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Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« on: September 21, 2010, 05:58:20 pm »
Astros:

Bourgeois CF
Kepp 2B
Pence RF
Lee 1B
Michaels LF
Johnson 3B
Manzella SS
Castro C
Happ P

Pesty little flies:

Espinosa 2B
Desmond SS
Dunn 1B
Zimmerman 3B
Morse RF
Rodriguez C
Bernadina LF
Maxwell CF
Lannan P

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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 06:18:03 pm »
Bourgeois singles and steals 2nd, then Kepp singles him in Astros 1, Gnats 0
Pence grounds out. Kepp to 2nd.
Lee lines out.
Michaels sends one out of the park. Astros 3, Gnats 0
Johnson doubles to LF.
Manzella flies out.

End of 1st. Astros 3, Gnats coming up to bat.
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2010, 06:20:42 pm »
Bogusevic in for Spaz in RF. No word yet on why Spaz was removed. Doesn't seem to have hurt himself running to 1B on the groundout anyway...
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 06:21:16 pm »
I am at work, not watching the game.  Gameday says Bogusevic in for Pence.  Anyone know what's up?
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 06:23:54 pm »
Bogusevic in for Spaz in RF. No word yet on why Spaz was removed. Doesn't seem to have hurt himself running to 1B on the groundout anyway...

Maybe we traded him for Crawford or some of them newfangled bats that double as deadly weapons.
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 06:24:01 pm »
I enjoy watching Bourn in CF, but it doesn't appear that Bourgeois is that much of a downgrade defensively.
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 06:24:28 pm »
I am at work, not watching the game.  Gameday says Bogusevic in for Pence.  Anyone know what's up?

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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 06:50:40 pm »
DoRay speculating that Carlos is playing better offensively because he's more engaged when he's playing 1B
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 06:54:10 pm »
Bogusevic ends the inning with a nice grab on a scorcher that looked like it was going to go over his head.

End 3: HOU 3, WAS 0
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 06:55:17 pm »
DoRay speculating that Carlos is playing better offensively because he's more engaged when he's playing 1B

I had read that somewhere else as well (Footer, Levine or McTaggart)
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 06:57:12 pm »
DoRay speculating that Carlos is playing better offensively because he's more engaged when he's playing 1B

Think it also appropriate to note he usually plays 1B against lefties, so his numbers are naturally going to be a bit better...
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 07:14:19 pm »
Middle 5: HOU 3, WAS 0
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 07:16:14 pm »
Natinals get their first hit of the evening to lead off the B5. Damn!
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 07:17:21 pm »
Natinals get their first hit of the evening to lead off the B5. Damn!

And we were doing so good at not mentioning that at all.
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 07:20:44 pm »
Pudge with a tailor made GIDP ball to short, but Manzella wiffs at it in some form or fashion (did't catch what actually happened, whether it took a bad bounce, he was fooled, or what).  Runners at 1B and 3B.

Grounder back to Happ towards 3B line, gets the runner at 3B hung up and out.  1 out, runners at 1B and 2B.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2010, 07:21:27 pm »
And we were doing so good at not mentioning that at all.

I bet DAS mentioned it to someone at the game.  Just sayin...
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2010, 07:26:36 pm »
Happ strikes out the 8-hole hitter, but then walks the opposing pitcher 3-1 to load up the bases.  2 outs,  bases juiced, B5.
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End 5: HOU 3, WAS 0
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2010, 07:28:16 pm »
Scorcher to 3B that was short-hopped by CJ who steps on 3b to end the threat.

End 5: HOU 3, WAS 0
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2010, 07:51:25 pm »
Johnson is one heck of a hitter
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End 7: HOU 3, WAS 1
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2010, 08:10:07 pm »
Melancon allows 1 run and another runner to 3B with no oouts, but is able to strand him there. 

End 7: HOU 3, WAS 1
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2010, 08:37:37 pm »
Well, fuck.
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2010, 08:37:56 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2010, 08:38:37 pm »
2 outs, 0-2 count. Double fuck.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2010, 08:45:37 pm »
It's entertaining enough to give DAS crap, but it is times like this that make me cringe on his behalf...

B8, 2 out, runners at 1B and 2B: HOU 3, WAS 3
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Re: Astros @ Gnats part deux 9-21-10
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2010, 08:47:29 pm »
2 outs, 0-2 count. Double fuck.

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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2010, 08:49:27 pm »
Yikes.
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2010, 08:51:05 pm »
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2010, 08:52:08 pm »
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2010, 08:57:18 pm »
Have the Natinals scored 6 runs with 2 outs in this inning?
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2010, 09:03:40 pm »
Have the Natinals scored 6 runs with 2 outs in this inning?

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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2010, 09:09:17 pm »
That was pretty remarkable. I'm sure glad it didn't happen in a pennant race.
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2010, 09:11:21 pm »
Can you believe Tal Smith thought CJ couldn't play?
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2010, 09:11:55 pm »
BFJ with a solo shot!!! HOU 4, WAS 8, 1 out, 0 on, T9.
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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2010, 09:12:48 pm »
And I know it is not much of a consolation, but perhaps this will cheer you up a just a bit...
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2010, 09:13:06 pm »
Can you believe Tal Smith thought CJ couldn't play?

I think there was a long list of people that thought CJ couldn't play.
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2010, 09:19:17 pm »
I think there was a long list of people that thought CJ couldn't play.

