reply #39 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:14:47 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on July 24, 2012, 09:13:19 pm

That's a sobering thought.

The good news is that he's actually pitching like one.

remy · « **Reply #40 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:14:54 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on July 24, 2012, 08:26:46 pm

Turn out the lights on 2005.

All that once was is now gone. I was in the Wrigley bleachers in May of 2005 to witness Wandy's major league debut. If I recall correctly, the HGH twins started the previous two games and lost. Wandy came in for game 3 and shut 'em down to avoid the sweep. And thus started the slow crawl out of the cellar.

moriartp · « **Reply #41 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:17:05 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on July 24, 2012, 09:13:19 pm

That's a sobering thought.

It is, but he's been very solid and Wade got him for nothing. He's the kind of pickup who can make a team like this slightly less unwatchable.

juliogotay · « **Reply #42 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:33:32 pm »

Yes, Harrel was the ace of this staff prior to this game. Ace being used very loosely as in every team has one.

chuck · « **Reply #43 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:39:33 pm »

Damn. I've known Wandy so long I knew him when he was someone else entirely.

roadrunner · « **Reply #44 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:42:39 pm »

13 prospects acquired this month. The Astros need a new minor league affiliate just for that.

juliogotay · « **Reply #45 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:44:11 pm »

Grossman, a switch-hitter, is primarily a CFer. He was Bucs MiL player of year last year. One of the LHers was Bucs MiL pithcer of the year in 09 and 10.

MusicMan · « **Reply #46 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:55:46 pm »

BP summary paraphrased:
Owens- most big league ready, should see Houston this year, low walk rate, back of the rotation piece.
Cain - most upside, curve flattens out, change improved
Grossman - no star level tools but no weaknesses. If he sticks in CF, has great value.

roadrunner · « **Reply #47 on:** July 24, 2012, 09:59:56 pm »

What is the CC outfield now with Grossman? Wates is hurt now, no?

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #48 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:14:19 pm »

Quote from: chuck on July 24, 2012, 09:39:33 pm

Damn. I've known Wandy so long I knew him when he was someone else entirely.

Eny Cabreja if I recall. Weren't we with him when he had a bad case of herpes as well or was that someone else?

Arky Vaughan · « **Reply #49 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:15:53 pm »

Luhnow has been nothing if not efficient in cleaning house. Cordero and Francisco are now the only guys over $1 million. The payroll commitments of the players no longer with the team must exceed the payroll commitments to the remaining players by several multiples.

Now let's let 'em play and see what happens.

Bench · « **Reply #50 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:32:06 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 24, 2012, 10:14:19 pm

Weren't we with him when he had a bad case of herpes as well or was that someone else?

The very first year the games were shown on HD too.

chuck · « **Reply #51 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:47:00 pm »

Quote from: Bench on July 24, 2012, 10:32:06 pm

The very first year the games were shown on HD too.

Which helped us appreciate the movie-star good looks of Zeke Astacio.

Fynn · « **Reply #52 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:53:25 pm »

I really feel wierd tonight...the end of an era. Its appropriate to let go of the players we have known for years as we travel in another direction.

Jose Cruz III · « **Reply #53 on:** July 24, 2012, 11:29:51 pm »

Hate to see Wandy go. Hope he pushes the Bucs to the playoffs.

cougar · « **Reply #54 on:** July 24, 2012, 11:49:29 pm »

Quote from: chuck on July 24, 2012, 09:39:33 pm

Damn. I've known Wandy so long I knew him when he was someone else entirely.

Yup. Carbeja's a Pirate.

Ebby Calvin · « **Reply #55 on:** July 25, 2012, 08:17:37 am »

Quote from: Jose Cruz III on July 24, 2012, 11:29:51 pm

Hate to see Wandy go. Hope he pushes the Bucs to the playoffs.

Yep.

pots · « **Reply #56 on:** July 25, 2012, 08:53:40 am »

http://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/227966171037712385

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Luhnow said Cain to high A, Grossman to AA, Owens to AAA.

Gizzmonic · « **Reply #57 on:** July 25, 2012, 09:36:50 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on July 24, 2012, 10:14:19 pm

Eny Cabreja if I recall. Weren't we with him when he had a bad case of herpes as well or was that someone else?

I wasn't with him when he had a bad case of herpes. You might ask Derek Jeter though.

94CougarGrad · « **Reply #58 on:** July 25, 2012, 02:46:05 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 24, 2012, 09:06:44 pm

Bravo, Footer:

astros trade Wandy, Paterno family releases statement complaining that no one consulted them first

Footer's tweet: SFN.

moriartp · « **Reply #59 on:** July 25, 2012, 02:51:44 pm »

Patti Smith's tweet from a few days ago was outstanding:

To everyone upset about Joe Paterno's statue being taken down: Just look the other way and pretend it's not happening.

Randy Watson · « **Reply #60 on:** July 25, 2012, 03:40:04 pm »

Quote from: 94CougarGrad on July 24, 2012, 08:27:53 pm

Did I hear Brownie right? Next time he pitches, it'll be against the Astros?

That will help his ERA

Limey · « **Reply #61 on:** July 25, 2012, 03:49:20 pm »

Quote from: Randy Watson on July 25, 2012, 03:40:04 pm

That will help his ~~ERA~~ BA

FIFY

Duman · « **Reply #62 on:** July 25, 2012, 04:23:16 pm »

Not than anyone cares what he things but Keith Law just posted " it (the three minor leaguers) was too much to give up for a veteran player who doesn't make the team substantially better." (insider)