Author Topic: Corpus Christi - 2012 (Read 62443 times)

Duman · « **on:** March 24, 2012, 06:49:09 am »

Your one stop shop for AA Astros talk in 2012.

juliogotay · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2012, 09:23:15 pm »

Hooks lose to Los Astros tonight 6-2. Why isn't Cisnero, the CC starter tonight, considered one of the Astros top 20 prospects? In four innings tonight he whiffed 5, no walks, one hit (homer to CJ). Looking at his MiL stats he has well over a K an inning, way under a hit per inning and he's 23 in AA...not young or old. (if's he really 23). What am I missing?

MusicMan · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2012, 09:57:20 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 02, 2012, 09:23:15 pm

Hooks lose to Los Astros tonight 6-2. Why isn't Cisnero, the CC starter tonight, considered one of the Astros top 20 prospects? In four innings tonight he whiffed 5, no walks, one hit (homer to CJ). Looking at his MiL stats he has well over a K an inning, way under a hit per inning and he's 23 in AA...not young or old. (if's he really 23). What am I missing?

I believe his walks are greater than his strikeouts.

jbm · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2012, 10:17:27 pm »

What MM said and that Cisnero has been very inconsistent, almost game to game. But I also think there ought to be room for him in the top 20. Seaton and Alaniz also. The farm may lack a lot of high-ceiling types, but the depth of players who could ultimately contribute has increased quite a bit, IMO.

So is Meyer slated for a repeat of Lancaster?

juliogotay · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2012, 07:35:01 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on April 02, 2012, 09:57:20 pm

I believe his walks are greater than his strikeouts.

His walk totals are higher than you'd like but he's 2-1 K/BB ratio.

Hornstros · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2012, 12:48:25 pm »

Quote from: jbm on April 02, 2012, 10:17:27 pm

So is Meyer slated for a repeat of Lancaster?

he's listed on the Lancaster roster....keeping the Meyer/Mier left side of the infield together

Duman · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2012, 12:25:50 pm »

Corpus Roster rated #8 out of top 10 MILB rosters by BA to start the season:

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It has been a long time since the Astros could assemble enough talent to fill a roster like this, but last year's trades have helped make up for the organization's minor league talent deficiency. 1B Jonathan Singleton (No. 34) and RHP Jarred Cosart (No. 50) both came over in last summer's Hunter Pence trade. Fellow Phillies' pickups SS Jonathan Villar ahd RHP Josh Zeid are joined by ex-Brave LHP Brett Oberholtzer on what may be the Astros' most talented minor league club in a decade.

juliogotay · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2012, 02:01:06 pm »

I look forward to seeing them when they come to Frisco. I see the Frisco team is also ranked.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:30:15 pm »

They win their 1st game of the year 9-0, behind Cosart who goes 4.1 and Ks 5.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2012, 11:48:24 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on April 05, 2012, 10:30:15 pm

They win their 1st game of the year 9-0, behind Cosart who goes 4.1 and Ks 5.

Reid Ryan tweeted that Cosart sat at 98 in the first inning while striking out the side.

pots · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2012, 08:24:41 am »

Nice to see Wates hit the ground running with a 3 for 5, 2b, 3b, 3rbi night.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2012, 11:44:05 am »

Good read on Jose Martinez at Astros County. Wow. LINK

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2012, 03:59:56 pm »

No shit, wow.

tlott33 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2012, 11:03:22 pm »

Does anyone know why Cosart hasn't pitched since the 5th?

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 15, 2012, 08:02:29 am »

Quote from: tlott33 on April 14, 2012, 11:03:22 pm

Does anyone know why Cosart hasn't pitched since the 5th?

Blister issue or something like that. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was minor.

Fynn · « **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2012, 03:46:02 pm »

Quote from: astrosfan76 on April 15, 2012, 08:02:29 am

Blister issue or something like that. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was minor.

Blister on his thumb I hear.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 19, 2012, 08:18:08 pm »

Cosart slated to pitch Sunday.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:20:03 pm »

Quote from: astrosfan76 on April 19, 2012, 08:18:08 pm

Cosart slated to pitch Sunday.

Of course he was slated to start the last time through the order, too, then scratched at the last minute. We'll see.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 22, 2012, 04:27:01 pm »

Cosart back in the saddle, rolling the Roughriders for 5 shutout innings, giving up just 4 singles and struck out 4. The Hooks won the game 5-3.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #19 on:** April 24, 2012, 07:47:47 pm »

Singleton with 2 doubles and a steal of home in the Hooks win last night. LINK

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #20 on:** April 24, 2012, 08:23:14 pm »

Per Rajan, Singleton hit one off the batter's eye in CF at Whataburger Field tonight. Other @cchooks to hit HRs off batter's eye: Charlton Jimerson ('05), Drew Sutton ('08) and J.D. Martinez ('11). Five visitors have done it

Hooks video of the HR: http://twitvid.com/YLOHS

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 24, 2012, 08:32:55 pm »

Perhaps even more impressive, Cisnero has 12 K's in 5 innings tonight. He only gave up 4 hits, but his 4 walks led to 2 runs and 111 pitches. I would imagine his night is over.

jbm · « **Reply #22 on:** April 24, 2012, 09:28:31 pm »

I'm at the game. Another homer for Singleton. 2 homers and a triple.

Goebbert dropped a fly ball they ruled a hit. Cisnero should have gone 5 scoreless with 12 Ks.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #23 on:** April 25, 2012, 11:46:32 pm »

Just a couple of random thoughts on the Hooks game last night ...

Jonathan "YoYo" Aristil was sent back to CC for the second time this year and gave up 2 runs of his own as well as allowing his inherited runner to score. AA opponents are now batting .317 against him which jumps to .333 when his two brief stints at AAA are included.

Andrew Simunic went hitless to lower his season average to .406

TJ Steele went hitless to lower his season average to .128

Nobody is surprised.

juliogotay · « **Reply #24 on:** April 26, 2012, 09:00:14 am »

Quote from: VirtualBob on April 25, 2012, 11:46:32 pm

Just a couple of random thoughts on the Hooks game last night ...

Jonathan "YoYo" Aristil was sent back to CC for the second time this year and gave up 2 runs of his own as well as allowing his inherited runner to score. AA opponents are now batting .317 against him which jumps to .333 when his two brief stints at AAA are included.

Andrew Simunic went hitless to lower his season average to .406

TJ Steele went hitless to lower his season average to .128

Nobody is surprised.

Several years ago I remember hearing Bagwell singling out Steel as being a player he really liked at an off-season camp. I think that just shows that in baseball, more than any other sport perhaps, tools alone don't guarantee success.

jbm · « **Reply #25 on:** April 26, 2012, 03:31:10 pm »

Saw the first three games against Midland.

Singleton - moves well for guy his size. After the first two games, I assumed he could hold down left, but after seeing him there in the third game, I highly doubt it. Poor breaks and doesn't seem to be athletic enough to finish the plays. His approach at bat is great, like a good pro. He recognizes pitches well, waits for his pitch, dials his swing down with two strikes, and shows aggressiveness when it is warranted. Hits to all fields, and has pretty good power already. Need to see him against better pitchers, but he was very impressive.

Wates - he makes contact at an Altuve-like frequency. Also has a good approach. I'm not knowledgable enough to know if it is bat speed, strength or something else, but the ball doesn't jump off his bat as much as his contact would warrant. I only saw him play left and didn't see a lot hit at him, but he didn't look great out there. Arm seemed marginal. He has speed, but is not a blazer. Overall, he was very impressive. His ceiling seems higher than a fourth outfielder.

Villar - I keep reading that he is a prospect, but not sure why. He's no better than when I saw him last year. Sloppy and undisciplined in the field and can't hit.

Barnes - really enjoyed watching him play center. He breaks on the ball exceptionally well. There were a number of balls that looked like major trouble off the bat that he made the catch look easy. That being said, he seems incapable of handling off speed pitches. It got to the point where everyone must have known a curve was coming. I'm sure Barnes did too, but he can't recognize or lay off them.

There are some other good minor league position players, but I'd be surprised if any make a major league roster.

jbm · « **Reply #26 on:** April 26, 2012, 04:00:07 pm »

Cisnero - his fastball sits about 91, but reached 95. However, it plays way, way better than the velocity would indicate. Tons of swing and misses. Seemed like he threw a slider early, but abandoned it. His curve is slurvey, but has a relatively tight break. I didn't notice any changes. I read that he is a nibbler and lacks command. I don't agree. He just periodically loses focus. He can go 10 pitches in a row hitting his spot with both his fastball and curve, and the all of a sudden lose it, go 8 pitches that he can't control and then find his groove again. Just seems like focus to me.

Overall, you have to like a guy who can K 12 out of 15 outs, but the lack of a third pitch and the bad stretches will have to be overcome for him to be a major league starter.

Oberholtzen - lefty whose fastball can hit 95, but sits 91. Unlike Cisnero, his fastball plays down. Batters see it well and square it up often. Average breaking pitch and pretty good change. He just doesn't have a real go-to pitch in those tough at bats. His fielders didn't help him much.

Chapman - I was expecting a guy with great stuff and poor control. Instead, I saw a smooth leftie whose fastball hit 90 but he commanded it well. His breaking ball was average but he commanded it also.

