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« on: May 31, 2011, 10:15:05 pm »
three good things

(1) In May, Pence has hit .330.  In his last seven games, Pence's OPS has been 1.239.  You have just watched a major league month.
(2) Lyles.  Pretty good start.
(3) Brandon Lyon.  I have never before been so glad someone might be injured.  It was better than the alternative.  It was a sad month.

three things that didn't change

(1)  Bourn's OBP is more or less .340.  He's a fine base stealer.  I saw him make a stupid error that cost a game.  He's a necessity for a great offensive team, for this team he's a luxury.
(2)  Bill Hall.  I have all the good will in the world for Hall.  He's an ok pinch runner.  I'm glad Keppinger is back. 
(3)  Lee is having last year's season.

three things that are inexplicable.

(1)  What the fuck is wrong with Myers?
(2)  Why can't Towles be as good as I wished he were?  I have all the good will in the world for the guy.
(3)  Who names their child Aneury?

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 11:59:04 pm »
(3)  Who names their child Aneury?

If you listened to KPFT on Sundays you would wonder who would name their child with just a nuri and not another.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 12:04:51 am »
Speaking of funky names, the kid who pitched for the Trolley Dojers last series at the MMPUS and made his major league debut was just plain filthy.  With a name like Rubby, he better be.  Dude was just incredibly filthy.

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 08:56:13 am »
Point of order: Lee hit .316 and slugged .453 in May. Not what I'd hope the team could get for $19 million, but definitely an improvement over 2010. If he can keep that up, the Astros just miiiiiight be able to find a contender who's interested (read: desperate).
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 09:04:53 am »
Point of order: Lee hit .316 and slugged .453 in May. Not what I'd hope the team could get for $19 million, but definitely an improvement over 2010. If he can keep that up, the Astros just miiiiiight be able to find a contender who's interested (read: desperate).

Did he?!  I swear I saw him get maybe 5 hits all month.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 09:08:14 am »
Did he?!  I swear I saw him get maybe 5 hits all month.

Yeah, my completely unscientific and flawed memory remembers a lot of pop-ups and rolling over on the first pitch.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 09:14:14 am »
Point of order: Lee hit .316 and slugged .453 in May. Not what I'd hope the team could get for $19 million, but definitely an improvement over 2010. If he can keep that up, the Astros just miiiiiight be able to find a contender who's interested (read: desperate).

I'd be just as happy if Lee continues hitting and helps the team actually pick up some wins and scoot back toward .500. From the games I see, everybody's playing hard and fighting, Lee included. I know it's the bullpen more than anything else, but if all you're getting from Lee is a partial salary dump (one of those things where the Astros pay him to play elsewhere for the next three years) and a mid-level prospect or reliever, then Lee might as well stay and help the young team win. It's not like there's a LF prospect waiting to take his spot.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 09:29:56 am »
I'd gladly sub out Lee for a prospect and Bourgeois starting in LF. I don't think that production is going to hold.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 09:50:51 am »
Point of order: Lee hit .316 and slugged .453 in May. Not what I'd hope the team could get for $19 million, but definitely an improvement over 2010. If he can keep that up, the Astros just miiiiiight be able to find a contender who's interested (read: desperate).

That really surprises me, but it's good.  If he keeps it up, I'll buy one of those silly hats and a stick pony.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 10:05:15 am »
Point of order: Lee hit .316 and slugged .453 in May. Not what I'd hope the team could get for $19 million, but definitely an improvement over 2010. If he can keep that up, the Astros just miiiiiight be able to find a contender who's interested (read: desperate).

If memory serves I witnessed 3 infield hits this month from Lee.  The average is a nice improvement.  Definitely still hustling.  Still doesn't draw a walk, a massive 4 for the month.  He's never walked a lot, but this year has been his worst at drawing them.  Probably pitchers adjusting to his declining power.

A got to say though, the defense is horrendous. That double he gave up to DeWitt last night had me gagging on some throw up.  Sure he catches everything he gets to, but as the days get hotter the range seems to be getting smaller, if that's possible?

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2011, 10:09:48 am »
If he keeps it up, I'll buy one of those silly hats and a stick pony.

