Brewers at Astros 8/5/11

[Lurch]

Jason Bourgeois (CF)
Jose Altuve (2B)
Angel Sanchez (3B)
Carlos Lee (1B)
J.D. Martinez (LF)
Brian Bogusevic (RF)
Clint Barmes (SS)
Humberto Quintero (C)
J.A. Happ (P)

Angel batting 3rd.  Angel.  3rd.

[MusicMan]

Angel batting 3rd.  Angel.  3rd.

Here's what's worse: I can't argue that it's the wrong decision.

[Lurch]

"Alyson Footer
Mills said he had Martinez in three hole to start with. But talking with coaches today and looking at Sanchez's good #s vs. Gallardo...
...he decided to put Sanchez in 3 hole and JD behind Carlos. Mills stressed he would like to settle on a more regular lineup and will soon."

[Jacksonian]

"Alyson Footer
Mills said he had Martinez in three hole to start with. But talking with coaches today and looking at Sanchez's good #s vs. Gallardo...
...he decided to put Sanchez in 3 hole and JD behind Carlos. Mills stressed he would like to settle on a more regular lineup and will soon."

I dread this is overmanaging.

[Russe]

Happ's pitching, so Ted Williams could be batting third and it wouldn't much matter.

[jbm]

I dread this is overmanaging.

Fuck ya.  Mills really perplexes me. The guy rakes and he moves him down.

[Uncle Charlie]

I dread this is overmanaging.

These guys need to be left alone for a while.  Hell, it's got to be hard enough adjusting to the majors without being moved around constantly.

Why isn't Shuck in the lineup?

[Lurch]

Nibble, nibble, nibble, walk.

Single, run scoring double. 1-0 without an out in the game.

[austro]

I hope Mr. Happy has a buddy with him tonight.

[Lurch]

Out then a two run bloop over second. 3-0, one out

[Mr. Happy]

I hope Mr. Happy has a buddy with him tonight.

I'm good-went to an NA meeting today.

[Lurch]

Your Houston Astros.

[JaneDoe]

Not a great start here.  I had higher expectations for Happ this year, not unrealistic ones, but better than this.

[Navin R Johnson]

This seems to HAPPen every 5th game.

[Mr. Happy]

Happ looks awful. Again.

[austro]

Lot of sink on that throw from Barmes, but Carlos has to make the catch.

[Lurch]

Barmes has a nice sinker, so there's that

[chuck]

I'm good-went to an NA meeting today.

You know, I've been meaning to ask you about this. Without exception every friend I have in a 12-step program considers NA totally useless and attend AA meetings instead. I'm thinking especially of two friends each of whom had serious problems with narcotics and neither found anything in NA for them but instead attend AA meetings daily. They each have told me that they consider NA attendees unserious and not committed particularly to recovery. You go so obviously you've found a meeting that works for you, but have you noticed a discernable difference between NA and AA?

[Lurch]

JD can swing the bat

[Mr. Happy]

You know, I've been meaning to ask you about this. Without exception every friend I have in a 12-step program considers NA totally useless and attend AA meetings instead. I'm thinking especially of two friends each of whom had serious problems with narcotics and neither found anything in NA for them but instead attend AA meetings daily. They each have told me that they consider NA attendees unserious and not committed particularly to recovery. You go so obviously you've found a meeting that works for you, but have you noticed a discernable difference between NA and AA?

It depends upon the meeting that you go to as well as the geographical area you're in-when I was in Louisiana, I went to AA meetings because the NA meetings where I was sucked. Here, there is a very strong recovery community in NA. I would vehemently disagree with your friends about NA. I know people who have stayed clean for 40 years in NA alone. Sure, you have lots of brokedicks in both fellowships who are there just because of a court requirement. Few of those folks are serious about it, and even fewer stay clean. My sponsor, clean for 16 years, is damn serious about it, as are all of my friends here who are in NA. I work steps, attend several meetings per week, am of service to NA and now also sponsor people.