Leon - nasty slider, can't locate his fastball.

For the Rockhounds:

Sonny Gray - no better than last year, although his velocity was up. He is a two pitch pitcher with a great curve, and an average fastball with below average command. That lessens the effectiveness of his curve as he has to turn to it too often.

Michael Choice - don't see him staying in center and it wouldn't surprise me if he never holds down a starting position on a major league roster.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #27 on:** April 26, 2012, 04:29:31 pm »

Great stuff JBM, thanks!

juliogotay · « **Reply #28 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:37:02 pm »

Quote from: jbm on April 26, 2012, 03:31:10 pm

Saw the first three games against Midland.

Singleton - moves well for guy his size. After the first two games, I assumed he could hold down left, but after seeing him there in the third game, I highly doubt it. Poor breaks and doesn't seem to be athletic enough to finish the plays. His approach at bat is great, like a good pro. He recognizes pitches well, waits for his pitch, dials his swing down with two strikes, and shows aggressiveness when it is warranted. Hits to all fields, and has pretty good power already. Need to see him against better pitchers, but he was very impressive.

Wates - he makes contact at an Altuve-like frequency. Also has a good approach. I'm not knowledgable enough to know if it is bat speed, strength or something else, but the ball doesn't jump off his bat as much as his contact would warrant. I only saw him play left and didn't see a lot hit at him, but he didn't look great out there. Arm seemed marginal. He has speed, but is not a blazer. Overall, he was very impressive. His ceiling seems higher than a fourth outfielder.

Villar - I keep reading that he is a prospect, but not sure why. He's no better than when I saw him last year. Sloppy and undisciplined in the field and can't hit.

Barnes - really enjoyed watching him play center. He breaks on the ball exceptionally well. There were a number of balls that looked like major trouble off the bat that he made the catch look easy. That being said, he seems incapable of handling off speed pitches. It got to the point where everyone must have known a curve was coming. I'm sure Barnes did too, but he can't recognize or lay off them.

There are some other good minor league position players, but I'd be surprised if any make a major league roster.

I think Marwin Gonzalez may be everything they hope Villar will be.

Uncle Charlie · « **Reply #29 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:38:02 am »

Saw the boys in Frisco last night. It was a bad night both on the field (12-0) and in the stands (little league night). Some impressions:

Cosart - fb sat around 93, off speed at 80 and curve at 74. Control was a big issue. While watching him in the pen he didn't seem to have that issue, but it certainly surfaced in the game. Opened by giving up a triple, then two walks before eventually conceding a couple of runs off a single where the runner was almost thrown out at the plate. Settled down for a while and then got wild again in the 5th. He was trying to overthrow and it was obvious. Two walks and a WP (which I would have scored a PB) later, he was gone. Eybar didn't give him much help though. Overall I was impressed. He looks the part and is able to vary speed well. Location just seemed to be an issue last night. I have some bbery (poor quality) video of a few pitches in the pen but can't figure out how to get it on here. If anyone has an idea, I'll post it.

Singleton - looked great. Smooth and fluid swing with a great approach at the plate. He had two hits. One was down the 1b line, the other between cf and rf which just didn't have enough power in the drive to get through the gap.

Barnes - I really enjoyed watching him. He powered a ball into the gap for a double. Track flys really well, which was sometimes a bit entertaining with a few balls given the stiff wind. Reasonable arm.

Didn't get a good impression of wates...maybe an off game. Villar was fluid at ss and Wallace didn't seem to be helping cosart much as a receiver.

juliogotay · « **Reply #30 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:20:47 pm »

Took in the Hooks game in Frisco tonight. Not much to report. Bad night all around. The star of the show was Barrett Loux. I don't know why Houston didn't pursue him when he came available (injury fears?). Look who took a chance on him. He is now 5=0 with an ERA under 2. No one had two hits off of him.

Cisnero started and did not pitch up to his numbers. With over a K an inning I expected to see a good pitchers duel but he was very mediocre. A couple of Ks and easily hittable. FB sat around 91-2 with an occasional 93-4. He threw an other pitch (change?) about 77 but I didn't see any off-speed pitch with much break or bite.

Wish there was more to report.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #31 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:54:07 pm »

Quote from: juliogotay on April 29, 2012, 09:20:47 pm

The star of the show was Barrett Loux. I don't know why Houston didn't pursue him when he came available (injury fears?). Look who took a chance on him. He is now 5=0 with an ERA under 2. No one had two hits off of him.

Of the NUMEROUS things that really piss me off about the end of McLane's ownership. this easily ranks towards the top. It cost TEX $320K or so to sign him - basically, considering what HOU spent on Ovando, DDSJR, etc., it was flier money. Yet by that time it was simply about end value to McLane, and he was unwilling to spend jack-sh*t on stuff that could be of real value to the team in future years... FYB!, and SUDMcL! (that'd be 'screw you Drayton McLane for those of y'all too inebriated to figure it out...).

juliogotay · « **Reply #32 on:** May 01, 2012, 03:09:46 pm »

Thought this piece on Brandon Barnes was interesting. http://corpuschristi.hooks.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120426&content_id=29742128&vkey=news_t482&fext=.jsp&sid=t482

pots · « **Reply #33 on:** May 01, 2012, 09:55:16 pm »

Aw crap

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Corpus Christi Top of the 1st
Austin Wates grounds out, shortstop Dusty Coleman to first baseman Anthony Aliotti.
Jake Goebbert grounds out, first baseman Anthony Aliotti to pitcher Gary Daley.
Jonathan Singleton hit by pitch.
Offensive Substitution: Pinch runner Jordan Kreke replaces Jonathan Singleton.

Anybody know anything about this?

Fynn · « **Reply #34 on:** May 02, 2012, 04:43:36 am »

Quote from: pots on May 01, 2012, 09:55:16 pm

Aw crap

Anybody know anything about this?

He was hit by an inside pitch squarely on his left knee. He briefly tried to walk it off, but had to leave the game. Hopefully it will be a bad bruise and nothing more.

moriartp · « **Reply #35 on:** May 02, 2012, 11:26:19 am »

Greg Rajan tweeted that it looked like a precautionary move rather than an immediate injury.

Fynn · « **Reply #36 on:** May 02, 2012, 08:51:06 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on May 02, 2012, 11:26:19 am

Greg Rajan tweeted that it looked like a precautionary move rather than an immediate injury.

Singleton was in today's lineup.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2012, 10:21:37 am »

Cosart to Oklahoma (previously reported) and Musick up from Lancaster to take his place. Wes was off to a great start at 3-1, 2.51 and a 26:7 K:BB ratio in 5 starts (32 1/3 IP including a CG).

moriartp · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2012, 01:10:48 pm »

Crazy two-man wall-tumbling catch last night: http://www.twitvid.com/LDZGX

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2012, 05:18:39 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on May 06, 2012, 01:10:48 pm

Crazy two-man wall-tumbling catch last night: http://www.twitvid.com/LDZGX

VERY COOL!

Fynn · « **Reply #40 on:** May 07, 2012, 01:03:54 am »

Quote from: moriartp on May 06, 2012, 01:10:48 pm

Crazy two-man wall-tumbling catch last night: http://www.twitvid.com/LDZGX

I believe that was Wates who made the catch, right?

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #41 on:** May 07, 2012, 01:38:03 am »

Quote from: Fynn on May 07, 2012, 01:03:54 am

I believe that was Wates who made the catch, right?

Yep

jbm · « **Reply #42 on:** May 07, 2012, 08:29:07 am »

Thanks for the link. Pretty amazing that they both flip over the wall in unison and pop up in unison. Like a well-executed movie stunt.

Duman · « **Reply #43 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:01:02 pm »

Barnes is a big guy who was a pretty good football player. I wouldn't want to make contact with him at full speed. Impressive catch in multiple ways.

Reuben · « **Reply #44 on:** May 07, 2012, 08:44:12 pm »

Quote from: AppyAstros on May 07, 2012, 03:01:02 pm

Barnes is a big guy who was a pretty good football player. I wouldn't want to make contact with him at full speed. Impressive catch in multiple ways.

I was struck not just by how odd it was, but how lucky they both were not to be hurt at all.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #45 on:** May 14, 2012, 02:42:04 pm »

Bodie on Cosart: McTaggart LINK

"That was a nice start from Cosart, who's a power arm and an outstanding prospect," Bodie said. "He just needs to pitch. He needs to learn how to command the arsenal he's got. He's got a plus fastball, curveball and changeup, but like every power arm, more times than not, he's a thrower and not a pitcher. He's got to get command of those pitches, and I'm certain he's going to do that.

jbm · « **Reply #46 on:** May 14, 2012, 03:17:40 pm »

I hope he eventually improves his command, mainly on the fastball, as he does have special stuff and seems to have a good attitude. Haven't got to see him throw this year, but judging from the stats, I suspect he still has some of the same issues.

pots · « **Reply #47 on:** May 17, 2012, 08:38:44 am »

Quote from: AppyAstros on April 05, 2012, 12:25:50 pm

Corpus Roster rated #8 out of top 10 MILB rosters by BA to start the season:

Figures the Hooks are the only Astros minor league team to be below 500. More of a congrats to Lancaster and Lexington there though. Nice turn around on their seasons.

jbm · « **Reply #48 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:02:20 am »

Personally, I never understood that rating given to them at the beginning of the season. They are a good club with some talent for sure, but that roster has some holes. After seeing them, I'm not that surprised with their record.

