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Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« on: August 06, 2008, 01:17:27 pm »
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Astros lineup

Matsui, 2B
Pence, RF
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Blum, SS
Wigginton, 3B
Erstad, CF
Quintero, C
Backe, RHP (6-10, 4.72)

Cubs lineup

Soriano, LF
Theriot, SS
Lee, 1B
Ramirez, 3B
I'm a sexy, sexy bitch, CF
DeRosa, 2B
Fukudome, RF
Soto, C
Marquis, RHP (6-7, 4.68)
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 01:18:27 pm »
Fuck the Cubs
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 01:21:35 pm »
Anyone need PBP?

Oh, yeah--Fuck the Cubs.
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 01:22:48 pm »
it would be appreciated if you don't mind.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 01:23:03 pm »
Matsui

shows bunt--takes high for ball one, called strike, pops to Ramirez in foul territory
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Re: Top 1st, Astros 0, Cubs 0
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 01:23:47 pm »
Pence

Lazy fly to Fukudome in RF on the FIRST PITCH!!
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Re: Top 1st, Astros 0, Cubs 0
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 01:24:27 pm »
Berkman

called strike, grounds out DeRosa to Lee
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 01:31:20 pm »
Sorry, had to get muffins out of the oven.

Soriano
swinging strike, grounds to Wigginton (bat flies over Wiggy's head) 1 out

Theriot
called strike, swinging strike, lines out to Matsui 2 out

Lee
called strike, called strike, foul, ball, ball, grounds to Backe who barehands and throws him out.  3 out
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 01:33:37 pm »
Sorry, had to get muffins out of the oven.

This is a euphemism that I am not familiar with.
Here are just a few of the key ingredients: dynamite, pole vaulting, laughing gas, choppers - can you see how incredible this is going to be?

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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 01:34:32 pm »
Lee

called strike, ball, ball, ball, swinging strike, grounds out 5-3
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 01:34:51 pm »
This is a euphemism that I am not familiar with.

Banana nut.
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 01:36:02 pm »
Banana nut.

I was trying to make a joke, it may not have been funny.  But I do like banana nut......muffins.
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Re: Top 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 0
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2008, 01:37:48 pm »
Blum

called strike, ball, swinging strike, foul, ball, slow roller down 3B line that turns foul about 10 inches in front of the base, slow chopper to Ramirez who tosses him out
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Re: Top 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 0
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2008, 01:39:16 pm »
Wigginton

called strike, lines to LF, Soriano was coming in, then halfheartedly jumps, ball goes over his head and bounces off the ivy for a DOUBLE.  Piss poor play by Soriano--good for us.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2008, 01:41:54 pm »
Sorry, had to get muffins out of the oven.

I thought that you were breaking out your Kinky Friedman repertoire.
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Re: Top 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 0
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 01:42:14 pm »
Erstad

ball, ball, ball, called strike, foul, grounds to Marquis who tosses to Lee.  3 outs
Wigginton stranded at 2B
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 01:47:35 pm »
Ramirez

foul, ball, ball, ball, lines to RF, Pence gets a crappy jump (surprised??) but catches it
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 01:47:37 pm »
sometimes muffins are just that.  muffins.
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Re: Bottom 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 0
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 01:48:38 pm »
I'm a sexy, sexy bitch

line drive double to RF on the first pitch
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Re: Bottom 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 1
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 01:49:47 pm »
DeRosa

called strike, lines a double to LF, scoring Edmonds

Astros 0, Cubs 1
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Re: Bottom 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 1
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2008, 01:51:02 pm »
Fukudome

ball, ball, called strike, swinging strike, foul, lines it to Pence in RF.  2 outs
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2008, 01:51:52 pm »
I'm a sexy, sexy bitch

line drive double to RF on the first pitch

I thought you were referring to yourself at first, then I realized whom you were referring. 
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Re: Bottom 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 1
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2008, 01:54:13 pm »
Soto

ball, ball, ball, called strike, swinging strike, foul, foul, ball
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Re: Bottom 2nd, Astros 0, Cubs 1
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2008, 01:56:01 pm »
Marquis

foul, foul, pops to Berkman in foul territory

End of 2nd
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 01:56:31 pm »
Girl you thought he was a man
But he was a muffin
He hung around 'till you found
That he didn't know nuthin'
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2008, 01:56:32 pm »
I thought you were referring to yourself at first, then I realized whom you were referring. 

I would never refer to myself as a bitch.
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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2008, 01:59:39 pm »
Quintero, Backe and Matsui due up against Marquis in the third.

