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« on: October 09, 2010, 09:43:35 pm »
I just turned on the UH game and they're getting pounded by an awful Miss St team at home.

What the fuck?

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 10:51:48 pm »
What a game - I'm not in good enough shape for these.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 10:52:50 pm »
I vote we do texans here as well - good enough chance WTF is appropriate.

I personally am rooting for cushing to decapitate eli.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 10:36:42 am »
I vote we do texans here as well - good enough chance WTF is appropriate.

I personally am rooting for cushing to decapitate eli.

I think the Texans beat the Giants fairly handily.  Our defense actually matches up well with them, which is a first-- run defense and deep ball defense are our 'strengths.'   And despite all the sacks last week, the aggressive Giant d-line is going to have trouble with the zone blocking and play action that we do.  All that plus Cushing's return and playing at home and I'm going:  27-10

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 11:08:26 am »
The more the Texans keep Eli on his back the happier I will be.  I hate that prima dona.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 12:04:01 pm »
Why do we keep hopinmg slaton will figure out how to return a kick
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 12:32:49 pm »
What the fuck was Schaub thinking?

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 12:36:45 pm »
Kareem Jackson may turn in to a fine NFL player one day, today, he is close to fucking terrible.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 12:39:36 pm »
This has the potential to get ugly
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2010, 12:40:58 pm »
Get? The Texans look like ass so far.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 12:43:44 pm »
To the OP, Miss St is far from awful and UH lost one the the best players to ever set foot on their campus and are in the midst of juggling their 3rd and 4th string true freshman QBs. Not unexpected at all.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 12:48:59 pm »
This seems like a combination of suckery with coaching at the forefront.  Giants D looks like they developed a plan for the Texans and are executing it very well.  Texans look helpless, which I can only attribute to a bad scheme and situational play calling given how the team has looked every other week. 

We know the secondary blows. 

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 12:54:47 pm »
To the OP, Miss St is far from awful and UH lost one the the best players to ever set foot on their campus and are in the midst of juggling their 3rd and 4th string true freshman QBs. Not unexpected at all.

Actually Piland looked pretty good.  Recievers dropping balls all over the place.  Turning point of game was the fumbled punt in first quarter.  Lack of talent on defense, especially at SS.  I dont think having Case would have mattered in this one, but you never know.


Texans look horrible.

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 01:00:50 pm »
Actually Piland looked pretty good.  Recievers dropping balls all over the place.  Turning point of game was the fumbled punt in first quarter.  Lack of talent on defense, especially at SS.  I dont think having Case would have mattered in this one, but you never know.


Texans look horrible.

Case running the offense would have made a big difference in this or any game, but just as importantly I think there are players that have quit since the Case injury. I agree on Piland.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 01:39:02 pm »
Texans look horrible.

Horrible would actually be a significant improvement.
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010, 01:40:12 pm »
They dropped more balls than they caught.  The MSU quarterback that started the game could run but couldn't pass worth a crap.  But why pass when you can run all night long.

I said after the UCLA game it will be a test to see how good a coach Sumlin is now.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2010, 01:40:34 pm »
Candy asses play better than the Texans right now.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2010, 01:40:56 pm »
Texans look helpless, which I can only attribute to a bad scheme and situational play calling given how the team has looked every other week. 

Kubiak didn't find out until this morning they had a game today.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2010, 01:57:41 pm »
Quick, name one phase of the game that the Texans have looked halfway decent at today.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2010, 01:58:39 pm »
Quick, name one phase of the game that the Texans have looked halfway decent at today.

Catering?

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2010, 02:00:02 pm »
Catering?

Unbalanced selection of cheese and crackers.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2010, 02:04:38 pm »
On the bright side, if this game gets any more out of hand, we might get treated to another 10 minute tirade against offsetting penalties.  Seriously, what the fuck was that?
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2010, 02:05:53 pm »
The thing is, there's plenty of time to come back; especially against the Giants (who could fuck up anything).