Reuben · « **Reply #49 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:15:25 am »

Quote from: jbm on May 17, 2012, 09:02:20 am

Personally, I never understood that rating given to them at the beginning of the season. They are a good club with some talent for sure, but that roster has some holes. After seeing them, I'm not that surprised with their record.

From the BA article: This is in no way a prediction of which teams will win minor league titles this year. Instead, it's a look at which teams feature the most prospect star power, with particular weight being given to elite Top 100 Prospects.

I think they made the list because Singleton/Cosart/Villar/Oberholtzer are on the team, not due to its overall strength.

pots · « **Reply #50 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:00:00 am »

Quote from: Reuben on May 17, 2012, 09:15:25 am

From the BA article: This is in no way a prediction of which teams will win minor league titles this year. Instead, it's a look at which teams feature the most prospect star power, with particular weight being given to elite Top 100 Prospects.

I think they made the list because Singleton/Cosart/Villar/Oberholtzer are on the team, not due to its overall strength.

True but the comment for the team was this:

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It has been a long time since the Astros could assemble enough talent to fill a roster like this, but last year's trades have helped make up for the organization's minor league talent deficiency. 1B Jonathan Singleton (No. 34) and RHP Jarred Cosart (No. 50) both came over in last summer's Hunter Pence trade. Fellow Phillies' pickups SS Jonathan Villar ahd RHP Josh Zeid are joined by ex-Brave LHP Brett Oberholtzer on what may be the Astros' most talented minor league club in a decade.

Reuben · « **Reply #51 on:** May 17, 2012, 02:59:08 pm »

Quote from: pots on May 17, 2012, 10:00:00 am

True but the comment for the team was this:

Well, I take "talented" to be different from "successful" but they just about could be the most talented AND successful Astros farm club in years and still end up with a losing record... I can't think of a successful club from recent memory other than the Tri-City NYPL champs from 2010. And I don't know nearly enough to say if these Hooks are the most talented in that time.

moriartp · « **Reply #52 on:** May 17, 2012, 03:40:57 pm »

Singleton and Cosart alone give it more talent than just about any Astros farm team in recent memory. Villar, Oberholtzer, and Wates just add to that.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #53 on:** May 17, 2012, 03:49:25 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on May 17, 2012, 03:40:57 pm

Singleton and Cosart alone give it more talent than just about any Astros farm team in recent memory

Hmmmmmmmm. I can think of a JD Martinez/Altuve Corpus team. And a Lexington team. And I'd imagine one could add a name or two to either of those lists. Just sayin'...

juliogotay · « **Reply #54 on:** May 17, 2012, 07:49:47 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on May 17, 2012, 03:49:25 pm

Hmmmmmmmm. I can think of a JD Martinez/Altuve Corpus team. And a Lexington team. And I'd imagine one could add a name or two to either of those lists. Just sayin'...

THe "experts" never rated Martinez/Altuve that highly.

Duman · « **Reply #55 on:** May 17, 2012, 10:53:34 pm »

Not saying anything about where these prospects stack up with other groups (time will tell) but when thinking about best teams in recent Astros history -

Best team in my memory is the 06 Hooks that won the Texas League with Pence, Zobrist, Josh Anderson, Mitch Talbot, Troy Patton, Matt Albers, and Juan Guttierrez.

The other team that pops in my head is the 05 Legends - Pence, Towles, Zobrist, Drew Sutton, Patton, Guttierez, & Felipe Paulino.

By the end of 07, most of these guys had made their MLB debuts.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #56 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:23:12 pm »

Quote from: AppyAstros on May 17, 2012, 10:53:34 pm

Not saying anything about where these prospects stack up with other groups (time will tell) but when thinking about best teams in recent Astros history -

Best team in my memory is the 06 Hooks that won the Texas League with Pence, Zobrist, Josh Anderson, Mitch Talbot, Troy Patton, Matt Albers, and Juan Guttierrez.

The other team that pops in my head is the 05 Legends - Pence, Towles, Zobrist, Drew Sutton, Patton, Guttierez, & Felipe Paulino.

By the end of 07, most of these guys had made their MLB debuts.

2000 Express with Ginter, Ensberg, Porter, Maldonado, Oswalt, Ireland, Shearn, and a few others I do not recall off the top of my head was pretty good too.

austro · « **Reply #57 on:** May 18, 2012, 10:26:09 pm »

Quote from: VirtualBob on May 18, 2012, 10:23:12 pm

2000 Express with Ginter, Ensberg, Porter, Maldonado, Oswalt, Ireland, Shearn, and a few others I do not recall off the top of my head was pretty good too.

I can't believe we traded/released Ireland. If we'd just kept him, things would have been different.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #58 on:** May 19, 2012, 08:06:28 am »

Quote from: austro on May 18, 2012, 10:26:09 pm

I can't believe we traded/released Ireland. If we'd just kept him, things would have been different.

not biting.

But the team did very well that year.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #59 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:17:46 pm »

Wates HBP and lifted for a PR (catcher!!) ... hope it is just a precaution.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #60 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:21:10 pm »

Jose Martinez with 2 2B, 2 R and 2 RBI all in the 3rd inning tonight. Not bad.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #61 on:** May 24, 2012, 08:29:27 pm »

Quote from: VirtualBob on May 24, 2012, 08:21:10 pm

Jose Martinez with 2 2B, 2 R and 2 RBI all in the 3rd inning tonight. Not bad.

That's nothing. -Jonathan Singleton (2H, 2R, HR, 3 RBI in B3 / 3H, 3R, HR, 4 RBI through 3).

VirtualBob · « **Reply #62 on:** May 25, 2012, 11:42:00 am »

Quote from: VirtualBob on May 24, 2012, 08:17:46 pm

Wates HBP and lifted for a PR (catcher!!) ... hope it is just a precaution.

Just for clarification ... the box originally showed Jair Fernandez as the PR, but that has changed to TJ Steele this morning. Still no word on how serious the damage was to Wates.

Fynn · « **Reply #63 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:50:10 pm »

Jonathan Singleton with ANOTHER 2 HR game tonight w/5 RBI's. Both were opposite field dingers.

pots · « **Reply #64 on:** May 25, 2012, 08:56:04 pm »

Wates starting tonight.

Fynn · « **Reply #65 on:** May 25, 2012, 09:02:51 pm »

Quote from: pots on May 25, 2012, 08:56:04 pm

Wates starting tonight.

No obvious effects from yesterday-that guy can really turn it on. Love watching him play Left.
The stros have some difficult personnel decisions to make in the next few years.

jbm · « **Reply #66 on:** May 25, 2012, 09:08:02 pm »

Quote from: Fynn on May 25, 2012, 09:02:51 pm

No obvious effects from yesterday-that guy can really turn it on. Love watching him play Left.
The stros have some difficult personnel decisions to make in the next few years.

When I saw him, nothing much was hit his way. I know he moves well, but is he actually a good left fielder?

Singleton's homers seem to be hit all over the park this year. Nice to see.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #67 on:** May 26, 2012, 09:10:48 pm »

Quote from: Fynn on May 25, 2012, 08:50:10 pm

Jonathan Singleton with ANOTHER 2 HR game tonight w/5 RBI's. Both were opposite field dingers.

He's 2-4 through 7 innings tonight, but only 1 HR *yawn*.

jbm · « **Reply #68 on:** May 26, 2012, 09:44:39 pm »

Villar with the walk off. The guy has really picked it up lately. Hopefully, that potential scouts saw is starting to actualize.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #69 on:** May 27, 2012, 04:21:31 pm »

Been a long time in coming...

Rajan (via Twitter):

Two @cchooks moves: IF Brandon Wikoff added from extended spring training, OF T.J. Steele released.

jbm · « **Reply #70 on:** May 27, 2012, 04:31:39 pm »

Hmmm. I wonder who will fill center for the bulk of time? Will they go with Wates, possibly move Springer up, or is there some logical move I'm missing.

moriartp · « **Reply #71 on:** May 27, 2012, 04:48:32 pm »

Wates took CF today. Oberholtzer got hit around again. He seems to have great starts, terrible starts, and nothing in between.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #72 on:** May 29, 2012, 03:07:23 pm »

There has been a bit of movement over the long weekend ... Barnes to OKC (as noted elsewhere), Wikoff activated (and started yesterday at 3B), JC Thompson & TJ Steele released. Simunic was bumped off 3B to RF, but no idea whether that is a semi-permanent move. In any case, it still seems that the Hooks are one position player down, and the most likely candidates are currently in the OF in Lancaster or (possibly) one of the guys who has been rehabbing in EST (Hogue or Austin).

Anybody have any insider hints? Any progress update on the injury rehabs?

pots · « **Reply #73 on:** May 29, 2012, 08:20:57 pm »

Quote from: VirtualBob on May 29, 2012, 03:07:23 pm

JC Thompson

Is this the guy that got the big bonus to sign last year?

VirtualBob · « **Reply #74 on:** May 30, 2012, 06:57:57 am »

Quote from: pots on May 29, 2012, 08:20:57 pm

Is this the guy that got the big bonus to sign last year?

