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Where will Wandy go?
« on: July 29, 2011, 08:25:27 pm »
That has to be the next deal Wade is working most on, right?
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2011, 08:34:10 pm »
Sox or Yanks
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 10:43:55 am »
Not a word and yet others such as Jason Marquis is listed as one of the best available SPs list by Tim kurkgin (sp?).  Wandy's name no where to be found. I don't get it.

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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2011, 02:14:15 pm »
Not a word and yet others such as Jason Marquis is listed as one of the best available SPs list by Tim kurkgin (sp?).  Wandy's name no where to be found. I don't get it.

Right or wrong, there's a perception that Wandy wouldn't be successful in the American League.    Then, teams may not want to pay him the remainder of the contract extension he signed last season.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 02:26:45 pm »
He has something like a 5.50 lifetime against the AL
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2011, 03:44:15 pm »
I just noticed on Rosenthal's Twitter feed that the Rangers are entertaining offers for Holland. After watching his performance this afternoon, I think they'd be nuts to trade him.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 08:37:50 pm »
Red sox picked up Harden, which I assume takes them out of Wandy sweepstakes
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 09:07:45 pm »
Colorado just raped Cleveland in the Ubaldo deal.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2011, 09:08:12 pm »
Is anyone left who wants a SP
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2011, 09:11:11 pm »
Is anyone left who wants a SP

Sounding like Yanks, and they're not interested in him
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 12:53:18 am »
Red sox picked up Harden, which I assume takes them out of Wandy sweepstakes

That deal is done. Harden saying he's staying put in Oakland.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 09:33:40 am »
It sounds like the Red Sox remembered at the last minute that Harden is always on the DL.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 09:35:36 am »
It sounds like the Red Sox remembered at the last minute that Harden is always on the DL.
Maybe they're just trying to rework it into a 5-way deal where they get Harden, Bedard, Mark Prior, and Monty Stratton.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 10:37:27 am »
Rosenthal and MLBTR bringing up the Yanks again this morning.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 10:49:46 am »
It's difficult to imagine that men managing $100-million payrolls are relying on Wandy's 5.25 ERA in 22 starts and 130-1/3 innings of interleague play to conclude that he can't pitch against the American League. First, the same size is small. Second, it's not as if his interleague play is against an equal sample of all the teams in the American League and that the composition of those teams never changes. The contract and injury history are likely the bigger concerns.

But it's almost certain he'll be moved at this point.

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2011, 11:00:57 am »
It's difficult to imagine that men managing $100-million payrolls are relying on Wandy's 5.25 ERA in 22 starts and 130-1/3 innings of interleague play to conclude that he can't pitch against the American League. First, the same size is small. Second, it's not as if his interleague play is against an equal sample of all the teams in the American League and that the composition of those teams never changes. The contract and injury history are likely the bigger concerns.

But it's almost certain he'll be moved at this point.

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2011, 11:18:04 am »
Wandy doesn't have much of an injury history (though I am concerned).  He has been pretty durable.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 11:51:33 am »
Morosi via Twitter: Source says "50/50" chance of Wandy Rodriguez trade. #Yankees among teams involved. #Astros

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 11:58:08 am »
Wandy doesn't have much of an injury history (though I am concerned).  He has been pretty durable.

Maybe this is just conjecture, but Wandy doesn't seem like the kind of starter who's going to go right to a new team and start producing, especially if he's in a new league. Maybe I'm putting too much stock in how long it took him to become a consistent pitcher for Houston, and his long-held tendency to lose it when things got rough on the mound, but I wonder if he has the makeup to go right to a contender in the heat of a pennant race.

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 12:30:54 pm »
Morosi via Twitter: Source says "50/50" chance of Wandy Rodriguez trade. #Yankees among teams involved. #Astros

With Pence and Bourn being dealt as part of a salary dump I don't know how any of this can be viewed as successful without dealing at least Wandy if not both he and Myers.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2011, 12:42:45 pm »
If it is only aout salary, can't they find a team Carlos is amenable to and say "we'll give you 12 million next year to take him." That would save 7 miilion (I think). Carlos is probaly worth 7 million to some team.