The problem is...you really don't get the feeling Kubiak has that in mind.

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2010, 02:11:23 pm »
There we go.

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2010, 02:11:56 pm »
Wow, did Kubiak realize that it helps to apply pressure on the qb when the team's secondary is the worst in the league?  I'm betting that was just an accident.

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2010, 02:18:54 pm »
Kubiak didn't find out until this morning they had a game today.

I am convinced he doesn't watch any game tape.  All this the Texans are a great 2nd half team bullshit - because they're woefully unprepared for the first half. 

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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2010, 02:45:38 pm »
A couple of ticky-tack block in the back penalties.
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2010, 02:53:32 pm »
A couple of ticky-tack block in the back penalties.


Yeah...that's been the problem today.
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2010, 02:55:47 pm »

Yeah...that's been the problem today.

The Texans have been beaten soundly in every aspect of the game.  But the officials are throwing waaaay too many fucking flags.
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2010, 03:06:32 pm »
I'm done apologizing for Kubiak.  This was a complete lay down.
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2010, 03:06:41 pm »
The Texans have been beaten soundly in every aspect of the game.  But the officials are throwing waaaay too many fucking flags.

Because the Texans are committing way too many fucking penalties.
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2010, 03:12:38 pm »
I'm done apologizing for Kubiak.  This was a complete lay down.

Completely agree.
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2010, 04:22:12 pm »
I'm done apologizing for Kubiak.  This was a complete lay down.

This.

I've wanted to pull for the guy for a variety of reasons.  If they don't make the playoffs this year, I'll pack his bags for him and buy him a bus ticket to DC.

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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2010, 05:06:17 pm »
I think the Texans beat the Giants fairly handily.  Our defense actually matches up well with them, which is a first-- run defense and deep ball defense are our 'strengths.'   And despite all the sacks last week, the aggressive Giant d-line is going to have trouble with the zone blocking and play action that we do.  All that plus Cushing's return and playing at home and I'm going:  27-10

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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2010, 05:14:18 pm »
Kareem Jackson is terrible.

I'm not throwing Kubiak off a cliff yet.  I wanted to go 2-2 in this 4 game stretch, so it will take 2-1 against KC, Indy, and SD.  Not easy, but attainable.  The Texans weren't going to win 15 games this year.

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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2010, 05:30:08 pm »
Kareem Jackson is terrible.

I'm not throwing Kubiak off a cliff yet.  I wanted to go 2-2 in this 4 game stretch, so it will take 2-1 against KC, Indy, and SD.  Not easy, but attainable.  The Texans weren't going to win 15 games this year.

watched or am watching all 3 of those teams today.  all terrible.  so are the texans, but it's not that much tougher than any other stretch.

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« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2010, 06:30:08 pm »
watched or am watching all 3 of those teams today.  all terrible.  so are the texans, but it's not that much tougher than any other stretch.

Yeah.  The Saints got beat by Arizona today.  Green Bay got beat, too.  Anyone can beat anyone...except for Carolina apparently. 

I will judge Kubiack more on how the team responds next week anyways.

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« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2010, 09:04:43 pm »
I will judge Kubiack more on how the team responds next week anyways.

How many more years of "I'll see how he responds next week" is it going to take?  Five years of it isn't enough?
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« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2010, 09:47:06 pm »
How many more years of "I'll see how he responds next week" is it going to take?  Five years of it isn't enough?

Well I'm definitely not going to throw his job out the window after going 3-2 in the first 5 games of the season.

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« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2010, 10:02:06 pm »
Could be worse - we could have singletary
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2010, 10:54:08 pm »
Could be worse - we could have singletary

i really thought the niners were going to pull that one out.  franchise is a total clusterfuck right now.  raiders will get back to the playoffs before they do.

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« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2010, 06:18:04 am »
Well I'm definitely not going to throw his job out the window after going 3-2 in the first 5 games of the season.

