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Astros contract obligations
« on: May 16, 2012, 02:59:06 pm »
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 03:03:32 pm »
Basically, the team's contract commitments for next year are below Carlos Lee's current salary.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 03:10:20 pm »
Is that the first information about Carlos wanting to stay after this year?
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 03:22:40 pm »
Quote from: Matt on May 16, 2012, 03:10:20 pm
Is that the first information about Carlos wanting to stay after this year?

No.  He has a ranch near by.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 03:24:12 pm »
Quote from: Bench on May 16, 2012, 03:22:40 pm
No.  He has a ranch near by.

Yeah I knew that but didn't know he wanted to stay and continue playing. I guess it makes sense though.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 03:35:36 pm »
the horse needs to gallop off into the sunset.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 03:44:01 pm »
Does Carlos really fit as a DH anyway?  I never thought he was a liability in the field, either in left or at first, so it's not like he is one of those slugs that can't field a position.  I just wonder if he will hit well enough to justify a DH position, at any salary level.  In other words, if he could still hit, play him at first and find an all hit/no field slug for DH. 

btw.  I like Lee, and still think he gives some of the most professional ABs on the club, he just doesn't seem to have much pop anymore. 
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 03:46:26 pm »
If Carlos was willing to play at a reasonable wage, 5-8 million, why wouldn't they want him back?  Who is going to play 1st/DH next year?  Brett Wallace?

Carlos is playing well and has gotten steadily better in the field.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2012, 03:56:04 pm »
Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2012, 03:46:26 pm
If Carlos was willing to play at a reasonable wage, 5-8 million, why wouldn't they want him back?  Who is going to play 1st/DH next year?  Brett Wallace?

Carlos is playing well and has gotten steadily better in the field.

Carlos appears to be the club's best current option at 1B in 2013, barring some free agent signing (seriously doubtful) or a prospect getting ready earlier than expected. I'm concerned about his loss of power, which is going to be more necessary next season, but I like him a lot in the clubhouse for the young players. However, as to price, I doubt that Lunhow is going to go as high as you suggest. If Carlos really wants to play here, he'll probably have to play for less than $5 million, and with only a one year deal. I don't know what his available alternatives will be at season's end, or even if he is even an Astro at season's end.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2012, 04:13:55 pm »
Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2012, 03:46:26 pm
If Carlos was willing to play at a reasonable wage, 5-8 million,

You're contradicting yourself.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2012, 04:14:14 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on May 16, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
Carlos appears to be the club's best current option at 1B in 2013, barring some free agent signing (seriously doubtful) or a prospect getting ready earlier than expected. I'm concerned about his loss of power, which is going to be more necessary next season, but I like him a lot in the clubhouse for the young players. However, as to price, I doubt that Lunhow is going to go as high as you suggest. If Carlos really wants to play here, he'll probably have to play for less than $5 million, and with only a one year deal. I don't know what his available alternatives will be at season's end, or even if he is even an Astro at season's end.

Singleton will be the opening day 1b.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2012, 04:19:45 pm »
cant you imagine management just salivating over the thought of lees salary being freed up
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2012, 04:25:20 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on May 16, 2012, 04:13:55 pm
You're contradicting yourself.

Ha! I just don't keep up with contracts like I used to I guess.  What kind of money would Carlos draw as a free agent?
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2012, 04:30:38 pm »
Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2012, 04:25:20 pm
Ha! I just don't keep up with contracts like I used to I guess.  What kind of money would Carlos draw as a free agent?

$1.5-$2M.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2012, 04:31:34 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on May 16, 2012, 04:14:14 pm
Singleton will be the opening day 1b.

Any reason for saying so? Under Wade I imagine that'd be true, but the new guys might prefer to let him develop.


Quote from: Navin R Johnson on May 16, 2012, 04:25:20 pm
What kind of money would Carlos draw as a free agent?

Not saying it's necessarily a great comparison, but Vlad Guerrero just signed with the Jays for a prorated $1.3mm after not finding a job in the offseason.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2012, 04:32:54 pm »
Quote from: moriartp on May 16, 2012, 04:31:34 pm
Any reason for saying so? Under Wade I imagine that'd be true, but the new guys might prefer to let him develop.

He'll have either a full season of AA, or a mix of AA/AAA, plus a September call up.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2012, 04:42:19 pm »
Quote from: MusicMan on May 16, 2012, 04:14:14 pm
Singleton will be the opening day 1b.

Do you think so? I'm not up on the farm system under the new regime, but I'd think that he'd be the guy in 2014. Maybe I'm dead ass wrong. If he's ready, then I say play him.
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Astros contract obligations
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2012, 04:44:18 pm »
I would like to see Downs get an opportunity to play full time.

Can Fernando Martinez play first?
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2012, 04:45:12 pm »
It'll be nice if another few months of development is all Singleton needs, but I think that's a pretty optimistic timetable. His numbers have fallen off a cliff recently, and he hasn't done jack against lefties. That doesn't mean he won't be good, it just shows that he's a 20-year-old in AA who could use some more time to hone his skills. There's no rush.
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Re: Astros contract obligations
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2012, 05:53:00 pm »
Quote from: geezerdonk on May 16, 2012, 04:44:18 pm
I would like to see Downs get an opportunity to play full time.

Can Fernando Martinez play first?

Matt Downs is a lot like Travis Buck: better as a utility player. If Downs is a starter, then, in my opinion, the club is really is bad shape.
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