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« on: March 24, 2012, 06:47:41 am »
Topic is Redhawks Baseball 2012 - Talk amoungst yourselves
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 05:22:03 pm »
So who's on first here?  I don't know has got third covered three times over.  Maybe Hinze gets the call up?  Or maybe one of the OF corps moves to 1B??
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 09:08:38 pm »
Moore & Hessman have both played some 1b.  But not as much as they have played 3B. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 10:05:10 am »
Redhawks looking good

Lyles, Clemens, Kuech, Sosa and Perez/Anuery in the rotation

Abreu, Del Rosario, Valdez, Xavier Cedeno, and Perez/Anuery in the pen

Plus 5 starting position players who played in the majors last year of ages 23, 23, 24,25, and 28 (still young).




 

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 10:41:20 am »
Also wondering what happened to Angel Sanchez ... I do not see him on the roster ... was he claimed on waivers or something?
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 10:42:37 am »
Good point, make that 6 (if he is still here).  (He played in Tuesday game against the Whitesox)
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 08:19:19 am »
Wow, don't think I've seen that before.  Wallace 0 for 5 with 10 LOB.   Capped it off bueatifully by a bases loaded GIDP to end the game and lose by 1.

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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 09:50:38 am »
Also wondering what happened to Angel Sanchez ... I do not see him on the roster ... was he claimed on waivers or something?
Started at SS as expected, so I guess the roster was an oversight.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 07:51:45 pm »
Lyles won the duel with Shelby Miller today tossing 6 IP 7H 1ER 5K as OKC beat Memphis.   Miller got hit around to the tune of 3IP 7H 4ER
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 10:12:15 pm »
Any reports on how Wallace looking at 3rd?  He had 2 doubles and a homer in the opening series in which OKC took 3 of 4 from Memphis.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2012, 09:37:42 pm »
Keuchel gets his second win of the season, both shutouts.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 11:45:52 am »
Went back to see if I'd just missed it on the boards (and I still may have), but I didn't know that Koby Clemens was now in the Blue Jays farm system...  (I know, I'm probably way late to this party...).
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 12:15:38 pm »
Went back to see if I'd just missed it on the boards (and I still may have), but I didn't know that Koby Clemens was now in the Blue Jays farm system...  (I know, I'm probably way late to this party...).

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 02:55:21 pm »
Lyles won the duel with Shelby Miller today tossing 6 IP 7H 1ER 5K as OKC beat Memphis.   Miller got hit around to the tune of 3IP 7H 4ER

Lyles vs Miller II occured last night with similar results.  Lyles hit 2 batters, and gave up a single, HR and 2 runs in the first.  In innings 2-7 he allowed 1 baserunner while striking out 7.  

Miller made it to the 5th this time with similar results as last time.  

The Redhawks are 7-2 on the young season. (only good for second place behind the Zephyrs)
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2012, 07:45:26 pm »
Well, DeLome was released by the club.  Is it too early to label that draft as a bust?

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120417&content_id=28906022&notebook_id=28905636&vkey=notebook_hou&c_id=hou

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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2012, 08:24:55 pm »
Well, DeLome was released by the club.  Is it too early to label that draft as a bust?

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120417&content_id=28906022&notebook_id=28905636&vkey=notebook_hou&c_id=hou

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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 01:48:35 am »
The draft was a bust in August of 2007
With the Astros, DeLome was the only guy to reach AAA out of that group, and only 4 (Jon Fixler, Kyle Greenwalt, Albert Cartwright & Brian Wabick) reached AA.

Matt Cusick was traded to the Yankees and reached AAA briefly in 2010 before being released.
Robert Bono was traded to Florida and had one start at AA in 2010 before being released.

It may have been a historic-level bust.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 05:50:22 am »
Well, DeLome was released by the club.  Is it too early to label that draft as a bust?

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120417&content_id=28906022&notebook_id=28905636&vkey=notebook_hou&c_id=hou

According to Tags, "DeLome, taken in the fifth round, was hitting .176 in 17 at-bats at Triple-A Round Rock."
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 08:40:01 am »
According to Tags, "DeLome, taken in the fifth round, was hitting .176 in 17 at-bats at Triple-A Round Rock."
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2012, 04:00:32 pm »
Jonathan Mayo from MiLB.com had this from a scout who watched Lyles start on April 13th:

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"The first time, I saw him in the South Atlantic League [in 2009]," the scout said. "He's settled in now. He's more mature on the mound than I've ever seen him. He can sink, he can cut. His breaking ball was average to plus. His mound presence and confidence, his ability to use his stuff, was the best I've seen him. On Friday, he was a little bit ahead of Shelby Miller."

The rest of the article was cautionary about rushing prospects who are close to the majors, using Lyles as an example of what can happen with guys like Miller. 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120410&content_id=28336254&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb&tcid=tw_article_28336254

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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 02:29:13 pm »
Ross Seaton making a spot start at AAA today due to rain-out double-header last week.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2012, 02:28:26 pm »
Ross Seaton making a spot start at AAA today due to rain-out double-header last week.
Oops ... Looks like Paul Clemens went on the DL, too.  Any word on his status?

Sergio Perez also made a spot start (that one really was due to rain) ... I wonder which of the two will take Clemens' spot for the next turn (or more)?
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2012, 03:03:13 pm »
Oops ... Looks like Paul Clemens went on the DL, too.  Any word on his status?

Sergio Perez also made a spot start (that one really was due to rain) ... I wonder which of the two will take Clemens' spot for the next turn (or more)?

Not Seaton, he was sent back to Corpus.  But, Aristill was added back to the OKC roster.  Sergio has more of a recent track record as a starter, but it could be either one.

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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2012, 03:05:49 pm »
Not Seaton, he was sent back to Corpus.  But, Aristill was added back to the OKC roster.  Sergio has more of a recent track record as a starter, but it could be either one.
Did not see that.  Aristil seems like the logical choice; they seem to be grooming SPerez as a short-man.  We'll see.
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2012, 03:28:00 pm »
Did not see that.  Aristil seems like the logical choice; they seem to be grooming SPerez as a short-man.  We'll see.

McTaggart tweeted it a few minutes before I posted it in here.

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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2012, 12:06:31 pm »
Oops ... Looks like Paul Clemens went on the DL, too.  Any word on his status?


Didn't see this answered but ran accross it today:

"The Second Baptist High School alum replaced Paul Clemens, who was held out of his start and placed on the disabled list with back spasms. The injury to Clemens, perhaps a candidate for promotion at some point in 2012 should there be an injury, trade or performance issue at the major league level, is not considered serious."


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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2012, 11:36:02 pm »
Did not see that.  Aristil seems like the logical choice; they seem to be grooming SPerez as a short-man.  We'll see.
Aristil's new nickname:  YoYo.  He was back on the mound in long relief for Corpus last night.
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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2012, 09:37:47 pm »
OKC wins the series against Round Rock today as Keuchel goes to 4-1 with ERA of 1.61.  Shuck has eight hits in last two games.

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« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2012, 09:00:05 pm »
Cosart tweeting that he'll be at AAA tomorrow, with the big-league club calling up someone to take Weiland's spot.

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2012, 05:11:50 pm »
Cosart tweeting that he'll be at AAA tomorrow, with the big-league club calling up someone to take Weiland's spot.

