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Oswalt to the DL
« on: July 19, 2008, 05:07:37 pm »
Chron.com is reporting that Oswalt has been placed on the 15 day DL.  LINK.   

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Astros ace righthander Roy Oswalt was put on the 15-day disabled list today with a left hip abductor strain, which he suffered on June 30 and aggravated on July 11.  ***  After talking to [Labossiere], we're still hopeful that he's going to be able to make his start on the 28th, which would be the first day that he'll be eligible to come off the list.  "Hopeful is the key word there. We won't know obviously. It will be dictated on how he feels."

Hernandez will start Monday and Cassel will likely pitch Tuesday.
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Re: Oswalt to the DL
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2008, 06:30:15 pm »
I'm absolutely shocked. Did anyone see this coming?

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2008, 08:35:46 pm »
I think Drayton should pay whatever amount of money Roy's left hip abductor is demanding.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2008, 08:56:05 pm »
I think Drayton should pay whatever amount of money Roy's left hip abductor is demanding.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2008, 08:58:28 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 09:09:57 pm »
Nice.

Could've also gone with the HHGTTG reset "He so unhip his legs should fall off."
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 09:33:37 pm »
Coop says Roy is 100%
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2008, 08:59:49 am »
Coop says Roy is 100%

So they DLed him just for shits and giggles?  Or is he calling Roy a liar?  Or the Astros' doctors?

Maybe Ed Wade just REALLY wants to see what Jack Cassel can do.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2008, 09:16:01 am »
Sarc meter, Zippster. Check it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2008, 02:32:57 pm »
Sarc meter, Zippster. Check it.

Apparently, every comment being attributed to Coop must be taken at face value these days.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 11:01:55 am »
Maybe Ed Wade just REALLY wants to see what Jack Cassel can do.

Or, maybe, after his celebrated ass-whipping at the hands of Chacon, Wade is spoiling for a chance to redeem himself in the Astros' dining room/mixed martial arts league.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 01:10:52 pm »
Will Carroll at BP, submitted without comment:

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What the Astros are saying and what the medical information tells us about Oswalt are two different things. Oswalt was responsible for trying to pitch through what was thought to be just a mild hip strain, but beyond this muscle injury, Oswalt also has a disc problem in his lower back that's causing some radiating pain down into his leg. Cecil Cooper continues to give blank quotes about Oswalt getting on the mound, but this one is going to take longer than most are saying. Oswalt always pitches—and pitches well—through injury, but when he's shut down, that means that it's serious enough that the medical staff is, as one put it, "blocking the exits." Look for Oswalt to push to come back early, and with the Astros insisting that they're not out of the race, they'll probably let him. Considering how bad he looked in his last one-inning stint, that's not going to be pretty.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 01:49:00 pm »
Sarc meter, Zippster. Check it.

I'm beginning to think that Cooper is dead serious whenever he says anything.

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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 01:49:54 pm »
I'm beginning to think that Cooper is dead serious whenever he says anything.

he did not say it this time, but he did before Roy's last start.
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 02:17:57 pm »
Will Carroll at BP, submitted without comment:

I remember when The Great Billy Spiers dealt with a bad back for most of his career and towards the end, it just wasn't feasible for him to go any more.  Cortizone shots were no longer effective and that is when, sadly, it ended for the Great One.

So when I played ball, I felt a really bad twinge in my lower back one season that I paid no attention to at all.  I simply kept on playing and bearing up to the pain.  I had a good season, but that winter I bent down to pick up a box and my back absolutely gave way.  Doctor said it was a bulging disc and perhaps with treatment it would go away.  If not, he'd have to cut on me (which I was told by friends who had back surgery that it never works to have them cut on you... never!).  I went to a Chiropractor and he was able to give me some recommendations to strengthen my back (by actually strengthening my ab muscles).  He also told me that the disc would always be bad so I had to learn how to recover quickly using several treatment techniques I could do on my own.  Namely, the icing techniques (20 minutes on, 20 minutes off, repeat, rinse, lather).  So he told me I could keep on playing, avoid surgery and just manage my back problems for myself.

I didn't play major league baseball, so what I did was not as intense as what a Roy Oswalt does.  All I know was some seasons I had no problems, others I had to daily get myself ready to roll out of bed without feeling a lot of pain from over extending myself.  It just came and went... a lot.  I finally quit playing the season I just could not maintain any more and it was just miserable to deal with back pain and this bulging disc.  I still refuse to get cut on, but now I just don't over extend myself doing too much in terms of hard physical stuff.  In fact, I don't even do moderate to light physical stuff and my body shows it.

Any way, Oswalt may be in for a world of maintaining from now on and if done right and without any deviation and surgery, he'll be fine most of the time.  Other days, he'll just have to deal with the back going out on him and of course they'll probably go the route of cortizone shots like they did with Spiers (and others).  I never did that, can't afford that sort of stuff.  But management and keeping oneself in shape especially around the ab area will really help a lot.

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2008, 02:36:13 pm »
I remember when The Great Billy Spiers dealt with a bad back for most of his career and towards the end, it just wasn't feasible for him to go any more.  Cortizone shots were no longer effective and that is when, sadly, it ended for the Great One.

So when I played ball, I felt a really bad twinge in my lower back one season that I paid no attention to at all.  I simply kept on playing and bearing up to the pain.  I had a good season, but that winter I bent down to pick up a box and my back absolutely gave way.  Doctor said it was a bulging disc and perhaps with treatment it would go away.  If not, he'd have to cut on me (which I was told by friends who had back surgery that it never works to have them cut on you... never!).  I went to a Chiropractor and he was able to give me some recommendations to strengthen my back (by actually strengthening my ab muscles).  He also told me that the disc would always be bad so I had to learn how to recover quickly using several treatment techniques I could do on my own.  Namely, the icing techniques (20 minutes on, 20 minutes off, repeat, rinse, lather).  So he told me I could keep on playing, avoid surgery and just manage my back problems for myself.