I do not recall the bonus ... he is a Cuban defector signed before the season last year.

pots · « **Reply #75 on:** May 30, 2012, 08:17:50 am »

Quote from: VirtualBob on May 30, 2012, 06:57:57 am

I do not recall the bonus ... he is a Cuban defector signed before the season last year.

Found it, $250,000 and an inviite to major league camp.

jbm · « **Reply #76 on:** May 30, 2012, 09:07:20 am »

Astros County has Bailey moving up to CC, with Hogue going to Lancaster.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #77 on:** May 30, 2012, 11:03:21 am »

Quote from: jbm on May 30, 2012, 09:07:20 am

Astros County has Bailey moving up to CC, with Hogue going to Lancaster.

Pretty much what I expected ... glad to have an official rumor of a report of a rumored confirmation. Ain't the web wunnerful?

geezerdonk · « **Reply #78 on:** May 30, 2012, 11:53:22 am »

Quote from: jbm on May 30, 2012, 09:07:20 am

Astros County has Bailey moving up to CC, with Hogue going to Lancaster.

Bailey hit .323 with CC last year. Why did he start this year at Lancaster?

VirtualBob · « **Reply #79 on:** May 30, 2012, 12:25:16 pm »

Quote from: geezerdonk on May 30, 2012, 11:53:22 am

Bailey hit .323 with CC last year. Why did he start this year at Lancaster?

More talent in the organization. And one last chance for Steele.

Reuben · « **Reply #80 on:** June 09, 2012, 09:18:13 am »

The Hooks won again last night, to bring them within a game of .500 (29-30). Jake Buchanan nearly frittered away an 8-0 lead, giving up 5 runs in 4.2 IP.

Jonathan Singleton has cooled off (.162/.311/.351 in his last 10 games, albeit with 2 HR and 7 scored). A worrying stat: he's killing RHP this year (.333/.452/.616) but has done very poorly vs. LHP (.203/.277/.356 with 21 K in 59 AB). The kid is still only 20 years old, so hopefully he can solve the Southpaw Mystery eventually...

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #81 on:** June 09, 2012, 02:17:32 pm »

Locke back with the Hooks (Levine via Twitter):

Sugar Land Skeeters also announce that OF Drew Locke has been re-signed by the Astros. He's headed to AA Corpus Christi.

pots · « **Reply #82 on:** June 11, 2012, 09:28:02 pm »

Singleton, who had been 2 for his last 24, had a good night: 2 for 3 with 2 doubles and a walk. Hopefully pulling himself out of the slump. He did walk 7 times during his slump though.

jbm · « **Reply #83 on:** June 11, 2012, 10:20:41 pm »

Cisnero in his last four starts, spanning 25 innings, has only walked 2 batters. Pretty damn good for any pitcher, but absolutely incredible for him. Hopefully something has clicked.

ETA. For perspective, in his previous 22.1 innings, spanning 6 starts, he walked 17.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #84 on:** June 11, 2012, 11:56:10 pm »

From last night.
‏
@GregRajan
Jon Singleton 0-4 with 3 Ks tonight. He's 9 for 52 (.173) during his @cchooks starts in left field. He hits .322 when he starts at 1B.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #85 on:** June 13, 2012, 03:51:14 pm »

Hooks Manager Keith Bodie talks player development. This is an interview posted over at The Crawfish Boxes by Jayne of the 'What The Heck, Bobby?' blog, and is worth a read. If you haven't had a chance to check out her blog, you might do so here and again - some pretty decent information over there!

Ron Brand · « **Reply #86 on:** June 13, 2012, 04:01:17 pm »

Peeling Lisa Gray off of the Crawfish Boxes means I can go to that site now. I hadn't looked at it since she'd been all over it, so that's a nice development IMO.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #87 on:** June 14, 2012, 01:39:37 pm »

Looks like Drew Locke is happy to be back with the club... LINK

With the bases loaded with one out in the eighth inning of a one-run ballgame, the 28-year-old hit a grand slam for the second straight night Wednesday to lift Double-A Corpus Christi to a 10-6 win over San Antonio. On Tuesday, Locke hit a slam in the seventh to break a 0-0 deadlock in the Hooks' 6-1 win.

Regarding the slam in the previous game: LINK

Drew Locke's 394-foot grand slam home run broke a scoreless deadlock in the seventh as Corpus Christi defeated San Antonio 6-1 Tuesday before 5,076 at Whataburger Field.

In his 5 games back with the Hooks, Locke is 8-21 with 3 HRs, 2B, 5 R, 12 RBI, BB, SO. I know, somewhat neither here nor there, but I'm glad to see him doing well with the club.

And BTW, the Hooks are currently 2nd in the division, trailing 1st-place Frisco by 4 with 6 games left in half (including 4 against Frisco).

pots · « **Reply #88 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:08:07 pm »

Singleton and Lee batting 3rd and 4th tonight. Something poetic there I think

ETA: First time through Singleton lines a base hit up the middle and Kabong!

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #89 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:29:40 pm »

Seven Hooks make the Texas League All-Star game (LINK):

Infielders Jose Martinez, Jon Singleton and Jonathan Villar, outfielder Austin Wates and pitchers Kevin Chapman, Brett Oberholtzer and Jason Stoffel have been selected to the Texas League South Division All-Star Team, announced today by league president Tom Kayser.

pots · « **Reply #90 on:** June 17, 2012, 09:18:43 am »

Quote from: jbm on June 11, 2012, 10:20:41 pm

Cisnero in his last four starts, spanning 25 innings, has only walked 2 batters. Pretty damn good for any pitcher, but absolutely incredible for him. Hopefully something has clicked.

ETA. For perspective, in his previous 22.1 innings, spanning 6 starts, he walked 17.

5 good start in a row now.

2-hit CG SH last night. Even survived a 9th inning 2 out error followed by a walk. Struck out the last batter with pitch 118. 2 walks on the night including the one that came real late.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #91 on:** June 17, 2012, 02:51:00 pm »

Quote from: pots on June 17, 2012, 09:18:43 am

5 good start in a row now.

2-hit CG SH last night. Even survived a 9th inning 2 out error followed by a walk. Struck out the last batter with pitch 118. 2 walks on the night including the one that came real late.

Here is the game story: LINK

Most importantly, Cisnero has walked only five batters in his last five starts after issuing 25 free passes in his first seven. A year ago at Class A Advanced Lancaster, he walked 75 while piling up 152 strikeouts over 123 1/3 innings.

jbm · « **Reply #92 on:** June 17, 2012, 03:25:01 pm »

To be anal, his stats only show 4 walks in those starts.

jbm · « **Reply #93 on:** June 20, 2012, 09:50:02 am »

I went to SA to see Cosart throw. I saw him last year, and just wanted to see if there was any improvement. Looking at his stats this year, I assumed there had been none. What I was hoping for was a smoother delivery, and the ability to throw his fastball for strikes and get ahead. He looked a lot smoother in warmups, but I was still suspicious.

Anyways, he looked so much better overall than the start I saw last year. Same velocity around 95-97 on the stadium gun. The fastball has some life, but doesn't get on batters as much as other 97 mph heaters. It might be that he is a short strider and releases it closer to the mound than most. However, he was throwing it for strikes and getting ahead. He needs to probably keep it down more, but still, big improvement. His curve and change are still real good, and occasionally very good.

He had a bit of trouble adjusting to the stretch, but eventually settled in. Pitched out of trouble his crappy defense created. The manager left him in to get out of a seventh inning jam in a scoreless game, which he did.

Overall, seemed very impressive to me. Just the kind of progress I had hoped for.

Villar with another careless throwing error, but then flashed the glove that must keep him on those prospect lists. Some pretty impressive plays.

Singleton came in to replace the rehabbing Buck. After a few ABs, he took a lead off walk in the 12th, got to second on another walk and was sent home on a roller through the infield with one out. He collided hard with the catcher to jar the ball loose and break the 0-0 score. Both him and the catcher were a little shaken, but didn't seem major. Nice effort by him. Some would have gone out easily.

Rag Arm · « **Reply #94 on:** June 20, 2012, 01:30:30 pm »

Thanks jbm, I was curious about his improvement.

Reuben · « **Reply #95 on:** June 20, 2012, 02:39:22 pm »

Me too. Thanks for the eye-witness report, jbm. Very encouraging.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #96 on:** June 20, 2012, 04:26:14 pm »

Quote from: jbm on June 20, 2012, 09:50:02 am

I went to SA to see Cosart throw. *** Overall, seemed very impressive to me. Just the kind of progress I had hoped for.