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 01:50:16 pm »
Pinweheel tweeting Cleveland for 2 minor leaguers.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 01:50:47 pm »
Per Richard Justice tweet...hears that Astros close to trading Wandy to Cleveland for two minor leaguers....

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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 01:51:25 pm »
apparently blue jays in for wandy too.

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 01:51:46 pm »
Per Richard Justice tweet...hears that Astros close to trading Wandy to Cleveland for two minor leaguers that no one will want in Houston....

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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 01:59:31 pm »
Stark says Blue Jays most likely, but nothing close.
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 02:00:33 pm »
saying on MLB TV that Astros are requiring suitors to pick up entire contract ($39MM) which seems unlikely
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2011, 02:00:47 pm »
Stark says Blue Jays most likely, but nothing close.

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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2011, 02:01:27 pm »
saying on MLB TV that Astros are requiring suitors to pick up entire contract ($39MM) which seems unlikely

If that happens then the Astros will take the old bag of beat up rag balls and be happy about it.
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2011, 02:01:45 pm »
No real rush - waivers should be fine
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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2011, 02:02:01 pm »
Why is his contract seen as such a big deal?  His salary is not out of line with his performance.

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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2011, 02:03:27 pm »
Why is his contract seen as such a big deal?  His salary is not out of line with his performance.

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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2011, 02:03:53 pm »
Why is his contract seen as such a big deal?  His salary is not out of line with his performance.

Performance obviously has nothing to do with it. Carlos is eating up a third of next year's payroll. He can't be moved so you move who you can.
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2011, 02:04:36 pm »
Why is his contract seen as such a big deal?  His salary is not out of line with his performance.

Oh, I see, sorry. No, it should not be a big deal at all. I doubt that it is.
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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2011, 02:05:45 pm »
Performance obviously has nothing to do with it. Carlos is eating up a third of next year's payroll. He can't be moved so you move who you can.
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2011, 02:10:08 pm »
Have you not seen how wade kicks in cash on every deal?  It's not my money and I don't care but one would be foolish to not represent that it mattered in hopes the stros pick up some of the tab.

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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2011, 02:50:41 pm »
Stark reports the Astros are done trading for the day.
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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2011, 03:16:14 pm »
The problem with waiting until August is that if a team wants him and is capable of taking on the full salary (Yankees) then they'll get him for nothing.  Might be better to wait until the off-season.
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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2011, 03:27:43 pm »
If/When Wandy gets traded then Crane, Postolos plus the new GM (Friedman or Hunsicker) are going to be taking over a virtually clean slate.  The only salary obligations will be Carlos' 19 mil and Myers 12 mil in 2012, nothing else.  They will also have a minor league system that went from dead last to probably the middle of the pack.

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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2011, 03:35:52 pm »
They will also have a minor league system that went from dead last to probably the middle of the pack.


The farm wasn't quite dead last. They might've been more like 25th, if you ranked them prior to the Altuve call-up. But it's sad that they traded their two best players, in a buyers' market (even kicking in cash for Pete's sake!) and likely aren't better than middle of the pack still.
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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2011, 03:41:39 pm »
The farm wasn't quite dead last. They might've been more like 25th, if you ranked them prior to the Altuve call-up. But it's sad that they traded their two best players, in a buyers' market (even kicking in cash for Pete's sake!) and likely aren't better than middle of the pack still.

More a reflection of the dearth of talent than what they got back.  More and more teams place more and more emphasis on their younger and cheaper talent.
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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2011, 03:52:58 pm »
Not saying they were dead last coming into this year, but as recently as 2 years ago they were right near the bottom.
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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2011, 05:13:53 pm »
Everyone seems to think there is zero chance wandy will get claimed, so I guess his contract isn't as reasonable as some here think
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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2011, 06:11:41 pm »
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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2011, 06:21:09 pm »
They don't.  Pudnits do.