[Lurch]

Nice RBI from Q!  Bases loaded 1 out for JA... Don't swing!

[Mr. Happy]

Nice AB from Happ.

[Lurch]

Nice AB from Happ.

he actually thought about arguing strike three

[Mr. Happy]

If you get a good job-don't go. Matt Galante to JD Sr.

[Mr. Happy]

he actually thought about arguing strike three

It was there. Sit down, meat.

[BizidyDizidy]

Any believer in the "wisdom of crowds" should really listen to the idiots cheering routine pop-ups

[JaneDoe]

If you get a good job-don't go. Matt Galante to JD Sr.

I think it was "If you get a good jump, don't go"....they were discussing baserunning.

[Mr. Happy]

I think it was "If you get a good jump, don't go"....they were discussing baserunning.

You're right. My bad.

[chuck]

It depends upon the meeting that you go to as well as the geographical area you're in-when I was in Louisiana, I went to AA meetings because the NA meetings where I was sucked. Here, there is a very strong recovery community in NA. I would vehemently disagree with your friends about NA. I know people who have stayed clean for 40 years in NA alone. Sure, you have lots of brokedicks in both fellowships who are there just because of a court requirement. Few of those folks are serious about it, and even fewer stay clean. My sponsor, clean for 16 years, is damn serious about it, as are all of my friends here who are in NA. I work steps, attend several meetings per week, am of service to NA and now also sponsor people.

Of course you know that I am not suggesting that NA is not effective or that people shouldn't pursue it. I'm simply conveying the remarks and attitudes of a number of people I know who have tried both.

I'll bet that's what they mean, though, that NA has a higher percentage of people who are there by court order and not because of a personal compulsion to be there and that dilutes the experience.

I do know that different meetings have (sometimes dramatically) different personalities and that certain meetings work for some and not for others. I'm glad you found a meeting you like so much.

[chuck]

Any believer in the "wisdom of crowds" should really listen to the idiots cheering routine pop-ups

Any believer in the wisdom of crowds has obviously never been in one.

[Mr. Happy]

Of course you know that I am not suggesting that NA is not effective or that people shouldn't pursue it. I'm simply conveying the remarks and attitudes of a number of people I know who have tried both.

I'll bet that's what they mean, though, that NA has a higher percentage of people who are there by court order and not because of a personal compulsion to be there and that dilutes the experience.

I do know that different meetings have (sometimes dramatically) different personalities and that certain meetings work for some and not for others. I'm glad you found a meeting you like so much.

I know what you meant. I've heard some of the same criticisms before. Actually, I've been going for so long now that I can put up with any shitty meeting, even one where we're taken hostage by someone who is pissing and moaning about their condition in life but not talking about the solution. I'm all about the solution. It's my problem, and it's my responsibility. I attend three to four meetings a week, one of which has no newcomers. It's a meditation meeting, and it is my favorite meeting.

[Mr. Happy]

I've seen enough. Happ needs to go on the DL. He's hurting my eyes. Dumb fucker needs to get the ball down.

[Navin R Johnson]

Agree, Happ needs to go down and work things out, this is ridiculous.   

[BizidyDizidy]

Anmd that cloud's name is JA Happ

[chuck]

It's a meditation meeting, and it is my favorite meeting.

What is that?

One friend swears by men's only meetings. I'm not sure why but I know he seeks them out and also often goes on retreats that are men only.

Fuck me, Happ is a disaster in every way.

[EasTexAstro]

I've seen enough. Happ needs to go on the DL. He's hurting my eyes. Dumb fucker needs to get the ball down.

Dadgummit, I am going to disagree agin.

He is getting the ball down, but he doesn't have the stuff to pitch. He isn't fooling anyone. I was wrong earlier, and I like Happ. He just isn't there.

[Navin R Johnson]

@zacharylevine: J.A. Happ is now the first Astros pitcher ever to allow 5+ runs in eight consecutive starts.