GOOD STUFF, THANK YOU! Here are Sickels comments from this morning on Cosart (LINK):

**A good start from Houston Astros prospect Jarred Cosart yesterday: seven shutout innings for Double-A Corpus Christi against San Antonio, allowing five hits and a walk, fanning eight. Overall he has a 4.00 ERA with a 53/29 K/BB in 63 innings, 67 hits allowed, and a 2.02 GO/AO. Cosart's premium stuff is the best in the system, but he still struggles with command and mechanical consistency at times. At his best he has three plus pitches (94-98 MPH sinker, plus curve, plus changeup) but his mechanical issues hamper his command. He turned 22 last month and although his performance has never quite matched his potential, he is still young enough to harness his talent and yesterday showed what can happen when everything is working.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #97 on:** June 20, 2012, 11:37:26 pm »

Seaton with another good start tonight: BOX SCORE

Line: 8.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R. 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 SO, 1 HR, 3.83 ERA (83 pitches / 59 strikes)

Reuben · « **Reply #98 on:** June 21, 2012, 12:34:25 pm »

Singleton named to the U.S. roster for the All-Star Futures Game. link

pots · « **Reply #99 on:** June 22, 2012, 09:18:06 am »

Quote

It's official: RHP Bobby Doran promoted to @cchooks from Lancaster to replace the OKC-bound Brett Oberholtzer.

http://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/215932884891078656

pots · « **Reply #100 on:** June 25, 2012, 11:35:57 am »

Apparantly Cosart feels he has figured things out a bit. Second strait start without yielding a run. This time a 4 hit, 2 BB 6 inning outing.

Article:

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http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120625&content_id=33889386&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

In a nut shell, he believes he was putting to much pressure on himself. At least his attitude sounds better then when they signed Galarraga instead of promoting a hook.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #101 on:** June 25, 2012, 12:59:38 pm »

It seems like Seaton is making some strides this season, but I don't recall reading a ton about it. Anyone have any thoughts/observations regarding his 2012 season at Corpus thusfar?!?

pots · « **Reply #102 on:** June 25, 2012, 03:30:48 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 25, 2012, 12:59:38 pm

It seems like Seaton is making some strides this season, but I don't recall reading a ton about it. Anyone have any thoughts/observations regarding his 2012 season at Corpus thusfar?!?

He just started to get some press in May and then had a couple of bad starts at the beginning of June that hushed the crowd.

It's in God's hands now:
http://whattheheckbobby.blogspot.com/2012/05/interview-with-rhp-ross-seaton.html

ETA:
This top 10 prospect list this year actually had him in it:
http://www.perfectgame.org/articles/View.aspx?article=6434

Quote

Understanding Seaton as a top prospect despite his basic minor league numbers requires putting things in perspective. To wit:

Seaton definitely has a prospect’s arm and age. He has a plus present fastball that regularly reaches the mid-90’s and a breaking ball that flashes plus potential. He pitched the entire 2011 season at age 21 in AA. If he had honored his commitment to Tulane out of high school instead of signing for $700K in the third round, he would have been a junior in the 2011 draft classes. College RHPs with his raw stuff get picked in the first round.

Seaton was a primary outfielder for much of his high school days and shot up the prospect lists during the spring of his senior season, when his fastball went from 88-90 to 92-95. He has a fresh arm and has never been injured.

If you are looking at his minor league performance, don’t underestimate the twin factors that a) Seaton, along with virtually every other Astros prospect, has been rushed at least a level beyond where most organizations would have placed him, and more importantly, b) his teams in 2010 and 2011 were simply awful, finishing a combined 72 games under .500, including Corpus Christi’s 50-90 mark in 2011. It’s hard to be a successful young pitcher in that environment.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #103 on:** June 25, 2012, 03:37:47 pm »

From that interview.

"All I will say about Lancaster is I never want to go back, ever. "

pots · « **Reply #104 on:** June 25, 2012, 04:08:50 pm »

Quote from: Navin R Johnson on June 25, 2012, 03:37:47 pm

From that interview.

"All I will say about Lancaster is I never want to go back, ever. "

he had been to hell first

Reuben · « **Reply #105 on:** June 25, 2012, 04:15:35 pm »

Quote from: pots on June 25, 2012, 03:30:48 pm

He just started to get some press in May and then had a couple of bad starts at the beginning of June that hushed the crowd.

It's in God's hands now:
http://whattheheckbobby.blogspot.com/2012/05/interview-with-rhp-ross-seaton.html

Thanks for posting that. Nice to see the praise he had for Jose Martinez. Corpus has been good to both of them this year.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #106 on:** June 25, 2012, 04:48:55 pm »

Quote from: pots on June 25, 2012, 03:30:48 pm

This top 10 prospect list this year actually had him in it:
http://www.perfectgame.org/articles/View.aspx?article=6434

Understanding Seaton as a top prospect despite his basic minor league numbers requires putting things in perspective. To wit:

Seaton definitely has a prospect’s arm and age. He has a plus present fastball that regularly reaches the mid-90’s and a breaking ball that flashes plus potential. He pitched the entire 2011 season at age 21 in AA. If he had honored his commitment to Tulane out of high school instead of signing for $700K in the third round, he would have been a junior in the 2011 draft classes. College RHPs with his raw stuff get picked in the first round.

Seaton was a primary outfielder for much of his high school days and shot up the prospect lists during the spring of his senior season, when his fastball went from 88-90 to 92-95. He has a fresh arm and has never been injured.

If you are looking at his minor league performance, don’t underestimate the twin factors that a) Seaton, along with virtually every other Astros prospect, has been rushed at least a level beyond where most organizations would have placed him, and more importantly, b) his teams in 2010 and 2011 were simply awful, finishing a combined 72 games under .500, including Corpus Christi’s 50-90 mark in 2011. It’s hard to be a successful young pitcher in that environment.

This is the reference that I was trying to place in the ole' noggin'... Thanks!

jbm · « **Reply #107 on:** June 25, 2012, 04:58:59 pm »

I'm not down on Seaton at all, but I'd be hesitant about the "He throws mid nineties and flashes a plus breaking ball info." After watching numerous games over the years, I rarely believe anything I read any more about prospects. Most of it just seems like it is fifteenth hand repeated info, and bad info at that. Seems like every young arm throws 95 with plus this or plus plus that. Shit, if that were true, we'd be watching them in the majors.

Seaton was hardly throwing mid nineties when I saw him at the end of last year. Is it possible that I caught him at a park with a slow gun, or he just didn't have his velocity? Sure it is, but it is more likely that this is just more hyperbolic info.

pots · « **Reply #108 on:** June 25, 2012, 05:02:46 pm »

Quote from: jbm on June 25, 2012, 04:58:59 pm

I'm not down on Seaton at all, but I'd be hesitant about the "He throws mid nineties and flashes a plus breaking ball info." After watching numerous games over the years, I rarely believe anything I read any more about prospects. Most of it just seems like it is fifteenth hand repeated info, and bad info at that. Seems like every young arm throws 95 with plus this or plus plus that. Shit, if that were true, we'd be watching them in the majors.

Seaton was hardly throwing mid nineties when I saw him at the end of last year. Is it possible that I caught him at a park with a slow gun, or he just didn't have his velocity? Sure it is, but it is more likely that this is just more hyperbolic info.

Yeah, I think he can "reach" the mid 90's but generally sits in the low 90's

jbm · « **Reply #109 on:** June 25, 2012, 05:23:46 pm »

He was throwing 87-90 when I saw him last year, but I'd believe that low 90s is possible.

BTW. My screed wasn't against PG, just internet reporting in general. In fact, I was impressed by PG keeping Seaton in their rankings, after most of the "analysts" bailed while focusing solely on stats.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #110 on:** June 28, 2012, 01:33:37 am »

NINE, Count them, NINE Hooks were selected to the Texas League All Star game (Ragan/Caller-Times LINK):

Seven Hooks players — first baseman Jon Singleton, second baseman Jose Martinez, shortstop Jonathan Villar and pitchers Kevin Chapman, Jarred Cosart, Ross Seaton and Jason Stoffel will be on the South Division team.

Two other players, outfielder Austin Wates and pitcher Brett Oberholtzer, were named to the South team, but won't play. Wates, who was to join Singleton and Martinez in the starting lineup, is out with a quadriceps injury. Oberholtzer, meanwhile, was promoted to Triple-A Oklahoma City last week.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #111 on:** June 29, 2012, 08:19:37 am »

Hooks in action at the All-Star Game:

Martinez: 0-4 playing the entire game at 2B
Villar: 0-1 as a PH/SS
Singleton: 0-1 with a walk as a LF
Cosart: 1 perfect inning with a K
Stoffel: 1 inning 1 single allowed
Chapman: 1 inning 1 single allowed

And the goat of the game...
Season: 1 IP 2 doubles, a HR, and the loss as the North wins a pitchers duel 3-1.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #112 on:** July 03, 2012, 01:30:27 am »

Villar went 2-5 tonight with a walk-off 2-run HR. Singleton was a 3B shy of the cycle, going 3-4 with 2 R and 2 RBI. Caller-Times LINK

jbm · « **Reply #113 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:06:18 am »

Villar seems like he is starting to turn a corner. I've seen him mainly when he has looked terrible, and focused on that rather than the talent he possesses. Hopefully, the talent is starting to blossom.