This is where he is right now.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 10:13:54 am »
If memory serves I witnessed 3 infield hits this month from Lee.  The average is a nice improvement.  Definitely still hustling.  Still doesn't draw a walk, a massive 4 for the month.  He's never walked a lot, but this year has been his worst at drawing them.  Probably pitchers adjusting to his declining power.

A got to say though, the defense is horrendous. That double he gave up to DeWitt last night had me gagging on some throw up.  Sure he catches everything he gets to, but as the days get hotter the range seems to be getting smaller, if that's possible?


he backed off of a collision on that one. the problem was poor communication with Barmes, not lack of range/hustle.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2011, 10:15:51 am »
he backed off of a collision on that one. the problem was poor communication with Barmes, not lack of range/hustle.

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 10:18:07 am »
he backed off of a collision on that one. the problem was poor communication with Barmes, not lack of range/hustle.

And here I thought Barmes was yelling, "Don't hurt me.  Don't hurt me."
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 10:23:07 am »
he backed off of a collision on that one. the problem was poor communication with Barmes, not lack of range/hustle.

Don't shoot me if I'm wrong here but I thought in that situation, it's the outfielder's ball to call.  If he had even average speed he would have been under that one and would have long called off Barmes.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2011, 10:26:02 am »
Don't shoot me if I'm wrong here but I thought in that situation, it's the outfielder's ball to call.  If he had even average speed he would have been under that one and would have long called off Barmes.

it is the OFer's job to call. Lee still backed away from running into Barmes. he would have caught it if he had not looked at him and stopped. poor communication kept Barmes going hard for the ball.
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2011, 10:34:25 am »
it is the OFer's job to call. Lee still backed away from running into Barmes. he would have caught it if he had not looked at him and stopped. poor communication kept Barmes going hard for the ball.

So what you are saying is, Lee screwed up by not realizing early enough that it an easy catch for him and he should have called off Barmes early on that play, prior to Barmes getting in the way. 

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2011, 10:41:19 am »
So what you are saying is, Lee screwed up by not realizing early enough that it an easy catch for him and he should have called off Barmes early on that play, prior to Barmes getting in the way. 

yes. he did not call soon or forcefully enough, and he allowed Barmes to make him shy away.
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2011, 10:41:41 am »
I doubt Lee realized it was an easy catch for him.  Miscommunication for sure.  

All in all, Lee gets too much criticism for his defense, IMO.  He's slow but he fields well.  I almost think he would have played that double as well as Michaels.  Still would have been a double though.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 10:42:26 am »
and he allowed Barmes to make him shy away.

Probably a result from Post Angel Sanchez Syndrom

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2011, 10:47:18 am »
And here I thought Barmes was yelling, "Don't hurt me.  Don't hurt me."

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2011, 10:49:29 am »
I doubt Lee realized it was an easy catch for him.  Miscommunication for sure.  

All in all, Lee gets too much criticism for his defense, IMO.  He's slow but he fields well.  I almost think he would have played that double as well as Michaels.  Still would have been a double though.

He's not the worst corner outfielder in the league.  Or in the Astros' lineup.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2011, 10:51:00 am »
three good things

(1) In May, Pence has hit .330.  In his last seven games, Pence's OPS has been 1.239.  You have just watched a major league month.
(2) Lyles.  Pretty good start.
(3) Brandon Lyon.  I have never before been so glad someone might be injured.  It was better than the alternative.  It was a sad month.

three things that didn't change

(1)  Bourn's OBP is more or less .340.  He's a fine base stealer.  I saw him make a stupid error that cost a game.  He's a necessity for a great offensive team, for this team he's a luxury.
(2)  Bill Hall.  I have all the good will in the world for Hall.  He's an ok pinch runner.  I'm glad Keppinger is back. 
(3)  Lee is having last year's season.

three things that are inexplicable.

(1)  What the fuck is wrong with Myers?
(2)  Why can't Towles be as good as I wished he were?  I have all the good will in the world for the guy.
(3)  Who names their child Aneury?



The Astros are seventh in the league in runs scored, 11th in OBP and ninth in slugging. This is surprisingly good. Bourn is on pace to score 112 runs and Pence is on pace to drive in 127 runs. (They are also on pace to strike out 141 and 144 times, respectively.)

They are 15th in the league in ERA, with the starters 14th and the relievers 15th. This is surprisingly bad.