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foul bunt, lines to RF, Fukudome was coming in, then had to go back and snowcones the ball.  Dadgumit. 1 out
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Re: Top 3rd, Astros 0, Cubs 1
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2008, 02:02:16 pm »
Backe

called strike, ball, called strike, ball, foul, ball, grounds out 5-3
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2008, 02:03:29 pm »
Ahhhhh hahahahahaha

Fuck the sexy bitch.
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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2008, 02:03:29 pm »
LMAO at Anaheim Jimmy.
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2008, 02:03:39 pm »
Get a hit Matsui.
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2008, 02:03:51 pm »
You sexy backhanded bitch
Drinking for two.

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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2008, 02:04:04 pm »
I would never refer to myself as a bitch.

I would.

Just kidding.
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Re: Top 3rd, Astros 0, Cubs 1
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2008, 02:04:17 pm »
Matsui

called strike, ball, fly ball to Edmonds who tries to make an ESPN highlight play, turns his back to the ball, then tries to underhand/backhand it, misses, ball bounces over the wall for a ground-rule DOUBLE

Edmonds really looked stoopid.
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2008, 02:04:23 pm »
LMAO at Anaheim Jimmy.

That was not a sexy sexy effort there...
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2008, 02:05:10 pm »
 LMAO at Edmonds.   Shades chillin on hat, loses it in the sun.

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2008, 02:05:52 pm »
LMAO at Edmonds.  

Laugh less, post faster.
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2008, 02:06:45 pm »
Pence

ball, ball, ball, called strike, called strike, ball
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2008, 02:07:12 pm »
Nice job Hunter, layed off that slider.
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2008, 02:08:20 pm »
Now would be a great time Puma....
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2008, 02:09:48 pm »
PUMA!
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2008, 02:10:00 pm »
FURRIES!
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Re: Top 3rd, Astros 1, Cubs 1
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2008, 02:10:25 pm »
Pence at 1B, Matsui at 2B for Berkman

foul, ball, called strike (? that pitch was high and basically the same spot as the one before it that was called a ball), ball, smacks a single to RF, Matsui scores, Pence to 3rd, (throw goes to 3rd)

Astros 1, Cubs 1
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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:04 pm »
Get a hit Lee.
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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:24 pm »
Now would be a great time Lee?
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« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:26 pm »
KA-BONG, BABY!!

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« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:30 pm »
KABONG!!!!!
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« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:33 pm »
The Horse!
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« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:38 pm »
Lee

called strike, called strike, 3 RUN HOMERUN FOR EL CABALLO

Astros 4, Cubs 1
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« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2008, 02:11:43 pm »
ka-BONG!
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« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2008, 02:12:09 pm »
who knew all you had to do was ask?
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Re: Top 3rd, Astros 4, Cubs 1
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2008, 02:12:24 pm »
Blum

grounds to Lee who tosses to Marquis. 3 outs
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2008, 02:13:19 pm »
  That half inning is in my top 5 for 2008.  Edmonds error.  Marquis doubling up on cock shot fastballs 0-1, 0-2,  and paying with a 3 run bomb.

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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2008, 02:14:00 pm »
When I saw the pitch on Gameday I said that's gotta be a homerun.

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« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2008, 02:17:00 pm »
Soriano

ball, ball, called strike, (pitchers are getting the outside call on RH batters), ball, foul, foul, pops a high fly to shallow RF, caught by Matsui. 1 out
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Re: Bottom 3rd, Astros 4, Cubs 1
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2008, 02:18:00 pm »
Theriot

called strike, ground ball single to RF

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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2008, 02:18:45 pm »
 That half inning is in my top 5 for 2008.  Edmonds error.  Marquis doubling up on cock shot fastballs 0-1, 0-2,  and paying with a 3 run bomb.


Did they give him an "E" on the play?  Yahoo boxscore isn't showing it.

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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2008, 02:20:03 pm »
Get an out Lee.
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2008, 02:20:18 pm »
Did they give him an "E" on the play?  Yahoo boxscore isn't showing it.

scored a ground rule double
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Re: Gettin' out of Wrigley Wednesday 8/6/08
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2008, 02:20:54 pm »
I did not need to see that.

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« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2008, 02:26:05 pm »
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« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2008, 02:29:26 pm »
see what?

I was looking away, but heard JD reference the "hidden ball trick."

And I did NOT need to see THAT.  Way to pitch with the lead, Brandon.  Enjoy your attempts to make the bullpen next year.
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« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2008, 02:29:48 pm »
Well, that happened.
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« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2008, 02:30:07 pm »
see what?

well, i didn't need to see 2 2-out walks followed by a grand slam.  Fuck.

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« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2008, 02:30:42 pm »
  Pretty disgusting pitching by Backe.

