Author Topic: Astros @ Brewers June 1, 2008 (Read 5744 times)

JaneDoe · « **on:** June 01, 2008, 01:39:45 pm »

This game has disaster written all over it.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:40:19 pm »

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 01:39:45 pm

This game has disaster written all over it.

Chacon with the Oswalt inning.

mihoba · « **Reply #2 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:41:46 pm »

Chacon can't let a bad call get to him like that, and Lance can't assume an out.

4-1 after one, Chacon has thrown 40 pitches after the Brewers batted around.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #3 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:42:02 pm »

Lineups:

Astros
Bourn CF
Loretta 2B
Tejada SS
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Pence RF
Wigginton 3B
Towles C
Chacon P

Brewers
Dillon 2B
Capler CF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
Hart RF
Branyan 3B
Rivera C
Counsell SS
Bush P

Anit · « **Reply #4 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:43:10 pm »

cassel is already warming up in the pen

matadorph · « **Reply #5 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:45:41 pm »

That call was shit. The throw beat Hart. Ten times out of ten the runner is called out in that situation, but the first base ump decided to buck the usual and appease the home fans.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:45:56 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 01, 2008, 01:41:46 pm

Chacon can't let a bad call get to him like that, and Lance can't assume an out.

4-0 after one, Chacon has thrown 40 pitches after the Brewers batted around.

Chacon let his emotions get the best of him. Tejada with a poor play on the slow roller from Hart though.

BTW, 4-1 after one.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #7 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:47:36 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on June 01, 2008, 01:45:56 pm

Chacon let his emotions get the best of him. Tejada with a poor play on the slow roller from Hart though.

BTW, 4-1 after one.

Tejada sits and waits on the slow grounders instead of charging them, imo.

Anit · « **Reply #8 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:49:04 pm »

cheito on deck to pinch hit for chacon, so it looks like hes coming out of the game

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #9 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:52:01 pm »

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 01:47:36 pm

Tejada sits and waits on the slow grounders instead of charging them, imo.

He makes a lot of plays on his heals, Furcal is the worst though. If they field the ball, they both have strong arms to make up for it, usually.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #10 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:52:04 pm »

Cassel comes in to pitch. I'm a little surprised, since the pitcher's spot is up first in the top of the 3rd.

pravata · « **Reply #11 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:52:17 pm »

If Chacon isnt injured, this is a sign of how impatient the Astros are in this losing streak.

matadorph · « **Reply #12 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:54:02 pm »

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 01:39:45 pm

This game has disaster written all over it.

Yeah, because the first base ump spotted the Brew Crew the "a," "s," and "s".

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:54:15 pm »

Quote from: matadorph on June 01, 2008, 01:45:41 pm

That call was shit. The throw beat Hart. Ten times out of ten the runner is called out in that situation, but the first base ump decided to buck the usual and appease the home fans.

The close calls never go your way when your playing bad, or so it seems.

mihoba · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:55:47 pm »

Quote from: pravata on June 01, 2008, 01:52:17 pm

If Chacon isnt injured, this is a sign of how impatient the Astros are in this losing streak.

He stared down the first base ump Fieldin Culbreth walking off the mound. He has to be injured I would think.

mihoba · « **Reply #15 on:** June 01, 2008, 01:58:53 pm »

Dammit Coop, an IBB in the second inning? That is BS!!

JaneDoe · « **Reply #16 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:00:10 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 01, 2008, 01:58:53 pm

Dammit Coop, an IBB in the second inning? That is BS!!

Overmanaging again.

matadorph · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:01:14 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on June 01, 2008, 01:54:15 pm

The close calls never go your way when your playing bad, or so it seems.

I predict a safe call at second for the Brewers on a routine GIDP opportunity where the SS/2B doesn't actually touch the bag but steps close enough to it to get the call 99.999% of the time.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:04:12 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on June 01, 2008, 01:45:56 pm

Chacon let his emotions get the best of him. Tejada with a poor play on the slow roller from Hart though.

BTW, 4-1 after one.

Weren't there bat shards flying all over the place on Hart's roller?

mihoba · « **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:04:36 pm »

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 02:00:10 pm

Overmanaging again.

Coop is pressing more than the players right now.

matadorph · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:05:56 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 01, 2008, 02:04:12 pm

Weren't there bat shards flying all over the place on Hart's roller?

I think the bat slipped out of his hands.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:06:21 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 01, 2008, 02:04:12 pm

Weren't there bat shards flying all over the place on Hart's roller?

More toward Wigginton, though, don't think they were close to Tejada.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:06:45 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 01, 2008, 02:04:12 pm

Weren't there bat shards flying all over the place on Hart's roller?

The barrel didn't even make it past the pitcher's mound, I doubt shards made it all the way out to SS.

matadorph · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:08:14 pm »

Look, Tejada should've charged the ball more, but he still got Hart.

