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backe DFA
« on: June 26, 2009, 10:51:49 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 10:52:46 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2009, 12:00:41 am »
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Re: backe DFA
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2009, 12:04:48 am »
Chron link.  The lack of a direct quote from Backe tells me that it took too much editing to get the real thing into a family newspaper, so Levine just summed up.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2009, 01:13:14 am »
Wow, what a difference 4 years makes.

Back in October of '05, we witnessed two of the guttiest starting pitching performances this franchise has ever seen.  And yet here we are this evening wondering if another club will even take a flier on him to provide another shot at cracking a rotation.

It's always tough to see a once promising career fizzle, but it was plain as day when Brandon first took the hill this season that the surgeries and setbacks have just taken too much away from his overall ability.  For a guy who never had a very deep repertoire, a heater than barely cracks 88 and often finds it's way up in the zone is unfortunately a recipe for disaster.  

I had some hope initially that he could model himself after a pitcher like Sampson and develop a sinker to help him compensate for the lost velocity, but Backe's football-driven approach to always 'challenging' opposing hitters might be too much for him to overcome...at least in the short term.

If I were his agent, I would honestly encourage him to accept the assignment and literally go back to square one while trying to re-invent himself as a long-reliever down in Round Rock.  When you look at all the variables that have hindered his success in recent seasons, it's very clear that a simple 'change of big league scenery' is gonna suddenly right the ship for the pride of Ball High School.

Regardless of what transpires...best of wishes the rest of the way, Brandon.  We certainly won't forget all of the great, thrilling moments you provided the Astros community.


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Re: backe DFA
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2009, 08:33:35 am »
Wow, what a difference 4 years makes.

Back in October of '05, we witnessed two of the guttiest starting pitching performances this franchise has ever seen.  And yet here we are this evening wondering if another club will even take a flier on him to provide another shot at cracking a rotation.

It's always tough to see a once promising career fizzle, but it was plain as day when Brandon first took the hill this season that the surgeries and setbacks have just taken too much away from his overall ability.  For a guy who never had a very deep repertoire, a heater than barely cracks 88 and often finds it's way up in the zone is unfortunately a recipe for disaster.  

I had some hope initially that he could model himself after a pitcher like Sampson and develop a sinker to help him compensate for the lost velocity, but Backe's football-driven approach to always 'challenging' opposing hitters might be too much for him to overcome...at least in the short term.

If I were his agent, I would honestly encourage him to accept the assignment and literally go back to square one while trying to re-invent himself as a long-reliever down in Round Rock.  When you look at all the variables that have hindered his success in recent seasons, it's very clear that a simple 'change of big league scenery' is gonna suddenly right the ship for the pride of Ball High School.

Regardless of what transpires...best of wishes the rest of the way, Brandon.  We certainly won't forget all of the great, thrilling moments you provided the Astros community.



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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2009, 10:05:09 am »
Clearly this is the right decision but I can't help but feel bad for Backe. He's a gutty guy and playing for his hometown team was a dream come true. Wish it had ended better for him.

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Re: backe DFA
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2009, 10:14:53 am »
The countdown is on to Pinwheel's faux-indignant "Drayton is a ruthless businessman who only cares about the bottom line  and shows no loyalty" column. Also known as The Woody Williams rant.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2009, 10:25:26 am »
The countdown is on to Pinwheel's faux-indignant "Drayton is a ruthless businessman who only cares about the bottom line  and shows no loyalty" column. Also known as The Woody Williams rant.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2009, 10:44:19 pm »
Back in October of '05, we witnessed two of the guttiest starting pitching performances this franchise has ever seen.  

Which two?  Backe started 3 games in the '05 playoffs, with 1 (World Series game 4) being in that category you described. I assume the second one you speak of is the 2004 NLCS Game 5 that Jeff Kent ended.  

In those 2 games, he pitched a combined 15 scoreless innings with two no decisions.  No justice.   

I'll always be thankful of those memories he gave me and my family.  Game 5 in 2004 was the best feeling I've ever had attending a baseball game.

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2009, 11:43:37 am »
He showed a ton of heart (and ability) in those two games.  Its too bad everything didn't work out for him.....
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2009, 03:01:56 pm »
He also did a nice but understandably overlooked job in The DP Game in the 05 NLCS.
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Re: backe DFA
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2009, 06:25:02 pm »
In (Astros) Memoriam, Brandon “Big Game” Backe: Dec. 14, 2004 – June 26, 2009
Nice. There was also this game, where if memory serves he was an emergency fill-in for an injured Clemens and left with a 5-0 lead after 5+ innings, getting the Wild-Card-clinching win (and two ribbies) on the last day of the '04 season.
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Re: backe DFA
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 09:09:31 am »
Nice. There was also this game, where if memory serves he was an emergency fill-in for an injured Clemens and left with a 5-0 lead after 5+ innings, getting the Wild-Card-clinching win (and two ribbies) on the last day of the '04 season.