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« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2011, 06:23:03 pm »
The farm wasn't quite dead last. They might've been more like 25th, if you ranked them prior to the Altuve call-up. But it's sad that they traded their two best players, in a buyers' market (even kicking in cash for Pete's sake!) and likely aren't better than middle of the pack still.

It's sad, but that's how long it takes and hard it is to get back when it's so badly neglected by ownership for so long. You have to think working in player development for the Astros was a pretty rueful task in the mid-2000s.

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« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2011, 06:25:49 pm »
It's sad, but that's how long it takes and hard it is to get back when it's so badly neglected by ownership for so long. You have to think working in player development for the Astros was a pretty rueful task in the mid-2000s.

I don't think it was neglect.  Drayton was hardly an absentee landlord. 
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« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2011, 06:31:43 pm »
I don't think it was neglect.  Drayton was hardly an absentee landlord. 

The farm system was absolutely neglected in lieu of diverting money to keeping Biggio/Bagwell, signing Lee, et al.

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« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2011, 06:36:04 pm »
The farm system was absolutely neglected in lieu of diverting money to keeping Biggio/Bagwell, signing Lee, et al.

Oh, I see.  Yes.  But that wasn't neglect so much as a conscious choice to harvest it.  Redevelopment of the farm was left to Purpura whose credibility was established by a good farm system.  He sucked at redeveloping it.    
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« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2011, 06:37:51 pm »
The farm system was absolutely neglected in lieu of diverting money to keeping Biggio/Bagwell, signing Lee, et al.

That might be what happened, but I seriously doubt that Purpura intended that result.
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« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2011, 06:42:06 pm »
That might be what happened, but I seriously doubt that Purpura intended that result.

Hunsicker was dealing with it in his last drafts.  Players were drafted with signability being a 1a level concern. Purpura had to work within those guidelines as well, including the "don't go over slot" mantra.  Wade may be a first class moron, but some combination of he and TG Shepherd convinced McLane to shift focus.

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« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2011, 06:43:02 pm »
Oh, I see.  Yes.  But that wasn't neglect so much as a conscious choice to harvest it.  Redevelopment of the farm was left to Purpura whose credibility was established by a good farm system.  He sucked at redeveloping it.   

He sucked with handcuffs on.  Which may or may not be something that Drayton is into.

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« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2011, 07:33:54 pm »
Hunsicker was dealing with it in his last drafts.  Players were drafted with signability being a 1a level concern. Purpura had to work within those guidelines as well, including the "don't go over slot" mantra.  Wade may be a first class moron, but some combination of he and TG Shepherd convinced McLane to shift focus.

Yep, you're right. Slot has done the Astros a serious disservice.
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« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2011, 09:49:51 pm »
Yep, you're right. Slot has done the Astros a serious disservice.

Slot itself wasn't the problem.  You can find guys like Trout and many Twins/Braves selections for slot.  It was the combination of slot and lack of high-ceiling selections that were the problem. 

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« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2011, 09:51:07 pm »
Slot itself wasn't the problem.  You can find guys like Trout and many Twins/Braves selections for slot.  It was the combination of slot and lack of high-ceiling selections that were the problem. 

Slot sure as hell didn't help. See Stubbs, Drew.
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« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2011, 10:07:27 pm »
Slot sure as hell didn't help. See Stubbs, Drew.

I won't argue that it did.  Though, on the flip side, they didn't have a lot of luck when they did manage to go over (Patton, etc).  Maybe they would have drafted more aggressively with a larger budget, but they didn't do well with what they did have.

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« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2011, 10:25:05 pm »
I won't argue that it did.  Though, on the flip side, they didn't have a lot of luck when they did manage to go over (Patton, etc).  Maybe they would have drafted more aggressively with a larger budget, but they didn't do well with what they did have.

