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Rangers to Gilbert?
« on: December 02, 2009, 11:53:51 am »
Sporting News reporting:

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-12-02/texas-rangers-may-soon-be-sold-former-agent

Question: If Ryan loses out in the bidding, does he stay on as President?  I hope not.  And simply for the reason that if Ryan is not in the Rangers hierarchy, the odds of losing RR to the Rangers is lower, in theory anyway. 
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 11:56:47 am »
Sporting News reporting:

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-12-02/texas-rangers-may-soon-be-sold-former-agent

Question: If Ryan loses out in the bidding, does he stay on as President?  I hope not.  And simply for the reason that if Ryan is not in the Rangers hierarchy, the odds of losing RR to the Rangers is lower, in theory anyway. 

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 12:23:49 pm »
Ryan was reported by the Dallas News to be a part of two possible bidding groups. IIRC Gilbert's group was one of them. I will be surprised if Ryan isn't still in his President role next year.

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 12:36:46 pm »
Any group that buys the Rangers but lets Ryan go is doomed to a PR nightmare.

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 01:28:20 pm »
Any group that buys the Rangers but lets Ryan go is doomed to a PR nightmare.

Precisely. He is a major asset and brings credibility to the organization. Additionally, I think he will end up with a piece-of-the ownership pie.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 03:12:03 pm »
Ryan was reported by the Dallas News to be a part of two possible bidding groups. IIRC Gilbert's group was one of them. I will be surprised if Ryan isn't still in his President role next year.

This statement from the article seems to contradict that...

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Gilbert and his fellow investors have moved ahead of at least two competing groups, one of which includes Rangers president Nolan Ryan.

Perhaps somone could put together a Venn diagram detailing Ryan's presence in the ownership groups.  Just be sure to keep the "Good idea for the Rangers" within the boundaries of "Nolan".

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 03:34:50 pm »
This statement from the article seems to contradict that...

Perhaps somone could put together a Venn diagram detailing Ryan's presence in the ownership groups.  Just be sure to keep the "Good idea for the Rangers" within the boundaries of "Nolan".

Being excluded from an ownership group doesn't exclude him from keeping his job as Club President. But "supposably" his move to DFW was to be part of an ownership group, which was something Drayton wasn't going to offer.

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 03:36:40 pm »
Any group that buys the Rangers but lets Ryan go is doomed to a PR nightmare.

A bit like letting him go when a pitcher, huh?
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 04:40:20 pm »
A bit like letting him go when a pitcher, huh?

You had to say that.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 06:33:49 am »
And simply for the reason that if Ryan is not in the Rangers hierarchy, the odds of losing RR to the Rangers is lower, in theory anyway. 

Nolan Ryan has a business decision to make with the RR team. If it's in his best financial interest to change affiliations, he will, if it's not, he wont.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 07:23:03 am »
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 07:52:56 am »
Here's the latest from reliable writer Evan Grant of the DMN. Tom Hicks has tried to raise cash to retain the team by getting an upfront cash infusion from FOX Sports for a contract extension but MLB nixed the deal due to concerns about cash flow down the road from TV revenue. In other words, MLB does not approve of such a large part of the extension being paid up front. Gilbert's bid is the leading one at this time over the Chuck Greenburg bid (this is the one that Ryan is parterned with). A third bid by Houstonian Jim Crane has never gotten much traction and, this is where it gets interesting, part of the problem with Crane is that MLB has a bad taste in it's mouth from Crane backing out of a verbal deal to buy the Houston Astros and would not approve him. Does anybody here no when that occured? Meanwhile, Hicks is trying to put together a deal with Gilbert where he would retain some ownership of the club.

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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 10:10:24 am »
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 04:08:10 pm »
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night.

That's exactly the kind of information we need.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 04:14:21 pm »
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night.

I guess it's pretty serious.
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2009, 02:59:41 pm »
Ryan goes public:

http://espn.go.com/dallas/columns/rangers/blog/_/post/4725363?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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"Under the scenario that was presented to me by Tom last week, after thinking about it for a couple of days, I told Tom that I didn't feel like I would stay with the ballclub if Dennis came in under that scenario," Ryan said.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 09:08:45 am »
Ryan goes public:

http://espn.go.com/dallas/columns/rangers/blog/_/post/4725363?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter



Wow. Clearly a surprise to me. Will Drayton reach out to him to in an expanded role with Astros if he severs ties with Rangers?