To me, the most positive development for the Astros long-term is Wallace batting .316/.385/.463.


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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 10:53:09 am »
The Astros are seventh in the league in runs scored, 11th in OBP and ninth in slugging. This is surprisingly good. Bourn is on pace to score 112 runs and Pence is on pace to drive in 127 runs. (They are also on pace to strike out 141 and 144 times, respectively.)

Pence, Wallace, and Bourn are largely to thank to this.  Also the insane, complete-outlier performance of the catchers in April.

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They are 15th in the league in ERA, with the starters 14th and the relievers 15th. This is surprisingly bad.

This is on Myers (by a landslide), Happ, and the bullpen, which I will no longer discuss.

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To me, the most positive development for the Astros long-term is Wallace batting .316/.385/.463.

Absolutely, but by the end of the season, I hope that performance (held constant) won't be the most positive development, if last night is any indication.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2011, 10:53:15 am »
He's not the worst corner outfielder in the league.  Or in the Astros' lineup.

Tough call.  Pence's aspect changes or Lee directly to target.  I'd like to see a race.

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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2011, 10:53:20 am »
He's not the worst corner outfielder in the league.  Or in the Astros' lineup.

After watching Braun "patrol" left, or Soriano, Carlos looks great.

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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 10:55:18 am »
After watching Braun "patrol" left, or Soriano, Carlos looks great.

Putting Generalissimo Franco's dessicated corpse in LF wouldn't make Carlos look great.
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2011, 10:59:06 am »
After watching Braun "patrol" left, or Soriano, Carlos looks great.

And how quickly people forget the comedy defensive stylings of Dmitri Young and Dante Bichette.

Lee does his best, which isn't horrible.  Pence infuriates me because he'd be decent if he could only take a beat to see where the ball is fucking going before taking off like a greyhound out of the traps.  His speed gives him time, yet he refuses to use it.
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2011, 11:12:30 am »
And how quickly people forget the comedy defensive stylings of Dmitri Young and Dante Bichette.

Lee does his best, which isn't horrible.  Pence infuriates me because he'd be decent if he could only take a beat to see where the ball is fucking going before taking off like a greyhound out of the traps.  His speed gives him time, yet he refuses to use it.

Perhaps the bug-eyes make it more difficult to focus. He has 270-degree field of vision, so he cannot concentrate on the ball right in front of him.

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2011, 11:20:09 am »
Putting Generalissimo Franco's dessicated corpse in LF wouldn't make Carlos look great.

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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2011, 11:40:59 am »
What happens to Aneury when Wandy comes back? 

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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2011, 11:45:46 am »
What happens to Aneury when Wandy comes back? 

He stays. He's a Rule 5 guy, so unless we want to give up on him, he stays on the big-league roster. And I think his stuff is good enough (and he's young enough) that we can't afford to just give up on him. I imagine that Lyles goes back down.
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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2011, 11:48:54 am »
He stays. He's a Rule 5 guy, so unless we want to give up on him, he stays on the big-league roster. And I think his stuff is good enough (and he's young enough) that we can't afford to just give up on him. I imagine that Lyles goes back down.

or Anuery goes to the bullpen and Lyles stays.

I fully expect an injury with Myers.
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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2011, 12:23:38 pm »
Perhaps the bug-eyes make it more difficult to focus. He has 270-degree field of vision, so he cannot concentrate on the ball right in front of him.

I remember hearing a sports talk show interview with some NBA historian and he actually said that Oscar Robertson was a great point guard with awesome court vision because he had bug eyes.  I did a spit take on that one because he was dead serious.

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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2011, 12:31:30 pm »
I fully expect an injury with Myers.

After your display of power in last night's GZ, this scares me a little bit.
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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2011, 12:32:15 pm »
After your display of power in last night's GZ, this scares me a little bit.

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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2011, 12:35:23 pm »
I fully expect an injury with Myers.

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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2011, 12:36:19 pm »
And how quickly people forget the comedy defensive stylings of Dmitri Young and Dante Bichette.

Lee does his best, which isn't horrible.  Pence infuriates me because he'd be decent if he could only take a beat to see where the ball is fucking going before taking off like a greyhound out of the traps.  His speed gives him time, yet he refuses to use it.

