Schaub Hospitalised with Knee Injury

[Limey]

So that's Kubiak's arse covered then.

[Astroholic]

gonna need more than one day hospital stay for a out.

[Limey]

gonna need more than one day hospital stay for a out.

Playing hurt last few weeks...blah, blah, blah...offense not firing on all cylinders...blah, blah, blah...

It may not be legit, but it'll be used.

[Astroholic]

Playing hurt last few weeks...blah, blah, blah...offense not firing on all cylinders...blah, blah, blah...

It may not be legit, but it'll be used.

Fire his ass blah, blah, blah.  

Schaub played well enough to win the last three games.  D....not so much.

[HudsonHawk]

Fire his ass blah, blah, blah.  

Schaub played well enough to win the last three games.  D....not so much.

Wins in Indy and v. SD were there for the taking if Schaub steps up to the plate. He didn't.

[Astroholic]

Wins in Indy and v. SD were there for the taking if Schaub steps up to the plate. He didn't.

maybe.  but you could say the same about the d stopping those teams on key drives as well.

I am in no way defending Schaub, Kubiak, playcalling etc.

[Lefty]

Wins in Indy and v. SD were there for the taking if Schaub steps up to the plate. He didn't.

Right, if he's the miraculous fucking wonder that covers up everyone else's mistakes.

[HudsonHawk]

Right, if he's the miraculous fucking wonder that covers up everyone else's mistakes.

No, if he simply covers his own and does what good quarterbacks do.

[Astroholic]

No, if he simply covers his own and does what good quarterbacks do.

He cant make Andre catch a ball over the middle.  He can't make Jacoby....well you get the picture.

[HudsonHawk]

He cant make Andre catch a ball over the middle.  He can't make Jacoby....well you get the picture.

But he *can* not throw a pick 6 from his own 20. He *can* not fumble at the other team's 10.  He*can* throw the ball past the first down marker on 3rd and 18 with 10 seconds left in the game. He *can* not call a QB sneak on 4th and 2...well, you get tbe picture.

[Astroholic]

But he *can* not throw a pick 6 from his own 20. He *can* not fumble at the other team's 10.  He*can* throw the ball past the first down marker on 3rd and 18 with 10 seconds left in the game. He *can* not call a QB sneak on 4th and 2...well, you get tbe picture.

got it.  and I agree.  Alls Im saying is that its a team game and its the coaches job to get the players/plan together to win.  I believe that the Texans have the talent to win.

[roadrunner]

Schaub had a huge part in the wins over Washington and KC so it goes both ways.

Schaub is not the reason this team is a disappointment.

[HudsonHawk]

Schaub had a huge part in the wins over Washington and KC so it goes both ways.

Schaub is not the reason this team is a disappointment.

But with a better QB, the Texans are more like 6-3, and would likely make the playoffs. 

[HudsonHawk]

got it.  and I agree.  Alls Im saying is that its a team game and its the coaches job to get the players/plan together to win.  I believe that the Texans have the talent to win.

I agree.  You don't have to convince me that Kubiak doesn't know how to put together a game plan.  I'm just saying elite QB's overcome and lead their teams to wins. Schaub makes too many mistakes at critical times.  He's just not in the same league as Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, etc, despite throwing for a lot of yards.

[Astroholic]

I agree.  You don't have to convince me that Kubiak doesn't know how to put together a game plan.  I'm just saying elite QB's overcome and lead their teams to wins. Schaub makes too many mistakes at critical times.  He's just not in the same league as Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, etc, despite throwing for a lot of yards.

He is not elite.  But he does not have to be.  Many teams have gone to and won superbowl's with sub par qb's.

[BudGirl]

He is not elite.  But he does not have to be.  Many teams have gone to and won superbowl's with sub par qb's.

Do you have an issue with Trent Dilfer?

[roadrunner]

I agree.  You don't have to convince me that Kubiak doesn't know how to put together a game plan.  I'm just saying elite QB's overcome and lead their teams to wins. Schaub makes too many mistakes at critical times.  He's just not in the same league as Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, etc, despite throwing for a lot of yards.

