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Why Ortiz in relief
« on: April 13, 2009, 04:22:43 pm »
Jonathan Mayo, filling in for Alyson Footer on the recap, (my  guess is they were afraid to let her near a key board) "Russ Ortiz threw a scoreless frame, getting in some work for his Thursday start."
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Doesn't look like a quote from Cooper, but seems the most likely explanation.  Might as well let him throw his bullpen in the game.  Not like anyone expected the Astros to score 6 runs at that point.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2009, 04:32:06 pm »
Jonathan Mayo, filling in for Alyson Footer on the recap, (my  guess is they were afraid to let her near a key board) "Russ Ortiz threw a scoreless frame, getting in some work for his Thursday start."
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Doesn't look like a quote from Cooper, but seems the most likely explanation.  Might as well let him throw his bullpen in the game.  Not like anyone expected the Astros to score 6 runs at that point.

There were a lot of "whys" associated with today's game.  That one isn't close to the top of the list.
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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 04:35:08 pm »
Jonathan Mayo, filling in for Alyson Footer on the recap, (my  guess is they were afraid to let her near a key board) "Russ Ortiz threw a scoreless frame, getting in some work for his Thursday start."
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Doesn't look like a quote from Cooper, but seems the most likely explanation.  Might as well let him throw his bullpen in the game.  Not like anyone expected the Astros to score 6 runs at that point.

Ortiz was throwing a bullpen and Moehler was throwing batting practice.  Will Spring Training ever end?!!!
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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 04:36:29 pm »
There were a lot of "whys" associated with today's game.  That one isn't close to the top of the list.

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 04:37:43 pm »
There were a lot of "whys" associated with today's game.  That one isn't close to the top of the list.

Yeah, but it's one that may have been answered.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2009, 04:39:53 pm »
See if you can ferret out why Coop would keep Q up in their only scoring opportunity, then PH with Pudge the next inning.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2009, 04:42:23 pm »
See if you can ferret out why Coop would keep Q up in their only scoring opportunity, then PH with Pudge the next inning.

I'm watching for it but I dont have much faith that anyone is going to ask him that one.

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 04:45:50 pm »
I'm watching for it but I dont have much faith that anyone is going to ask him that one.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 05:15:21 pm »
I'm watching for it but I dont have much faith that anyone is going to ask him that one.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 05:50:08 pm »
Ortiz was throwing a bullpen and Moehler was throwing batting practice.  Will Spring Training ever end?!!!

Being the glass half full guy that I am, I'd like to note that Moehler improved his season ERA by more than 10 runs today.
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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 05:54:07 pm »
Being the glass half full guy that I am, I'd like to note that Moehler improved his season ERA by more than 10 runs today.

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 06:02:02 pm »
Being the glass half full guy that I am, I'd like to note that Moehler improved his season ERA by more than 10 runs today.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 07:21:17 pm »
Yeah, but it's one that may have been answered.

True.  Sorry if I sounded surly.  I assure you, there was a reason for that.
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2009, 10:34:28 pm »
Being the glass half full guy that I am, I'd like to note that Moehler improved his season ERA by more than 10 runs today.

Looks like I'm out of the doghouse now.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2009, 10:36:42 pm »

Looks like I'm out of the doghouse now.

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2009, 10:42:20 pm »

Looks like I'm out of the doghouse now.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2009, 11:51:49 pm »
Well its not gonna get any better this series.  The Pirates appear to be for real and this Astros team is in the dumps.  We might not see this team score for the rest of April.

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2009, 12:20:37 am »
Well its not gonna get any better this series.  The Pirates appear to be for real and this Astros team is in the dumps.  We might not see this team score for the rest of April.

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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2009, 07:54:51 am »
Well its not gonna get any better this series.  The Pirates appear to be for real and this Astros team is in the dumps.  We might not see this team score for the rest of April.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2009, 09:14:16 am »

Looks like I'm out of the doghouse now.

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2009, 09:18:23 am »
This guy is an obvious troll, not a clueless astros fan. How he is still around boggles my mind.
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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2009, 09:18:30 am »
Filo-SnS' annoying little sister.  You're going to tease me about being stood up at prom, too, aren't you?

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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2009, 09:29:17 am »
This guy is an obvious troll, not a clueless astros fan. How he is still around boggles my mind.

Outright idiocy isn't (currently) a bannable offense.

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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2009, 10:34:40 am »
Looks like I'm out of the doghouse now.

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Re: Why Ortiz in relief
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2009, 10:47:55 am »
This guy is an obvious troll, not a clueless astros fan. How he is still around boggles my mind.

You never know.  For example, you were onced called both. 
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2009, 10:49:30 am »
You never know.  For example, you were onced called both. 

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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2009, 10:50:29 am »
You never know.  For example, you were onced called both. 

So Filo can aspire to effete snobbery?
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2009, 11:04:16 am »
So Filo can aspire to effete snobbery?

He's posted all that stupid shit with a pinky extended.
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2009, 11:29:52 am »

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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2009, 11:39:54 am »
See if you can ferret out why Coop would keep Q up in their only scoring opportunity, then PH with Pudge the next inning.

I orignally was confused by this, but the more I think about it...  They were down 6-0 at the time.  Somebody was going to have to pinch hit in the 9th spot if the 8 hitter got on.  The entire bench was lefty (Blum switch who is horrible against lefties) except for Pudge.  Q sounded pretty lost in his first couple of ABs, but historically he would be a better option against lefties then anybody else off the bench.  If you assume Pudge batting in the 9th spot then it is Q versus the rest of the bench and by the numbers Q is the right play. 

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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2009, 11:47:54 am »
I orignally was confused by this, but the more I think about it...  They were down 6-0 at the time.  Somebody was going to have to pinch hit in the 9th spot if the 8 hitter got on.  The entire bench was lefty (Blum switch who is horrible against lefties) except for Pudge.  Q sounded pretty lost in his first couple of ABs, but historically he would be a better option against lefties then anybody else off the bench.  If you assume Pudge batting in the 9th spot then it is Q versus the rest of the bench and by the numbers Q is the right play. 

I hear you. However, the issue that I thought caused him not to PH Pudge was the need to keep a backup catcher on the bench--a traditionally viable reason. However, he then pinch hits Pudge with no one on the next inning. I would have brought Pudge up with ducks on the pond. Q looked like shit in his AB's yesterday.
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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2009, 11:48:03 am »
I orignally was confused by this, but the more I think about it...  They were down 6-0 at the time.  Somebody was going to have to pinch hit in the 9th spot if the 8 hitter got on.  The entire bench was lefty (Blum switch who is horrible against lefties) except for Pudge.  Q sounded pretty lost in his first couple of ABs, but historically he would be a better option against lefties then anybody else off the bench.  If you assume Pudge batting in the 9th spot then it is Q versus the rest of the bench and by the numbers Q is the right play. 

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Yet another example as to why SnS shits on talk radio (no offense, Zipp).  Maybe Pudge/Blum is better than Q/Pudge, but at least there is a discernible rationale for Coop's choice.  Whether this actually was Coop's rationale, instead of being guilty of managing while clueless, we'll probably never know.
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