Yep.  All the best to Mr. Backe, I was at Game 5 of the NLCS in '04 and I will never forget that performance.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2009, 11:06:08 am »
In (Astros) Memoriam, Brandon “Big Game” Backe: Dec. 14, 2004 – June 26, 2009

Of those three games, I was there for two of 'em.  I have the Kent Homer game on my computer.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2009, 11:35:19 am »
Of those three games, I was there for two of 'em.  I have the Kent Homer game on my computer.

All three for me.  Great memories.
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2009, 07:35:55 pm »
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Clubhouse update: Backe cleared waivers; rejected assignment to AAA; becomes free agent.
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2009, 09:10:41 pm »
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Clubhouse update: Backe cleared waivers; rejected assignment to AAA; becomes free agent.

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Re: backe DFA
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2009, 09:24:07 pm »
He's delusional.

Prolly, yep. But now that he's cleared waivers and is a free agent, isn't the signing team only responsible for the pro-rated league minimum? Or do I have that wrong? If that's right, then he's at least somewhat more attractive to teams now than when he was on waivers. Of course, there's still the small matter of being able to pitch worth a shit...
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2009, 09:49:31 pm »
Pro rated league minimum.

The Backe ship has sailed in Houston.  Better to go see if he can resurrect his career elsewhere.
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2009, 11:15:54 am »
I guess I'm a little disappointed to hear Brandon speak so negatively about "the way he was treated" and "not being given a chance" by Wade & Co.

Given his recurrent inability to generate outs and highly questionable off-season episode in Galveston this past Winter, he was very fortunate to even be tendered a contract this Spring. 

The bottom line is the guy hasn't even been a marginally effective pitcher since his original surgical procedure.  At some point he's gonna have to look in the mirror and stop blaming the organization for his plight. 


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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2009, 11:56:06 am »
I guess I'm a little disappointed to hear Brandon speak so negatively about "the way he was treated" and "not being given a chance" by Wade & Co.

Given his recurrent inability to generate outs and highly questionable off-season episode in Galveston this past Winter, he was very fortunate to even be tendered a contract this Spring. 

The bottom line is the guy hasn't even been a marginally effective pitcher since his original surgical procedure.  At some point he's gonna have to look in the mirror and stop blaming the organization for his plight. 



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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2009, 12:18:52 pm »
I wouldn't hold the Galveston fiasco against him.  He wasn't charged and the city of Galveston is going to end up getting sued over it.
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2009, 12:28:26 pm »
Pro rated league minimum.


Actually, I think if he refuses a minor league assignment, he does not receive termination pay.  So he works out whatever deal he can with whatever team wants him. 
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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2009, 12:38:29 pm »

Actually, I think if he refuses a minor league assignment, he does not receive termination pay.  So he works out whatever deal he can with whatever team wants him. 
I think that is correct.  The organization is committed to paying him, but can reassign him to the minors as a condition for continuing to get paid.  They can't reassign him to non-playing duties, but if they are willing to give him a roster spot and he turns it down, that is a voluntary separation and his paycheck stops.
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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2009, 12:39:13 pm »

Actually, I think if he refuses a minor league assignment, he does not receive termination pay.  So he works out whatever deal he can with whatever team wants him.  

I thought JD and Brownie said Backe was guaranteed his money, regardless if he accepted assignment due to service time with the astros.
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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2009, 12:39:51 pm »
I pretty much knew he was going to react that way.  My favorite moment was when him and Frankenberry had their little altercation.

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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2009, 12:45:07 pm »
I thought JD and Brownie said Backe was guaranteed his money, regardless if he accepted assignment due to service time with the astros.

Let me clarify...if he refuses the assignment and opts free agency, he does not get paid.  He can reject the free agency, and then force the Astros to release him.  I'm not sure of his current situation.  If he still gets paid, then he's not a free agent, at least not yet.
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2009, 12:49:59 pm »
Let me clarify...if he refuses the assignment and opts free agency, he does not get paid.  He can reject the free agency, and then force the Astros to release him.  I'm not sure of his current situation.  If he still gets paid, then he's not a free agent, at least not yet.
I heard someone say that the Astros were giving him his unconditional release.

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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2009, 12:53:56 pm »
I heard someone say that the Astros were giving him his unconditional release.


If that's the case, he'll get paid.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2009, 12:54:53 pm »

If that's the case, he'll get paid.

I believe it was JD or Brownie during Sunday's game.

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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2009, 01:02:19 pm »
I pretty much knew he was going to react that way.  My favorite moment was when him and Frankenberry had their little altercation.
I thought that was with Pujols.

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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2009, 01:07:29 pm »
I thought that was with Pujols.
There was the PooHoles one as well. This one was in Frisco I believe.  Backe bounced a breaking pitch and hit Barry if I remember correctly.