Patton made it from high school to the majors in just 4 years, and would have been a pretty good MLB pitcher if not for his injuries. Either way, they were able to trade him for Tejada, so going over slot in that case worked out pretty well and could have been a home run with some luck. To reference the discussion in the Bourn thread, the quickest way for an MLB team to get better is organizational spending from top to bottom. That's how the Yankees have done it, but not every team can afford to take fliers on Boras clients and overrated Japanese imports.

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« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2011, 10:09:19 pm »
Say what one will about Purpura and Wade, but the buck stops with Drayton on that one. He was a great owner in some ways, but he still had a fundamental ignorance about certain aspects of the game. Hunsicker got sick of dealing with it. Purpura and Wade put up with it, to their detriment.

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« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2011, 10:13:49 pm »
Patton made it from high school to the majors in just 4 years, and would have been a pretty good MLB pitcher if not for his injuries. Either way, they were able to trade him for Tejada, so going over slot in that case worked out pretty well and could have been a home run with some luck. To reference the discussion in the Bourn thread, the quickest way for an MLB team to get better is organizational spending from top to bottom. That's how the Yankees have done it, but not every team can afford to take fliers on Boras clients and overrated Japanese imports.

It's interesting you mention that. The Orioles, Dodgers and Mets may be poster children for the argument that spending doesn't equate with success, but the Yankees may have made as many questionable signings as those teams put together. They've spent so much money, though, that they've been successful anyway.

The best thing the Yankees have done the past 20 years is develop and retain the services of Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Williams, et al. I've had Yankees fans argue to me that the Yankees aren't just about money, they're also about development. Of course, no other team could afford to retain that core of talent the way the Yankees did.

If you look at the revolving door of starting pitchers earning double-figures with the Yankees who've been a bust, there's been a huge amount of money wasted there. Probably enough money to cover the entire payrolls of lesser teams.

The Yankees are smarter than a lot of the other high-spending franchises, but their main blessing is still their local TV money, and they've made more than their share of mistakes.

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« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2011, 07:33:23 am »
It's interesting you mention that. The Orioles, Dodgers and Mets may be poster children for the argument that spending doesn't equate with success, but the Yankees may have made as many questionable signings as those teams put together. They've spent so much money, though, that they've been successful anyway.

The best thing the Yankees have done the past 20 years is develop and retain the services of Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Williams, et al. I've had Yankees fans argue to me that the Yankees aren't just about money, they're also about development. Of course, no other team could afford to retain that core of talent the way the Yankees did.

If you look at the revolving door of starting pitchers earning double-figures with the Yankees who've been a bust, there's been a huge amount of money wasted there. Probably enough money to cover the entire payrolls of lesser teams.

The Yankees are smarter than a lot of the other high-spending franchises, but their main blessing is still their local TV money, and they've made more than their share of mistakes.

Most teams could not afford to pay an aging, limited SS 48mil over three years primarily so this walking team legend could record his 3000th hit in year 1 of the deal.  I wonder what the Yankees will do with Jeter in a year's time?
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2011, 11:35:38 am »
If/When Wandy gets traded then Crane, Postolos plus the new GM (Friedman or Hunsicker) are going to be taking over a virtually clean slate.  The only salary obligations will be Carlos' 19 mil and Myers 12 mil in 2012, nothing else.  They will also have a minor league system that went from dead last to probably the middle of the pack.


What makes you say Crane will hire Friedman or Hunsicker?
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2011, 01:39:29 pm »
Most teams could not afford to pay an aging, limited SS 48mil over three years primarily so this walking team legend could record his 3000th hit in year 1 of the deal.  I wonder what the Yankees will do with Jeter in a year's time?

See Biggio, Craig.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2011, 01:44:56 pm »
See Biggio, Craig.
How are they comparable? Biggio was on a one-year deal when he got #3,000. The Yanks owe Jeter a bazillion dollars for the next two or three years. I'm not sure what point you are making.
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2011, 01:48:26 pm »
See Biggio, Craig.
5 mil/yr  =/=  16 mil/yr
1 year   =/=   3 year, with 4th year player option

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2011, 01:50:40 pm »
5 mil/yr  =/=  16 mil/yr
1 year   =/=   3 year, with 4th year player option

Yeah but one is Jeeeetar!