He is getting Aneury Rodriguez start tonight (with AR getting the start in HOU), but will likely be back to Corpus when AR returns to OKC (1 start, perhaps 2 max).  Campbell LINK
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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2012, 05:29:11 pm »
Nice to read the comment by Nelson on him needing to command the fastball and get ahead in counts.  I wonder what, if anything they are doing to improve his command.  His mechanics are usually mentioned in this context, but I haven't heard if that is something they are working on.   

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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2012, 08:04:21 am »
In an interesting matchup, Lyles started against Las Vegas, who had Tim Redding on the mound.  OKC wins 1-0, led by Lyles, a solid bullpen, and Brett Wallace with a solo shot off Redding. 

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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2012, 01:03:16 pm »
In an interesting matchup, Lyles started against Las Vegas, who had Tim Redding on the mound.  OKC wins 1-0, led by Lyles, a solid bullpen, and Brett Wallace with a solo shot off Redding. 
Yeah.  It was good to see Timmah have a solid outing, and even better to see Lyles dominate and get the win.
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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2012, 08:14:26 am »
The RedHawks won a wild one in Reno last night, 16-11, putting them 1/2 game back out of 1st place.  Mike Hessman provided the most damage, going 5-5 with a walk, 2 HR and 2 doubles, driving in 4.  F-Mart had a decent night, also, going 2-6 with a 3-run HR, but had 3 Ks.  He's at .318/.374/.520 with 7 HR and 30 RBI on the season.  Has anyone seen him play recently?  How has his defense been?  I know the knocks on his mobility coming into the season, but how bad is he looking these days? 

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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2012, 07:50:24 am »
Dallas Keuchel entered yesterday's game with a 2.06 ERA and had allowed 13 ER in 8 starts.   Then he gives up TWELVE earned runs in 4 IP yesterday, ERA is now 3.75.  Why in the world would they leave him in that long?
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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2012, 08:02:35 pm »
Lyles lifted for a PH in the top of the third leading 5-1 ... any insights on the situation?  Sure hope it was not an injury of some kind.

And in related news, Keuchel is warming up for his first appearance after the 12-run shelling last week.  Look for him to step up to the challenge and dominate.
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2012, 08:29:22 pm »
Lyles lifted for a PH in the top of the third leading 5-1 ... any insights on the situation?  Sure hope it was not an injury of some kind.

And in related news, Keuchel is warming up for his first appearance after the 12-run shelling last week.  Look for him to step up to the challenge and dominate.
I saw a Levine tweeter noting that Lyles might only pitch 2 innings. He inferred that means he could still come up to pitch in the doubleheader on Monday, but notes Aneury is a possibility too.
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2012, 08:57:33 pm »
Yeah, seeing Lyles throw two and Pomeranz three made me wonder about a Lyles - Pomeranz matchup on Monday.

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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2012, 10:48:51 pm »
The Hooks twitter feed announced that Brandon Barnes has been called up to OKC; I was wondering who would replace Ruggiano.
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2012, 10:54:25 pm »
Wonder if there is a domino.  Maybe Bailey up to CC.

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« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2012, 02:50:05 pm »
Didn't see this posted anywhere

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/21/astros-sign-right-hander-armando-galarraga-to-minor-league-contract/

"Astros sign right-hander Armando Galarraga to minor league contract

Nearly two years after he was almost perfect against the Indians, Armando Galarraga has signed a minor league contract with the Astros.

Astros general manager Jeff Lunhow told Brian McTaggart of MLB.com that Galarraga will throw a couple of bullpen sessions at the team’s complex in Kissimmee, Florida before joining the starting rotation with Triple-A Oklahoma City. "
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« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2012, 04:07:38 pm »
Changes coming in the OKC pitching staff?

So ... just in the last few days the Astros have signed Armando Gallaraga (reported to be headed for AAA after a stint or two in EST), and Ben Bass (reported to be starting for OKC tomorrow).  Now they have promoted Chris Hicks from CC (where he has been on the DL most of the year).  (LINK)

Even with the musical chairs approach to filling the 5th starter slot in Houston, this is beginning to feel crowded.  I count 12 on the active roster before these three moves.  I see Juan Abreu as a release candidate, but not sure what other moves might be in the works.
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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2012, 09:05:12 pm »
Keuchel with a complete game shutout

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« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2012, 09:07:07 pm »
Keuchel with a complete game shutout

And he only threw 59 pitches!

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« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2012, 11:22:38 pm »
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« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2012, 10:24:14 pm »
MiLB (via Twitter):

Astros prospect Jimmy Paredes has recorded four hits for the third time in his last four games for @OKCRedHawks. MiLB GameDay LINK
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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2012, 10:10:35 am »
MiLB (via Twitter):

Astros prospect Jimmy Paredes has recorded four hits for the third time in his last four games for @OKCRedHawks. MiLB GameDay LINK

Hard to figure out what to do with this guy. He can definitely hit at AAA and he hit .280+ in the bigs last year. But he seems to be regressing in the field - 13 errors already this year. Plus he has a 6-1 SO/BB ratio. Maybe a DH next year or maybe trade bait. The fact that he is playing 2b means to me that the organization has no intention of bringing him up this year.
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2012, 11:09:24 am »
I think the decision was to put him at what they felt was his highest value position, let him develop and see what he becomes.  I think they are still in that process. 

I don't know why they wouldn't just let it continue and see if he develops more plate discipline and figures out his fielding issues, whatever they may be.  IMO, you wait until he stops improving before you decide to move him to a new position, trade him, or move him up to the big club.   

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« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2012, 08:29:20 am »
Went to Dell Diamond to see Clemens pitch.  I always assumed he was either the centerpiece of the trade, or a centerpiece at least.  I figured they must had something in mind when they acquired him, and hoped to catch a glimpse.  

The kid is pretty tall and rail thin, at age 24.  I guess if he is still that thin at that age, you can't expect him to fill out.  His fastball sits at 92 with decent movement.  He commands it well and can use it to get ahead in counts, but once he gets there, his weakness appears.  He really has no secondary pitches.  His curve improved over the course of the game to the point where he could throw it for strikes, but it is easy to see, has little bite, and is not close to a swing and miss pitch.  His change comes in at about 80.  He throws it for strikes, but it has no movement at all.  Overall, still didn't glimpse what they must have envisioned.

I saw Oswalt walk Paredes.  There is a feat.

Paredes looked good at the plate, bobbled a hot shot at him but recovered quickly to start a DP.  I don't think he lacks discipline in that he swings at a lot of balls, but in that he could wait on more hittable strikes.  Still looks good to me.

I like Shuck.  He gives a good AB, and even hit the ball with slightly more authority than when I saw him at CC, which means slightly more than pure slap hitting.

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« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2012, 04:30:28 pm »
Sickel's "Prospect of the Day - Dallas Keuchel" (LINK)
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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2012, 09:18:41 am »
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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2012, 09:44:59 am »
Last night Galarraga came out after one inning and Martinez came out after two ABs. Injury problems?
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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2012, 09:46:02 am »
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« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2012, 06:24:05 pm »
Both promotions on the bump tonight (Oberholtzer and Doran)

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« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2012, 09:52:09 pm »
Both promotions on the bump tonight (Oberholtzer and Doran)

Neither pitched well, but both should get wins

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« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2012, 11:08:50 pm »
Walrus went deep twice tonight and drew a walk. Both of the dingers were off former Astros farmhand (and lefty) Victor Garate. It wasn't a great night for pitchers on either side.