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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 11:22:47 am »

Wow. Clearly a surprise to me. Will Drayton reach out to him to in an expanded role with Astros if he severs ties with Rangers?
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 09:36:52 am »
Today is the deadline imposed by MLB on Hicks to make a decision on the sale of the Rangers. Another twist in the tale according to today's Dallas Morning News. Houston businessman Jim Crane who was considered out of the picture a week or so ago as emerged as the possible frontrunner after submitting a new bid that is the highest on the table. The article does not say if Ryan would be involved with Crane but there was a report a couple of days ago that Crane was going to re-submit and had reached out to Ryan.
Once again, there is this in the final paragraph. " Crane's odds might not be much better if he were to reach the final phase in the process, getting 75% of baseball's owners to approve the sale.He once reneged on an agreement to buy the Houston Astros and that still doesn't sit well with many MLB executives and owners." 

 

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 10:27:22 am »
Per TR Sullivan of Rangers.com, the "handshake agreement" with Drayton was in 2008 (LINK):

Crane's candicacy appeared to be in doubt because of a handshake agreement to buy the Astros in the fall of 2008 that fell apart in the final hour, and that seemed to cast doubt among Major League officials if he would ultimately gain approval to buy the Rangers. But that could be a moot point if he is deemed the highest bidder in this situation.
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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 10:49:03 am »
Per TR Sullivan of Rangers.com, the "handshake agreement" with Drayton was in 2008 (LINK):

Crane's candicacy appeared to be in doubt because of a handshake agreement to buy the Astros in the fall of 2008 that fell apart in the final hour, and that seemed to cast doubt among Major League officials if he would ultimately gain approval to buy the Rangers. But that could be a moot point if he is deemed the highest bidder in this situation.

Has anyone seen any discussion of this in Houston media or do they have be issued a press release to learn of something?

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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2009, 10:51:12 am »
This is pretty big news, no?  Would you look at any of last falls moves as precursors to a sale? 
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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 11:20:48 am »
Supposedly, Drayton's kids don't want the franchise, and he wants out.  But the timing is horrible, and he can't get serious interest in what he's asking for.

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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2009, 11:35:22 am »
Supposedly, Drayton's kids don't want the franchise, and he wants out.  But the timing is horrible, and he can't get serious interest in what he's asking for.

I'm in the exact same boat with you, Drayton.  Try putting in some new carpet and updating the fixtures.  Oh, and mention the tax credit expiring in June.
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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2009, 12:02:56 pm »
Supposedly, Drayton's kids don't want the franchise, and he wants out.  But the timing is horrible, and he can't get serious interest in what he's asking for.

Is this new thinking on the family's part?  I was under the impression that his kids *did* want the team, but then again, this is me we're talking about...
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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2009, 12:57:14 pm »
Is this new thinking on the family's part?  I was under the impression that his kids *did* want the team, but then again, this is me we're talking about...

Something has  changed, but I don't know what.

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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 01:19:05 pm »
Something has  changed, but I don't know what.

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 03:37:23 pm »
The fact that we're just now hearing about this is pretty amazing. I know it's the Chronicle, but you'd think SOMEONE on that staff would have heard something about it and jumped all over it. I almost have to believe the 'Stros asked them not to write about it, and they--for whatever reason--agreed. That, or the Astros are better at keeping things close to the vest than almost every other organization/business/governing body I've ever encountered.

Assuming, of course, that this is true. Until we get more details, it's hard to say.

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 03:51:20 pm »
The fact that we're just now hearing about this is pretty amazing. I know it's the Chronicle, but you'd think SOMEONE on that staff would have heard something about it and jumped all over it. I almost have to believe the 'Stros asked them not to write about it, and they--for whatever reason--agreed. That, or the Astros are better at keeping things close to the vest than almost every other organization/business/governing body I've ever encountered.

Assuming, of course, that this is true. Until we get more details, it's hard to say.

I asked Footer, but to your point perhaps I shouldn't expect a response.

It's hard to believe this went a full year without becoming a story.  If you search, though, you can see references to it almost a month ago, but always as an aside as if it was common knowledge.
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2009, 04:05:05 pm »
I also remember reading about Crane's attempted purchase a month or so ago when his name first came up, but there wasn't, afaik, a year attached.

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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2009, 04:07:24 pm »
The fact that we're just now hearing about this is pretty amazing. I know it's the Chronicle, but you'd think SOMEONE on that staff would have heard something about it and jumped all over it. I almost have to believe the 'Stros asked them not to write about it, and they--for whatever reason--agreed. That, or the Astros are better at keeping things close to the vest than almost every other organization/business/governing body I've ever encountered.

Assuming, of course, that this is true. Until we get more details, it's hard to say.

Someone asked Justice about this.  Here was his response:

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[As I understand it, MLB owners must go through a process with the commissioner's office if they want to sale, and that process generally is pretty public. If Drayton wants to sell, there's no reason to keep it secret. He wants it public to attract as many bidders as possible. And he has said emphatically the Astros aren't for sale. For what it's worth, I don't think he'll ever sell, and neither do those closest to him. Maybe an illness would change that. Owning the Astros is his identity. He loves walking along the strees and greeting people. If he sells the Astros, he's another guy in Temple selling green beans and cigarettes.--Richard]

Basically, he doesn't explicitly deny it, but doesn't confirm it, either.  He just talks in circles without addressing the specific bid.  His points are that these things are usually public, Drayton says no, and he doesn't think Drayton will ever sell.  Could be that he really hadn't heard, was keeping quiet, or there really isn't anything to report.  