[Rebel Jew]

Of course you know that I am not suggesting that NA is not effective or that people shouldn't pursue it. I'm simply conveying the remarks and attitudes of a number of people I know who have tried both.

I'll bet that's what they mean, though, that NA has a higher percentage of people who are there by court order and not because of a personal compulsion to be there and that dilutes the experience.

I do know that different meetings have (sometimes dramatically) different personalities and that certain meetings work for some and not for others. I'm glad you found a meeting you like so much.

I had a friend in Austin who also didn't take to the NA meetings he went to. Seems like you get a lot of the methodone set rather than the more soul-searching crowd at AA meetings.

[Lurch]

@zacharylevine: J.A. Happ is now the first Astros pitcher ever to allow 5+ runs in eight consecutive starts.

Holy shit that's saying a lot

[austro]

Holy shit that's saying a lot

Even Chris Holt is shaking his head.

[chuck]

I had a friend in Austin who also didn't take to the NA meetings he went to. Seems like you get a lot of the methodone set rather than the more soul-searching crowd at AA meetings.

That's a much neater way to say what Hap and I have been discussing, yes. I remember a story about a clique at an NA meeting who would go drinking after the meetings. That's definitely not the crowd my friends are looking for.

[Mr. Happy]

What is that?

One friend swears by men's only meetings. I'm not sure why but I know he seeks them out and also often goes on retreats that are men only.

Fuck me, Happ is a disaster in every way.

I attend one men's meeting and like it, but I think that co-ed meetings are best and most in keeping with the NA traditions. Women feel more comfortable at women's meetings though. I think that the behavior at men's meetings sometimes leaves something to be desired unless there is a contingent of old-timers who don't cotten to that shit. In our meditation meeting, we pick a topic out of the NA basic text and read a couple of pages on the topic, and then meditate for 12 minutes before opening the floor to sharing. When I first started going years ago, I couldn't meditate for two minutes much less 12. However, now, I love that 12 minute respite and it always ends before I'm ready. I get a lot of peace and serenity from it.

In baseball news, Happ will lose more than 20 games with an ERA of above 6 unless management intervenes.

[Mr. Happy]

That's a much neater way to say what Hap and I have been discussing, yes. I remember a story about a clique at an NA meeting who would go drinking after the meetings. That's definitely not the crowd my friends are looking for.

Those people were not honoring the NA rules, because alcohol is a drug, as our basic text clearly states. I've heard plenty of people who were in AA but were continuing to use drugs before coming to NA. It all depends. I love NA. It saved my life. Literally.

[Mr. Happy]

Dadgummit, I am going to disagree agin.

He is getting the ball down, but he doesn't have the stuff to pitch. He isn't fooling anyone. I was wrong earlier, and I like Happ. He just isn't there.

Today, you're more right than not. I agree that he isn't fooling anyone tonight. However, he's still pitching up in the zone more than he should, and those are the pitches that he's given up basehits on.

[austro]

I know that "AA" is an acronym for "Alcoholics Anonymous". Is "NA" an acronym for "Narcotics Anonymous"? Sorry for the dumbass question.

[Rebel Jew]

That's a much neater way to say what Hap and I have been discussing, yes. I remember a story about a clique at an NA meeting who would go drinking after the meetings. That's definitely not the crowd my friends are looking for.

Yeah, I mean my buddy was a recovering heroin addict, but even though he had committed to kicking the drug (it was his second time in recovery after staying clean for a couple of years) he still smoked weed and wouldn't turn down a beer if a Horns football game was on. That's a very different profile than most people I've known who've gone to AA.

[Mr. Happy]

I know that "AA" is an acronym for "Alcoholics Anonymous". Is "NA" an acronym for "Narcotics Anonymous"? Sorry for the dumbass question.

Yes, and it isn't a dumb ass question unless you don't ask it.