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« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2012, 10:41:01 pm »
And now taking the hill for your 2012 OKC RedHawks... JB Shuck (via @whattheheck57 Twitter link):

J.B. Shuck is coming in to pitch for OKC after Memphis took a 20-6 lead.
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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2012, 11:26:19 am »
Shuck is a ballplayer. I think he has a chance to be an excellent spare OFer in MLs. Hope he gets his chance in Houston.

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« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2012, 06:00:43 pm »
OKC with 3 All-Star reps from the PCL (BA LINK): Starter - Mike Hessman, 1b; back-up Landon Powell, C; and back-up Jimmy Paredes, 2b.
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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2012, 11:18:16 pm »
Speaking of Hessman and Paredes... Levine pointed out this OKC-paper interview with Luhnow. He had some semi-interesting things to say about Wallace and Hessman, and he also answered this question:
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« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2012, 08:09:02 am »
Speaking of Hessman and Paredes... Levine pointed out this OKC-paper interview with Luhnow. He had some semi-interesting things to say about Wallace and Hessman, and he also answered this question:

I didn't realize that Hessman was viewed as anything more than AAA roster filler.  Maybe Luhnow was just being nice, but he made it sound like Hessman could have something resembling a shot with the big-league club.

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« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2012, 08:13:15 am »
I read that as being nice, but my reading may have been colored by my admittedly brief one game viewing of Hessman in action.

Thanks for the link by the way.

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« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2012, 08:53:11 am »
I didn't realize that Hessman was viewed as anything more than AAA roster filler.  Maybe Luhnow was just being nice, but he made it sound like Hessman could have something resembling a shot with the big-league club.
Perhaps a September call-up reward? Couldn't hurt to have a power bat on the bench, and it's clear the guy has some power.
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« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2012, 11:36:07 am »
Speaking of Hessman and Paredes... Levine pointed out this OKC-paper interview with Luhnow. He had some semi-interesting things to say about Wallace and Hessman, and he also answered this question:

I wonder if we will be seeing Paredes soon to try and get some more offense into this team.

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« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2012, 11:38:54 am »
I wonder if we will be seeing Paredes soon to try and get some more offense into this team.

Who you going to sit, Altuve, Lowrie or Moore?

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« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2012, 12:05:13 pm »
Who you going to sit, Altuve, Lowrie or Moore?

Bogusevic?

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« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2012, 12:14:56 pm »
Bogusevic?

He's never played an inning in the outfiled in his 4.5 years in the minors.  He probably could learn it, but I doubt they call him up to play the outfield without experimenting at AAA first.


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« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2012, 12:18:03 pm »
He's never played an inning in the outfiled in his 4.5 years in the minors.  He probably could learn it, but I doubt they call him up to play the outfield without experimenting at AAA first.



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« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2012, 12:22:25 pm »
Everybody experiments a little in college.

He'd still be better than Roger Cedeno.

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« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2012, 12:22:44 pm »
Everybody experiments a little in college.

Can't argue this fact, but he never went to college

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« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2012, 12:25:05 pm »
He's never played an inning in the outfiled in his 4.5 years in the minors.  He probably could learn it, but I doubt they call him up to play the outfield without experimenting at AAA first.



So if he starts some games in the outfield at Oklahoma, Bogusevic should get nervous.

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« Reply #71 on: July 03, 2012, 12:27:24 pm »
So if he starts some games in the outfield at Oklahoma, Bogusevic should get nervous.
Or Schafer should.
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« Reply #72 on: July 03, 2012, 12:33:22 pm »
Or Schafer should.

He has ways of calming his nerves.
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He has ways of calming his nerves.
On the contrary, I'll bet he's pretty paranoid about someone taking his job.
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« Reply #74 on: July 03, 2012, 01:47:54 pm »
Who you going to sit, Altuve, Lowrie or Moore?

Lee, full time and sit Johnson part time.  Let Wallace and Paredes get some ABs.
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« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2012, 01:53:12 pm »
Lee, full time and sit Johnson part time.  Let Wallace and Paredes get some ABs.

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They waited for 6 years for Lee to get some abs.

Seems like he thought 1 was enough
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Regarding Dominguez, whose roster spot did he take? I take it that he'll be the everyday 3B, so is that the end of Wallace at 3B for now? I'll hang up and listen.
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« Reply #79 on: July 10, 2012, 03:46:12 pm »
Regarding Dominguez, whose roster spot did he take? I take it that he'll be the everyday 3B, so is that the end of Wallace at 3B for now? I'll hang up and listen.

PCL is on break too.  They don't have to decide anything till Thursday

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« Reply #80 on: July 10, 2012, 04:57:04 pm »
PCL is on break too.  They don't have to decide anything till Thursday

Thanks! I knew that the PCL also was on break, but i just thought that maybe one of you crackerjack busriders had scooped the news early.
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« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2012, 01:45:31 am »
Regarding Dominguez, whose roster spot did he take? I take it that he'll be the everyday 3B, so is that the end of Wallace at 3B for now? I'll hang up and listen.
Given that Wallace has racked up 9 errors at 3B, most in the last few weeks while he was playing regularly there, I would not be surprised at all to see the experiment end.  How it ends is another question, of course.  Maybe he will even return to Houston at 1B again?  We'll see.
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« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2012, 08:37:38 am »
Given that Wallace has racked up 9 errors at 3B, most in the last few weeks while he was playing regularly there, I would not be surprised at all to see the experiment end.  How it ends is another question, of course.  Maybe he will even return to Houston at 1B again?  We'll see.

Since it's been announced CJ is returning to 3rd it makes sense that Wallace will be called up to play there. Why hasn't it happened yet?

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« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2012, 06:34:35 pm »
Given that Wallace has racked up 9 errors at 3B, most in the last few weeks while he was playing regularly there, I would not be surprised at all to see the experiment end.  How it ends is another question, of course.  Maybe he will even return to Houston at 1B again?  We'll see.

So he's almost on par with Clank II, who's got 12 errors? The pitchers can't be happy with the decision to keep Clank II at the hot corner. The dude is an awful fielder there.
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« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2012, 05:25:25 pm »
Given that Wallace has racked up 9 errors at 3B, most in the last few weeks while he was playing regularly there, I would not be surprised at all to see the experiment end.

It ends tonight...  Wallace is being moved to SS at OKC...

RT @NewsOKRedHawks Marwin Gonzalez had flight issues and Jimmy Paredes away for the birth of his child. Brett Wallace forced into shortstop.
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It ends tonight...  Wallace is being moved to SS at OKC...

RT @NewsOKRedHawks Marwin Gonzalez had flight issues and Jimmy Paredes away for the birth of his child. Brett Wallace forced into shortstop.

I would actually buy a ticket to watch this.

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« Reply #86 on: July 12, 2012, 05:42:06 pm »
I would actually buy a ticket to watch this.

I have never been more tempted to shell out for MiLB.tv than I am at this moment.

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It ends tonight...  Wallace is being moved to SS at OKC...

RT @NewsOKRedHawks Marwin Gonzalez had flight issues and Jimmy Paredes away for the birth of his child. Brett Wallace forced into shortstop.

Confused, why what happened to Angel Sanchez?  Plus Dominguez played short in highschool.

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« Reply #88 on: July 12, 2012, 05:52:57 pm »
Confused, why what happened to Angel Sanchez?  Plus Dominguez played short in highschool.
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« Reply #89 on: July 12, 2012, 06:07:09 pm »
Confused, why what happened to Angel Sanchez?  Plus Dominguez played short in highschool.