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« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2008, 02:31:29 pm »
well, i didn't need to see 2 2-out walks followed by a grand slam.  Fuck.

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« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2008, 02:31:37 pm »
Again, I love that Backe is a "gamer", but if he is in next year's rotation, then something went very wrong in the offseason.
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« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2008, 02:33:01 pm »
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« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2008, 02:33:27 pm »
Like Wandy yesterday, Backe's just gonna have to suck as long as he can.
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« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2008, 02:34:02 pm »
Like Wandy yesterday, Backe's just gonna have to suck as long as he can.

They're in the right city for it.
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« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2008, 02:34:12 pm »
Again, I love that Backe is a "gamer", but if he is in next year's rotation, then something went very wrong in the offseason.

Yessir.  Backe was a nice story.  I loved the fact that he grew up an Astros fan.  But he is a terrible pitcher.


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« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2008, 02:34:37 pm »
Batting practice.

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Again, I love that Backe is a "gamer", but if he is in next year's rotation, then something went very wrong in the offseason.

  Those playoff performances by Backe and Burke have ended up being pretty costly for the Astros.

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« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2008, 02:34:47 pm »
wow..this got really bad, really fast

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« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2008, 02:35:04 pm »
someone take Backe out and shoot him. nibbling with slider after slider with a 3 run lead and two out. that was piss poor pitching after getting staked to a lead.
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« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2008, 02:35:36 pm »
Batting practice.

9-4 Cubs on the Soriano pose home run.

8 runs in one inning?????????
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« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2008, 02:35:44 pm »
wow..this got really bad, really fast

I mean, that escalated quickly, didn't it?

I saw a pitcher on fire.
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« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2008, 02:36:43 pm »
Aaarrrgghgghghgg.  This just sucks.

15 minutes ago, I'm thinking that the Astros can get out of Chicago with a series win.  And fucking Backe just serves up hit after hit after hit.  And still, he's in the game.
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« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2008, 02:36:48 pm »
I'm working on a headache here.

At least there's 6 more times to bat.
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« Reply #79 on: August 06, 2008, 02:36:50 pm »
8 runs in one inning?????????
All with two outs...

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« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2008, 02:37:16 pm »
8 two out runs...impressive.
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« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2008, 02:37:25 pm »
Aaarrrgghgghghgg.  This just sucks.

15 minutes ago, I'm thinking that the Astros can get out of Chicago with a series win.  And fucking Backe just serves up hit after hit after hit.  And still, he's in the game.

The bullpen is toast.
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« Reply #82 on: August 06, 2008, 02:37:47 pm »
8 two out runs...impressive.

Less so if you could see the pus that Backe is throwing.
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« Reply #83 on: August 06, 2008, 02:38:15 pm »
I mean, that escalated quickly, didn't it?

I saw a pitcher on fire.

I think soriano killed someone with a trident.
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He definitely looked more concerned with keeping his own line as clean as possible than doing what was best for the team in that situation.   Runs are going to be scored in a game like this.   You just can't go nibbling, walk people, than completely lose your shit when they make you pay for it.   Horrible pitching.

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« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2008, 02:39:05 pm »
quick recap.

- A. Soriano popped out to shallow right 
- R. Theriot singled to right 
- D. Lee flied out to deep right 
- A. Ramirez walked, R. Theriot to second 
- J. Edmonds walked, R. Theriot to third, A. Ramirez to second 
- M. DeRosa homered to deep center, J. Edmonds, A. Ramirez and R. Theriot scored 
- K. Fukudome doubled to right 
- G. Soto intentionally walked 
- J. Marquis doubled to deep right, K. Fukudome scored, G. Soto to third 
- A. Soriano homered to deep left, J. Marquis and G. Soto scored 
- R. Theriot grounded out to pitcher 
- End of Inning (8 Runs, 5 Hits, 0 Errors) 


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« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2008, 02:39:43 pm »
i realize i'm old and crabby, but this would be Backe's last start for awhile if i was calling the shots. he pitched like a fucking idiot. Runelvys would/will do better.
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« Reply #87 on: August 06, 2008, 02:40:12 pm »
For the record... Coop's hands are pretty tied, but that IBB to Soto was a big vote of no confidence in Backe.
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« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2008, 02:40:33 pm »
quick recap.