I didn't play major league baseball, so what I did was not as intense as what a Roy Oswalt does.  All I know was some seasons I had no problems, others I had to daily get myself ready to roll out of bed without feeling a lot of pain from over extending myself.  It just came and went... a lot.  I finally quit playing the season I just could not maintain any more and it was just miserable to deal with back pain and this bulging disc.  I still refuse to get cut on, but now I just don't over extend myself doing too much in terms of hard physical stuff.  In fact, I don't even do moderate to light physical stuff and my body shows it.

Any way, Oswalt may be in for a world of maintaining from now on and if done right and without any deviation and surgery, he'll be fine most of the time.  Other days, he'll just have to deal with the back going out on him and of course they'll probably go the route of cortizone shots like they did with Spiers (and others).  I never did that, can't afford that sort of stuff.  But management and keeping oneself in shape especially around the ab area will really help a lot.

i had disk surgery at 52 with absolutely no ill effects. after the rehab the surgeon prescribed (walking, walking and more walking), i was throwing a baseball as well as i did before. your friend gave you bad information.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 02:42:35 pm »
i had disk surgery at 52 with absolutely no ill effects. after the rehab the surgeon prescribed (walking, walking and more walking), i was throwing a baseball as well as i did before. your friend gave you bad information.

I have heard from MANY people (two of which are doctors) that cutting is the last option when it comes to back problems...I think you may be an exception to that general rule rather than Noe getting bad information.  Sounds like tht is great for you, though...quality of life (athletically, at least) I have heard is greatly diminished post back surgery.

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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 02:54:46 pm »
I have heard from MANY people (two of which are doctors) that cutting is the last option when it comes to back problems...I think you may be an exception to that general rule rather than Noe getting bad information.  Sounds like tht is great for you, though...quality of life (athletically, at least) I have heard is greatly diminished post back surgery.

i had laser surgery by a very conservative surgeon. he told me that over 60% of bad disks fix themselves, but it requires total bed rest to see if that will happen. i tried it for 2-3 weeks or more. i could not function without having it. i could not do anything but lay flat.

Noe's friend said it "never works." that simply is not true in this day and age, and my story is not an exception. there is no reason to fear it or to live in pain. my pain was excruciating, and i could not sleep at night.

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 03:39:29 pm »
I have heard from MANY people (two of which are doctors) that cutting is the last option when it comes to back problems...I think you may be an exception to that general rule rather than Noe getting bad information.  Sounds like tht is great for you, though...quality of life (athletically, at least) I have heard is greatly diminished post back surgery.

i just read your post again.

do you ever read what others say or do you just restate your opinion? what you "have heard" is "greatly" bs.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2008, 03:50:06 pm »
I had a diskectomy October 2006.  Before that I tried PT and a cortisone shot.  Nothing worked.  I was in constant pain.  I could not stand up from sitting without laying down first.  After having half my L5-S1 disk removed walking was also prescribed and I have no ill effects.  After 6 weeks my doctor told me I was done and go do whatever and to remember proper lifting techniques.  I can actually play with my kids again.  The miracles of modern medicine.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 03:54:48 pm »
I had a diskectomy October 2006.  Before that I tried PT and a cortisone shot.  Nothing worked.  I was in constant pain.  I could not stand up from sitting without laying down first.  After having half my L5-S1 disk removed walking was also prescribed and I have no ill effects.  After 6 weeks my doctor told me I was done and go do whatever and to remember proper lifting techniques.  I can actually play with my kids again.  The miracles of modern medicine.

i could not sit, drive or walk for anything more that 5 minutes or so. after six weeks of walking as rehab, i could throw a baseball and swing a golf club and do all the normal living things.

back surgery with fusions may have some lasting effects, but the basic operation you and i had is nothing.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 04:02:40 pm »
back surgery with fusions may have some lasting effects, but the basic operation you and i had is nothing.

Agreed.

My son's soccer coach last year had most of his back fused years ago and yet today he can go out on a field run around and kick the ball.  Modern medicine.
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 04:07:57 pm »
My son's soccer coach last year had most of his back fused years ago and yet today he can go out on a field run around and kick the ball.  Modern medicine.

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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 04:54:52 pm »
i had disk surgery at 52 with absolutely no ill effects. after the rehab the surgeon prescribed (walking, walking and more walking), i was throwing a baseball as well as i did before. your friend gave you bad information.

He was a professional futbol player (soccer... no kidding) and it ruined his career to get cut on for a bulging disc in his back.  This was a long time ago though and he was in his prime so they may have better technology when it comes to back surgery.  But back then, it was about never being able to play a game you love if you get cut on.

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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 05:13:33 pm »
The rebuilt him.  Now he's better than before.  Better.  Stronger.  Faster...

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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2008, 05:23:10 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2008, 06:17:08 pm »
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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2008, 07:10:08 pm »
Somewhere, Daft Punk just bleeped and blooped in their grave.

I feared that nobody but Andyzipp would've known what I was talking about, otherwise.
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2008, 09:31:16 am »
I feared that nobody but Andyzipp would've known what I was talking about, otherwise.

I haven't a clue.  I'll ask 'em when they come over to play at my house.
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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2008, 02:00:58 pm »
I was just reading the SI article on Lincecum.  The author talked about a long stride being a severe risk for pitchers.  Namely, hip injuries.

The author said Lincecum's stride was 129% of his height, whereas the avearge stride was 77% to 87% of the pitcher's height.  I don't know where Oswalt fits in, but I generally view him as a long strider. 

I hope this hip abductor and back issues are something Roy can overcome or manage, and not a prelude of things to come.