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Myers and Kepp on the block
« on: June 17, 2011, 06:40:03 pm »
Per MLBTR anyway... LINK

MLB.com's Bill Ladson hears that [the Astros] are looking to trade both Brett Myers and Jeff Keppinger...
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Re: Myers and Kepp on the block
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 07:01:16 pm »
Per MLBTR anyway... LINK

MLB.com's Bill Ladson hears that [the Astros] are looking to trade both Brett Myers and Jeff Keppinger...

I wish they would have thought about this last season, I doubt a starting pitcher with a 5+ ERA will get you much.

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Re: Myers and Kepp on the block
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 08:04:35 pm »
I wish they would have thought about this last season, I doubt a starting pitcher with a 5+ ERA will get you much.
i'm pretty sure they did. 

wade reportedly asked the mets for bobby parnell and josh thole:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38500632/ns/sports-player_news/

..and the twins for a package including kyle gibson (twins top SP prospect) from the twins:
http://www.yardbarker.com/all_sports/articles/astros_and_twins_talking_about_brett_myers/2970751





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Re: Myers and Kepp on the block
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 10:24:01 am »
Pence would bring a haul right now.

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2011, 11:13:17 am »
I like both of those packages although think they've both been shot down. Wade is aiming high.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2011, 12:08:05 pm »
I can't believe this is big news. I would think the whole team is on the block. Maybe Lyles and Norris would be the least likely to be available, but they would probably still take the call
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2011, 01:09:32 pm »
I wish they would have thought about this last season, I doubt a starting pitcher with a 5+ ERA will get you much.

I'm crediting you with an assist for last night.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2011, 02:31:39 pm »
I'm crediting you with an assist for last night.

He still gave up his mandatory home run, although he waited until the 9th to do it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2011, 03:43:12 pm »
Myers first start since Arnie left is his best of the season. Probably nothing to it but I wonder id Brocail asked him to do anything different?
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 04:15:32 pm »
Myers first start since Arnie left is his best of the season. Probably nothing to it but I wonder id Brocail asked him to do anything different?

Brocail doesn't ask. He just looked at him.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2011, 05:18:45 pm »
Brocail doesn't ask. He just looked at him.

And Brett screamed like a girl and said, "Yes Mr. Brocail!"
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2011, 11:33:51 pm »
Why trade Norris?

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2011, 07:52:26 am »
I thought Norris was one of the few 'untouchables' on the roster.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2011, 10:32:39 am »
I didn't say trade him. He would one of the last players I would want to see traded, along with Lyles.

If Tampa called and asked for Norris and would take Lee and Lyon and their salaries to get him, plus let us raid their farm....might be worth considering. It won't happen, I know, but I can't think that anyone is completely untouchable.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2011, 01:24:52 pm »
i'd put norris and lyles on the untouchable list. i'd hate to see wallace and bourn leave.  

pence would absolutely be on the block if someone wanted to empty out the farm for him.
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2011, 09:20:39 pm »
I would not be surprised to see some interest in Wandy.

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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 09:56:19 am »
I didn't say trade him. He would one of the last players I would want to see traded, along with Lyles.

If Tampa called and asked for Norris and would take Lee and Lyon and their salaries to get him, plus let us raid their farm....might be worth considering. It won't happen, I know, but I can't think that anyone is completely untouchable.

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Re: Myers and Kepp on the block
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2011, 10:15:58 am »
This starting pitching staff is really starting to take shape.  If Myers gets back close to what he was last year and Bud keeps progressing and Lyles comes on.  In terms of next year, the outfield should remain the same.  Wallace & Castro are pretty much locked in.  Seems to me #1 area to add $ would be the bullpen or 3rd.   If they had a an A+ pen, this team could be .500 team starting next season.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2011, 10:48:26 am »
This starting pitching staff is really starting to take shape.  If Myers gets back close to what he was last year and Bud keeps progressing and Lyles comes on.  In terms of next year, the outfield should remain the same.  Wallace & Castro are pretty much locked in.  Seems to me #1 area to add $ would be the bullpen or 3rd.   If they had a an A+ pen, this team could be .500 team starting next season.

The problem with an A+ pen by design is you generally have to overspend (in the context of the Astros payroll) to get one, and even then it might not work out.  Even the priciest relievers are up and down over the course of a career.  Sometimes an A+ pen seems more like a happy accident - a collection of so-so journeymen and young upstarts all having good-to-great years at once.  I'm all for that.  And I know a decent pen requires for more to happen than just random chance, but I'd rather they spend whatever money they are going to spend somewhere else.

Isn't Wade supposed to be a whiz at throwing together a decent pen with spare parts and has-beens and never was-es?  I think I remember some talk about this when he took the Houston job.  Hunsicker was pretty good at it, too, IIRC.  I'd prefer that to spending $$$ on established free agent relievers, who may or may not perform up to their expectations.

I don't disagree that this pen has less than successful this far, to put it mildly.  Or that a more reliable pen would have made a big difference so far this season.  I just hope it doesn't cost too much to fix what is out there now.

Also, nothing against Escalona, but I really wish they'd just forget about the "left-handed specialist" concept.  It seems like an absolute waste of resources to take up a roster spot for a guy who is brought in to pitch to one or two hitters, sometimes successfully, sometimes not.  But that is another subject.

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2011, 10:54:19 am »

Also, nothing against Escalona, but I really wish they'd just forget about the "left-handed specialist" concept.  It seems like an absolute waste of resources to take up a roster spot for a guy who is brought in to pitch to one or two hitters, sometimes successfully, sometimes not.  But that is another subject.

Don't get me started... The concepts of "specialists" and one inning pitchers are, in my opinion, short-sided and foolish. The evolution from "fireman" to "closer" has, in my opinion, been unfortunate. Give me Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage or Sparky Lyle any day of the week. Hell, at this point, I'd even settle for Fred Gladding.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2011, 11:01:33 am »
Don't get me started... The concepts of "specialists" and one inning pitchers are, in my opinion, short-sided and foolish. The evolution from "fireman" to "closer" has, in my opinion, been unfortunate. Give me Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage or Sparky Lyle any day of the week. Hell, at this point, I'd even settle for Fred Gladding.

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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2011, 11:11:45 am »
or Roy Face.

or Joe Sambito.  Until he got to the AL at the end of his career, LHP Sambito always averaged well over 1 IP per appearence.  Plus, he had a great haircut.