[Mr. Happy]

Yeah, I mean my buddy was a recovering heroin addict, but even though he had committed to kicking the drug (it was his second time in recovery after staying clean for a couple of years) he still smoked weed and wouldn't turn down a beer if a Horns football game was on. That's a very different profile than most people I've known who've gone to AA.

He wasn't really in recovery. Marijuana is a drug too.

[Mr. Happy]

ETA, in proof of my point, look at the pitch sequence in this long AB by McGhee. When you're throwing 89-91 in the upper half of the zone, you're playing with fire.

[chuck]

Yeah, I mean my buddy was a recovering heroin addict, but even though he had committed to kicking the drug (it was his second time in recovery after staying clean for a couple of years) he still smoked weed and wouldn't turn down a beer if a Horns football game was on. That's a very different profile than AA.

Totally. One of my friends was a full-on junkie and tried NA and just didn't get what he needed there, or at least at the meetings he attended. He shifted to AA and found what he was looking for. He doesn't smoke weed or anything else and certainly does not drink although I never knew him to have any real issue with alcohol. As Hap says, it's meant to be a total commitment.

[austro]

ETA, in proof of my point, look at the pitch sequence in this long AB by McGhee. When you're throwing 89-91 in the upper half of the zone, you're playing with fire.

You're not even playing. You're just lighting matches and throwing them on the side of the road.

[jbm]

ETA, in proof of my point, look at the pitch sequence in this long AB by McGhee. When you're throwing 89-91 in the upper half of the zone, you're playing with fire.

His secondary pitches are weak.  His fastball is good enough to set up other pitches, it is just that there aren't any other pitches. They square up his curve and change. He throws a change on pitch 13 and it has no effect.

[EasTexAstro]

ETA, in proof of my point, look at the pitch sequence in this long AB by McGhee. When you're throwing 89-91 in the upper half of the zone, you're playing with fire.

I didn't post well. Happ is not pitching well. I had been defending him, but he is not doing that tonight. I agree with you, finally. It isn't pitching down in the zone, it is not having the stuff to pitch anywhere around the zone.

[Rebel Jew]

Totally. One of my friends was a full-on junkie and tried NA and just didn't get what he needed there, or at least at the meetings he attended. He shifted to AA and found what he was looking for. He doesn't smoke weed or anything else and certainly does not drink although I never knew him to have any real issue with alcohol. As Hap says, it's meant to be a total commitment.

Addiction is a hard concept for me to understand in some ways. The friend I'm referring to had a couple of major obsessions that he couldn't control-- heroin and chubby men, as funny as that sounds. He was a fairly mellow guy otherwise, had no problem drinking only a beer or two during a football game and stopping, smoked weed but in relative moderation. Conversely, I had a cousin who was an alcoholic who couldn't say no to ANYTHING, and it ultimately killed him.

[Lurch]

Shuck in right!

[EasTexAstro]

Anyone else think that Patty interviewing a bunch of cute girls is not  a bad thing for this particular game?

[Lurch]

Anyone else think that Patty interviewing a bunch of cute girls is not  a bad thing for this particular game?

Hopefully she'll find some

[austro]

Anyone else think that Patty interviewing a bunch of cute girls is not  a bad thing for this particular game?

It's certainly more interesting than watching Happ get his brains beat out.

I've always wondered what the succession plan is for the Black Tie Gala. I mean, I think that Keppinger's wife was the lead on that this year, and then all of a sudden they find themselves in San Francisco. What kind of transfer takes place there?

[EasTexAstro]

Hopefully she'll find some

That was a private video? Nevermind.....

[BizidyDizidy]

On the bright side - the astros may be historically bad and on track to easily set the franchise loss record, but college football starts in less than a month!

[chuck]

heroin and chubby men

An unlikely combination to be sure, but I'm pretty sure there are bars dedicated to that theme in the Castro.

[BizidyDizidy]

Shuck!

[Lurch]

That never gets old

[austro]

Shuck shuck!