I have to admit that I wasn't convinced after watching him at RR. His fielding still concerns me, but he has hit *much* better than I expected. And the fact that he's keeping it up after half a season, when there has presumably been a bit of a book developed on him, is encouraging.
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2010, 09:50:16 pm »
I think there was a long list of people that thought CJ couldn't play.

It's the ones that are in charge of major league baseball organizations that concern me.
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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2010, 10:25:06 pm »
Can you believe Tal Smith thought CJ couldn't play?

I'm as big a prospect homer as anyone here, and I'm concerned this season is a one-time wonder for CJ.  Keep in mind PENCE!!! had that big rookie offensive campaign that he has failed to come close to duplicating.  I don't recall scouts thinking CJ would be even as good a hitter as Pence.  Too he's no great shakes defensively.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2010, 12:04:16 pm »
It's the ones that are in charge of major league baseball organizations that concern me.

The Astros got rid of some folks this minor league offseason.  Kinda makes you think about the reports they were filing, eh?

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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2010, 12:18:26 pm »
I'm as big a prospect homer as anyone here, and I'm concerned this season is a one-time wonder for CJ.  Keep in mind PENCE!!! had that big rookie offensive campaign that he has failed to come close to duplicating.  I don't recall scouts thinking CJ would be even as good a hitter as Pence.  Too he's no great shakes defensively.

Light switch.

There is a saying amongst baseball men (scouts, directors of operations, GM, etc.) "Sometimes, the light switch suddenly turns on for a player and there is no looking back".  I wonder if a combination of Jeff Bagwell's "Yoda-ish" tutoring/mentoring/butt-kicking ways and Johnson's makeup (hard working, no nonsense, doesn't give himself any excuses, doesn't like to be babied) kind of meshed.  Johnson went from "good prospect" to "Who is this guy?" just about the time Baggy took over as hitting coach.  Baggy made it clear, he preached "approach" more than "mechanics".  What I see from Johnson is that he is:

1. Aggressive - he is not scared to swing the bat... that is good for the lineup position he maintains on this club
2. Knows his strikezone - he isn't guessing as much as seeing the pitch travel as far as it can before he swings.  He knows it's a strike when it is thrown on the outside part of the plate.  Guess what?  He is doing eggszactly what Baggy was known to do - take the outside part of the plate and hit it where it's pitched.  But he's not just hitting it, he is smoking those line drive gappers to right and right-center.
3. Can turn on an inside pitch - it is important for a player who is letting a ball travel into the zone to have a quick bat.  A quick bat coupled with strength will equal power to left for a right handed batter.  Think of a young Scott Rolen if you will.  What has impressed me most about CJ is the ability to turn on inside pitches.  If I were a pitcher and I saw he was letting the ball travel and hitting my outside pitches hard to right, then I'd bust him inside.  The guys who frustrate you the most are the ones who let the ball travel even if it is inside, then turn on it with a nano-second blink of an eye and hit it a very long way.  Example would be a homerun he hit against the Jakes (or Reds) this last homestand.  It went up to the train tracks to about the same place Pujols and Jeff Kent hit their memorable homeruns.

So if Baggy plus CJ plus a light switch going to "on" means we have a good #5 hitter, then things bode well for the Astros.  What is more important is if Hunter Pence will ever develop such a consistent approach as CJ is exhibiting.  If so, then having a solid #3 is also a huge part of the equation of a winning ballclub.  That means that finally there is someone in the Astros organization that is telling young Mr. ThunderPants that "grip it and rip it" is no way to have a major league career son.  I felt that was what Cecil Cooper prescribed for Gunther and everyone agreed to let him do so.

Thank goodness Baggy is now calling "BS" on all of that.  Anyone think this offense clicking is *NOT* a product of a very good coach teaching these very happy to get information from a potential Hall of Famer bunch of kids?

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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2010, 12:50:08 pm »
Light switch.

If you plan on further fleshing out your 'Light Switch Theorum of Baseball Player Development' I'd make sure and add Jose Bautista as 'Exhibit A.'  Speaking of which, Kovacevic at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has an interesting article about the Pirates 'break-up' with Bautista.  LINK
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2010, 12:58:03 pm »
If you plan on further fleshing out your 'Light Switch Theorum of Baseball Player Development' I'd make sure and add Jose Bautista as 'Exhibit A.'  Speaking of which, Kovacevic at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has an interesting article about the Pirates 'break-up' with Bautista.  LINK

I sometimes will get some information from some people who are involved in the minor league system for the Astros.  Not a lot mind you, just some.  "Light Switch" is usually what is the most often talked about equation when they fill me in on a player to watch.  You can't explain it, but a coach and/or scout will see it and it manifest itself out on the field.  I like it when a coach tells a source information that is then relayed along.  They can't point to specifics, just that what they work on with the kid can frustrate them and then one day, the same kid "gets it!" and the proverbial light switch is "on".  Everything they work on is positive because the kid fully understands and can execute an approach easily.  And then that carries over into the field and then the world wonders why this kid all of a sudden seems to come out of nowhere and hits so well.  An example may be JD Martinez this year (and I've not been told anything about him from anyone, so that is just a guess).  There is a difference, however, from a "light switch" when speaking about Drew Locke and then when talking about Hunter Pence (for instance).

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2010, 03:08:57 pm »
If you plan on further fleshing out your 'Light Switch Theorum of Baseball Player Development'

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