- A. Soriano popped out to shallow right 
- R. Theriot singled to right 
- D. Lee flied out to deep right 
- A. Ramirez walked, R. Theriot to second 
- J. Edmonds walked, R. Theriot to third, A. Ramirez to second 
- M. DeRosa homered to deep center, J. Edmonds, A. Ramirez and R. Theriot scored 
- K. Fukudome doubled to right 
- G. Soto intentionally walked 
- J. Marquis doubled to deep right, K. Fukudome scored, G. Soto to third 
- A. Soriano homered to deep left, J. Marquis and G. Soto scored 
- R. Theriot grounded out to pitcher 
- End of Inning (8 Runs, 5 Hits, 0 Errors) 


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« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2008, 02:40:39 pm »
Just when you think this team might go on a run, Backe happens.

I was thinking about watching the replay later tonight, if it was televised.  Guess I'll go meet friends who are doing karoke instead.
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« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2008, 02:41:59 pm »
Get an out Lee.
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« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2008, 02:43:29 pm »
OMG has ANY other Astros team given up more homeruns than this one?  Sickening.

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i realize i'm old and crabby, but this would be Backe's last start for awhile if i was calling the shots. he pitched like a fucking idiot. Runelvys would/will do better.

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« Reply #93 on: August 06, 2008, 02:43:38 pm »
If only you had known to use your magical powers on the next batter

i didn't realize he had made the out.  I was reading the Game Zone, nothing else.
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« Reply #94 on: August 06, 2008, 02:44:54 pm »
Just when you think this team might go on a run, Backe happens.

After Caballo's HR yesterday, I was actually starting to believe there might be a little 2006 magic in this team.

That was a nice 15 minutes while it lasted.
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« Reply #95 on: August 06, 2008, 02:45:05 pm »
Who does today's recap?
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« Reply #96 on: August 06, 2008, 02:45:09 pm »
If only you had known to use your magical powers on the next batter

they cannot make outs when Backe walks them.

unfuckingbelievable that a major league VETERAN pitcher pitches scared like he did. throw the fucking ball over the fucking plate with something on it.
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« Reply #97 on: August 06, 2008, 02:45:39 pm »
i didn't realize he had made the out.  I was reading the Game Zone, nothing else.
As far as I could tell, you made Lee get the out.  Unfortunately, the wheels came off right after that.

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« Reply #98 on: August 06, 2008, 02:46:05 pm »
Backe's batting with 2 on and 1 out?

I guess the bullpen really must screwed.
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« Reply #99 on: August 06, 2008, 02:46:06 pm »
Astros score a lot more runs.
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Woody, 2007: 8-15, 5.27 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, 101 K, 53 BB
Backe, 2008 (thru the last inning): 6-10, 5.22 ERA, 1.61 WHIP, 100 K, 62 BB

Also, only 3 pitchers in all of MLB have a worse WHIP than this, and 1 of those (Livan) has been DFA'ed.
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« Reply #101 on: August 06, 2008, 02:47:10 pm »
Backe's batting with 2 on and 1 out?

I guess the bullpen really must screwed.

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« Reply #102 on: August 06, 2008, 02:48:28 pm »
C'mon, Thunder Pants.
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« Reply #103 on: August 06, 2008, 02:48:41 pm »
Astros score a lot more runs.
Attagirl...I assume your power only works once a half-inning.

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« Reply #104 on: August 06, 2008, 02:49:14 pm »
Attagirl...I assume your power only works once a half-inning.

I don't know if the BBGs have enough power to overcome Backe.  I pray they do.
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« Reply #105 on: August 06, 2008, 02:49:36 pm »
Weak pop to CF on an 0-2 pitch.  Nice AB, Franchise.
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« Reply #106 on: August 06, 2008, 02:50:48 pm »
  Pence flies out to center.    It would have brought up an interesting spot if he would have drove in a few there.   Backe being yanked after hitting for himself the half inning prior.

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« Reply #107 on: August 06, 2008, 02:54:31 pm »
  You know you are a nibbling ass pitcher when you are complaining about Foster's zone.

In other news,  Opposition hitting .290 off Backe now.   
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« Reply #108 on: August 06, 2008, 02:55:08 pm »
Also, only 3 pitchers in all of MLB have a worse WHIP than this, and 1 of those (Livan) has been DFA'ed.

Wasn't there talk before the season about the Astros acquiring Livan? Or was that just some 'some people say' shit off OWA?
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Sorry guys and gals.  My internet connection crapped out and then the Cubs started spanking Backe. 
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« Reply #110 on: August 06, 2008, 02:59:01 pm »
"Spanking" would desribes something possibly harmless.  They're waterboarding Backe.
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« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2008, 02:59:16 pm »
Sorry guys and gals.  My internet connection crapped out and then the Cubs started spanking Backe. 

Actually blame me. I hadn't been watching, then saw the 4-1 score, and turned it on just as he gave up the walk to Ramirez.