[Lurch]

And a SB!

[jbm]

Watches some hittable pitches and squares up a tough one. Looks like a confident hitter.

[austro]

On the bright side - the astros may be historically bad and on track to easily set the franchise loss record, but college football starts in less than a month!

Time for me to start sharpening my excuses for the Owls' failures.

[chuck]

That never gets old

I'll tell you what does, and that's JD's authenticators jokes.

[Lurch]

I'll tell you what does, and that's JD's authenticators jokes.

Mondays at 9

[Mr. Happy]

Totally. One of my friends was a full-on junkie and tried NA and just didn't get what he needed there, or at least at the meetings he attended. He shifted to AA and found what he was looking for. He doesn't smoke weed or anything else and certainly does not drink although I never knew him to have any real issue with alcohol. As Hap says, it's meant to be a total commitment.

In NA, we focus on addiction generally, and not just to drugs either. When I got here, as some of you no doubt remember, I was a very angry person. I was addicted to the rush of anger outbursts. We deal with people who are addicted to gambling, shopping, lying, etc.

[Lurch]

They're even calling up fans from double A. - JD classic

[Rebel Jew]

An unlikely combination to be sure, but I'm pretty sure there are bars dedicated to that theme in the Castro.

I'm sure there's something somewhere, but the Castro has notoriously become dominated by wealthy gay men rather than being the all-inclusive utopia that it perhaps was once earmarked to be.

My friend was a trip, btw. He had a steady, long-term relationship with an Arkansas truck driver named Bud, but would periodically cheat whenever he encountered another of his favored type. He had a shoebox stacked full of (mostly SFW) photos of different chubby guys he'd dated over the years. Crazy and kind-of hilarious-- picture the most stereotypical truck driver you can think of and that's his ideal.

[BizidyDizidy]

Most exciting season for a stanford fan maybe ever - got season tix this year, hope there's not a letdown.

[Mr. Happy]

I'm sure there's something somewhere, but the Castro has notoriously become dominated by wealthy gay men rather than being the all-inclusive utopia that it perhaps was once earmarked to be.

My friend was a trip, btw. He had a steady, long-term relationship with an Arkansas truck driver named Bud, but would periodically cheat whenever he encountered another of his favored type. He had a shoebox stacked full of (mostly SFW) photos of different chubby guys he'd dated over the years. Crazy and kind-of hilarious.

Only in SFO.

[Mr. Happy]

Most exciting season for a stanford fan maybe ever - got season tix this year, hope there's not a letdown.

I doubt it. Luck is the real deal.

[jbm]

Where is Stanford ranked to open the season? Highest in the pac 11/12?

[chuck]

I'm sure there's something somewhere, but the Castro has notoriously become dominated by wealthy gay men rather than being the all-inclusive utopia that it perhaps was once earmarked to be.

My friend was a trip, btw. He had a steady, long-term relationship with an Arkansas truck driver named Bud, but would periodically cheat whenever he encountered another of his favored type. He had a shoebox stacked full of (mostly SFW) photos of different chubby guys he'd dated over the years. Crazy and kind-of hilarious.

You know you're onto something when you can reliably pick up your sexual partners at Whataburger.

[Lurch]

Who's putting the SnS FF together this year?

[BizidyDizidy]

6th in the coaches poll, picked 2nd in pac12 after Oregon. They come to Stanford this year, which should be a great game (hopefully between two undefeated teams if the ducks can beat Happy's tigers). By the way, anyone have a suite for thay game they are having trouble filling up? Still haven't seen jerryworld

[Rebel Jew]

Only in SFO.

I knew this guy in Texas. I'm sure there are many like-minded out here, though.

[JaneDoe]

You know you're onto something when you can reliably pick up your sexual partners at Whataburger.

I just threw up a little....thanks guys...

[chuck]

I just threw up a little....thanks guys...

Yeah, right, like you've never picked up a guy at Whataburger.

