Author Topic: Baylor... Powerhouse (Read 13534 times)

Waldo · « **on:** October 30, 2010, 09:32:26 pm »

Just wow.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:34:57 pm »

I think y'all get this ball back. Also, I don't think that's reviewable in NFL

Waldo · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:36:57 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on October 30, 2010, 09:34:57 pm

I think y'all get this ball back. Also, I don't think that's reviewable in NFL

Will it matter?

Alkie · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:39:20 pm »

Texas....Over-rated and woefully coached.

Not that it matters.

King for life.

Waldo · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:40:20 pm »

Penalties... Powerhouse

Alkie · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:41:06 pm »

Britt Mitchell. Worst ever or just worst in college this season?

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:42:51 pm »

Man, UT's offensive line is awful. The receivers are bad but the o-line sucks.

Alkie · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:44:05 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 30, 2010, 09:42:51 pm

Man, UT's offensive line is awful. The receivers are bad but the o-line sucks.

The worst.

Alkie · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:45:50 pm »

Amazing.

We may very seriously not make a bowl game.

Waldo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:46:29 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 30, 2010, 09:42:51 pm

Man, UT's offensive line is awful. The receivers are bad but the o-line sucks.

The OL actually did a decent job of protecting Gilbert tonight (FWIW). IIRC they didn't allow a sack until the last drive and he didn't get hit too many times.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:46:37 pm »

Quote from: Alkie on October 30, 2010, 09:41:06 pm

Britt Mitchell. Worst ever or just worst in college this season?

Worst ever.

MusicMan · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:06:57 pm »

Mack Brown is a fraud.

Yes, I said it.

He can say all he want to about "accountability", but Aaron Williams (thank God he's OK) and Curtis Brown have CONSISTENTLY shown they have neither the ability nor the judgemment to field punts. And yet the caoches keep running them out of there.

I sincenerely hope we DON'T make a bowl. It's all that will lead to the necessary changes.

Alkie · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:10:57 pm »

From your ass to god's nose.

We ain't making a bowl.

We also ain't firing anyone meaningful.

Waldo · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:17:44 pm »

I don't remember seeing much of Monroe in the second half. Did I miss an injury, or is this just more coaching jackassery?

I'd like to think that after two muffed kicks and a temper tantrum on the field we've seen the last of Curtis Brown on special teams, but I'm not so sure.

MusicMan · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:22:08 pm »

Quote from: Waldo on October 30, 2010, 10:17:44 pm

I'd like to think that after two muffed kicks and a temper tantrum on the field we've seen the last of Curtis Brown on special teams, but I'm not so sure.

He's fucked up a punt in LITERALLY every single game.

What makes you think they'll change?

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:29:50 pm »

This appears to be the best Baylor team since 1980.

MusicMan · « **Reply #16 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:35:31 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 30, 2010, 10:29:50 pm

This appears to be the best Baylor team since 1980.

Don't know their history that well, but I'd believe it.

This wasn't a fluke.

Col. Sphinx Drummond · « **Reply #17 on:** October 30, 2010, 11:07:53 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 30, 2010, 10:35:31 pm

Don't know their history that well, but I'd believe it.

This wasn't a fluke.

Well they've mostly sucked. 1980 was Grant Teaff's beat team, they were 10-2 lead by Michael Singletarry on defense and Walter Abercrombie on offense. Got slaughtered by Alabama in the Cotton Bowl.

chuck · « **Reply #18 on:** October 30, 2010, 11:12:18 pm »

Not only is this year's Texas team bad, they're fucking boring.

roadrunner · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:17:53 am »

First Texas game I've missed in years and not cared.

The worst part? Not surprised by the result

hostros7 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2010, 11:08:43 am »

Quote from: roadrunner on October 31, 2010, 01:17:53 am

First Texas game I've missed in years and not cared.

The worst part? Not surprised by the result

Yeah, why would you pull for a team when they aren't on the road to a national championship? Sounds about right.

Rebel Jew · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2010, 12:26:50 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 30, 2010, 11:12:18 pm

Not only is this year's Texas team bad, they're fucking boring.

I didn't see any of the game, but did Texas at least try anything new on offense after all the criticism or was it just more of the sideways bs?

roadrunner · « **Reply #22 on:** October 31, 2010, 12:30:04 pm »

Quote from: hostros7 on October 31, 2010, 11:08:43 am

Yeah, why would you pull for a team when they aren't on the road to a national championship? Sounds about right.