He did his job. The ump didn't do his.

pravata · « **Reply #24 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:08:50 pm »

JD offered the explanation, after IBB Fielder, that because the offense isnt providing runs, Cooper is managing "like it's late". If that's the case, why bat Cassel?

mihoba · « **Reply #25 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:11:10 pm »

Quote from: matadorph on June 01, 2008, 02:08:14 pm

Look, Tejada should've charged the ball more, but he still got Hart.

He did his job. The ump didn't do his.

And Lance assumed he was out, letting Braun score from second on an infield hit.

matadorph · « **Reply #26 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:14:44 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 01, 2008, 02:11:10 pm

And Lance assumed he was out, letting Braun score from second on an infield hit.

I think the ump's call might've been affected by that close pickoff attempt on Braun. Berkman and Chacon weren't happy with the call (even though it was right) and let him know it.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #27 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:17:20 pm »

Quote from: matadorph on June 01, 2008, 02:08:14 pm

Look, Tejada should've charged the ball more, but he still got Hart.

He did his job. The ump didn't do his.

It's still only 1-1 at that point, with 2 on and 2 out. Chacon proceeded to implode after that, he's got to work through the call.

matadorph · « **Reply #28 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:19:29 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on June 01, 2008, 02:17:20 pm

It's still only 1-1 at that point, with 2 on and 2 out. Chacon proceeded to implode after that, he's got to work through the call.

Oh absolutely. I'm just appalled at the call. I thought it was atrocious.

matadorph · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:21:36 pm »

Berkman with another long fly. Damn.

Anit · « **Reply #30 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:30:18 pm »

this is rough

matadorph · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:30:23 pm »

And there it is.

Another Braun HR. 7-1 Brewers. Game over.

FUUUUCK.

matadorph · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:31:30 pm »

Grounder to Berkman, toss to Cassel, who drops the ball. Fielder safe at first.

"When it rains..."

JD took the words out of my mouth.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:31:51 pm »

Hold on to the ball, Cassel.

Anit · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:36:29 pm »

when it pours, it pours even harder?

this is getting tough to watch

JaneDoe · « **Reply #35 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:36:36 pm »

Home Run Derby for the Brewers.

remy · « **Reply #36 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:36:45 pm »

May was officially a mirage.

matadorph · « **Reply #37 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:36:49 pm »

Annnnnd another bomb for the opposing team. Branyan again.

Someone make it end.

mihoba · « **Reply #38 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:37:30 pm »

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 02:31:51 pm

Hold on to the ball, Cassel.

That would certainly keep the Brewers from hitting long balls.

matadorph · « **Reply #39 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:38:53 pm »

In case you've lost track at home, it's 9-1 Brewers.

DID YOU HEAR THAT OTTER?

pravata · « **Reply #40 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:48:24 pm »

This inning is wearing Towles out. Cramp in his leg, something going on with his shoulders.

matadorph · « **Reply #41 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:49:58 pm »

Quote from: pravata on June 01, 2008, 02:48:24 pm

This inning is wearing Towles out. Cramp in his leg, something going on with his shoulders.

Hell, it's wearing me out too.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #42 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:50:58 pm »

Quote from: remy on June 01, 2008, 02:36:45 pm

May was officially a mirage.

Don't agree. This team is capable of a hell of a lot of good stuff on a baseball field (just wish they'd start showing it again).

JaneDoe · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:51:39 pm »

Man, this inning just gets more brutal.

matadorph · « **Reply #44 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:51:54 pm »

Bases loaded walk from Webster. 10-1 Brew.

MRaup · « **Reply #45 on:** June 01, 2008, 02:55:04 pm »

This gamezone is suffering from a severe case of sand-vaginitis.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #46 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:01:38 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 02:55:04 pm

This gamezone is suffering from a severe case of sand-vaginitis.

Would you rather us be freakin Pollyannas? You go ahead and start the "what I saw positive in this game" thread.

MRaup · « **Reply #47 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:04:21 pm »

I was talking more about the crying about the bang bang call at first, but sure... Positives I can think of: The Astros aren't playing the Brewers tomorrow!

Jacksonian · « **Reply #48 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:04:37 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 02:55:04 pm

This gamezone is suffering from a severe case of sand-vaginitis.

Barrett Syndrome.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #49 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:07:18 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 03:04:21 pm

Positives I can think of: The Astros aren't playing the Brewers tomorrow!

Next thing you'll do is guarantee we won't lose tomorrow.

Jacksonian · « **Reply #50 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:07:56 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 03:04:21 pm

I was talking more about the crying about the bang bang call at first, but sure... Positives I can think of: The Astros aren't playing the Brewers tomorrow!

Also, tomorrow is the second in a consecutive string of 5 Monday's off. Too, they get the Pirates in the next three to end the road trip. Every team goes through shit spells.