[BizidyDizidy]

Main reason I sprung for the tix is watching Luck finish out his career - also, Charles will get to say he was there back when

[BizidyDizidy]

She was always there on a date to start with

[Navin R Johnson]

Speaking of SFO. I will be making my first non-work trip out there in a few weeks to catch the astros/giants. Really looking forward to seeing their park.

[JaneDoe]

Yeah, right, like you've never picked up a guy at Whataburger.

I honestly have been to a Whataburger twice in my life.  So, no.

[austro]

I honestly have been to a Whataburger twice in my life.  So, no.

Liar. First time, maybe. But after that there's no resisting the allure.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

6th in the coaches poll, picked 2nd in pac12 after Oregon. They come to Stanford this year, which should be a great game (hopefully between two undefeated teams if the ducks can beat Happy's tigers). By the way, anyone have a suite for thay game they are having trouble filling up? Still haven't seen jerryworld

You know I'll be rooting for my boy from Mansfield.

[Lurch]

I honestly have been to a Whataburger twice in my life.  So, no.

I've been twice this week.

[Mr. Happy]

Speaking of SFO. I will be making my first non-work trip out there in a few weeks to catch the astros/giants. Really looking forward to seeing their park.

Beautiful ball park. If you come to the Napa Valley, PM me before and we can meet up. I make one helluva designated driver to the wineries.

[chuck]

I've been twice this week.

I would have believed it had you said you'd been twice today.

[BizidyDizidy]

Stepfan is a beast - he'll be 1A this year in a backfield by committee.

Pacbell is awesome - best MLB park I have been to.

Jane - don't worry, INO is coming. Much better than WB

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

Pence would never make that catch.

[Mr. Happy]

I really like Carpenter's stuff and his approach.

[Lurch]

Pence would never make that catch.

That's two tonight

[chuck]

Pence would never make that catch.

I thought the same thing about Bogey's similar catch earlier. Not that he wouldn't have tried like hell, it's just that he would have set off running the wrong way for three steps or so.

[Lurch]

I would have believed it had you said you'd been twice today.

They do have a very serviceable breakfast

[BizidyDizidy]

And fallen over. Twice.

[austro]

I thought the same thing about Bogey's similar catch earlier. Not that he wouldn't have tried like hell, it's just that he would have set off running the wrong way for three steps or so.

And then catapulted over the railing and taken out four fans.

[BizidyDizidy]

Mmmm, honey butter biscuit

[jbm]

I really like Carpenter's stuff and his approach.

He has been impressive.

[chuck]

And then catapulted over the railing and taken out four fans.

I don't know about taking out the fans. The guys down there on the rail look like charter members of the Chubbyburger set.

[BizidyDizidy]

I predict he doesn't get a hit

[chuck]

I predict he doesn't get a hit

When, this year?

[BizidyDizidy]

Again. Period.

[BizidyDizidy]

Why didn't we trade Wilton? And when will we find out if wandy cleared waivers?

[Ron Brand]

And when will we find out if wandy cleared waivers?

You'll only find that out if he gets traded this season.

[JaneDoe]

Jane - don't worry, INO is coming. Much better than WB

I am not a fried burger fan.  I like grilled much better.  I really don't eat fast food much, and even then, rarely burgers.

[Ron Brand]

Why didn't we trade Wilton?

He's about the high side of what you'd expect to get back in a trade for him.

[BizidyDizidy]

And here I used to think you were a woman of taste...

[Ron Brand]

I am not a fried burger fan.  I like grilled much better.  I really don't eat fast food much, and even then, rarely burgers.

Weirdo.

[Navin R Johnson]

Thanks for the offer Mr Happy. No plans to head that way as of now though.

[BizidyDizidy]

Didn't the rangers give up two solid starting prospects for Adams?

[JaneDoe]

And here I used to think you were a woman of taste...