Yeah that was a fair weather statement, but I think my point was that I didn't rearrange my Saturday night schedule for the game like I would have in the past and I wasn't constantly checking the score on my phone while getting drunk in a Halloween costume. I'm still going to try to watch every game, but whatever, call me a bandwagoner.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 31, 2010, 12:33:48 pm »

Quote from: roadrunner on October 31, 2010, 12:30:04 pm

Yeah that was a fair weather statement, but I think my point was that I didn't rearrange my Saturday night schedule for the game like I would have in the past and I wasn't constantly checking the score on my phone while getting drunk in a Halloween costume. I'm still going to try to watch every game, but whatever, call me a bandwagoner.

I went out of my way to watch every Stanford game I could in a 1-11 season. Yes, you are a bandwagoner.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #24 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:09:45 pm »

Quote from: Joey Trum on October 31, 2010, 12:26:50 pm

I didn't see any of the game, but did Texas at least try anything new on offense after all the criticism or was it just more of the sideways bs?

They did go downfield more and had some success running the ball, but there were a lot of drops and more of the same strange personnel choices. GG ran a little more, both out of the pocket and on bootlegs. Nothing to get excited about, but it was less of the horizontal game although the bubble screen and out route were still used with the same ho-hum results.

MusicMan · « **Reply #25 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:14:07 pm »

Quote from: Joey Trum on October 31, 2010, 12:26:50 pm

I didn't see any of the game, but did Texas at least try anything new on offense after all the criticism or was it just more of the sideways bs?

GG ran more. Otherwise, same old shit. I kid you not, GD ran Cody Johnson twice from the ten.

Out of the shotgun.

Down by two scores with 4 minutes left.

It was more comical than irritating at this point.

chuck · « **Reply #26 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:27:53 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 31, 2010, 01:14:07 pm

GG ran more. Otherwise, same old shit. I kid you not, GD ran Cody Johnson twice from the ten.

Out of the shotgun.

Down by two scores with 4 minutes left.

It was more comical than irritating at this point.

That's the sequence that should finally get this incompetent halfwit run out of town.

Lurch · « **Reply #27 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:41:38 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 31, 2010, 01:14:07 pm

I kid you not, GD ran Cody Johnson twice from the ten.

How fucked up was that?!

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #28 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:12:49 pm »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 30, 2010, 11:07:53 pm

Well they've mostly sucked. 1980 was Grant Teaff's beat team, they were 10-2 lead by Michael Singletarry on defense and Walter Abercrombie on offense. Got slaughtered by Alabama in the Cotton Bowl.

Was there for that ass kicking... '87 started off promising - until 2 second left to go in the first half of the first game that is...

Alkie · « **Reply #29 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:37:32 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 31, 2010, 01:27:53 pm

That's the sequence that should finally get this incompetent halfwit run out of town.

Yeah, well, since that has been uttered after every single game for the last 9+ years, I doubt this time will be any different.

Did a quick glance of the Statesman this morning and saw nothing about anyone being called out.

King for life.

chuck · « **Reply #30 on:** October 31, 2010, 03:28:18 pm »

Quote from: Alkie on October 31, 2010, 02:37:32 pm

Yeah, well, since that has been uttered after every single game for the last 9+ years, I doubt this time will be any different.

Did a quick glance of the Statesman this morning and saw nothing about anyone being called out.

King for life.

Yeah, I looked at the Statesman too and found nothing of interest.

I'd think that some of the more influential donors would get tired of seeing this nonsense from their new luxury suites.

Russe · « **Reply #31 on:** October 31, 2010, 04:06:27 pm »

Quote from: Alkie on October 30, 2010, 09:44:05 pm

The worst.

Next time you get a chance, check out a PSU game. I promise you you'll feel much better about UT's o-line.

Bench · « **Reply #32 on:** October 31, 2010, 09:02:37 pm »

Quote from: roadrunner on October 31, 2010, 12:30:04 pm

Yeah that was a fair weather statement, but I think my point was that I didn't rearrange my Saturday night schedule for the game like I would have in the past and I wasn't constantly checking the score on my phone while getting drunk in a Halloween costume. I'm still going to try to watch every game, but whatever, call me a bandwagoner.

Depends on the costume.

Lefty · « **Reply #33 on:** October 31, 2010, 11:39:26 pm »

Quote from: chuck on October 31, 2010, 03:28:18 pm

Yeah, I looked at the Statesman too and found nothing of interest.

I'd think that some of the more influential donors would get tired of seeing this nonsense from their new luxury suites.

At least one of them is.

And yeah, I thought it was strange there weren't really any postgame quotes from Mack or the coaches in the sunday paper.