Same things yesterday... I turned it off when it was 6-1, saw the score go 7-6 on GD and then turned it back on for the 5 run shit sandwich.
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« Reply #112 on: August 06, 2008, 02:59:45 pm »
Cubs announcers: "You just get the feeling that this is not going to end well for Brandon Backe."

REALLY, do you think?

Another nice job by Q to settle down an ump getting ready to run a pitcher (although mighta been counter productive in this situation...).
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« Reply #113 on: August 06, 2008, 02:59:50 pm »
Actually blame me. I hadn't been watching, then saw the 4-1 score, and turned it on just as he gave up the walk to Ramirez.

Same things yesterday... I turned it off when it was 6-1, saw the score go 7-6 on GD and then turned it back on for the 5 run shit sandwich.

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« Reply #114 on: August 06, 2008, 03:00:26 pm »
"Spanking" would desribes something possibly harmless.  They're waterboarding Backe.

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« Reply #115 on: August 06, 2008, 03:00:56 pm »
The only worse thing than a bad game is a SLOW bad game.
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« Reply #116 on: August 06, 2008, 03:01:24 pm »
Is anyone up in the pen?

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« Reply #117 on: August 06, 2008, 03:01:57 pm »
Is anyone up in the pen?

Byrdak just got up.
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« Reply #118 on: August 06, 2008, 03:01:58 pm »
"Spanking" would desribes something possibly harmless.  They're waterboarding Backe.

I got 4 boys in my house.  Spanking is not "harmless" to them.
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« Reply #119 on: August 06, 2008, 03:02:06 pm »
Thank goodness it was your fault.  i was thinking it was mine for doing the same.

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« Reply #120 on: August 06, 2008, 03:02:44 pm »
Don't look into the fucking dugout, Backe.  This is your mess, you clean it up.
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« Reply #121 on: August 06, 2008, 03:02:59 pm »
Well, its off now for good. So I expect a 13-12 Houston win.

So, you don't think Brandon is done giving up runs?  I don't either, bases loaded, one out.
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« Reply #122 on: August 06, 2008, 03:03:20 pm »
Why is Coop leaving Backe in??

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« Reply #123 on: August 06, 2008, 03:03:25 pm »
Derrick Lee walked

Ramirez singled. Lee to 2B.

Edmonds flied out to CF.  Lee to third.

DeRosa walks. Bases loaded 1 out.

Fukudome singles. Lee scores  Astros 4, Cubs 10

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« Reply #124 on: August 06, 2008, 03:03:29 pm »
Never mind, Byrdak on in a bases loaded, 4th-inning, 6-run deficit situation.
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« Reply #125 on: August 06, 2008, 03:04:04 pm »
Why is Coop leaving Backe in??

Because there is only one out in the fourth inning?

The bullpen is overused?

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« Reply #126 on: August 06, 2008, 03:04:09 pm »
So, you don't think Brandon is done giving up runs?  I don't either, bases loaded, one out.

Since there is absolutely no one giving any type of update here in the GZ, I have absolutely no idea.

Its probably better that way.

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« Reply #127 on: August 06, 2008, 03:05:37 pm »
  Pence flies out to center.    It would have brought up an interesting spot if he would have drove in a few there.   Backe being yanked after hitting for himself the half inning prior.

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« Reply #128 on: August 06, 2008, 03:06:48 pm »
Byrdak in with the bases loaded, 1 out.

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« Reply #129 on: August 06, 2008, 03:07:09 pm »
The Astros just gotta keep working at it.  It can be done.  They can win this thing.  You gotta believe.  You just gotta believe.
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« Reply #130 on: August 06, 2008, 03:08:09 pm »
Marquis takes the first pitch to Lee in LF.  3 outs.
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« Reply #131 on: August 06, 2008, 03:08:41 pm »
The Astros just gotta keep working at it.  It can be done.  They can win this thing.  You gotta believe.  You just gotta believe.

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« Reply #132 on: August 06, 2008, 03:08:43 pm »
Close the book on Backe's ERA at 5.35.
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« Reply #133 on: August 06, 2008, 03:11:33 pm »
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« Reply #134 on: August 06, 2008, 03:13:03 pm »
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« Reply #136 on: August 06, 2008, 03:13:56 pm »
The Astros just gotta keep working at it.  It can be done.  They can win this thing.  You gotta believe.  You just gotta believe.