That last game I saw, him and Martinez are quite the DP combo, and while he wasn't impressive at the plate, he didn't look lost. I see this year he is hitting right handed better than left handed. I think that is new, but don't know where to find that data.

juliogotay · « **Reply #114 on:** July 04, 2012, 11:41:59 am »

Matt Hicks, the capable play-by-play man for the Hooks as joined the Rangers for possibly the remainder of the season as a replacement for Dave Barnett that had that mysterious, still undiagnosed, meltdown a couple of weeks ago on the air. I thought Hicks could make a good replacement in the Astros radio booth next year for Milo and/or DoRay. If Barnett doesn't return next year I'm sure he'll be off-the-table. BTW, Dave Barnett is a good guy, a true professional. I hope they get it figured out and he gets back to work.

jbm · « **Reply #115 on:** July 04, 2012, 05:26:39 pm »

I'm looking at the chron and they have that box with all the tweets. Anyways, one from Cosart pops up and says:

Quote

Promotion and demotions must not be based on performance at all times. Keep doing work dallas

I like this dude, but he appears to have rocks for brains. Most obviously, don't publicly question the decisions of your employer. In fact, a good policy is to never publicly comment on these things, bad or good. Secondly, everyone already knows it is not a "demotion," but a temporary move to bring up arms to hopefully help a beleaguered pen, so the dig doesn't even make any sense.

Reuben · « **Reply #116 on:** July 04, 2012, 05:33:37 pm »

Quote from: jbm on July 04, 2012, 05:26:39 pm

I'm looking at the chron and they have that box with all the tweets. Anyways, one from Cosart pops up and says:

I like this dude, but he appears to have rocks for brains. Most obviously, don't publicly question the decisions of your employer. In fact, a good policy is to never publicly comment on these things, bad or good. Secondly, everyone already knows it is not a "demotion," but a temporary move to bring up arms to hopefully help a beleaguered pen, so the dig doesn't even make any sense.

Yeah, he really comes off as a grade-A dumbass/hothead in his tweets. It's cool that he's trying to support his buddy Keuchel, but that is a really bad way to publicly comment about it.

roadrunner · « **Reply #117 on:** July 04, 2012, 05:36:35 pm »

Yeah I follow him and am tempted to unfollow him just because I don't want to know he's a dumbass yet. Still have faith.

jbm · « **Reply #118 on:** July 04, 2012, 06:49:10 pm »

Now this:

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@drewligans haha thanks for your concern. They could've sent two other deserving candidates down instead of Keuchel

OK, I take it back, the guy appears to be more than an idiot. He seems like a prick.

One guy he refers to must be Lyles, I assume. Earlier, Lyles pitched well against KC, and I remember seeing a tweet from Cosart saying how KC was the worst hitting team in MLB. I suspected it was a diss at Lyles, but gave him the benefit of the doubt and just thought he was extremely stupid for commenting like that. Now, I realize it was a diss at Lyles. The guy is both stupid and bitter.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #119 on:** July 04, 2012, 10:54:25 pm »

Keuchel needs to tell him to shut up and grow up.

MusicMan · « **Reply #120 on:** July 05, 2012, 09:32:23 am »

The words "Tim Redding" are starting to seem more and more applicable. Anyone think Timmah wouldn't have done similar things with Twitter?

BudGirl · « **Reply #121 on:** July 05, 2012, 10:00:43 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 05, 2012, 09:32:23 am

The words "Tim Redding" are starting to seem more and more applicable. Anyone think Timmah wouldn't have done similar things with Twitter?

Twitter would have logged him out before he finished typing 140 characters.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #122 on:** July 05, 2012, 10:08:16 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on July 05, 2012, 09:32:23 am

The words "Tim Redding" are starting to seem more and more applicable. Anyone think Timmah wouldn't have done similar things with Twitter?

Possibly. But Redding was a caustic teammate. I find it unlikely he would have defended a former pitching teammate. He was most certainly out for himself.

jbm · « **Reply #123 on:** July 05, 2012, 10:20:11 am »

I'm not sure that was as much as a "defense of a teammate" tweet as it was a "the org promotions/demotions suck, otherwise I'd be kicking ass at higher levels" tweet. I wonder if him and Kuechel are even close. Kuechel should be on the phone to Luhnow saying "Hey, this guy doesn't speak for me."

He comes across as someone who can't be trusted, and would stab you in the back for his own advancement. Not the kind of guy you want in your office or on your team. Hopefully, that is just my mistaken impression, and he is instead trusted by his teammates.

moriartp · « **Reply #124 on:** July 06, 2012, 09:28:03 am »

FWIW, I remember Keuchel tweeting a complaint about not having been promoted when he was back in Lancaster.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #125 on:** July 06, 2012, 10:03:16 am »

Quote from: moriartp on July 06, 2012, 09:28:03 am

FWIW, I remember Keuchel tweeting a complaint about not having been promoted when he was back in Lancaster.

Yeah, something about not doing what they said they were going to do or something.

FWIW, these are kids spouting off in a 'no-takebacks kinda world' (youtube, twitter, facebook, etc.). I don't *mind* it here and again, and liked some of the 'fire' that Cosart had shown via Twitter when he was traded to the 'Stros, but dude needs to seriously have his 'good idea/bad idea switch' checked out before he posts much more on Twitter...

jbm · « **Reply #126 on:** July 06, 2012, 10:20:01 am »

Yeah, most people say stupid shit during their lives but either learn to keep their mouth shut in general or at least back off after they have said something questionable. The problem with Cosart is that he doesn't seem to learn to keep his mouth shut which is understandable to some degree as it might be a reflexive habit or just his nature. We all have trouble with that. What I can't understand however, is him doubling, tripling and quadrupling down on his dumb shit. That means he is either incapable of modulating his behaviour or completely lacking the judgement to realize it is dumb shit.

Duman · « **Reply #127 on:** July 06, 2012, 10:38:15 am »

The astros have great big signs in the Greeneville club house with guidelines for social media (mainly twitter) use. the players know what is expected.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #128 on:** July 06, 2012, 12:31:54 pm »

Cosart on the DL with blister issues. Burned his fingers during his 'scathing' Twittering perhaps?!?

roadrunner · « **Reply #129 on:** July 06, 2012, 12:39:30 pm »

On top of all of this, it's pretty obvious that Cosart's frustrated with his performance and blister issues.

juliogotay · « **Reply #130 on:** July 06, 2012, 01:09:52 pm »

Quote from: roadrunner on July 06, 2012, 12:39:30 pm

On top of all of this, it's pretty obvious that Cosart's frustrated with his performance and blister issues.

His performance, recently, has been fine. He's not dominating, like you may expect with that talent, but he's been solid.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #131 on:** July 06, 2012, 10:06:22 pm »

Terrific job by Seaton tonight: 8 1/3 3 H 0 R 2 BB 8 K. He had a no-hitter through 5 1/3 and a 1-hitter through 8 1/3 before giving up back-back hits. All three hits given up were singles. He was at 91 pitches entering the 9th, so it looked like he was going to get a CG, but he hit a little bit of a wall at the end.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #132 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:06:18 am »

Singleton to start at 1st for Team USA in the Futures game today.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #133 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:09:21 am »

FYI, the game is on ESPN2 at 4PM CST.

Reuben · « **Reply #134 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:22:51 am »

Jose Martinez returned (as DH) after a 5-day knee issue, and went 3-for-5 with a triple and 5 RBI. Villar went 0-for2 with 3 BB, 2 SB, 2 R.

Navin R Johnson · « **Reply #135 on:** July 08, 2012, 06:24:49 pm »

Singleton is 3-3 (all singles) with a walk and an RBI and 2 runs scored. He stated at 1st but is now playing LF.

hostros7 · « **Reply #136 on:** July 14, 2012, 04:18:33 pm »

Per Levine: Villarreal out six weeks with broken hand after punching wall between innings

Reuben · « **Reply #137 on:** July 14, 2012, 04:19:09 pm »

Well, this isn't good, on a couple of levels: Villar will be out for 6 weeks, according to tweets from the astros and Levine, who adds that he broke his hand punching a door during the Hooks game last night.

Reuben · « **Reply #138 on:** July 14, 2012, 04:20:25 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on July 14, 2012, 04:18:33 pm

Per Levine: Villarreal out six weeks with broken hand after punching wall between innings

Damn, you beat me, though I did get the spelling and the architectural element correct.

hostros7 · « **Reply #139 on:** July 14, 2012, 04:35:12 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on July 14, 2012, 04:20:25 pm

Damn, you beat me, though I did get the spelling and the architectural element correct.

Fucking iPads. You win. See, it fixes"iPad" correctly but changes "villar" to "villareal"

Reuben · « **Reply #140 on:** July 14, 2012, 04:57:13 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on July 14, 2012, 04:35:12 pm

Fucking iPads. You win. See, it fixes"iPad" correctly but changes "villar" to "villareal"

Your iPad just has such fond memories of Oscar Villareal's Astros tenure...

jbm · « **Reply #141 on:** July 14, 2012, 05:14:41 pm »

Henry or Jonathan?

jbm · « **Reply #142 on:** July 14, 2012, 05:18:29 pm »

Nevermind. I see it was Jonathan. Kind of surprising. Never seemed like a wall puncher to me.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #143 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:04:33 am »

Quote from: jbm on July 14, 2012, 05:18:29 pm

Nevermind. I see it was Jonathan. Kind of surprising. Never seemed like a wall puncher to me.

And with Lowrie's leg injury, this may have cost him a cup of coffee. How far is Marwin Gonzalez from a return?