But how many more "let's see how he responds" is it going to take?  You act as if this is his first five games.  It's not.  He's had five seasons of suberb talent, and driven it right into the ground.  If you still think that Gary Kubiak can be a competent NFL head coach, we're not even discussing this on the same level.
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« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2010, 06:18:33 am »
Could be worse - we could have singletary

No, that wouldn't be worse.  Not by a long shot.
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« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2010, 11:10:10 am »
But how many more "let's see how he responds" is it going to take?  You act as if this is his first five games.  It's not.  He's had five seasons of suberb talent, and driven it right into the ground.  If you still think that Gary Kubiak can be a competent NFL head coach, we're not even discussing this on the same level.

the thing that scares me most about kubiak is how system-reliant he and in turn the texans are.  this is what comes with the denver style so it's what you get i guess, but the scary thing about yesterday was how on top of our shit the giants were.  if the other team has properly coached their d-linemen to stay disciplined and essentially act as extra linebackers on running downs then we're fucked.  and when the running game doesn't work, the defense won't be confused by the play-action and misdirection passing, which leads to tipped balls, near-interceptions, and designed passes to vonta leach.  i couldn't believe my ears yesterday, but moose johnston actually made a good point when he suggested that the texans put in derrick ward and go with whatever man-blocking plays they have.  this or just saying fuck it and going 3 wide, no huddle would have suited me fine.  but instead they kept going with the finesse bs like it's the only thing they know how to do, and maybe it is.  sadly, this reminds me of the later days of the run n' shoot era when defenses started to figure out that you could beat the system by giving up short routes and then roughing up our short receivers.

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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2010, 11:17:26 am »
the thing that scares me most about kubiak is how system-reliant he and in turn the texans are.  this is what comes with the denver style so it's what you get i guess, but the scary thing about yesterday was how on top of our shit the giants were.  if the other team has properly coached their d-linemen to stay disciplined and essentially act as extra linebackers on running downs then we're fucked.  and when the running game doesn't work, the defense won't be confused by the play-action and misdirection passing, which leads to tipped balls, near-interceptions, and designed passes to vonta leach.  i couldn't believe my ears yesterday, but moose johnston actually made a good point when he suggested that the texans put in derrick ward and go with whatever man-blocking plays they have.  this or just saying fuck it and going 3 wide, no huddle would have suited me fine.  but instead they kept going with the finesse bs like it's the only thing they know how to do, and maybe it is.  sadly, this reminds me of the later days of the run n' shoot era when defenses started to figure out that you could beat the system by giving up short routes and then roughing up our short receivers.

I am not sure if you were doing this or not, but compairing this offense to the Run n Shoot, is doing the RnS a huge disfavor.

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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2010, 11:18:46 am »
I'm still waiting for Kubiak to explain declining the holding penalty... because obviously 3rd and 23 from the 30 is a worse situation than 4th and 4 from the 11 when you're down 3 scores.  He might as well have grabbed the PA microphone and announced that his defense cannot stop anybody.
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« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2010, 12:06:34 pm »
I'm still waiting for Kubiak to explain declining the holding penalty... because obviously 3rd and 23 from the 30 is a worse situation than 4th and 4 from the 11 when you're down 3 scores.  He might as well have grabbed the PA microphone and announced that his defense cannot stop anybody.

I defended his decision to kick a field goal in Washington game.  I am done trying to understand what the man is thinking.  Conservative football is boring!

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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2010, 12:16:30 pm »
Conservative football is boring!

Not if you have the defensive talent to post W's doing so - Parcells made a living taking the air out of the ball and forcing the other team to do dumb shit.  The Texans need to look at the Saints from last year...they gave up yards and some big plays, but they were incredibly opportunistic and forced turnovers.  IMO, as a defense you have to limit scoring (read: force FG's) or create turnovers...the Texans seem to do neither.  You cannot be conservative if you do not have the scheme or personnel to make it work.