Waldo · « **Reply #34 on:** November 01, 2010, 12:11:41 am »

Barking Carnival is saying that Dick Tomey was on the Texas sidelines last night and, according to "sources" (FWIW), has been hired as an outside consultant.

EDIT - Chron says it's not true.

AstroFrog · « **Reply #35 on:** November 01, 2010, 07:17:52 am »

Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on October 30, 2010, 10:29:50 pm

This appears to be the best Baylor team since 1980.

Makes 45-10 at the hands of TCU look all the better.

Thanks for the wins, Bears!

Alkie · « **Reply #36 on:** November 01, 2010, 09:00:41 am »

Quote from: AstroFrog on November 01, 2010, 07:17:52 am

Makes 45-10 at the hands of TCU look all the better.

Thanks for the wins, Bears!

A win over Texas this year ain't helping ANYONE's RPI.

JimR · « **Reply #37 on:** November 01, 2010, 09:11:42 am »

Quote from: hostros7 on October 31, 2010, 11:08:43 am

Yeah, why would you pull for a team when they aren't on the road to a national championship? Sounds about right.

he is frontrunner, not roadrunner, and he is consistent.

Taras Bulba · « **Reply #38 on:** November 01, 2010, 09:51:57 am »

I was at the game and did not see the telecast or replays of the botched punt reception by Texas at their goal line in the second quarter that was reviewed and interestingly reversed as a touchback. I was sitting on the first row at about the 18 yard line and pretty close to where it occured and it seemed that of all the conclusions the refs/review officials could have made, a touchback was really a reach. I have spoken to a few people who watched the telecast and they are also at a loss. In a different game, that could have been a huge call reversal.

I guess Greg Davis is bad and needs to be fired and all that, but he didn't have about 40 passes bounce off his chest or off his hands on Saturday night. Those Shipley and Cosby guys were pretty damn good, weren't they?

Monroe for Texas didn't do shit when he got the ball. Maybe that's why he doesn't play much.

I can't recall a more glorious October in terms of weather. What a great time of year.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #39 on:** November 01, 2010, 09:56:36 am »

Touchback was pretty clearly the right call imo, although the announcer didn't seem to understand.

MusicMan · « **Reply #40 on:** November 01, 2010, 09:56:48 am »

Quote from: Taras Bulba on November 01, 2010, 09:51:57 am

I was at the game and did not see the telecast or replays of the botched punt reception by Texas at their goal line in the second quarter that was reviewed and interestingly reversed as a touchback. I was sitting on the first row at about the 18 yard line and pretty close to where it occured and it seemed that of all the conclusions the refs/review officials could have made, a touchback was really a reach. I have spoken to a few people who watched the telecast and they are also at a loss. In a different game, that could have been a huge call reversal.

I was in shock at that call. The replay of the last fumbled punt they got right; Hicks had posession and was down (and how sad is it that a true frosh LB is the only guy that can hold onto the damn ball?)

But that first one? I thought for sure that all they could judge was whether Brown ever had possession, which would be the difference between Baylor ball on the one, and Baylor touchdown (as a muff cannot be advanced by the kicking team).

jbm · « **Reply #41 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:22:17 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on November 01, 2010, 09:56:36 am

Touchback was pretty clearly the right call imo, although the announcer didn't seem to understand.

yeah,

It probably looked like Baylor got screwed, and that dipshit announcer didn't help, but seemed like the right call. Either a touchback or Texas' ball on the one inch line.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #42 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:24:04 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2010, 09:56:48 am

I was in shock at that call. The replay of the last fumbled punt they got right; Hicks had posession and was down (and how sad is it that a true frosh LB is the only guy that can hold onto the damn ball?)

But that first one? I thought for sure that all they could judge was whether Brown ever had possession, which would be the difference between Baylor ball on the one, and Baylor touchdown (as a muff cannot be advanced by the kicking team).

He gained possession for the first time in the end zone, and then was downed.

MusicMan · « **Reply #43 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:24:46 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on November 01, 2010, 10:24:04 am

He gained possession for the first time in the end zone, and then was downed.

Never looked to me that he had possession.

sporadic · « **Reply #44 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:26:03 am »

Touchback was absolutely the correct call. In college, if you muff a punt and recover it in the endzone, it is a touchback. The punt was muffed, he re-gained control in the EZ, fell down while not out of the EZ, ground caused a fumble that a BU player recovered (the BU player could have advanced the fumble had the Texas player not been down, as the fumble occurred after the muffed punt was controlled, therefore not a return of a muffed punt but a return of a fumble).