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #144 on:** July 15, 2012, 10:17:58 pm »

Cosart went 5.2 allowing 1 H but 4 walks (and 2 runs) and getting 5 SO. Wates went 3-5 with a HR and 2 RBI and Singleton went 1-3 with 2 RBI. BOX SCORE

jbm · « **Reply #145 on:** July 15, 2012, 10:26:49 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 15, 2012, 10:17:58 pm

Cosart went 5.2 allowing 1 H but 4 walks (and 2 runs) and getting 5 SO. Wates went 3-5 with a HR and 2 RBI and Singleton went 1-3 with 2 RBI. BOX SCORE

Nice to see Wates adding a little heft to his stroke. Hope it's a trend and not a blip.

juliogotay · « **Reply #146 on:** July 16, 2012, 07:06:56 am »

With Perez called up recently, Buckel is perhaps the Rangers top pitching prospect that the Hooks bested yesterday.

Fynn · « **Reply #147 on:** July 17, 2012, 08:44:49 pm »

I see that Ben Orloff has been called up from Lancaster to play SS. Good luck to him.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #148 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:35:56 pm »

Quote from: Fynn on July 17, 2012, 08:44:49 pm

I see that Ben Orloff has been called up from Lancaster to play SS. Good luck to him.

I've always liked what I've read about that kid, and wish him much luck as well!

Reuben · « **Reply #149 on:** July 18, 2012, 07:19:19 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 18, 2012, 12:35:56 pm

I've always liked what I've read about that kid, and wish him much luck as well!

This might mean a reunion of the two middle-infield "Offs", once Brandon Wikoff comes off the 7-day DL. I see he's had a rough year after posting a nice .308/.398/.353 at CC last year... anyone know what's up? Only played in 22 games this year and he's hitting .190.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #150 on:** July 18, 2012, 07:20:03 pm »

Quote from: Fynn on July 17, 2012, 08:44:49 pm

I see that Ben Orloff has been called up from Lancaster to play SS. Good luck to him.

I just hope that he doesn't get hurt, either on the field or in the dugout/club house (dumbass Villar). All of the organization's SS's seem to be snakebit with injuries right now.

austro · « **Reply #151 on:** July 18, 2012, 07:44:30 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 18, 2012, 07:20:03 pm

All of the organization's SS's seem to be snakebit with injuries right now.

I don't think you can categorize "hitting a door" as "snakebit".

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #152 on:** July 18, 2012, 09:26:04 pm »

Seaton with possibly the box score of the season in the opening game of today's double-header: 6 IP (CG) 15 H 5 ER/R 2 BB 4 K over 89 pitches.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #153 on:** July 19, 2012, 03:52:50 am »

Quote from: austro on July 18, 2012, 07:44:30 pm

I don't think you can categorize "hitting a door" as "snakebit".

Very true.

Andyzipp · « **Reply #154 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:27:57 am »

Quote from: austro on July 18, 2012, 07:44:30 pm

I don't think you can categorize "hitting a door" as "snakebit".

The snakebite was in his brain area.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #155 on:** July 19, 2012, 12:10:19 pm »

Quote from: Andyzipp on July 19, 2012, 10:27:57 am

The snakebite was in his brain area.

Must have been a very persistent snake.

Reuben · « **Reply #156 on:** July 19, 2012, 01:26:16 pm »

Quote from: Andyzipp on July 19, 2012, 10:27:57 am

The snakebite was in his brain area.

Exactly. One should only ever punch flimsy doors*. Never the ones that can break one's hand.

*not counting sliding glass doors

moriartp · « **Reply #157 on:** July 19, 2012, 01:41:47 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on July 19, 2012, 01:26:16 pm

*not counting sliding glass doors

Yes, one must charge head-first into those.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #158 on:** July 20, 2012, 11:56:05 am »

I was going to post this without copying and pasting Levine's tweet, but didn't feel like fighting the spelling:

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Asher Wojciechowski will move up from high A to Class AA (Corpus Christi) in the Astros organization.

I look forward to a rotation with him and Foltynewicz.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #159 on:** July 21, 2012, 12:44:55 pm »

Quote from: astrosfan76 on July 20, 2012, 11:56:05 am

I look forward to a rotation with [Wojciechowski] and Foltynewicz.

Who, Woji and Folty? [/Milo'd-it]

pots · « **Reply #160 on:** July 21, 2012, 03:58:53 pm »

Seaton
Buchanan
Cisnero
Cosart
Rasmussen
Woji
Heidenreich

They were saying yesterday that weren't ready for a decision on what to do with the 6 starters, well add 1 to that

Reuben · « **Reply #161 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:20:50 pm »

Quote from: pots on July 21, 2012, 03:58:53 pm

Seaton
Buchanan
Cisnero
Cosart
Rasmussen
Wojciechowski
Heidenreich

Looks like the roster for a hockey team.

pots · « **Reply #162 on:** July 22, 2012, 06:27:24 am »

Quote from: pots on July 21, 2012, 03:58:53 pm

Seaton
Buchanan
Cisnero
Cosart
Rasmussen
Woji
Heidenreich

They were saying yesterday that weren't ready for a decision on what to do with the 6 starters, well add 1 to that

And then there were 6: http://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/226878945553952769

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Per high-ranking sources, Asher Wojciechowski will start Tuesday in San Antonio for @cchooks , with Jake Buchanan moving to bullpen.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #163 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:48:49 am »

Quote from: pots on July 22, 2012, 06:27:24 am

And then there were 6: http://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/226878945553952769

That was only a matter of time for Buchanan.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #164 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:52:41 pm »

Cisnero with his (and the Hooks) second 9-inning complete game of the season (BOX SCORE). His line: 9.0 IP, 5 H, R/ER, 0 BB, 7 SO, 0 HR, ERA 3.49. The previous 4 or 5 games he'd gotten back into his old walk habit, but turned it around for tonight (for this game anyway). Overall, he has 116 SO / 46 BB in 108.2 IP (66 SO to 20 BB in his last 10 games/ 66.2 IP with a .207 BAA).

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #165 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:12:49 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 22, 2012, 08:52:41 pm

Cisnero with his (and the Hooks) second 9-inning complete game of the season (BOX SCORE). His line: 9.0 IP, 5 H, R/ER, 0 BB, 7 SO, 0 HR, ERA 3.49. The previous 4 or 5 games he'd gotten back into his old walk habit, but turned it around for tonight (for this game anyway). Overall, he has 116 SO / 46 BB in 108.2 IP (66 SO to 20 BB in his last 10 games/ 66.2 IP with a .207 BAA).

It looks like that kid has mastered AA. It's probably time for him to face some older competition in AAA, not that the hitters are more talented (because they're probably not), but on the whole, they are smarter and will make a pitcher work harder.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #166 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:22:39 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 22, 2012, 10:12:49 pm

It looks like that kid has mastered AA. It's probably time for him to face some older competition in AAA, not that the hitters are more talented (because they're probably not), but on the whole, they are smarter and will make a pitcher work harder.

Ya know... I'm typically all for moving kids up and challenging them, but in Cisnero's case I think developing 'consistency' is more important that facing new challenges. Take a look at the game logs from his starts last season, and see if you'd agree.

juliogotay · « **Reply #167 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:00:00 am »

He has certainly come a ways since I saw him in April and would have been all for releasing him that day. No command whatsoever that day. Didn't get out of the 3rd inning against Frisco.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #168 on:** July 23, 2012, 10:56:52 am »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 22, 2012, 10:22:39 pm

Ya know... I'm typically all for moving kids up and challenging them, but in Cisnero's case I think developing 'consistency' is more important that facing new challenges. Take a look at the game logs from his starts last season, and see if you'd agree.

I do agree.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #169 on:** July 23, 2012, 12:24:15 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 22, 2012, 10:22:39 pm

Ya know... I'm typically all for moving kids up and challenging them, but in Cisnero's case I think developing 'consistency' is more important that facing new challenges. Take a look at the game logs from his starts last season, and see if you'd agree.

You're probably right. He's only got nine "quality starts" (I generally hate this stat because it doesn't measure competitiveness at all) out of 20 starts, so he probably should stay down there all season. However, he's been pretty good lately.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #170 on:** July 23, 2012, 02:41:05 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 23, 2012, 12:24:15 pm

However, he's been pretty good lately.

Something certainly appears to have 'clicked' with him. I hope it continues!

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #171 on:** July 25, 2012, 08:01:28 am »

Asher with a good debut as an Astro, giving up 1 run over 7 innings, walking 3 and giving up 3 singles and striking out 6.

pots · « **Reply #172 on:** July 25, 2012, 09:01:41 am »

Adam Bailey
Jake Goebbert
Robbie Grossman
Drew Locke
Drew Muren
Austin Wates

If Wates isn't going on the 7 day DL somebody is out. Maybe Muren demoted to Lancaster (he has been real cold at the plate lately). Of course in Augiust, OKC will have at least Barnes spot available if not F Mart's as well. But also you expect Springer to be here in August.

Reuben · « **Reply #173 on:** July 25, 2012, 09:05:12 am »

Are any of those 6 really prospects besides Wates and Grossman? Maybe Goebbert in the loosest sense of the word?

jbm · « **Reply #174 on:** July 25, 2012, 09:09:19 am »

Quote from: pots on July 25, 2012, 09:01:41 am

Adam Bailey
Jake Goebbert
Robbie Grossman
Drew Locke
Drew Muren
Austin Wates

If Wates isn't going on the 7 day DL somebody is out. Maybe Muren demoted to Lancaster (he has been real cold at the plate lately). Of course in Augiust, OKC will have at least Barnes spot available if not F Mart's as well. But also you expect Springer to be here in August.