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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2010, 12:18:05 pm »
I'm still waiting for Kubiak to explain declining the holding penalty... because obviously 3rd and 23 from the 30 is a worse situation than 4th and 4 from the 11 when you're down 3 scores.  He might as well have grabbed the PA microphone and announced that his defense cannot stop anybody.

That was actually defensible.  They were running out of time, about 7 minutes or so left, and they were likely going to give up points on that drive, no matter what.  Declining the penalty forced 4th down, and should have given them the ball back sooner.  All of that is, of course, predicated on Bernard Pollard not stepping on his dick.
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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2010, 12:33:03 pm »
Not if you have the defensive talent to post W's doing so - Parcells made a living taking the air out of the ball and forcing the other team to do dumb shit.  The Texans need to look at the Saints from last year...they gave up yards and some big plays, but they were incredibly opportunistic and forced turnovers.  IMO, as a defense you have to limit scoring (read: force FG's) or create turnovers...the Texans seem to do neither.  You cannot be conservative if you do not have the scheme or personnel to make it work.

Let me explain what I mean about conservative.  I am talking about overall philosophy.  If the secondary is going to give up some points anyways, why not send several blitz packages.  One way to offset poor secondary play is with pressure..not dropping Mario back into coverage.  How about taking Pollard out on obvious passing downs, or moving him up to play the third linebacker (replacing Diles) and bringing Nolan (Safety/dime corner, etc.) in?  Send him on a blitz.  Pollard could not cover me and I am old/out of shape.  Why is Ryans on the sideline?  I just don't get it.

And as for Schaub, throw the ball over the fucking d lineman please.  This was the worst game I have seen him have as a Texan.

I am done now..I think.

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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2010, 12:38:18 pm »
That was actually defensible.  They were running out of time, about 7 minutes or so left, and they were likely going to give up points on that drive, no matter what.  Declining the penalty forced 4th down, and should have given them the ball back sooner.  All of that is, of course, predicated on Bernard Pollard not stepping on his dick.

48 yard FG vs. 28 yard FG is a very different probability of outcome.
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2010, 12:56:43 pm »
48 yard FG vs. 28 yard FG is a very different probability of outcome.

I doubt they would have kicked on 3rd down.
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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2010, 12:59:18 pm »
I doubt they would have kicked on 3rd down.

Which is exactly why I say that Kubiak doesn't trust the defense to stop anyone.
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« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2010, 01:03:56 pm »
Which is exactly why I say that Kubiak doesn't trust the defense to stop anyone.

If you mean "stop" as in "don't give up an inch on 3rd and 23", then I doubt any coach trusts his defense.
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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2010, 01:06:12 pm »
If you mean "stop" as in "don't give up an inch on 3rd and 23", then I doubt any coach trusts his defense.

An incomplete pass is out of the question?  Really??
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« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2010, 01:13:55 pm »
An incomplete pass is out of the question?  Really??

Your play calling on 3rd and 23 at the opponent's 30 is different than it would be 4th and inches.  Consequently, your defending it on the other side is as well.  Given the situation, a running play is most likely.  A short, high percentage pass is possible.  It's unrealistic to expect to not give up 5-10 yards on defense in that situation.  So given the choice of a 28 yard field goal attempt or 40 yard field goal attempt after burning another minute and half of time late in the 4Q when you're down by several scores, it's not irrational to opt for the former.
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« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2010, 02:31:07 pm »
Not if you have the defensive talent to post W's doing so - Parcells made a living taking the air out of the ball and forcing the other team to do dumb shit.  The Texans need to look at the Saints from last year...they gave up yards and some big plays, but they were incredibly opportunistic and forced turnovers.  IMO, as a defense you have to limit scoring (read: force FG's) or create turnovers...the Texans seem to do neither.  You cannot be conservative if you do not have the scheme or personnel to make it work.

aggressive with a bad defense would be a far greater disaster than conservative with a bad defense.  play conservative, force the offense into longer drives and you have more opportunities to force a punt or field goal, or even that one of the playmakers you do have (mario, pollard, cushing) will make a play.  being that the texans, at least until recently, have tons of confidence in their offense, this is not a terrible strategy.  blitz too much or coach your secondary to try to jump routes and you run the risk of getting blown out college style.  saints had the right personnel for this style, and had far more talent on defense than houston does.