JimR · « **Reply #45 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:33:15 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on November 01, 2010, 10:24:04 am

He gained possession for the first time in the end zone, and then was downed.

that would be a touchback because he did not have possession on the field of play.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #46 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:56:51 am »

Quote from: JimR on November 01, 2010, 10:33:15 am

that would be a touchback because he did not have possession on the field of play.

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on November 01, 2010, 09:56:36 am

Touchback was pretty clearly the right call imo, although the announcer didn't seem to understand.

JimR · « **Reply #47 on:** November 01, 2010, 10:58:36 am »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on November 01, 2010, 10:56:51 am

yep, i was agreeing.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #48 on:** November 01, 2010, 11:01:41 am »

Quote from: JimR on November 01, 2010, 10:58:36 am

yep, i was agreeing.

My 80 year old grandmother knew the right call immediately, but in the announcer's defense she probably has watched a lot more football.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #49 on:** November 01, 2010, 12:14:22 pm »

Quote from: BizidyDizidy on November 01, 2010, 11:01:41 am

My 80 year old grandmother knew the right call immediately, but in the announcer's defense she probably has watched a lot more football.

It's pretty standard that announcers don't the difference between a "muff" and a "fumble".

Taras Bulba · « **Reply #50 on:** November 01, 2010, 01:58:31 pm »

I never saw anything that I thought even remotely resembled "possession" but didn't see the replay, either.

One other curious thing, when Williams and Gideon collided and Williams was out, the crowd went stone cold silent--Williams wasn't moving and people feared he was paralyzed. All but Coach Akina who was unaware or whatever and was barking out instructions to his punt return unit ("return left" was his call), so that you could hear every word he was saying to them. It got a little uncomfortable with Williams down about ten yards behind him. An ex-UT player sitting next to me even yelled out to him to shut up.

sporadic · « **Reply #51 on:** November 01, 2010, 02:13:36 pm »

Quote from: Taras Bulba on November 01, 2010, 01:58:31 pm

I never saw anything that I thought even remotely resembled "possession" but didn't see the replay, either.

One other curious thing, when Williams and Gideon collided and Williams was out, the crowd went stone cold silent--Williams wasn't moving and people feared he was paralyzed. All but Coach Akina who was unaware or whatever and was barking out instructions to his punt return unit ("return left" was his call), so that you could hear every word he was saying to them. It got a little uncomfortable with Williams down about ten yards behind him. An ex-UT player sitting next to me even yelled out to him to shut up.

Looked that way live, replay showed he took a couple of steps in the EZ with complete possession. One of the other coaches should have gone over and told Akina to cool it

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #52 on:** November 01, 2010, 03:45:48 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on October 30, 2010, 10:06:57 pm

Mack Brown is a fraud.

I had the privilege of knowing Brown when he was an offensive coach at LSU when I was there. He is full of shit. Frankly, I'm surprised that he's gotten as far as he's gotten. I knew many other coaches who should have been great head coaches but never were. He's a lucky bastard too.

jbm · « **Reply #53 on:** November 01, 2010, 04:08:14 pm »

He may be a fraud with his acountability talk. He may be full of shit. He may also be lucky.

Like him or not however, give the guy his due. He has accomplished quite a lot.

MusicMan · « **Reply #54 on:** November 01, 2010, 04:20:29 pm »

Quote from: jbm on November 01, 2010, 04:08:14 pm

He may be a fraud with his acountability talk. He may be full of shit. He may also be lucky.

Like him or not however, give the guy his due. He has accomplished quite a lot.

I give MB a great deal of credit. I'm not calling for his head. I just want him to back up his words with actions.

jbm · « **Reply #55 on:** November 01, 2010, 04:23:54 pm »

I totally agree. Talk talk talk. Little action.

Alkie · « **Reply #56 on:** November 01, 2010, 05:15:48 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2010, 04:20:29 pm

I give MB a great deal of credit. I'm not calling for his head. I just want him to back up his words with actions.

I'd be a lot more excited about MB finally breaking up with GD than with DD firing MB. GL HF BY FU.

MusicMan · « **Reply #57 on:** November 01, 2010, 05:21:11 pm »

Quote from: Alkie on November 01, 2010, 05:15:48 pm

I'd be a lot more excited about MB finally breaking up with GD than with DD firing MB.

And you'd be excited about a BJ from EA, but we're all SOL.

JimR · « **Reply #58 on:** November 02, 2010, 10:57:08 am »

Quote from: jbm on November 01, 2010, 04:08:14 pm

He may be a fraud with his acountability talk. He may be full of shit. He may also be lucky.