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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2009, 04:11:12 pm »
Someone asked Justice about this.  Here was his response:

Basically, he doesn't explicitly deny it, but doesn't confirm it, either.  He just talks in circles without addressing the specific bid.  His points are that these things are usually public, Drayton says no, and he doesn't think Drayton will ever sell.  Could be that he really hadn't heard, was keeping quiet, or there really isn't anything to report. 

I'm going to go with he doesn't have a fucking clue and refuses to admit that fact.
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2009, 04:11:32 pm »
I asked Footer, but to your point perhaps I shouldn't expect a response.

It's hard to believe this went a full year without becoming a story.  If you search, though, you can see references to it almost a month ago, but always as an aside as if it was common knowledge.

Ringolsby (Rocky Mountain News) mentioned it offhandedly at the beginning of October.

Word is two other teams are available — the Houston Astros and Arizona Diamondbacks — although there is no indication that there have been any serious talks with a prospective buyer for either team.

My Fox Houston shot down the rumor shortly thereafter (I thought Footer did as well, but cant find the reference): LINK

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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2009, 04:14:01 pm »
Someone asked Justice about this.  Here was his response:

Basically, he doesn't explicitly deny it, but doesn't confirm it, either.  He just talks in circles without addressing the specific bid.  His points are that these things are usually public, Drayton says no, and he doesn't think Drayton will ever sell.  Could be that he really hadn't heard, was keeping quiet, or there really isn't anything to report.  

My money says he didn't know.  That Zipp directly contradicts him, suggests he's STILL not clued in to what's going on.  The Houston Chronicle, ladies and gentlemen.

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And this is so stupid it's embarrassing.  Perhaps Drayton should post it on Craigslist.
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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2009, 04:42:17 pm »
My money says he didn't know.  That Zipp directly contradicts him, suggests he's STILL not clued in to what's going on.  The Houston Chronicle, ladies and gentlemen.

And this is so stupid it's embarrassing.  Perhaps Drayton should post it on Craigslist.

Please do not confuse me with an actual news source.  What I heard was from a lawyer that has worked closely with people who would know.

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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 04:54:46 pm »
I don't think I'd underestimate Crane in any business-type negotiations.  Maybe MLB is wary of him, if they are, because they're afraid he'll pull a quick one on them, or Hicks, or Drayton, or whomever.

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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2009, 10:07:07 pm »
The Greenburg group out of Pittsburgh has been chosen by Hicks as the buying group. This is the group Ryan was most involved with including an ownership stake. Damn.

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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2009, 09:26:05 am »
Makes you wonder if Crane pulled out of the 2008 handshake because of a better deal in getting the Rangers.  Now that that supposedly is off the table...did he burn the bridge with Drayton?  The roster is pretty much set, so now would seemingly be a good time to change owners if it was going to happen.


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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2009, 06:43:57 pm »
Makes you wonder if Crane pulled out of the 2008 handshake because of a better deal in getting the Rangers.  Now that that supposedly is off the table...did he burn the bridge with Drayton?  The roster is pretty much set, so now would seemingly be a good time to change owners if it was going to happen.




Despite news reports to the contrary, Drayton says there is no hard feelings between he and Crane, that the deal soured because of the recession? Really? Crane has tried to buy the Cubs and the Rangers during this recession. You would think that the team he would really covet would be the one in his hometown. Now that the Ranger deal is seemingly settled, if he doesn't approach McLane again I would venture there are hard feelings.

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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2009, 10:46:19 pm »
Has any member of the press bothered to ask Crane about his side of the story with respect to the sale of the Astros?
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2009, 07:39:22 am »
Has any member of the press bothered to ask Crane about his side of the story with respect to the sale of the Astros?

The Houston press? Like the Chronicle? They don't need facts to work from. Theories and personal feelings are just fine, thank you.

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2009, 08:48:38 am »
The Houston press? Like the Chronicle? They don't need facts to work from. Theories and personal feelings are just fine, thank you.

In fact, Justice vomitted this morning that it's just a matter of time before the team is sold.  Or that he can't believe it will be sold.  Or...SHINY OBJECT!!!

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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2009, 09:44:11 am »
In fact, Justice vomitted this morning that it's just a matter of time before the team is sold.  Or that he can't believe it will be sold.  Or...SHINY OBJECT!!!

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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2009, 10:54:34 am »
In fact, Justice vomitted this morning that it's just a matter of time before the team is sold.  Or that he can't believe it will be sold.  Or...SHINY OBJECT!!!