MRaup · « **Reply #51 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:09:00 pm »

The best the Astros can hope for is to tie with the Oklahoma Offdays tomorrow. The way the offense is going, we probably won't even get a hit.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #52 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:11:38 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 03:09:00 pm

The best the Astros can hope for is to tie with the Oklahoma Offdays tomorrow. The way the offense is going, we probably won't even get a hit.

Nebraska is being no-hit by ORU right now.

Noe · « **Reply #53 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:35:22 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 03:04:21 pm

I was talking more about the crying about the bang bang call at first, but sure... Positives I can think of: The Astros aren't playing the Brewers tomorrow!

Guaranteed: Astros will not lose tomorrow!

mihoba · « **Reply #54 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:39:02 pm »

No injury to Chacon. Wow.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #55 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:40:17 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 01, 2008, 03:04:21 pm

Positives I can think of: The Astros aren't playing the Brewers tomorrow!

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 03:07:18 pm

Next thing you'll do is guarantee we won't lose tomorrow.

Quote from: Noe in Austin on June 01, 2008, 03:35:22 pm

Guaranteed: Astros will not lose tomorrow!

Or Noe will.

matadorph · « **Reply #56 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:41:40 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 01, 2008, 03:39:02 pm

No injury to Chacon. Wow.

Good news.

Of course, wtf Coop?

Noe · « **Reply #57 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:45:47 pm »

Quote from: JaneDoe on June 01, 2008, 03:40:17 pm

Or Noe will.

Yeah, gotta let this one go, this whole series, the last two games versus the Cardinals. If the team is carrying around the previous loses, shame on them. I do think overall Cooper is over-managing and not helping the team. I also cannot believe that the Houston offense is missing hitting meat pitches from very average looking pitchers. And every mistake pitch by Houston pitchers is not missed and every good pitch on the black by Houston pitchers (see: Oswalt, Roy) has been ignored.

Makes for the lousy competition by the Astros. How is it going to turn around? I dunno, but it usually does.

Noe · « **Reply #58 on:** June 01, 2008, 03:50:04 pm »

Quote from: matadorph on June 01, 2008, 03:41:40 pm

Good news.

Of course, wtf Coop?

Over reacting.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #59 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:00:22 pm »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on June 01, 2008, 03:50:04 pm

Over reacting.

Sometimes when I see Coop in the dugout he appears to be so tightly wound that I almost wonder if he isn't about to stroke out.

Anit · « **Reply #60 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:01:57 pm »

brownie just said 6 runs in the last 5 games, thats painful to hear

matadorph · « **Reply #61 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:05:28 pm »

6 RS
28 RA

5 gm losing streak.

Ugh.

Noe · « **Reply #62 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:07:22 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 01, 2008, 04:00:22 pm

Sometimes when I see Coop in the dugout he appears to be so tightly wound that I almost wonder if he isn't about to stroke out.

Just to be clear, none of the losing streak is on Cooper. This is a team funk and the manager can over react when the team is going great and it will have a similar effect: not much.

Noe · « **Reply #63 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:10:23 pm »

BTW - I'm sitting here stunned at how the UofH Coogs are giving away an elimination game. They were up by four, two outs, ninth inning and they proceed to allow four runs to cross, the last one on a passed ball. They played that ninth like they were walking on eggshells, especially the catcher on that passed ball.

Game tied now going into extra innings. That's a shame, this game was all but over before Houston imploded.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #64 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:10:34 pm »

Just to be clear, not blaming Coop, just making an observation.

Noe · « **Reply #65 on:** June 01, 2008, 04:11:38 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 01, 2008, 04:10:34 pm

Just to be clear, not blaming Coop, just making an observation.

Same here. Some people tend to read too much into when things are said in a losing streak as if it were blaming and it's not.

JaneDoe · « **Reply #66 on:** June 01, 2008, 05:20:38 pm »

Quote from: Noe in Austin on June 01, 2008, 04:10:23 pm

BTW - I'm sitting here stunned at how the UofH Coogs are giving away an elimination game. They were up by four, two outs, ninth inning and they proceed to allow four runs to cross, the last one on a passed ball. They played that ninth like they were walking on eggshells, especially the catcher on that passed ball.

Game tied now going into extra innings. That's a shame, this game was all but over before Houston imploded.

Houston won it 14-11 in 11 innings. Too bad they had to go extras. Now they have to turn around and play the Aggies tonight.

Limey · « **Reply #67 on:** June 02, 2008, 09:57:40 am »

Quote from: matadorph on June 01, 2008, 02:31:30 pm

Grounder to Berkman, toss to Cassel, who drops the ball. Fielder safe at first.

"When it rains..."

JD took the words out of my mouth.

That game wasn't "rain", it was a "shower" of the "golden" variety.