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Y'see, this here is called showmanship...give the fans something outrageous and they'll show up to watch it.

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« Reply #91 on: July 12, 2012, 07:18:36 pm »
Well, according to the milb.com gameday, Wallace is indeed playing SS. Sanchez is at 2B, Dominguez at 3B. Pity NO's poor Donnie Murphy- a SS himself- on the game's 2nd play he grounded out to a first baseman playing shortstop. Still, I'm betting Clemens won't have a great feeling every time he induces a groundball that way tonight.
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« Reply #92 on: July 12, 2012, 07:32:05 pm »
Well, according to the milb.com gameday, Wallace is indeed playing SS. Sanchez is at 2B, Dominguez at 3B. Pity NO's poor Donnie Murphy- a SS himself- on the game's 2nd play he grounded out to a first baseman playing shortstop. Still, I'm betting Clemens won't have a great feeling every time he induces a groundball that way tonight.

If he's indeed coming up to stay tomorrow, that is one helluva way to leave AAA. Fuck, let him pitch too.
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« Reply #94 on: July 14, 2012, 12:21:30 am »
per Levine (via AstrosCounty) Wallace not called up yet:

http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2012/07/12/all-star-altuve-chosen-as-candidate-for-mlb-heart-and-hustle-award/


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« Reply #95 on: July 14, 2012, 08:14:56 am »
Why Matt Downs is still playing & getting starts, I don't know.  Wallace should be at 1B.  A question for those with more info at their finger tips...is Wallace near a service time break point?

He played in 51 games in '10, 115 in '11, and 11 (so far) in '12, but I don't think it has anything to do with service time.  He's well past the point where they could be concerned about him becoming a Super-Two and he's not going to reach arbitration this off-season, so it's something else.  J.D. and Brownie speculated that there could be something in the works trade-wise involving Wallace himself or someone else.  Maybe Lowrie and that was the real reason Wallace got a start at short the other day?

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He played in 51 games in '10, 115 in '11, and 11 (so far) in '12, but I don't think it has anything to do with service time.  He's well past the point where they could be concerned about him becoming a Super-Two and he's not going to reach arbitration this off-season, so it's something else.  J.D. and Brownie speculated that there could be something in the works trade-wise involving Wallace himself or someone else.  Maybe Lowrie and that was the real reason Wallace got a start at short the other day?

After watching Gose the other night (and watching Schafer most nights), I'm beginning to wish we hadn't flipped him for Wallace.
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« Reply #97 on: July 14, 2012, 09:42:10 am »
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Maybe Lowrie and that was the real reason Wallace got a start at short the other day?
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« Reply #98 on: July 14, 2012, 10:57:54 am »
I come back to the fact that although Luhnow was there when the cards drafted Wallace, he was also there when they dealt him. Luhnow wasn't the Astros gm who traded for him either. I'm wondering if Luhnow isn't high on him and would rather look in other directions. My other thought is that he is highlighting his MLB reserves to tey to max their trade value and perhaps wallace will the call after a trade or the trade deadline.
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« Reply #99 on: July 14, 2012, 12:14:43 pm »
I come back to the fact that although Luhnow was there when the cards drafted Wallace, he was also there when they dealt him. Luhnow wasn't the Astros gm who traded for him either. I'm wondering if Luhnow isn't high on him and would rather look in other directions. My other thought is that he is highlighting his MLB reserves to tey to max their trade value and perhaps wallace will the call after a trade or the trade deadline.

I strongly suspect that they're viewing Wallace as getting a little long in the tooth. When Luhnow made his comments about Wallace a week or so ago, to the effect that when they bring Wallace up, it'll be to stay, I thought that Luhnow was trying to maximize his value for a trade. Wallace seems to be a "flipper," looks good but gets moved a lot.
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« Reply #100 on: July 14, 2012, 01:22:17 pm »
Luhnow "clarified" the Wallace situation for Levine:

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“We want to see how (Justin) Maxwell does coming back off his rehab,” Luhnow said. “(Scott) Moore’s been playing well, and we want to give him some time. There are still some pieces we need to figure out for the second half.

“To me, the last time Brett was up here proved he belongs, and it’s just a matter of time. I suspect his next trip up will be a permanent trip.”

So, he's a better option for the 25-man, but not that much better for them to make room for him?  It would seem that if they wanted him up that badly, they would bump someone down, even if they chose the wrong reserve to send down.

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« Reply #101 on: July 14, 2012, 02:03:39 pm »
Marwin Gonzalez has now appeared in 12 games for Oklahoma City during this rehab stint. Assuming they choose to keep him around, of course, when do they have to make a roster move to bring him back up?

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« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2012, 04:00:54 pm »
I come back to the fact that although Luhnow was there when the cards drafted Wallace, he was also there when they dealt him. Luhnow wasn't the Astros gm who traded for him either. I'm wondering if Luhnow isn't high on him and would rather look in other directions. My other thought is that he is highlighting his MLB reserves to tey to max their trade value and perhaps wallace will the call after a trade or the trade deadline.
We know Luhnow had a lot to do with who they drafted. I'm not sure he had much to do with who they traded away. But, it sure is perplexing, if they do like him a lot, that he isn't in Houston now.

I was thinking it could be that they want to showcase CJ or Moore or somebody for potential trades, but really, what could they get for those guys other than someone else's 4-A filler or CJ-esque flawed player? In other words, is it really worth the lost MLB ABs for Wallace?
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« Reply #103 on: July 14, 2012, 07:09:23 pm »
Marwin Gonzalez has now appeared in 12 games for Oklahoma City during this rehab stint. Assuming they choose to keep him around, of course, when do they have to make a roster move to bring him back up?

Max rehab game limit is 20. Then he has to come back up or be returned from whence he came.
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« Reply #104 on: July 14, 2012, 07:49:52 pm »
Max rehab game limit is 20. Then he has to come back up or be returned from whence he came.

Ah, thanks very much.

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« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2012, 09:05:17 am »
Max rehab game limit is 20. Then he has to come back up or be returned from whence he came.
With Lowrie's leg injury, I expect they will bring him back sooner than later.
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« Reply #106 on: July 20, 2012, 07:17:46 am »
OKC just swept a 4 game series against Omaha, in Omaha, with Brett Wallace playing SS 3 out of 4 games.

Redhawks score 42 runs in the series.  Wallace was 10-17 w/ 2 doubles, a homer. and only 1 error.
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« Reply #107 on: July 20, 2012, 07:35:38 am »
OKC just swept a 4 game series against Omaha, in Omaha, with Brett Wallace playing SS 3 out of 4 games.

Redhawks score 42 runs in the series.  Wallace was 10-17 w/ 2 doubles, a homer. and only 1 error.

And with the parent club not being able to hit its' way out of a wet paper bag Wallace remains in OKC. WTF.

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« Reply #108 on: July 20, 2012, 08:46:43 am »
And with the parent club not being able to hit its' way out of a wet paper bag Wallace remains in OKC. WTF.

It seems pretty straight forward at this point.  Wait till the trade deadline.  Try to unload anyone you can till then.  After the deadline put everyone through waivers to see who might be tradeable in August.   At that point, clean up the major league club.  Really doesn't matter if the Stros lose every game between now and then.  3 weeks in the majors is probably not going to have any effect on determining if a call up will be a useful cog for next year. 