Was there another Luhnow memo I missed? Why is Springer to CC a given?

pots · « **Reply #175 on:** July 25, 2012, 09:37:23 am »

Quote from: jbm on July 25, 2012, 09:09:19 am

Was there another Luhnow memo I missed? Why is Springer to CC a given?

I don't have a link, but it was stated that he would be promoted this year (as well as DeShields and I think Singleton). I'd expect this to be beginning of August when all the shifts are made (along with the major league club)

ETA
Shouldn't have said stated. It was not directly said specifically Springer would be promoted in early August. But it seems to be something that can be inferred. It has been stated that moves will be made in early August and Springer has been listed among players that may warant a move.

moriartp · « **Reply #176 on:** July 25, 2012, 06:44:57 pm »

via Greg Rajan: Buchanan, Cosart, and Cisnero up to OKC. Clemens down to CC.

The Seeker · « **Reply #177 on:** July 26, 2012, 11:20:51 pm »

Hooks Win 3-2 over Missions

The new acquisitions:

Grossman 2-4 2B 1BB 1R
Heidenreich 8IP 1ER 5H 1BB 7K [W]

Reuben · « **Reply #178 on:** July 30, 2012, 10:35:20 am »

Tags with a piece focusing on Singleton and Cosart. Nice to see these quotes from the Hooks' manager:

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Bodie raves just as much about Singleton's defense. ...
"He could be a Gold Glove first baseman," said Bodie, a former manager in the Giants organization. "I haven't seen a first baseman like him since J.T. Snow."

Amidst the addition to the system of so many glove-challenged types (Borchering, F-Mart, et al), and weird positional deployments (Wallace, Maxwell etc.), it's nice to note that several of the top prospects are actually supposed to be very good defensive players as well (Springer, Villar, Correa, Dominguez, Singleton,...?).

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #179 on:** July 30, 2012, 11:04:07 am »

The snippet on Cosart throwing lower and the resulting uptick in groundballs was encouring, also. I read something on BA about that recently (Hot Sheet?), so it was nice to see that somewhere else.

tlott33 · « **Reply #180 on:** July 30, 2012, 04:40:48 pm »

So the new guy Mark Krauss is labeled on the roster as on the Reserve List.

Anyone know why? Or what it means?

Reuben · « **Reply #181 on:** July 31, 2012, 10:30:59 am »

Rob Rasmussen (Lee/Marlins trade) with his first really good start for Corpus last night- 7.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K. Borchering (CJ/Dbacks trade) was 1 for 3 with an RBI, a BB, 2 K, and a SB.

Hooks win 3-2. Singleton 3 for 4 with a double, and has now hit .337/.432/.543 in July, bouncing back from a wretched June where he hit .148. Looks like his numbers vs. LHP's have improved a bit as well.

Stoffel got his 20th save, and now has a 1.87 ERA. Time for a promotion?

juliogotay · « **Reply #182 on:** July 31, 2012, 10:34:54 am »

Singleton may be a really good baseball player. I didn't realize his defensive skills until I read the Brodie quote the other day. His OBP is very good.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #183 on:** July 31, 2012, 11:40:53 am »

Quote from: juliogotay on July 31, 2012, 10:34:54 am

Singleton may be a really good baseball player. I didn't realize his defensive skills until I read the Brodie quote the other day. His OBP is very good.

He gets very high marks for his plate discipline and strike-zone knowledge, so the OBP should remain good as he moves up. I'm looking forward to seeing him play every night with the Astros (until I have to go to bed after the 4th inning).

VirtualBob · « **Reply #184 on:** August 01, 2012, 09:37:45 am »

Quote from: tlott33 on July 30, 2012, 04:40:48 pm

So the new guy Mark Krauss is labeled on the roster as on the Reserve List.

Anyone know why? Or what it means?

It means he has extra time to report and/or they need time to clear a roster spot for him. You may have noticed several times that guys have gone "inactive" for a day or two at a time. I do not know the specific rules, but it is not uncommon.

roadrunner · « **Reply #185 on:** August 01, 2012, 10:25:02 pm »

Krauss with 2 bombs in 2 games

moriartp · « **Reply #186 on:** August 03, 2012, 06:54:10 pm »

Seaton promoted to OKC, Bobby Doran back up to Corpus to take his place (@gregrajan). Seaton made one AAA start earlier this year and got lit up, but hopefully things go better this time around.

Reuben · « **Reply #187 on:** August 04, 2012, 09:25:54 am »

Wojalphabet last night: 5.1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K.

Borchering 2-for-4 with a double, 2 RBI. Krauss did not homer, what a disappointment.

The Hooks blew a 3-run lead in the 9th on a 3-R inside-the-parker: "Stoffel jumped ahead with a first-pitch strike but Gil, who had not hit a round-tripper all year, lined the second offering into the right-field alley. Drew Locke, running at full speed to his right, dove but got burned. The ball rolled all the way to the wall and Gil raced around the bases for the first inside-the-park home run against the Hooks in their eight-year history."

Lost it in the 10th, 6-5, but they still lead the division by 5 games.

moriartp · « **Reply #188 on:** August 04, 2012, 11:12:39 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on August 04, 2012, 09:25:54 am

Borchering 2-for-4 with a double, 2 RBI. Krauss did not homer, what a disappointment.

Well, he homered again tonight as Corpus put up 17 runs against Midland. Borchering went yard twice and doubled on his way to going 4-5 (Martinez also had four hits), and Grossman drew three walks. It was a hell of a night for the Hooks at the plate.

Reuben · « **Reply #189 on:** August 04, 2012, 11:22:36 pm »

Quote from: moriartp on August 04, 2012, 11:12:39 pm

Well, he homered again tonight as Corpus put up 17 runs against Midland. Borchering went yard twice and doubled on his way to going 4-5 (Martinez also had four hits), and Grossman drew three walks. It was a hell of a night for the Hooks at the plate.

They've got some firepower in that lineup now, that's for sure.

I wonder if Jose Martinez will get moved up to OKC? He's 26, having a great year, and no longer blocked, with Paredes playing OF.

hostros7 · « **Reply #190 on:** August 09, 2012, 03:45:05 pm »

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Greg Rajan ‏@GregRajan

Per his alma mater @uconnbaseball, OF George Springer has been promoted to #cchooks. Clubhouse closed right now, will try to verify soon.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #191 on:** August 09, 2012, 03:48:40 pm »

Rajan, via Twitter:

Greg Rajan ‏@GregRajan
#cchooks manager Keith Bodie confirmed George Springer is on his way here, will play CF if he gets here in time tonight.

Reuben · « **Reply #192 on:** August 09, 2012, 04:32:08 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on August 09, 2012, 03:48:40 pm

Rajan, via Twitter:

Greg Rajan ‏@GregRajan
#cchooks manager Keith Bodie confirmed George Springer is on his way here, will play CF if he gets here in time tonight.

Man, that 2014 Astros OF with Springer in center and Grossman at rover is gonna kick ass. Or wait... is Paredes gonna play rover? I'm not sure I understand the plan.

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #193 on:** August 09, 2012, 05:01:15 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on August 09, 2012, 04:32:08 pm

Man, that 2014 Astros OF with Springer in center and Grossman at rover is gonna kick ass. Or wait... is Paredes gonna play rover? I'm not sure I understand the plan.

Springer has an adequate arm for RF, if necessary.

Matt · « **Reply #194 on:** August 09, 2012, 05:56:13 pm »

Quote from: astrosfan76 on August 09, 2012, 05:01:15 pm

Springer has an adequate arm for RF, if necessary.

How's Paredes' arm?

Reuben · « **Reply #195 on:** August 09, 2012, 06:13:07 pm »

Quote from: astrosfan76 on August 09, 2012, 05:01:15 pm

Springer has an adequate arm for RF, if necessary.

Fuck that, kid was just named the best defensive OF in the CAL league by BA. I think you stick him in center and go from there.

Ebby Calvin · « **Reply #196 on:** August 09, 2012, 08:06:19 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on August 09, 2012, 04:32:08 pm

Man, that 2014 Astros OF with Springer in center and Grossman at rover is gonna kick ass. Or wait... is Paredes gonna play rover? I'm not sure I understand the plan.

So what's the word on Grossman thus far? Good? Bad?

astrosfan76 · « **Reply #197 on:** August 09, 2012, 08:08:20 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on August 09, 2012, 06:13:07 pm

Fuck that, kid was just named the best defensive OF in the CAL league by BA. I think you stick him in center and go from there.

Okay, but does he have experience playing 3B, 2B, and SS? Didn't think so.

austro · « **Reply #198 on:** August 09, 2012, 08:09:28 pm »

Quote from: astrosfan76 on August 09, 2012, 08:08:20 pm

Okay, but does he have experience playing 3B, 2B, and SS? Didn't think so.

I imagine that he can rush in from 3B and dive in front of people as well as anybody else on this team.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #199 on:** August 09, 2012, 08:30:33 pm »

Quote from: austro on August 09, 2012, 08:09:28 pm

I imagine that he can rush in from 3B and dive in front of people as well as anybody else on this team.

Yeah, but getting more air will help get on SportsCenter.