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« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2010, 02:39:38 pm »
aggressive with a bad defense would be a far greater disaster than conservative with a bad defense.  play conservative, force the offense into longer drives and you have more opportunities to force a punt or field goal, or even that one of the playmakers you do have (mario, pollard, cushing) will make a play.  being that the texans, at least until recently, have tons of confidence in their offense, this is not a terrible strategy.  blitz too much or coach your secondary to try to jump routes and you run the risk of getting blown out college style.  saints had the right personnel for this style, and had far more talent on defense than houston does.
I totally disagree with this.  getting beat by 24 points is a blow out.  If you put pressure on qb and force some errors..well then giving up a few long balls doesnt kill you.  Sitting back in zone with a rookie corner, 2nd year corner, slow SS, is a recipe for disaster.

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« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2010, 03:08:30 pm »
I totally disagree with this.  getting beat by 24 points is a blow out.  If you put pressure on qb and force some errors..well then giving up a few long balls doesnt kill you.  Sitting back in zone with a rookie corner, 2nd year corner, slow SS, is a recipe for disaster.

And it doesn't matter if you get blown out by 40 points or lose by a field goal.  It's the NFL...a loss is a loss.
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« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2010, 03:23:55 pm »
I totally disagree with this.  getting beat by 24 points is a blow out.  If you put pressure on qb and force some errors..well then giving up a few long balls doesnt kill you.  Sitting back in zone with a rookie corner, 2nd year corner, slow SS, is a recipe for disaster.

they would have gotten beat by 48 points if they blitzed too much and/or told the db's to try to jump coverage, and would not have beaten the skins or colts.  how many times have you seen the texans try to blitz, only to get bunched up at the line and the qb easily finds his read going down the field?  texans tried bump and run earlier this year and were even worse at it than base coverage.  I don't know the solution, but Bush's hands are pretty tied with the personnel we have.
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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2010, 03:28:07 pm »
10 points on offense is just as big a problem if not bigger.

The biggest problem for Kubiak is that McNair is realizing people would rather tailgate than actually come inside to watch this team.
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« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2010, 03:53:28 pm »
The biggest problem for Kubiak is that McNair is realizing people would rather tailgate than actually come inside to watch this team.

At an extra $10/person.

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« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2010, 04:34:53 pm »
At an extra $10/person.

On a side note...as a season ticket holder and dedicated tailgater...I can't tell you how happy I am about the new tailgating/ticket policy.  It was getting out of control. 

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« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2010, 04:44:03 pm »
they would have gotten beat by 48 points if they blitzed too much and/or told the db's to try to jump coverage, and would not have beaten the skins or colts.  how many times have you seen the texans try to blitz, only to get bunched up at the line and the qb easily finds his read going down the field?  texans tried bump and run earlier this year and were even worse at it than base coverage.  I don't know the solution, but Bush's hands are pretty tied with the personnel we have.

1st half of colts game this year.  Blitz was on.  Also happened to be one of the best halves of football this year.

You would rather they play a soft zone and drop Mario Williams..yes Mario Fucking Williams into coverage and lose by 24 than disrupt what the qb is doing, instead letting him bake a freaking cake in the pocket and picking apart the soft zone.....well then I guess Kubiak is the coach for you.
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« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2010, 04:53:09 pm »
At an extra $10/person.

On a side note...as a season ticket holder and dedicated tailgater...I can't tell you how happy I am about the new tailgating/ticket policy.  It was getting out of control. 

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« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2010, 05:26:50 pm »
Did you stay for the whole ClusterFuck?

I always do.  In 9 seasons now, I've never left my seat before the clock shows 0:00.
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« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2010, 05:30:34 pm »
1st half of colts game this year.  Blitz was on.  Also happened to be one of the best halves of football this year.

