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Wallace Batting 8th
« on: September 10, 2010, 04:06:51 pm »
Footer just posted tonight's lineup, and the Penguin is in the 8-hole (NTTAWWT).

Against a righty?  Bitch slap or natural result of everyone else hitting well too*?


* Yes, I know Wallace's average isn't great, but he has a solid swing and only in my mind are the Astros chasing anything.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 04:13:10 pm »
Other than a missed opportunity for Wallace to learn about situational hitting from the spot in the lineup that he'll probably occupy in the long term, what's the big deal?  It's just one game.

I guess the bigger question is where in the lineup Wallace projects to hit long term.  From what I've seen so far, he looks like a 5-6 hitter.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 04:15:29 pm »
Quote from: Limey on September 10, 2010, 04:06:51 pm
Footer just posted tonight's lineup, and the Penguin is in the 8-hole (NTTAWWT).

Against a righty?  Bitch slap or natural result of everyone else hitting well too*?


* Yes, I know Wallace's average isn't great, but he has a solid swing and only in my mind are the Astros chasing anything.

Looks like a flip with Castro.  Seems ok to me considering Castro's hitting .322 over his last 10 games.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 04:17:33 pm »
As long as the pitcher is batting 9th, I'm ok.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 04:18:02 pm »
Quote from: GreatBagwellsBeard on September 10, 2010, 04:13:10 pm
Other than a missed opportunity for Wallace to learn about situational hitting from the spot in the lineup that he'll probably occupy in the long term, what's the big deal?  It's just one game.

I guess the bigger question is where in the lineup Wallace projects to hit long term.  From what I've seen so far, he looks like a 5-6 hitter.

Most of the projections I've heard are anywhere from 3-6 depending on how high an average he's able to hit and how much power he hits with.  It will probably take some time to figure out the best spot to put him.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 04:18:11 pm »
Quote from: GreatBagwellsBeard on September 10, 2010, 04:13:10 pm
I guess the bigger question is where in the lineup Wallace projects to hit long term.  From what I've seen so far, he looks like a 5-6 hitter.

If he hits like he did in the minors, he could be a #3 guy in time. Right now I'd say he's a 5 or 6 guy if he gets back to line drives and base hits.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 04:37:54 pm »
He's not hitting for power right now, but that may be because he's steering his swing and not letting it fly (I'm not expert enough to know).  His iceburgian physique suggests that power hitting is in his capability, however.

I'm not a stickler for the "rule" that your 1Ber has to be a power hitter.  You need a functional line-up and a functional defense, and if you can put that together I don't give a fuck who does what.  If he's a 6-hole hitter, then so be it.  It just means that the #3 has to come from somewhere else on the field.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 04:47:36 pm »
Quote from: Limey on September 10, 2010, 04:37:54 pm
I'm not a stickler for the "rule" that your 1Ber has to be a power hitter.  You need a functional line-up and a functional defense, and if you can put that together I don't give a fuck who does what.  If he's a 6-hole hitter, then so be it.  It just means that the #3 has to come from somewhere else on the field.

If he's a 6-hole hitter with limited power, then CJ better turn into Mike Schmidt.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 04:53:10 pm »
Mills seems to have made some pretty good decisions with this group of guys. Maybe take some pressure off Wallace and let him be aggressive before the pitcher's spot?
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 05:08:12 pm »
Quote from: EasTexAstro on September 10, 2010, 04:53:10 pm
Mills seems to have made some pretty good decisions with this group of guys. Maybe take some pressure off Wallace and let him be aggressive before the pitcher's spot?

Per Footer:

On the lineup...Mills is simply trying something different, putting Wallace in less pressure situation. That's all.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 12:13:13 pm »
Quote from: EasTexAstro on September 10, 2010, 04:53:10 pm
Mills seems to have made some pretty good decisions with this group of guys. Maybe take some pressure off Wallace and let him be aggressive before the pitcher's spot?

Actually, the eight is a tough place to hit, because pitchers frequently don't give in to the eight with the pitcher coming up next (except in STL).

Mills has done a masterful job with the club. I can honestly say that after having watched just about every pitch this season that I can't remember more than a single situation where I questioned his decision.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 12:32:53 pm »
Just getting these guys in the right frame of mind after the beginning of the season has been great to watch. There should also be a lot of credit to Arnsberg for working with the staff and to the both of them for doing a great job managing the pitchers.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 11:26:57 am »
No doubt.  Mills has really steadied this team and Arnsberg deserves as much mention as Bagwell.  I doubt there was anyone who expected this level of success from the pitching staff. 
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Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 11:37:27 am »
The team started out the year with a giant sized Cooper hangover. That coupled with extended slumps by Berkman and Lee (not to mention an accute and chronic Oswaltitis) created a tremendous amount of drag. Mills - with a big assisit from Wade - has done a remarkable job getting the team righted and playing consistent above .500 ball.
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Re: Wallace Batting 8th
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 12:54:35 pm »
Quote from: geezerdonk on September 13, 2010, 11:37:27 am
The team started out the year with a giant sized Cooper hangover. That coupled with extended slumps by Berkman and Lee (not to mention an accute and chronic Oswaltitis) created a tremendous amount of drag. Mills - with a big assisit from Wade - has done a remarkable job getting the team righted and playing consistent above .500 ball.

Excellent points.

Plus, injuries have played a role. I believe that Berkman wasn't right at the beginning of the year. Arias has been out all year, and Paulino has been hurt for a substantial part of the season, after he was pitching extremely well. Fulchino pitched hurt too. The club has played above .500 since June 1, and is ten games over .500 since the ASB.
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