Look, if I am gonna eat a burger, I want a really thick patty that was formed by hand by the person who cooked it.  I don't like machine-pressed-frozen hockey pucks. 

[BizidyDizidy]

Everything freshly made at INO...

[Ron Brand]

You've got to have some real stones to be a pitcher and knowingly piss off your owner, Nolan Ryan.

[austro]

Look, if I am gonna eat a burger, I want a really thick patty that was formed by hand by the person who cooked it.  I don't like machine-pressed-frozen hockey pucks. 

Preach it, sister.

[Ron Brand]

Everything freshly made at INO...

Fuck that shit. Fatburger, baby.

[BizidyDizidy]

I think thick grilled burgers and thin griddled burgers are each beautiful things

[Lurch]

I think thick grilled burgers and thin griddled burgers are each beautiful things

This.  It's not an either/or decision

[BizidyDizidy]

I admit I've never had a fatburger or five guys - smashburger recently opened across the street from my office and is pretty solid. Can get a fried egg, which is always a plus in my book.

[Ron Brand]

You can get the fried egg at Fatburger.

Hell. Now I'm drooling again. Dammit.

[Mr. Happy]

You can get the fried egg at Fatburger.

Hell. Now I'm drooling again. Dammit.

Now now, RB.

[chuck]

You've got to have some real stones to be a pitcher and knowingly piss off your owner, Nolan Ryan.

I caught the end of that - who was he talking about?

[Lurch]

That's the Royal Red Robin at Red Robin.

[BizidyDizidy]

I am thumbs down on Red Robin.

[Mr. Happy]

I caught the end of that - who was he talking about?

Neftali Feliz

[Lurch]

I am thumbs down on Red Robin.

Yeah I always leave disappointed, but keep going back for some reason.

[Ron Brand]

Since we're talking about food, I usually buy my briskets at Costco because they're Choice and every one I've bought from them has come out great. Couple of weeks ago I was in HEB and they were something like $1.48 a pound so I looked and in the bin, mixed in with the dozen or so Select graded ones, were four CAB Choice briskets and 2-3 Excel Choice ones. I was stunned; evidently they do this from time to time. FYI.

[Mr. Happy]

Yeah I always leave disappointed, but keep going back for some reason.

There's treatment for that.

[Ron Brand]

I am thumbs down on Red Robin.

Red Robin is dank. Burger King is better than that.

[austro]

Since we're talking about food, I usually buy my briskets at Costco because they're Choice and every one I've bought from them has come out great. Couple of weeks ago I was in HEB and they were something like $1.48 a pound so I looked and in the bin, mixed in with the dozen or so Select graded ones, were four CAB Choice briskets and 2-3 Excel Choice ones. I was stunned; evidently they do this from time to time. FYI.

Interesting. Did you stock up? How long can you keep a brisket frozen before it's beyond hope?

[BizidyDizidy]

I've only ever bought at costco.

Made NO bbq shrimp for dinner tonight. Peeling and deveining 2.5 lbs of head on shrimp a bit of a pain, but totally worth it

[Mr. Happy]

Since we're talking about food, I usually buy my briskets at Costco because they're Choice and every one I've bought from them has come out great. Couple of weeks ago I was in HEB and they were something like $1.48 a pound so I looked and in the bin, mixed in with the dozen or so Select graded ones, were four CAB Choice briskets and 2-3 Excel Choice ones. I was stunned; evidently they do this from time to time. FYI.

Was at CostCo last night. Bought a Omaha Steaks Tri-tip roast.

[BizidyDizidy]

If you have to give up heroin, weed, booze, AND hamburgeres, count me the fuck out

[Ron Brand]

Interesting. Did you stock up? How long can you keep a brisket frozen before it's beyond hope?

I didn't; didn't have refrigerator or freezer space and I was still holding one I'd bought a week before. I never freeze the uncooked ones - they're good in the cryovac in the refrigerator for at least 30-45 days although I've never held one longer than three weeks.