Like him or not however, give the guy his due. He has accomplished quite a lot.

he has won two conference championships and one national championship, which is good. he is a very nice and good man. he has brought in a gazillion dollars to the Ath Dept by winning games, but Dodds is the atchitect of that. Mack Brown has not done nearly as much on the field as he is given credit for, and i cannot stand to hear the man talk. his words are meaningless.

JimR · « **Reply #59 on:** November 02, 2010, 10:57:53 am »

Quote from: Alkie on November 01, 2010, 05:15:48 pm

I'd be a lot more excited about MB finally breaking up with GD than with DD firing MB. GL HF BY FU.

Greg Davis does not do one thing that Mack Brown does not want him to do.

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #60 on:** November 02, 2010, 12:25:23 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on November 01, 2010, 05:21:11 pm

And you'd be excited about a BJ from EA, but we're all SOL.

Maybe; it depends on if she knows the correct MO.

Ty in Tampa · « **Reply #61 on:** November 02, 2010, 12:30:41 pm »

Quote from: outlawscotty on November 02, 2010, 12:25:23 pm

Maybe; it depends on if she knows the correct MO.

IE: HTWAC

Outlawscotty · « **Reply #62 on:** November 02, 2010, 01:34:29 pm »

Quote from: Ty in Tampa on November 02, 2010, 12:30:41 pm

IE: HTWAC

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Alkie · « **Reply #63 on:** November 02, 2010, 08:10:51 pm »

Quote from: JimR on November 02, 2010, 10:57:53 am

Greg Davis does not do one thing that Mack Brown does not want him to do.

I don't dispute that at all.

But if you're going to pretend-call-out the assistants and then have the next game be worse than the last one, you can't just pretend you didn't pretend call out people.

JimR · « **Reply #64 on:** November 03, 2010, 10:22:17 am »

Quote from: Alkie on November 02, 2010, 08:10:51 pm

I don't dispute that at all.

But if you're going to pretend-call-out the assistants and then have the next game be worse than the last one, you can't just pretend you didn't pretend call out people.

the offense was far, far better against BU. 5-6 drops, but they threw the ball down the field.

MusicMan · « **Reply #65 on:** November 03, 2010, 10:36:43 am »

Quote from: JimR on November 03, 2010, 10:22:17 am

the offense was far, far better against BU. 5-6 drops, but they threw the ball down the field.

Far better between the 20's.

JimR · « **Reply #66 on:** November 03, 2010, 10:49:37 am »

Quote from: MusicMan on November 03, 2010, 10:36:43 am

Far better between the 20's.

one drop was in the end zone from inside the 10.

Duke · « **Reply #67 on:** November 03, 2010, 12:44:13 pm »

Quote from: JimR on November 03, 2010, 10:49:37 am

one drop was in the end zone from inside the 10.

Was that the one to Greg Smith? I've been hoping all year to get the TE more involved. Now I kind of see why they haven't.

Bench · « **Reply #68 on:** November 03, 2010, 12:54:10 pm »

I Am Greg Davis

MusicMan · « **Reply #69 on:** November 03, 2010, 01:06:16 pm »

Quote from: Duke on November 03, 2010, 12:44:13 pm

I've been hoping all year to get the TE more involved.

Why? They don't have a legit TE or H-Back on the roster with Irby's injury.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #70 on:** November 03, 2010, 01:21:24 pm »

Quote from: Bench on November 03, 2010, 12:54:10 pm

I Am Greg Davis

Jim's right. Greg Davis knows who calls the shots, and it isn't him.

Duke · « **Reply #71 on:** November 03, 2010, 02:34:44 pm »

Quote from: MusicMan on November 03, 2010, 01:06:16 pm

Why? They don't have a legit TE or H-Back on the roster with Irby's injury.

One reason is to put a body next to Britt Mitchel to help slow down the right DE. Second to take some shots over the middle with a TE off of a play action fake. Anything to get the ball downfield. Clearly you're right because they havn't done it.

JimR · « **Reply #72 on:** November 03, 2010, 02:52:55 pm »

Quote from: Duke on November 03, 2010, 12:44:13 pm

Was that the one to Greg Smith? I've been hoping all year to get the TE more involved. Now I kind of see why they haven't.

Mathews

Alkie · « **Reply #73 on:** November 03, 2010, 06:00:32 pm »

Quote from: JimR on November 03, 2010, 10:22:17 am

the offense was far, far better against BU. 5-6 drops, but they threw the ball down the field.

Yeah, I didn't get the game, so I just went off the score and other's remarks on this one. First Horns game that wasn't televised here since we moved here.