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2011, 01:57:26 pm »
5 mil/yr  =/=  16 mil/yr
1 year   =/=   3 year, with 4th year player option


each are approx 5 mm per.  Yankmees payroll est 250 mm.  Stros (at that time) probably 90 mm.  I know the equivalent values are not the same, but both players were kept around for the same reasons

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2011, 02:00:24 pm »

each are approx 5 mm per.  Yankmees payroll est 250 mm.  Stros (at that time) probably 90 mm.  I know the equivalent values are not the same, but both players were kept around for the same reasons

Definitely, but how can one defend the extra two years and player option on Jeter's contract?  I guess you don't have to hit or field when your only job is to will your team to victory.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2011, 02:01:15 pm »

each are approx 5 mm per.  Yankmees payroll est 250 mm.  Stros (at that time) probably 90 mm.  I know the equivalent values are not the same, but both players were kept around for the same reasons

At 1/3 the price, per year, and for a shorter commitment.  Care to share whatever you are smoking?
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2011, 02:19:22 pm »
At 1/3 the price, per year, and for a shorter commitment.  Care to share whatever you are smoking?

I misremembered..err misread.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2011, 05:28:19 pm »
Yeah but one is Jeeeetar!

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2011, 06:45:04 pm »
Definitely, but how can one defend the extra two years and player option on Jeter's contract?  I guess you don't have to hit or field when your only job is to will your team to victory.

From a business perspective, it's well worth it to keep guys like him and Biggio around. Maybe slightly less so once they've hit their milestone numbers, but there will always be fans who come to the ballpark just to see the aging legend. It's the Carlos Lee contracts you want to avoid, where you have a guy making aging legend money with aging legend production but without the aging legend appeal.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2011, 10:26:33 pm »
What makes you say Crane will hire Friedman or Hunsicker?

Both are close to Crane.  Close enough to smell fire or smoke or sumpthin.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2011, 10:27:43 pm »
And I heard Gerry is really ready to get back in a GM role.  Sticking it to Drayton would be icing.
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2011, 10:39:50 pm »
And I heard Gerry is really ready to get back in a GM role.  Sticking it to Drayton would be icing.

It is not that quiet a secret either that he is interested on what is happening here.  However, GH is a friend of Ed Wade too... wonder if the Hun would want a Prez job instead.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2011, 11:02:23 pm »
No way in hell Ed is here next year.
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2011, 11:40:48 pm »
No way in hell Ed is here next year.

May be some scenarios where he survives... even as GM.  The Hun as Prez is one of them because Ed won't be doing the same thing he's doing now under Smith and McLane.  He'd be rebuilding a farm system and giving crying towels to the new manager every couple of weeks.  Gonna need a lot of towels too.

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #76 on: August 03, 2011, 07:42:33 am »
Unless Crane/Postolos feel like the owe it to him for taking all the heat for stripping this thing to the frame, I just can't see Ed hanging around.

Plus not sure if you heard but the Braves execs claim Ed is going to work for Ruben Amaro next year.

I think hiring Gerry would give the new guys a good jolt of PR too.
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #77 on: August 03, 2011, 07:50:35 am »
That claim sounds like sour grapes and makes little sense given the Bourn trade.  Given how much I've heard that "Ed got fleeced on the Bourn deal," why would a GM hire another GM who gave a sweetheart deal to their rival? 

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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #78 on: August 03, 2011, 08:23:05 am »
Of course it is sour grapes and really unprofessional to be leaking that shit to their beat writer.
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Re: Where will Wandy go?
« Reply #79 on: August 03, 2011, 03:14:07 pm »
Unless Crane/Postolos feel like the owe it to him for taking all the heat for stripping this thing to the frame, I just can't see Ed hanging around.

Plus not sure if you heard but the Braves execs claim Ed is going to work for Ruben Amaro next year.

I think hiring Gerry would give the new guys a good jolt of PR too.

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