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« Reply #137 on: August 06, 2008, 03:14:41 pm »
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« Reply #138 on: August 06, 2008, 03:14:44 pm »
Still had a .431 OBP for July.  Teams starting daring Lee to beat them.  The .329 SLG, however, left a lot to be desired.
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« Reply #139 on: August 06, 2008, 03:14:51 pm »
the hell of it is that this series could have been swept.
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« Reply #140 on: August 06, 2008, 03:15:49 pm »
Woulda, coulda, shoulda... the hallmarks of a bad team.
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« Reply #141 on: August 06, 2008, 03:16:18 pm »
starting? check out the month of July.

Well, now his swings are just looking more desperate to me.  I agree that he did poorly in July, but now (to me) his facial expressions at the plate look more like Towles than Berkman.
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« Reply #142 on: August 06, 2008, 03:16:38 pm »
Still had a .431 OBP for July.  Teams starting daring Lee to beat them.  The .329 SLG, however, left a lot to be desired.

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« Reply #143 on: August 06, 2008, 03:17:28 pm »
Soriano

Singles to CF on the first pitch
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« Reply #144 on: August 06, 2008, 03:18:10 pm »
Not doubting that he was cold, but I do think pitchers finally started to say "to hell with this... I'll let someone else try to beat me."

Also, he's gone ice cold from the right side.
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« Reply #145 on: August 06, 2008, 03:18:13 pm »
Well, now his swings are just looking more desperate to me.  I agree that he did poorly in July, but now (to me) his facial expressions at the plate look more like Towles than Berkman.

that did not just happen. it follows a homerless streak that goes back to June.
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« Reply #146 on: August 06, 2008, 03:18:54 pm »
fuck OBP for Berkman. no HRs. not much run production.

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« Reply #147 on: August 06, 2008, 03:19:25 pm »
Not doubting that he was cold, but I do think pitchers finally started to say "to hell with this... I'll let someone else try to beat me."

Also, he's gone ice cold from the right side.

during the games i have watched, he has gotten lots of hittable pitches, but he does not hit them.
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« Reply #148 on: August 06, 2008, 03:20:05 pm »
Maybe I'm just imagining the nibbling because he's missing everthing so badly.
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« Reply #149 on: August 06, 2008, 03:21:12 pm »
Theriot

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« Reply #150 on: August 06, 2008, 03:22:53 pm »
Lee

ball, called strike, called strike, foul, ball, swinging K  2 outs

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Ramirez

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Wigginton

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Erstad

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« Reply #155 on: August 06, 2008, 03:30:44 pm »
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He is almost comical when he swings.
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« Reply #156 on: August 06, 2008, 03:30:52 pm »
i do believe that you are nutso.

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« Reply #157 on: August 06, 2008, 03:31:31 pm »
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« Reply #158 on: August 06, 2008, 03:32:46 pm »
Jane and her PBP reminds me of the band on the Titanic still playing while the ship slipped beneath the waves.

hey--there are people at work that might want to know.....blub.....blub.....bluuuuubb......................
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Fukudome

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« Reply #162 on: August 06, 2008, 03:39:31 pm »
Matsui, Pence, Berkman due up

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« Reply #163 on: August 06, 2008, 03:44:18 pm »
WTF - you are NEVER allowed to double-switch after you go to the mound!!

Umpires have given up on the game as much as the Astros.
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« Reply #164 on: August 06, 2008, 03:46:49 pm »
WTF - you are NEVER allowed to double-switch after you go to the mound!!

Umpires have given up on the game as much as the Astros.

I've seen Pinella do that twice this year.
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« Reply #165 on: August 06, 2008, 03:48:53 pm »
i hate to belabor the point, but my irritation at Backe knows no bounds. he threw so many sliders it looked like the LL WS. he pitched terrified.
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« Reply #166 on: August 06, 2008, 03:58:04 pm »
On the flip side - major props to Byrdax for manning up and taking this on his back.
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« Reply #167 on: August 06, 2008, 03:59:43 pm »
I didn't realize Brydak had pitched 3.1 innings so far.  Backe owes him a paycheck for doing what he should have.
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« Reply #168 on: August 06, 2008, 04:05:05 pm »
On the flip side - major props to Byrdax for manning up and taking this on his back.

absolutely. he's a keeper looking to '09 for me.

do not think i'm nuts, but i still think this team can be good. add Sheets to Roy, more improvement from Wandy, another solid season from Moehler, and the rotation is much better. i think Hernandez can help, but he may not think he'll get a chance.

pen: Sampson, Wright, Brocail, Hawkins (if he continues to do well), Byrdak, Geary

Paulino needs to get well and tougher. what to do about Valverde and one more starter and Backe are big questions.

i would not break up the offense just yet. someone competent needs to work with Bourn and keep Cooper away from him.