In August I could see Wallace, F Mart, and Barnes called up.  Schafer put through waivers and if he makes it assigned to OKC.  Bogey DFA'd.  Paredes moved to the outfield in OKC.  Jose Martinez, Singleton and Wates (if Schafer doesn't make it through waivers) called up to OKC.  Springer called up to Corpus.  DeSshields called up to Corpus.


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« Reply #109 on: July 20, 2012, 08:49:19 am »
Really doesn't matter if the Stros lose every game between now and then. 

Call me old fashioned, but I think it matters.  I want a GM who thinks it matters also.

DeShields to CC is crazy talk. 

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« Reply #110 on: July 20, 2012, 08:52:05 am »
Lunhow already stated Delino is moving up, soon.  I would assume to Lancaster though.

If Paredes is going to try the OF, what are they waiting for?   Heck they even talked about him playing SS, yet they have Brett Wallace getting reps there.
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« Reply #111 on: July 20, 2012, 09:02:32 am »
Lunhow already stated Delino is moving up, soon.  I would assume to Lancaster though.

If Paredes is going to try the OF, what are they waiting for?   Heck they even talked about him playing SS, yet they have Brett Wallace getting reps there.

I think Corpus makes more sense for a guy with DeShields' tools.  Last thing you want is him trying to hit balls over the fence.  It's only for a month.  If he struggles he can start next yeat in High A (hoepfully some other city than Lancaster)

As far as Paredes, they only have 5 infielders at OKC and calling someone up would require other moves.  Also, I think Paredes might be involved in trade talks (or Altuve).  He has more value as a second baseman.  Until July 31st, I think Paredes will be at second.

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« Reply #112 on: July 20, 2012, 09:04:34 am »
Lunhow already stated Delino is moving up, soon.  I would assume to Lancaster though.

If Paredes is going to try the OF, what are they waiting for?   Heck they even talked about him playing SS, yet they have Brett Wallace getting reps there.
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« Reply #113 on: July 20, 2012, 09:07:12 am »
I think Corpus makes more sense for a guy with DeShields' tools.  Last thing you want is him trying to hit balls over the fence.  It's only for a month.  If he struggles he can start next yeat in High A (hoepfully some other cit than Lancaster)

I just don't think that's a good idea. He'd very likely get eaten alive by AA pitching, which is significantly more advanced than what he'd face in Lancaster. This is the first prolonged success he's had as a pro—throwing him into a league he's not ready for would only serve to weaken the confidence he's built up this season (I bring up the confidence not just because of his numbers, but because of everything that's been written about his change in attitude and demeanor this season). Slow and steady with Delino. He's put up monster numbers recently, but he's still got a lot of work ahead of him.

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« Reply #114 on: July 20, 2012, 09:26:34 am »
Y'all may be right, but I just don't like the idea of a guy who has to learn how to hit the ball in play and utilize his speed spending time in a virtual homerun derby. 

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« Reply #115 on: July 20, 2012, 09:55:02 am »
Y'all may be right, but I just don't like the idea of a guy who has to learn how to hit the ball in play and utilize his speed spending time in a virtual homerun derby. 
I hear what you're saying, but that would be a very aggressive/risky jump, and I think this new regime has proven that they are going to be very conservative with promotions. What high-level guys have even moved up at all this year, Tropeano and...? Moving DDJ straight to Corpus would be very unorthodox.
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« Reply #116 on: July 20, 2012, 10:20:06 am »
I hear what you're saying, but that would be a very aggressive/risky jump, and I think this new regime has proven that they are going to be very conservative with promotions. What high-level guys have even moved up at all this year, Tropeano and...? Moving DDJ straight to Corpus would be very unorthodox.

Agreed. He's awfully young and awfully raw still to try AA. Let's not set him back.

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« Reply #117 on: July 20, 2012, 10:46:19 am »
Maybe DDSjr would go all Willie Mayes Hayes if moved to Lancaster, but I personally doubt it.  If his makeup is so erratic that he completely loses focus while playing, 15 games in Lancaster, then he probably aint a prospect to begin with.
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« Reply #118 on: July 20, 2012, 12:16:11 pm »
Maybe DDSjr would go all Willie Mayes Hayes if moved to Lancaster, but I personally doubt it.  If his makeup is so erratic that he completely loses focus while playing, 15 games in Lancaster, then he probably aint a prospect to begin with.
Agreed. It could be a slight concern, because he does have some "sneaky" pop for his size, but it's hard to see that as outweighing the cons of jumping him to CC.
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« Reply #119 on: July 20, 2012, 04:40:23 pm »
And not only that, it is a whopping 15 games.  It is silly to think that is gonna somehow ruin his swing.
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« Reply #120 on: July 20, 2012, 06:50:40 pm »
Y'all may be right, but I just don't like the idea of a guy who has to learn how to hit the ball in play and utilize his speed spending time in a virtual homerun derby. 

If they send him there and say "we're not looking for home runs, we're going to be grading you on line drives and gap power", don't you think he'd pay attention to that? I assume these guys get that kind of talk when they're promoted.
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« Reply #121 on: July 21, 2012, 06:32:35 pm »
If they send him there and say "we're not looking for home runs, we're going to be grading you on line drives and gap power", don't you think he'd pay attention to that? I assume these guys get that kind of talk when they're promoted.

This. This right here. The club can set its boundaries and expectations out in advance for DDS, and I have no reason to believe that they won't.
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« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2012, 09:46:19 pm »
Wallace 0 for 5 with 5 Ks.  Which metal is this one?

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« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2012, 10:10:28 pm »
Wallace 0 for 5 with 5 Ks.  Which metal is this one?

Five? That's a platinum sombrero. Hard to do.
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« Reply #124 on: July 24, 2012, 11:19:04 pm »
Crazy one in OKC tonight. Dominguez with a HR and 6 RBI, Wallace (again at SS-??) with 4 RBI. Paredes (at 2B still) with his 11th HR and 29th SB. And his 17th error. 'Hawks win 15-9.

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« Reply #125 on: July 25, 2012, 06:42:26 am »
Dominguez now hitting .350 with 14 RBI in his 11 games at OKC.

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« Reply #126 on: July 25, 2012, 07:45:16 am »
Angel Sanchez has probably put together bursts like that, and I know Scott Moore has, so keep it in perspective. 

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« Reply #127 on: July 25, 2012, 08:22:17 am »
That's unpossible. I was told he sucks.

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« Reply #128 on: July 25, 2012, 11:08:02 am »
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« Reply #129 on: July 25, 2012, 11:10:56 am »
That's unpossible. I was told he sucks.

Did he go to OU?
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« Reply #130 on: July 25, 2012, 12:09:30 pm »
Jake Buchanan promoted to AAA.  Wonder if he'll remain a starter now? 
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« Reply #131 on: July 25, 2012, 12:40:44 pm »
Judging from the box scores, it doesn't seem like OKC really has starters in the classic sense, they just use everyone to fill innings as they try to outscore the other team. 

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« Reply #132 on: July 27, 2012, 09:00:55 pm »
Cosart out after 60 something pitches.  Hope it is not serious.

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« Reply #133 on: July 28, 2012, 02:02:38 am »
It looks like he left with a blister. He struck out a guy on a high fastball and immediately looked at his hand and called the trainer out.

They took him out after that.

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« Reply #134 on: July 28, 2012, 11:23:26 am »
It looks like he left with a blister. He struck out a guy on a high fastball and immediately looked at his hand and called the trainer out.

They took him out after that.

Recurring problem. Nolan Ryan and Tom Griffin had blister issues early in their careers.

