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Navin R Johnson

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2012 Opening Day Lineup
« on: August 08, 2011, 10:34:30 am »
With a couple assumptions, Lee is still here, as is Myers and Wandy.

Who do you see as locks to be playing.  Lee, Castro, Altuve, Schafer?  If Lee stays, then I guess it is between Wallace and JD Martinez for 1 spot.  That leaves, SS/3B/RF.  Any realistic FAs catch anyone's attention?  http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/2012-mlb-free-agents.html

As for the rotation, Bud, Wandy, Myers, Lyles and.....
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 11:49:20 am »
2 - Castro
3 - Lee/Wallace.  I believe one or the other will be dealt.
4 - Altuve
5 - CJ and Paredes will be given a shot. I believe there will be a couple of cheap FA possibilities.
6 - I think Barmes will be resigned.  The future is Villar's to lose, but he's not ready.
7 - Martinez
8 - Schafer
9 - FA or Bourgeois

SP - Bud, Lyles, Happ, Myers, Wandy (more likely some major league ready pitcher in return for trade).  Keuchel or one of AA pitchers could get a spot if the Astros think they're ready instead of Happ or someone in a Wandy deal.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 01:30:17 pm »
Quote from: Jacksonian on August 08, 2011, 11:49:20 am

5 - CJ and Paredes will be given a shot. I believe there will be a couple of cheap FA possibilities.


Free agent thirdbasemen:

Third basemen
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) - $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Wes Helms (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34)
Miguel Tejada (38)
Omar Vizquel (45)
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2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 02:28:14 pm »
Can Paredes play short?
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 02:34:33 pm »
Quote from: Bench on August 08, 2011, 01:30:17 pm
Free agent thirdbasemen:

Third basemen
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) - $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Wes Helms (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34)
Miguel Tejada (38)
Omar Vizquel (45)

Couldn't you also look at FA for the following year and see if you can pass off some kind of crap for him?
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 02:43:50 pm »
I might have missed a discussion of this, but didn't Wallace play 3rd base as recently as 2009? Was he horrible? Provided he gets his offensive act together, wouldn't he be very valuable at that position?
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 02:45:57 pm »
Quote from: subnuclear on August 08, 2011, 02:43:50 pm
I might have missed a discussion of this, but didn't Wallace play 3rd base as recently as 2009? Was he horrible? Provided he gets his offensive act together, wouldn't he be very valuable at that position?

I've been wondering the same thing but I haven't taken the time to look around for an answer.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 02:56:57 pm »
I think he started there, but I'm assuming he can't handle the position defensively.  Otherwise, he would have still been there. 
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 03:24:49 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 08, 2011, 02:56:57 pm
I think he started there, but I'm assuming he can't handle the position defensively.  Otherwise, he would have still been there. 

He's not very mobile.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 03:30:40 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 08, 2011, 02:56:57 pm
I think he started there, but I'm assuming he can't handle the position defensively.  Otherwise, he would have still been there. 

Probably. But the Blue Jays may have standards for their 3rd basemen that the Astros do not. It would be nice to play Lee at first and get another hitter in the outfield. But I guess Wallace has enough to do learning to better utilize his offensive talents.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 04:31:55 pm »
Quote from: geezerdonk on August 08, 2011, 02:28:14 pm
Can Paredes play short?

Not very good.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 04:32:24 pm »
Quote from: subnuclear on August 08, 2011, 02:43:50 pm
I might have missed a discussion of this, but didn't Wallace play 3rd base as recently as 2009? Was he horrible? Provided he gets his offensive act together, wouldn't he be very valuable at that position?

He'd make CJ look smooth.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 04:34:40 pm »
Quote from: Limey on August 08, 2011, 03:24:49 pm
He's not very mobile.
That's exactly it.  I believe the consensus is he can catch anything hit right to him and has plenty of arm, but no range whatsoever.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 04:46:25 pm »
Quote from: mrpink on August 08, 2011, 04:34:40 pm
That's exactly it.  I believe the consensus is he can catch anything hit right to him and has plenty of arm, but no range whatsoever.


..but covers plenty of area.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 04:57:45 pm »
Quote from: EasTexAstro on August 08, 2011, 04:46:25 pm

..but covers plenty of area.

That's just his pants.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 05:43:06 pm »
This team cannot afford a downgrade defensively at any position.  And it's not like Wallace's bat needs to be in the lineup anyways.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2011, 09:18:26 pm »
Quote from: roadrunner on August 08, 2011, 05:43:06 pm
This team cannot afford a downgrade defensively at any position.  And it's not like Wallace's bat needs to be in the lineup anyways.

Only against left-handed pitchers.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2011, 09:20:28 pm »
Quote from: mrpink on August 08, 2011, 04:34:40 pm
That's exactly it.  I believe the consensus is he can catch anything hit right to him and has plenty of arm, but no range whatsoever.

So why would the Yankees trade someone that fits their current SS mold?
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2011, 12:01:09 am »
Quote from: MusicMan on August 08, 2011, 09:20:28 pm
So why would the Yankees trade someone that fits their current SS mold?
Um... the Yankees didn't trade Wallace.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2011, 12:16:45 am »
Quote from: Reuben on August 09, 2011, 12:01:09 am
Um... the Yankees didn't trade Wallace.

Thought we were talking Paredes.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2011, 08:16:41 am »
Quote from: roadrunner on August 08, 2011, 05:43:06 pm
This team cannot afford a downgrade defensively at any position.  And it's not like Wallace's bat needs to be in the lineup anyways.

If you moved Lee from left field to 1B you would likely be upgrading the left-field position and while not hurting the 1B position. CJ isn't exactly Brooks Robinson, so I was just asking.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 10:10:34 am »
Quote from: subnuclear on August 08, 2011, 02:43:50 pm
I might have missed a discussion of this, but didn't Wallace play 3rd base as recently as 2009? Was he horrible? Provided he gets his offensive act together, wouldn't he be very valuable at that position?

Can Bagwell move to third?
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2011, 10:24:14 am »
Quote from: Bench on August 08, 2011, 01:30:17 pm
Free agent thirdbasemen:

Third basemen
Wilson Betemit (30)
Casey Blake (38) - $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Jorge Cantu (30)
Eric Chavez (34)
Craig Counsell (41)
Mark DeRosa (37)
Greg Dobbs (33)
Edwin Encarnacion (29) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
Wes Helms (36)
Omar Infante (30)
Felipe Lopez (32)
Jose Lopez (28)
Nick Punto (34)
Aramis Ramirez (34)
Miguel Tejada (38)
Omar Vizquel (45)

Don't need ant of those if there going to rebuild go ahead and bring up a young player and go with it.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2011, 02:36:21 pm »

MLBTradeRumors indicating Ian Stewart is a non-tender candidate with Colorado.  He's only 26.
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Re: 2012 Opening Day Lineup
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2011, 02:50:32 pm »
Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on August 12, 2011, 02:36:21 pm
MLBTradeRumors indicating Ian Stewart is a non-tender candidate with Colorado.  He's only 26.
And he's more lost at the plate than CJ
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