You would rather they play a soft zone and drop Mario Williams..yes Mario Fucking Williams into coverage and lose by 24 than disrupt what the qb is doing, instead letting him bake a freaking cake in the pocket and picking apart the soft zone.....well then I guess Kubiak is the coach for you.


i'm not advocating having your best pass rusher drop into coverage (though this tactic did result in a sack against the raiders off a zone blitz).  but to say that the texans should adopt an all-out attacking style like the saints last year is missing a lot of points about this team.  they already are extremely weak over the short middle and on the seams.  blitz too much, and you're just taking one more player out of those zones and making it even easier for the offense than it already is.

texans definitely did not blitz the colts much in that game (certainly never sending more than 5), unless you count d-line stunts as blitzes, and they definitely definitely did not coach their db's to jump routes looking for turnovers.  manning would have put up 60000 points if we'd done that.  they beat manning by completely shutting down the run and forcing the colts into long drives and lots of third downs.

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« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2010, 05:36:53 pm »
Here's a quote from Eli in the AP recap:

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“It’s fun when those things work,” Manning said. “It’s not really always what the coach had drawn up and what the coach wants, but you kind of do some things on your own.”

Just imagine how foolish this bunch would look if they were attacking every play, if the db's were coached to jump routes.  I mean, if that's how a CONSERVATIVE defense looks, they'd be literally tripping over each other's feet if they tried to act like the Saints last year.

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« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2010, 06:31:17 pm »
Here's a quote from Eli in the AP recap:

Just imagine how foolish this bunch would look if they were attacking every play, if the db's were coached to jump routes.  I mean, if that's how a CONSERVATIVE defense looks, they'd be literally tripping over each other's feet if they tried to act like the Saints last year.

we just will have to disagree on this.  I think they have the talent to play man (not jump routes) and blitz at least 1 backer on each pass play.  Hell might as well send Pollard because he sure as hell can't cover anyone.

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« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2010, 07:47:15 pm »
we just will have to disagree on this.  I think they have the talent to play man (not jump routes) and blitz at least 1 backer on each pass play.  Hell might as well send Pollard because he sure as hell can't cover anyone.

hopefully some day we'll be able to disagree about why the texans are so badass

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« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2010, 06:23:12 am »
we just will have to disagree on this.  I think they have the talent to play man (not jump routes) and blitz at least 1 backer on each pass play.  Hell might as well send Pollard because he sure as hell can't cover anyone.

Have you watched any games this year?  They don't have the talent to double cover a receiver, let alone play man to man.  The entire secondary is absolutely lost out there.
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« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2010, 07:04:40 am »
I wanted Dunta out as much as the next guy....but it couldn't be worse with him, could it?

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« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2010, 07:09:42 am »
Have you watched any games this year?  They don't have the talent to double cover a receiver, let alone play man to man.  The entire secondary is absolutely lost out there.

yes.  Point is, by blitzing you don't give the qb time to get comfortable and throw his timing off.  Not thinking blitz every time, but be less predictable.  Give one of the Ryans this talent and see what would happen.  We won't find out this year.

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« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2010, 07:23:51 am »
yes.  Point is, by blitzing you don't give the qb time to get comfortable and throw his timing off. 

I agree with that.  I disagree with "I think they have the talent to play man (not jump routes)". 
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« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2010, 07:24:50 am »
I wanted Dunta out as much as the next guy....but it couldn't be worse with him, could it?

It couldn't be any worse, because right now is as bad as it could possibly be.  They couldn't be any worse if they played with 10 guys on defense.  Kareem Jackson is pointless.
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« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2010, 07:26:22 am »
I blame it on the evil Fox network. They seem to play much better on CBS.
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« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2010, 08:29:24 am »
It couldn't be any worse, because right now is as bad as it could possibly be.  They couldn't be any worse if they played with 10 guys on defense.  Kareem Jackson is pointless.

So is Pollard on passing downs.