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« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2012, 03:52:44 pm »
Recurring problem. Nolan Ryan and Tom Griffin had blister issues early in their careers.

Bring out the pickle juice!  Or he could always try the Alou approach.  Probably shouldn't be making any public appearances after that one though.

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« Reply #136 on: July 28, 2012, 05:58:55 pm »
Bring out the pickle juice!  Or he could always try the Alou approach.  Probably shouldn't be making any public appearances after that one though.

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« Reply #137 on: July 28, 2012, 06:08:50 pm »
I tried that remedy years ago, and, fuck me, it worked!

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« Reply #138 on: July 30, 2012, 12:29:03 am »
Pickle juice? Or piss?

The former. About 25 years ago.
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« Reply #139 on: July 30, 2012, 09:12:01 am »
Good outing by Cisnero Saturday.
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« Reply #140 on: August 02, 2012, 11:15:44 pm »
Good outing by Cisnero Saturday.

SO far, so good tonight as well... 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 5 SO..  Cisnero stats LINK
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« Reply #141 on: August 03, 2012, 01:02:29 pm »
Judging from the box scores, it doesn't seem like OKC really has starters in the classic sense, they just use everyone to fill innings as they try to outscore the other team. 

And now Garrett Mock is joining the team.  Innuresting...
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« Reply #142 on: August 03, 2012, 01:06:34 pm »
And now Garrett Mock is joining the team.  Innuresting...

Nice.  Got to know him a bit while he was at UofH.  Good kid, especially considering the home life he grew up with.
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« Reply #143 on: August 07, 2012, 09:46:32 pm »
Cisnero couldn't stand prosperity and got rocked in Salt Lake.

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« Reply #144 on: August 08, 2012, 06:52:24 am »
Cisnero couldn't stand prosperity and got rocked in Salt Lake.

Lost to Brad Mills no less... Go figure...
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« Reply #146 on: August 14, 2012, 01:33:12 pm »
Anybody know anything about this?  http://twitter.com/Subber10/statuses/235094049982386176


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« Reply #147 on: August 14, 2012, 01:39:14 pm »
Anybody know anything about this?  http://twitter.com/Subber10/statuses/235094049982386176


Don't know anything about it but it would be career suicide.  If there is any AAA team closer to a call up than OKC, I don't know where it would be.  It is fine to quit on the manager if you don't want a job in baseball next year.
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« Reply #148 on: August 14, 2012, 02:00:00 pm »
I suspect that really crappy pitching has a lot to do with their slide.  It was always tenuous, now it has broke. 

Oh, and of course, I put little stock in some unknown twitterer.

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« Reply #149 on: August 14, 2012, 02:07:25 pm »
I suspect that really crappy pitching has a lot to do with their slide.  It was always tenuous, now it has broke. 

Oh, and of course, I put little stock in some unknown twitterer.

I absolutely agree with you on both scores. Professional ballplayers who are close to the show don't quit. Just because you aren't winning very much doesn't mean that you aren't trying to win. Using that guy's logic, the Astros have given up on Millsie, which I've seen absolutely no evidence of.
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« Reply #150 on: August 14, 2012, 02:16:53 pm »
Oh, and of course, I put little stock in some unknown twitterer.

An unknown source of an unknown twitterer, no less.

Side note, I'll be catching a RedHawks game when they come to Round Rock this weekend. I'm hoping to catch a good pitching matchup, since it'll be the only MiLB game I'll be able to make it to this year.

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« Reply #151 on: August 14, 2012, 02:20:46 pm »
I absolutely agree with you on both scores. Professional ballplayers who are close to the show don't quit. Just because you aren't winning very much doesn't mean that you aren't trying to win. Using that guy's logic, the Astros have given up on Millsie, which I've seen absolutely no evidence of.
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« Reply #152 on: August 14, 2012, 02:24:33 pm »
Speaking as one who "quit on baseball" as a no-talent player many years ago, i can guarantee you that nobody with talent and opportunity is going to "quit" at that level.  People like me who share their expertise on boards like this may "quit" but that is exactly the opposite of the attitude consistently displayed by guys with "what it takes" to make it into pro ball, much less the cusp of the big leagues.  That guy needs his twitter account pulled for an overabundance of dumb.

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« Reply #153 on: August 14, 2012, 02:39:48 pm »
An unknown source of an unknown twitterer, no less.



He is quite an reliable source.  He writes for another Astros blog.  Doesn't mean he is right in this case.  He reported it as rumor.  But I can tell you when I report something as rumor.  I have heard it from someone I can't share the source.  So I don't doubt that he heard it but it could be from someone miss informed or from one disgruntled player.  Or it could be true.
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« Reply #154 on: August 14, 2012, 02:59:02 pm »
He is quite an reliable source.  He writes for another Astros blog.  Doesn't mean he is right in this case.  He reported it as rumor.  But I can tell you when I report something as rumor.  I have heard it from someone I can't share the source.  So I don't doubt that he heard it but it could be from someone miss informed or from one disgruntled player.  Or it could be true.


Sure, but it's just as likely that OKC has lost 12 or 13 because the players they had earlier are in Houston now, or that their pitching collapsed.  In fact, that is more likely.

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« Reply #155 on: August 14, 2012, 03:11:33 pm »
Eggszactly. I can assure you that we didn't quit even though we were undergoing what was a 12-34 season, and that wasn't even pro ball. In my experience, every person that I've ever known who signed a pro contract, and I've known a bunch, to play baseball wouldn't ever quit. Ever. If they quit the game, that's one thing. But as long as they're still committed to play, they ain't giving up.
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« Reply #156 on: August 14, 2012, 03:12:30 pm »
He is quite an reliable source.  He writes for another Astros blog.  Doesn't mean he is right in this case.  He reported it as rumor.  But I can tell you when I report something as rumor.  I have heard it from someone I can't share the source.  So I don't doubt that he heard it but it could be from someone miss informed or from one disgruntled player.  Or it could be true.


Well, that changes it a little for me, since I know your bona fides. We'll see if Luhnow makes a change to the skipper of OkC next season. That's when we may know, unless the players there consist of more than one bad apple, which can spoil a bunch by spreading the seeds of dissension.
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« Reply #157 on: August 14, 2012, 03:15:20 pm »
Thanks.  I don't have your "earned credibility" but I have the good sense to know that liking to watch baseball requires much less of me than working to play it well.

Well, I wasn't exactly good either. I just was too stupid to quit and kept throwing, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. If I didn't have command of my fork ball and two seamer, then I was awful. Awful.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« Reply #158 on: August 14, 2012, 03:21:28 pm »
Well, that changes it a little for me, since I know your bona fides. We'll see if Luhnow makes a change to the skipper of OkC next season. That's when we may know, unless the players there consist of more than one bad apple, which can spoil a bunch by spreading the seeds of dissension.

The timing makes me wonder a couple of things:
1. Proximity to trade deadline - did some people think they were going to be called up after it and since have been pouting?
2. Proximity to Brett Wallace call up - did his exit leave a leadership void?
3. Proximity to Gallaraga's call up - I remember his signing caused some angst and his subsequent promotion may have exacerbated some attitude issues.

Or a combination of some/all of these factors plus bad pitching.
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« Reply #159 on: August 14, 2012, 03:24:19 pm »
He is quite an reliable source.  He writes for another Astros blog.  Doesn't mean he is right in this case.  He reported it as rumor.  But I can tell you when I report something as rumor.  I have heard it from someone I can't share the source.  So I don't doubt that he heard it but it could be from someone miss informed or from one disgruntled player.  Or it could be true.