It's also a just a matter of time before the sun burns out and all life as we know it is extinguished, but that's hardly newsworthy, is it?
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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2009, 11:02:29 am »
It's also a just a matter of time before the sun burns out and all life as we know it is extinguished, but that's hardly newsworthy, is it?

Exactly.  In my college journalism classes we'd automatically fail an assignment if we used certain phrases.  "Time will tell," was one of them.  So was, "It's just a matter of time."  But there I go again confusing Justice with journalism....
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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2009, 11:19:49 am »
Exactly.  In my college journalism classes we'd automatically fail an assignment if we used certain phrases.  "Time will tell," was one of them.  So was, "It's just a matter of time."  But there I go again confusing Justice with journalism....

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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2009, 11:50:05 am »
too bad he didn't go to that school...oh wait, nevermind

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I know for a fact Justice went to Texas. He was on The Daily Texan staff part of the time I was.

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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2009, 01:38:11 pm »
It's also a just a matter of time before the sun burns out and all life as we know it is extinguished, but that's hardly newsworthy, is it?

And how is that any of your business?
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2009, 01:46:56 pm »
too bad he didn't go to that school...oh wait, nevermind

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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2009, 01:48:26 pm »
I don't want her to pull it, so I'll just bury it in here...

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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2009, 01:50:53 pm »
I don't want her to pull it, so I'll just bury it in here...

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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2009, 01:55:14 pm »
I don't want her to pull it, so I'll just bury it in here...

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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2009, 02:07:53 pm »
I don't want her to pull it, so I'll just bury it in here...

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I couldn't figure out the bitch. Maybe she buried it already?
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2009, 02:10:22 pm »
I couldn't figure out the bitch. Maybe she buried it already?

Check out the 2nd tweet from top.
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2009, 02:26:39 pm »
Drinking for two.

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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2009, 02:29:31 pm »
She is just doing her best to Combat Ignorance.
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2009, 02:31:01 pm »
He's a dopey looking motherfucker isn't he.
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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2009, 02:41:00 pm »
Check out the 2nd tweet from top.

I should have known by the name of the person who prompted her reply.
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2009, 03:13:07 pm »
I can't figure out who is saying what on that twitter bullshit? I just assume all the stupid shit is misterthreepercenter.

ETA: I figured it out. Impressive, I know.
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2009, 03:21:45 pm »
KissMyAstros.com is EXACTLY what I would expect 3% to name his blog.

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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2009, 08:37:50 pm »
I think you just made strosrays' christmas.

He is stalking her, on Twitter.  Judging from the times, he must have been posting some of that shit from the teacher's lounge.

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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2009, 09:45:39 am »
He is stalking her, on Twitter.  Judging from the times, he must have been posting some of that shit from the teacher's lounge.

Don't you watch the news? These days the teacher's lounge is like the Champagne Room...
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2009, 09:53:09 am »
Don't you watch the news? These days the teacher's lounge is like the Champagne Room...

Hmm, that gives me an idea for a specially themed Gentleman's club.  Get me the Smut VCs on the phone, they're gonna love this!
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« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2009, 01:16:08 pm »
Don't you watch the news? These days the teacher's lounge is like the Champagne Room...

My mind is fixed on the teacher's lounge from my high school (1978) -- a mysterious place into which I was never allowed.  When I passed by, however, I could often hear muffled profanity-laced tirades, and cigarette smoke billowing out under, over and around the door.

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« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2009, 01:42:13 pm »
My mind is fixed on the teacher's lounge from my high school (1978) -- a mysterious place into which I was never allowed.  When I passed by, however, I could often hear muffled profanity-laced tirades, and cigarette smoke billowing out under, over and around the door.

...and repeated repeated shouts of "spank the erasure...spank the erasure...YES...like that".

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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2009, 02:26:35 pm »
My mind is fixed on the teacher's lounge from my high school (1978) -- a mysterious place into which I was never allowed.  When I passed by, however, I could often hear muffled profanity-laced tirades, and cigarette smoke billowing out under, over and around the door.

I was an occasional coffee boy for some of my teachers, so I got to see it up close and personal.  Worn-out couches with outdated floral prints, held together by decades of sweat, a grimy coffee machine, staticky radio droning 740 AM, and (no kidding) orange shag carpeting that was at least 20 years old.  Now that's the kind of place a gentleman would enjoying exploring his feelings with a classy lady!
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2009, 04:42:46 pm »
Speaking of need for another middle infielder, Bruntlett is a FA.
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Re: Rangers to Gilbert?
« Reply #67 on: December 25, 2009, 11:05:31 am »
Exactly.  In my college journalism classes we'd automatically fail an assignment if we used certain phrases.  "Time will tell," was one of them.  So was, "It's just a matter of time."  But there I go again confusing Justice with journalism....

Not Dick Justice, but:

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