Funniest play by a CF I've ever seen was when Underpants was learning how to play CF in Round Rock.  There can be some swirling winds inside the park sometimes, so on this night it didn't seem particularly windy, but nonetheless there was enough wind to cause this hilarious play to develop.  

This was somewhere in the 8th inning or so, Pence is in CF and the Express are leading by several runs.  However, the opposing team has men on base and their best slugger is at bat.  He hits what looks like a gapper to left centerfield.  Pence hears the crack of the bat, notices the ball is traveling to his right (our left) and he puts his head down and start to run hard... head still down.  He is running and running and running, never once looking at the flight of the ball... he head was firmly looking at his feet picking up turf and laying it down.  My dog does this sometimes, and once he ran right smack into a tree while chasing a flying HEB sack across the back yard.  Back to Pence... I am wanting so much to scream "LOOK UP!!!!", but decide it is best to see how this play turns out.

Well Pence decides he probably has done the fair amount of running to a spot where he thinks the ball will land (as if he has some sort of magical mathematical mind to measure speed, force, distance, wind velocity, and trajectory in his head that no one else has).  He slows down to try and find the ball just as the ball is on it's last few feet from landing.  The problem is, the ball is landing pretty much where Pence has abandoned several yards away.  The bend on the ball with the wind made the ball land somewhere nearer to where Pence was and nowhere near where he now resided.  Had he kept his *eye on the ball* and not his feet, he would have noticed that  he didn't have to run as hard, maybe take several jogging steps from his position over his right.  There was an awkward silence and then some laughter by some in the crowd, me included.  It looked like something out of a Buster Keaton movie.  The ball sitting there on the ground near centerfield with no CF in sight because he was now over in left centerfield gap looking back where he used to be with the "Aw shit!" look on his face.
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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2011, 12:43:02 pm »
Funniest play by a CF I've ever seen was when Underpants was learning how to play CF in Round Rock.  There can be some swirling winds inside the park sometimes, so on this night it didn't seem particularly windy, but nonetheless there was enough wind to cause this hilarious play to develop.  

This was somewhere in the 8th inning or so, Pence is in CF and the Express are leading by several runs.  However, the opposing team has men on base and their best slugger is at bat.  He hits what looks like a gapper to left centerfield.  Pence hears the crack of the bat, notices the ball is traveling to his right (our left) and he puts his head down and start to run hard... head still down.  He is running and running and running, never once looking at the flight of the ball... he head was firmly looking at his feet picking up turf and laying it down.  My dog does this sometimes, and once he ran right smack into a tree while chasing a flying HEB sack across the back yard.  Back to Pence... I am wanting so much to scream "LOOK UP!!!!", but decide it is best to see how this play turns out.

Well Pence decides he probably has done the fair amount of running to a spot where he thinks the ball will land (as if he has some sort of magical mathematical mind to measure speed, force, distance, wind velocity, and trajectory in his head that no one else has).  He slows down to try and find the ball just as the ball is on it's last few feet from landing.  The problem is, the ball is landing pretty much where Pence has abandoned several yards away.  The bend on the ball with the wind made the ball land somewhere nearer to where Pence was and nowhere near where he now resided.  Had he kept his *eye on the ball* and not his feet, he would have noticed that  he didn't have to run as hard, maybe take several jogging steps from his position over his right.  There was an awkward silence and then some laughter by some in the crowd, me included.  It looked like something out of a Buster Keaton movie.  The ball sitting there on the ground near centerfield with no CF in sight because he was now over in left centerfield gap looking back where he used to be with the "Aw shit!" look on his face.


I had a good laugh at this, but then I began to feel sorrow when think about how the subject individual is now the face of the franchise!

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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2011, 12:51:10 pm »
After your display of power in last night's GZ, this scares me a little bit.

I've been thinking it for weeks.  The last time I saw him pitch at MMP, he just didn't seem right.  Just a feeling and one I'll be more than happy to be wrong about.
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« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2011, 06:03:20 pm »
Putting Generalissimo Franco's dessicated corpse in LF wouldn't make Carlos look great.

Is the Generalissimo still dead?
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Re: May
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2011, 06:33:00 pm »
Perhaps the bug-eyes make it more difficult to focus. He has 270-degree field of vision, so he cannot concentrate on the ball large pane of glass right in front of him.

Fixed.