My thinking was along the lines of the misinformed source possibility. Like some of the other posters here, I'm inclined to believe there may be other reasons for the team's collapse. I have seen some of his posts before and have never had reason to doubt his honesty, didn't mean to imply otherwise.

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« Reply #160 on: August 14, 2012, 03:28:02 pm »
They need to remember "Losing is a disease"
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« Reply #161 on: August 14, 2012, 03:37:17 pm »
The timing makes me wonder a couple of things:
1. Proximity to trade deadline - did some people think they were going to be called up after it and since have been pouting?
2. Proximity to Brett Wallace call up - did his exit leave a leadership void?
3. Proximity to Gallaraga's call up - I remember his signing caused some angst and his subsequent promotion may have exacerbated some attitude issues.

Or a combination of some/all of these factors plus bad pitching.

Either that, or it is not true.  This guy might have some "relationship" with a player or two, who might have voiced something, but for many of the reasons given here, it sounds like BS.  He is basically impugning the rep of an individual here, and that is a serious matter.  He should be following whatever journalistic guidelines come into play, and I assume those guidelines put on brake on sourceless rumor mongering. 

Either that, or putting Wallace at short was too much for everyone to take. 

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« Reply #162 on: August 14, 2012, 03:54:09 pm »
Apparently quitting on the manager is contagious.  It happened in Tucson - literally
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« Reply #163 on: August 14, 2012, 04:22:24 pm »
Apparently quitting on the manager is contagious.  It happened in Tucson - literally

Yikes.  As bad as this year has been, we haven't had anything of the sort happen here.
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« Reply #164 on: August 14, 2012, 04:25:31 pm »
Either that, or it is not true.  This guy might have some "relationship" with a player or two, who might have voiced something, but for many of the reasons given here, it sounds like BS.  He is basically impugning the rep of an individual here, and that is a serious matter.  He should be following whatever journalistic guidelines come into play, and I assume those guidelines put on brake on sourceless rumor mongering. 

Either that, or putting Wallace at short was too much for everyone to take. 

I want to thank AppyAstros for notifying me that this is being discussed. And, as he said, I have shown to be reliable.  I write for The Crawfish Boxes since 2010 and have a very good working relationship with several sources spreading over several affiliates.  I am a blogger, not a journalist. I was simply relaying information from a report I received from my OkC source as the previous tweet said.  I referred to it as a "rumor" and not fact.  For those who follow me and are aware of my work know this is how I do things and that my sources are anonymous by their request, but have proven to be reliable time and time again (ie. I was the one who first reported that Armando Galarraga was going to be called up on the night of the Wandy trade and my  information came from this exact source).  My followers know that they are not my words when they come from a report, but that of a reliable source.

I have stated before that he is a source and nothing more.  His role/relationship cannot be shared.  I know his role and trust him because of he has built up that credibility with me and that is why I share his information.

As AppyAstros has linked to, this kind of situation has happened before and there are reasonable examples as to why this could be going on.  If any of you watch MiLB.tv, you can see that it is quite possible based on the demeanor of the players.  For example, Jimmy Paredes popped out to 3B in a recent game and never left the batter's box and walked back to the dugout with his head down and dragging his bat.  The players are frustrated and it is visually showing.  The effort isn't there and rumors are that the frustration has carried over to frustration with Tony D.  

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« Reply #165 on: August 14, 2012, 05:05:21 pm »
I want to thank AppyAstros for notifying me that this is being discussed. And, as he said, I have shown to be reliable.  I write for The Crawfish Boxes since 2010 and have a very good working relationship with several sources spreading over several affiliates.  I am a blogger, not a journalist. I was simply relaying information from a report I received from my OkC source as the previous tweet said.  I referred to it as a "rumor" and not fact.  For those who follow me and are aware of my work know this is how I do things and that my sources are anonymous by their request, but have proven to be reliable time and time again (ie. I was the one who first reported that Armando Galarraga was going to be called up on the night of the Wandy trade and my  information came from this exact source).  My followers know that they are not my words when they come from a report, but that of a reliable source.

I have stated before that he is a source and nothing more.  His role/relationship cannot be shared.  I know his role and trust him because of he has built up that credibility with me and that is why I share his information.

As AppyAstros has linked to, this kind of situation has happened before and there are reasonable examples as to why this could be going on.  If any of you watch MiLB.tv, you can see that it is quite possible based on the demeanor of the players.  For example, Jimmy Paredes popped out to 3B in a recent game and never left the batter's box and walked back to the dugout with his head down and dragging his bat.  The players are frustrated and it is visually showing.  The effort isn't there and rumors are that the frustration has carried over to frustration with Tony D.  


Wow. Was Paredes introduced to his spot on the bench after that display of childishness?





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Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« Reply #166 on: August 14, 2012, 05:49:48 pm »
The timing makes me wonder a couple of things:
1. Proximity to trade deadline - did some people think they were going to be called up after it and since have been pouting?
2. Proximity to Brett Wallace call up - did his exit leave a leadership void?
3. Proximity to Gallaraga's call up - I remember his signing caused some angst and his subsequent promotion may have exacerbated some attitude issues.

Or a combination of some/all of these factors plus bad pitching.

That does give one pause. Gallaraga's signing did nothing for me but confirm what I already knew, i.e., that OkC didn't have much in the way of pitching. Therefore, if any of those guys are pouting about Gallaraga going up, then they need to look in their respective mirrors and reassess their own performances this season.
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« Reply #167 on: August 14, 2012, 05:51:36 pm »
I want to thank AppyAstros for notifying me that this is being discussed. And, as he said, I have shown to be reliable.  I write for The Crawfish Boxes since 2010 and have a very good working relationship with several sources spreading over several affiliates.  I am a blogger, not a journalist. I was simply relaying information from a report I received from my OkC source as the previous tweet said.  I referred to it as a "rumor" and not fact.  For those who follow me and are aware of my work know this is how I do things and that my sources are anonymous by their request, but have proven to be reliable time and time again (ie. I was the one who first reported that Armando Galarraga was going to be called up on the night of the Wandy trade and my  information came from this exact source).  My followers know that they are not my words when they come from a report, but that of a reliable source.

I have stated before that he is a source and nothing more.  His role/relationship cannot be shared.  I know his role and trust him because of he has built up that credibility with me and that is why I share his information.

As AppyAstros has linked to, this kind of situation has happened before and there are reasonable examples as to why this could be going on.  If any of you watch MiLB.tv, you can see that it is quite possible based on the demeanor of the players.  For example, Jimmy Paredes popped out to 3B in a recent game and never left the batter's box and walked back to the dugout with his head down and dragging his bat.  The players are frustrated and it is visually showing.  The effort isn't there and rumors are that the frustration has carried over to frustration with Tony D.  

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« Reply #168 on: August 14, 2012, 09:57:09 pm »
Dude:

You're soon to get another follower!!!

I recently added the Crawfish Boxes on my Twitter acct and I've been more than impressed.  Daily minor league roundups in the morning are things to look forward to.  Plus lots of great other info.  I don't follow Subber10 personally (but will, as in tonight).

Sad to hear about the situation in OKC.  My opinion of Paredes dropped a bit, too.
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« Reply #169 on: August 14, 2012, 10:16:04 pm »
I recently added the Crawfish Boxes on my Twitter acct and I've been more than impressed.  Daily minor league roundups in the morning are things to look forward to.  Plus lots of great other info.  I don't follow Subber10 personally (but will, as in tonight).