After cooking them, if you wrap them right, you can store them for up to six months but that's really pushing it. I don't like to hold anything longer than three months in the freezer.

[Mr. Happy]

If you have to give up heroin, weed, booze, AND hamburgeres, count me the fuck out

I'm with you, Biz.

[BizidyDizidy]

You go to Gott's roadside or taylors refresher or whatever the fuck they are calling it now?

[Lurch]

Since we're talking about food, I usually buy my briskets at Costco because they're Choice and every one I've bought from them has come out great. Couple of weeks ago I was in HEB and they were something like $1.48 a pound so I looked and in the bin, mixed in with the dozen or so Select graded ones, were four CAB Choice briskets and 2-3 Excel Choice ones. I was stunned; evidently they do this from time to time. FYI.

Someone mentioned that here

[Ron Brand]

I've only ever bought at costco.

Made NO bbq shrimp for dinner tonight. Peeling and deveining 2.5 lbs of head on shrimp a bit of a pain, but totally worth it

When I worked in restaurants that was the job I hated the most, cleaning shrimp. 20+ pounds at a time, in five-pound frozen blocks, thawing in near-freezing slushy water so your hands are frozen and you're prying a block of ice apart, plus you're using a sharp knife. Ugh.

[Mr. Happy]

You go to Gott's roadside or taylors refresher or whatever the fuck they are calling it now?

Very occasionally. It's overpriced and a tourist trap, like V Sattui-my wife, who's quite a wine enthusiast and very knowledgeable about it, says their wines suck.

[BizidyDizidy]

I haven't been, but seems like evryone raves about it.

[Mr. Happy]

I haven't been, but seems like evryone raves about it.

It's a good burger, but it's a $12 burger, so it damn sure better be good.

[chuck]

I bet I clean five to eight pounds of shrimp every week. Of course they're enormous so we're talking about six or eight a pound and they are certainly not frozen.

[BizidyDizidy]

These were about U16N so probably about 40-50. Harder than you'd think to find head on here (these were frozen)

[Mr. Happy]

God damn it Del Rosario. It's 7-1 and the bases are loaded. Don't fucking nibble on a full count.

[BizidyDizidy]

My wife just started watching after putting the boy to sleep! But she is very unahppy with del rosario

[Ron Brand]

I bet I clean five to eight pounds of shrimp every week. Of course they're enormous so we're talking about six or eight a pound and they are certainly not frozen.

It was the frozen and slushy water that made it so rotten of a job. Your hands are numb, so you can't feel much, but you can't really control the knife all that well either, and everything you touch is ice cold...

[austro]

Remember the old days when the Brewers sucked and we would pound their asses? Sigh.

[Mr. Happy]

That's not your everyday 1-5-3.

[Ron Brand]

That's not your everyday 1-5-3.

Nice grab and throw by Downs.

[Lurch]

That's not your everyday 1-5-3.

Don't throw it! Don't throw it!  Oh... Nice throw!

[Ron Brand]

Shitfuck.

[Mr. Happy]

Shitfuck.

[Jacksonian]

Didn't the rangers give up two solid starting prospects for Adams?

Yes.

[BudGirl]

Any news about the game?

[Ron Brand]

Any news about the game?

8-1 Brewers, final.

[BudGirl]

Perfect. Just what I needed after being in a car for 13+ hours with an emotional wreck.

[JaneDoe]

Perfect. Just what I needed after being in a car for 13+ hours with an emotional wreck.

That does not sound like an enjoyable vacation...sorry...

[Ron Brand]

Perfect. Just what I needed after being in a car for 13+ hours with an emotional wreck.

But you didn't have to watch it. And you missed all the great commercials.

It looked like a great trip, sorry the last part was a little difficult.

[BudGirl]

Rather wishing the one we picked up in Boston had flown back. She's been uber-sensitive.   It rubs off on the rest of us.

I did get a bad-add tan in pensacola. I'm ready to go back there or Virginia beach.