Well, yeah, but did anyone really think he would be?  He has been exactly what we wanted and good enough to QB a playoff team.  You can't honestly ask too much more of him.

[Astroholic]

Do you have an issue with Trent Dilfer?

no.  I also like Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselback, Rex Grossman, etc.

[MusicMan]

no.  I also like Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselback, Rex Grossman, etc.

They all had defenses that were pretty much the matter to the Texans' D's antimatter.

[BizidyDizidy]

He is not elite.  But he does not have to be.  Many teams have gone to and won superbowl's with sub par qb's.

They have the worst defense in football. What part of the team do you envision getting them to the superbowl?

[Astroholic]

They all had defenses that were pretty much the matter to the Texans' D's antimatter.

I know they did and the Texans don't.  My point is you can't blame loosing on Matt only.  He is good enough to win.  The D and the coaching is what is lacking the most on this team.

[HudsonHawk]

He is not elite.  But he does not have to be.  Many teams have gone to and won superbowl's with sub par qb's.

Yeah, teams that have awesome defenses.  The Texans do not.  They are a team that relies on offense.

[HudsonHawk]

Well, yeah, but did anyone really think he would be?  He has been exactly what we wanted and good enough to QB a playoff team.  You can't honestly ask too much more of him.

Have you not paid attention the last 9 years?  Since when are the Texans a playoff team?  They need a QB to get them there, not simply a warm body.

[HudsonHawk]

I know they did and the Texans don't.  My point is you can't blame loosing on Matt only.  He is good enough to win.  The D and the coaching is what is lacking the most on this team.

So then your point about other mediocre QBs reaching the Super Bowl is irrelvant.  The Texans have pinned their hopes on offense.  Schaub is the guy that has to step up if that strategy is to work.  He's not shown he can.

[Astroholic]

So then your point about other mediocre QBs reaching the Super Bowl is irrelvant.  The Texans have pinned their hopes on offense.  Schaub is the guy that has to step up if that strategy is to work.  He's not shown he can.

The strategy can't work.  There is no way that everything should be pinned on the qb.  There are only a select few qb's that you could insert into this lineup that would make this team more prolific.  The D must step up and play at least respectable for this team to have any chance.  This year that is not going to happen.

[roadrunner]

So the reason the Texans aren't in the playoffs is because Schaub isn't as good as Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. 

Now that I think about it, the Astros suck because Brett Myers isn't pitching like Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay.  If he would just step it up then we would be back in the playoffs by now.

[Astroholic]

So the reason the Texans aren't in the playoffs is because Schaub isn't as good as Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. 

Now that I think about it, the Astros suck because Brett Myers isn't pitching like Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay.  If he would just step it up then we would be back in the playoffs by now.

If they had Peyton or Tom then yes I think they would make the playoffs.  Since they don't they need a respectable d.  Schaub is good enough to win.

Baseball is an apples to oranges comparison.  There are 5 starting pitchers.

[roadrunner]

If they had Peyton or Tom then yes I think they would make the playoffs.  Since they don't they need a respectable d.  Schaub is good enough to win.

Baseball is an apples to oranges comparison.  There are 5 starting pitchers.

I'm obviously not serious, just kind of silly to think about in any sport.

[Astroholic]

I'm obviously not serious, just kind of silly to think about in any sport.

Agreed it is silly. 

[HudsonHawk]

So the reason the Texans aren't in the playoffs is because Schaub isn't as good as Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. 

I'm now convinced you've never watched the Texans play.

[hostros7]

I'm now convinced you've never watched the Texans play.

Give him some credit, he watches his teams play until they lose a game, and then he stops watching.

[roadrunner]

I'm now convinced you've never watched the Texans play.

I'm taking your words and exagerrating them, so I don't see your point.

[roadrunner]

Give him some credit, he watches his teams play until they lose a game, and then he stops watching.

Strike me down for having a life outside of my favorite sports teams.

[HudsonHawk]

I'm taking your words and exagerrating them, so I don't see your point.

Of course you don't.