Sad to hear about the situation in OKC.  My opinion of Paredes dropped a bit, too.
Looks like he might've played pretty hard tonight. 2-for-4 with a game-tying double in the 5th, 2 steals, 1 run scored, OKC wins 4-3.

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« Reply #170 on: August 18, 2012, 10:59:46 am »
Good outing by Seaton last night.
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« Reply #171 on: August 19, 2012, 11:02:41 am »
Went to see the game last night, mainly to see Cisnero.  Cisnero did not look good: still has an effective fastball and can locate it reasonably well.  His slider and change can be thrown for strikes, but they leave a ton to be desired. Hooten and Corporon seemed concerned about some mechanical issue in the pen and during the game. My guess is he kind of gets under his slider. As a whole, he was unimpressive.

I was about to leave after the 6th and saw Cosart trot onto the field.  I saw him in the pen before the game, but thought he was on the DL.  So I stayed to watch.  He still looks real promising to me. First inning was a little shaky, could keep his heater down more, but he was real sharp in his second inning.  The guy certainly has talent.

Overall, their defense sucks. Fucking pathetic.  Pitching behind that defense is tough. Crappy defense permeates our upper minors. 

Other observations:
JD is still lost at the plate;
Spike Owen (RR third base coach) should respect JD's arm in left more as JD gunned out two at home who shouldn't have been sent;
Paredes breaks well, has tremendous speed, but can't seal the deal at the moment he needs to actually glove it.  Hopefully, experience will help;
Hessman is a minor leaguer;
Dominguez is not hopeless at the plate, but it is still tenuous; and
Krauss has a better body than I assumed. If he can hit, he might be able to handle a corner spot.

Anyways, they came back and won.  Sent those motherfucking Ranger fans home disappointed. That was certainly sweet.

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« Reply #172 on: August 19, 2012, 11:33:15 am »
He is quite a reliable source.  He writes for another Astros blog.

Not saying anything about anything, but this made me laugh.
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« Reply #173 on: August 19, 2012, 04:24:55 pm »
Went to see the game last night, mainly to see Cisnero.  Cisnero did not look good: still has an effective fastball and can locate it reasonably well.  His slider and change can be thrown for strikes, but they leave a ton to be desired. Hooten and Corporon seemed concerned about some mechanical issue in the pen and during the game. My guess is he kind of gets under his slider. As a whole, he was unimpressive.

I was about to leave after the 6th and saw Cosart trot onto the field.  I saw him in the pen before the game, but thought he was on the DL.  So I stayed to watch.  He still looks real promising to me. First inning was a little shaky, could keep his heater down more, but he was real sharp in his second inning.  The guy certainly has talent.

Overall, their defense sucks. Fucking pathetic.  Pitching behind that defense is tough. Crappy defense permeates our upper minors. 

Other observations:
JD is still lost at the plate;
Spike Owen (RR third base coach) should respect JD's arm in left more as JD gunned out two at home who shouldn't have been sent;
Paredes breaks well, has tremendous speed, but can't seal the deal at the moment he needs to actually glove it.  Hopefully, experience will help;
Hessman is a minor leaguer;
Dominguez is not hopeless at the plate, but it is still tenuous; and
Krauss has a better body than I assumed. If he can hit, he might be able to handle a corner spot.

Anyways, they came back and won.  Sent those motherfucking Ranger fans home disappointed. That was certainly sweet.

Thanks for that comprehensive report. I used to do that all of the time when I lived in New Orleans and the Zephyrs were the Astros AAA club.
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« Reply #174 on: August 21, 2012, 07:15:07 am »
Went out to see OKC @ RR last night. Pretty slim pickings on both teams.

Dominguez is very smooth and confident-looking at 3rd. He simply moves to the spot, softly gloves the ball, and then makes a solid throw over to 1st. He made one ground ball up the line look very routine. Quite a contrast to the butchery we've been watching in Houston.

Paredes only had one difficult test on the evening, and he didn't make the play. It was a long drive to LCF, and he got to the ball at the same time he got to the fence. It was difficult to tell, but it looked like maybe the ball was in his glove for a moment and then popped out as he hit the fence (hard). It was a difficult play and it's hard to fault him much, but it seemed like he didn't get a good enough to allow him to get to the spot earlier so that he could catch the ball and then absorb the wall. In his defense, the ball wasn't carrying well last night, so it was surprising when that ball made it to the fence.

JD's OKC average is something like .214 and falling; he's completely lost.

Nobody else made the slightest impression (on either team). Well, except for whomever OKC trotted out at 2nd; he's just about 1.0 Altuves tall.
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« Reply #175 on: August 21, 2012, 07:57:37 am »
Thanks for the report.  Your description of Paredes attempt sounds like two or three chances I saw Saturday where he could get there but failed to totally finish it.  Any thoughts on Oberholtzer's performance?

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« Reply #176 on: August 21, 2012, 08:12:55 am »
Thanks for the report.  Your description of Paredes attempt sounds like two or three chances I saw Saturday where he could get there but failed to totally finish it.  Any thoughts on Oberholtzer's performance?

Not really. I couldn't really judge movement or location from where we were sitting. I don't recall anybody breaking 92 on the gun. It was a fast game with few base runners (2-1 RR win; we were in the car by 9:30), but that appeared to be due more to hitter ineptitude than pitcher dominance.
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« Reply #177 on: August 21, 2012, 09:58:55 am »
Thanks for the eye-witness reports, guys. Good stuff. I miss the Round Rock days, when they were far more common.
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« Reply #178 on: August 23, 2012, 09:29:07 am »
Good outing by Cosart last night.
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« Reply #179 on: August 30, 2012, 10:18:09 pm »
Huge win for OKC tonight- 3-1 over 1st-place Albuquerque, they swept the 4-game series to pull within 1.5 games (1 back on loss column). Oberholtzer went 7.1 nice innings, Fick got the win in relief. Four games left in the season so they have a shot... but they host Round Rock, who've won 9 of their last 11, so it won't be easy.

If they could pull it off, and LAN can hold on to their Wild Card lead, it would mean 4 of the Astros' 5 highest affiliates would make the postseason. Which would be something.
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« Reply #180 on: September 02, 2012, 08:04:43 pm »
OKC up 9-4 on RR in the 7th, but considering the putrid state of their 'pen, not exactly a comfortable lead. Meanwhile, the team they're chasing, Albuquerque, is leading Omaha 2-0 in the 2nd. Hopefully Jason Bourgeois and Co. can come back and take that one.
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« Reply #181 on: September 02, 2012, 09:32:16 pm »
OKC wins, 9-6. Omaha just scored 5 in the top of the 6th to take the lead over Alb., 5-4.
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Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« Reply #182 on: September 03, 2012, 09:32:49 am »
Well, damn. Omaha squandered a leadoff double in the 9th and loses, 6-5. Redhawks officially eliminated. Got to give them credit, though, especially considering half the team is probably in Houston.
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« Reply #183 on: September 03, 2012, 07:54:16 pm »
Well, damn. Omaha squandered a leadoff double in the 9th and loses, 6-5. Redhawks officially eliminated. Got to give them credit, though, especially considering half the team is probably in Houston.

Fucking Boojwa! It was a good run anyway. Thanks for the updates, Reuben!
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