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« Reply #169 on: August 06, 2008, 04:08:48 pm »
absolutely. he's a keeper looking to '09 for me.

do not think i'm nuts, but i still think this team can be good. add Sheets to Roy, more improvement from Wandy, another solid season from Moehler, and the rotation is much better. i think Hernandez can help, but he may not think he'll get a chance.

pen: Sampson, Wright, Brocail, Hawkins (if he continues to do well), Byrdak, Geary

Paulino needs to get well and tougher. what to do about Valvverde and one more starter and Backe are big questions.

i would not break up the offense just yet. someone competent needs to work with Bourn and keep Cooper away from him.



I don't think you are nuts at all.  I totally agree about Bourn.  I don't expect Moehler of 2008 to be Moehler of 2009, but you never know.

I think one area of concern is catcher though.  Do they sign Ausmus again to sit the bench like this season?  Keep him and Quintero as the catchers? 

I wouldn't mind trading Pence for a good starter.
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« Reply #170 on: August 06, 2008, 04:10:15 pm »
I didn't realize Brydak had pitched 3.1 innings so far.  Backe owes him a paycheck for doing what he should have.

3.2 innings, 48 pitches.  Hell of a job!
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« Reply #171 on: August 06, 2008, 04:10:46 pm »
Is he scheduled to start in 5 days?
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« Reply #172 on: August 06, 2008, 04:12:17 pm »
How would Backe fare in the pen next year?
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« Reply #173 on: August 06, 2008, 04:13:50 pm »
How would Backe fare in the pen next year?

the Astros or someone else's?
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« Reply #174 on: August 06, 2008, 04:18:30 pm »
How would Backe fare in the pen next year?

to me, Backe and Sampson are the same pitcher, but Sampson is better. do they need both in that role?

Backe can pitch great games. he has proved that. why does he not appear to learn anything from them?
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« Reply #175 on: August 06, 2008, 04:20:56 pm »
to me, Backe and Sampson are the same pitcher, but Sampson is better. do they need both in that role?

Backe can pitch great games. he has proved that. why does he not appear to learn anything from them?

I agree about Sampson being better.  Wouldn't be surprised if Backe were gone.
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« Reply #176 on: August 06, 2008, 04:22:44 pm »
I'm so glad I don't get as upset with losses anymore.

Good job Byrdak and Wiggington.
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« Reply #177 on: August 06, 2008, 04:25:39 pm »
i just watched the replay of Marquis' double. once again, Pence let a catchable fly ball go over his head to land at the base of the wall. it was identical to the key hit yesterday.
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« Reply #178 on: August 06, 2008, 04:30:25 pm »
to me, Backe and Sampson are the same pitcher, but Sampson is better. do they need both in that role?

Sampson has been very effective in coming into the game in critical 5-7 inning situations and pitching multiple effective innings this year.  Would it be beneficial to have 2 such relievers in the pen next year?  I'd think so.

Backe can pitch great games. he has proved that. why does he not appear to learn anything from them?

No idea, but at times this year I've wondered if he doesn't have some kind of attention deficit problem. 

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« Reply #179 on: August 06, 2008, 04:32:21 pm »
i just watched the replay of Marquis' double. once again, Pence let a catchable fly ball go over his head to land at the base of the wall. it was identical to the key hit yesterday.

He's a LF, but we already have on of those.

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« Reply #180 on: August 06, 2008, 04:32:47 pm »
Sampson can routinely induce grounders.  Backe can't.
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« Reply #181 on: August 06, 2008, 04:35:20 pm »
Sampson has been very effective in coming into the game in critical 5-7 inning situations and pitching multiple effective innings this year.  Would it be beneficial to have 2 such relievers in the pen next year?  I'd think so.

No idea, but at times this year I've wondered if he doesn't have some kind of attention deficit problem. 

1. i think two of that type may be one too many. dunno, and you need at least two LHP, imo. you also need shut down types in the 7th and 8th. btw, Hawkins has been pretty damn good.

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« Reply #182 on: August 06, 2008, 04:43:55 pm »
Sampson can routinely induce grounders.  Backe can't.

Backe has proven to be a very effective pitcher at times.  My question really is are we more likely to see the 'effective' Backe in a 7th/8th inning role, or would we simply observe more of the same (i.e. wildly inconsistent from game-to-game) from him?
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« Reply #183 on: August 06, 2008, 04:47:08 pm »
Backe has proven to be a very effective pitcher at times.  My question really is are we more likely to see the 'effective' Backe in a 7th/8th inning role, or would we simply observe more of the same (i.e. wildly inconsistent from game-to-game) from him?

If it were the case that he consistently comes out strong and then gets clocked in the middle innings, I'd say that he might still have a future as a reliever. But he's completely inconsistent, or if there's any consistency, it's that his early innings suck and he gets better as he goes along (if he survives). Neither of those are traits that are particularly endearing for a reliever.
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« Reply #184 on: August 06, 2008, 04:49:07 pm »
I don't see Backe as a reliever.
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« Reply #185 on: August 06, 2008, 04:49:57 pm »
Backe has proven to be a very effective pitcher at times.  My question really is are we more likely to see the 'effective' Backe in a 7th/8th inning role, or would we simply observe more of the same (i.e. wildly inconsistent from game-to-game) from him?

He's very consistent.  24 starts.  In ONLY 6 of them he did not give up a HR.  In fact, he had a 13 game streak where he gave up at least 1 HR.  Can't get more consistent than that.  Too bad it is the wrong kind of consistent.
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« Reply #186 on: August 06, 2008, 04:50:53 pm »
HRs do not necessarily beat you. it is what precedes them.
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« Reply #187 on: August 06, 2008, 04:52:15 pm »
HRs do not necessarily beat you. it is what precedes them.

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« Reply #188 on: August 06, 2008, 04:54:58 pm »
HRs do not necessarily beat you. it is what precedes them.

Granted.

However, he has only gone back-to-back games ONCE in 24 starts without giving up one.  That's poor.
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« Reply #189 on: August 06, 2008, 04:56:38 pm »
Granted.

However, he has only gone back-to-back games ONCE in 24 starts without giving up one.  That's poor.

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« Reply #190 on: August 06, 2008, 04:56:56 pm »
I don't see Backe as a reliever.



As a starter he  has been terrible in the first inning. That will not work coming out of the pen.

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« Reply #191 on: August 06, 2008, 05:12:59 pm »
As a starter he  has been terrible in the first inning. That will not work coming out of the pen.

Although I generally understand some of the nuances of being a starter vs. reliever, my level of understanding is not such that I can look at a pitchers performances and say that he'd be an effective reliever or he'd suck ass.

Backe, as a starting pitcher, comes in to a game with a plan (I'd presume anyway) to pitch through a lineup 3 times.  Although I'm not claiming any actual knowledge on the subject, I'd imagine this means that he's not coming in and blowing through his entire repertoire of pitches the first time (or two) through the lineup.  However, the goal of a reliever is often to come in and get hitters out for an inning, maybe two - there is no 'worrying' about trying to be able to change things up for those same hitters later.

Thus my question (not out of pure ignorance, though likely close) is whether or not having to come in and face a handful of batters in an important situation would bring out the 'good pitcher' in Backe, or are we likely to observe more and the same.

You're correct, based upon his 1st inning numbers that'd seem to be a VERY stupid idea.  However, if the situation is changed and he is coming in as a reliever, does that make any difference?  I've no idea and am curious.
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« Reply #192 on: August 06, 2008, 05:15:10 pm »
Although I generally understand some of the nuances of being a starter vs. reliever, my level of understanding is not such that I can look at a pitchers performances and say that he'd be an effective reliever or he'd suck ass.

Backe, as a starting pitcher, comes in to a game with a plan (I'd presume anyway) to pitch through a lineup 3 times.  Although I'm not claiming any actual knowledge on the subject, I'd imagine this means that he's not coming in and blowing through his entire repertoire of pitches the first time (or two) through the lineup.  However, the goal of a reliever is often to come in and get hitters out for an inning, maybe two - there is no 'worrying' about trying to be able to change things up for those same hitters later.

Thus my question (not out of pure ignorance, though likely close) is whether or not having to come in and face a handful of batters in an important situation would bring out the 'good pitcher' in Backe, or are we likely to observe more and the same.

You're correct, based upon his 1st inning numbers that'd seem to be a VERY stupid idea.  However, if the situation is changed and he is coming in as a reliever, does that make any difference?  I've no idea and am curious.

i agree that it MAY make him more focused, and it SHOULD eliminate nibbling. that has been my hope for Matt Belisle in Louisville too.
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« Reply #193 on: August 06, 2008, 05:17:59 pm »
Yes, but a 4-1 lead SHOULD eliminate nibbling too.
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« Reply #194 on: August 06, 2008, 05:20:07 pm »
Yes, but a 4-1 lead SHOULD eliminate nibbling too.

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« Reply #195 on: August 06, 2008, 07:53:24 pm »
to me, Backe and Sampson are the same pitcher, but Sampson is better. do they need both in that role?

Backe can pitch great games. he has proved that. why does he not appear to learn anything from them?

Didn't Backe spout off about learning a lot from Clemens while he was an Astro?   It sure doesn't look like he remembers any of it if in fact he did at one point.

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