Clemens in more hot water?

[Houston]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352804,00.html

[Andyzipp]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352804,00.html

Is there a statute of limitations on statutory rape?  And shouldn't Roidger be able to to score a mistress who's a bit better looking?

[Guinness]

Jeez, I think this would get him in trouble if true--is there a statute of limitations on what sounds like statuatory rape?  Still, the article doesn't say the sex occured at 15...  But, the accuser is trying to rebuild her career, but you don't want to blame the victim if true, but all in all I'd hate to be Roger Clemens right now.  Maybe just have his bank account...

Dang, Andyzipp beat me to the main question...took me too long to write!

[Andyzipp]

Jeez, I think this would get him in trouble if true--is there a statute of limitations on what sounds like statuatory rape?  Still, the article doesn't say the sex occured at 15...  But, the accuser is trying to rebuild her career, but you don't want to blame the victim if true, but all in all I'd hate to be Roger Clemens right now.  Maybe just have his bank account...

Dang, Andyzipp beat me to the main question...took me too long to write!

She was 15 in 1990.  So, if this was true, there was a crime committed 18 years ago.  Other than being making Racket look worse than he already does, is it relevant now?

I have no doubt, however that the NY Daily News could be completely fabricating this entire thing.

[homer]

And shouldn't Roidger be able to to score a mistress who's a bit better looking?

Shouldn't Mindy be able to do better than Racket?

[Andyzipp]

Shouldn't Mindy be able to do better than Racket?

Cash wise...?  That's not a huge community.

[Fredia]

for a media whore i am imagining this is attention he did not seek. if this were the 70s it would be a made for tv movie by next week.. maybe now just on hbo a cross betweeen the beverly hillbillies and the sporanos. (what he will sing if this is all true )

[BudGirl]

Rocketman v. Superman?  who wins?

[HudsonHawk]

Is there a statute of limitations on statutory rape? 

I think that varies from state to state.  Some states the limit would expire when the victim turns a certain age, some it's for some set limit of time, and others I think there is no limit for felony sex crimes. 

[geezerdonk]

Is there a statute of limitations on statutory rape?

It depends on the jurisdiction in which the offense occured.
In Texas, it is ten years from 18th birthday of the victim.
Maybe Roger will receive special recognition from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the child molester's fan club.

[Limey]

Despite the pedophilia, he might still get cheered and clapped in sports arenas, just like this guy does.

[Andyzipp]

Despite the pedophilia, he might still get cheered and clapped in sports arenas, just like this guy does.

I doubt most people in US sports arenas could tell you who Gary Glitter is, much less that he's the person "singing" Rock and Roll, Part 2.  Outside of the NHL is anyone still using this song in arenas in the US?

[Limey]

I doubt most people in US sports arenas could tell you who Gary Glitter is, much less that he's the person "singing" Rock and Roll, Part 2.  Outside of the NHL is anyone still using this song in arenas in the US?

I agree.  I've often considered emailing all the major league teams in all the major league sports to let them know to who they are giving royalties by playing that song.  I'm absolutely certain that they have no idea.

[Andyzipp]

I agree.  I've often considered emailing all the major league teams in all the major league sports to let them know to who they are giving royalties by playing that song.  I'm absolutely certain that they have no idea.

Let them know they could play "Doctorin the Tardis" instead and never miss a beat.

[Limey]

Let them know they could play "Doctorin the Tardis" instead and never miss a beat.

It's Monday morning.  I'm feeling like shit.  And you have to drag that one up from the depths of my Nyquill addled brain.

You sir, are a cad.

[Andyzipp]

It's Monday morning.  I'm feeling like shit.  And you have to drag that one up from the depths of my Nyquill addled brain.

You sir, are a cad.

Take two KLF and a nap.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk

[Limey]

Take two KLF and a nap.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk

I preferred them during their Justified Ancients of Mu Mu phase.

[Andyzipp]

I preferred them during their Justified Ancients of Mu Mu phase.

Ah, yes when the time was 3 am, Eternal.

[Limey]

Ah, yes when the time was 3 am, Eternal.

YouTubedIFY

[kevwun]

Mindy has confirmed the story.  She says the affair started when she was older.  She does admit that the first time she met him was in a bar when she was 15 and she went back to his hotel room later that night.  She claims nothing happened though.  Good job, Racket.  You met a 15 year old in a bar and took her back to your hotel.

[MusicMan]

Mindy has confirmed the story.  She says the affair started when she was older.  She does admit that the first time she met him was in a bar when she was 15 and she went back to his hotel room later that night.  She claims nothing happened though.  Good job, Racket.  You met a 15 year old in a bar and took her back to your hotel.

Source?  Although I'm not sure I want to read those details.

[BudGirl]

I heard it on the radio this morning.

[BudGirl]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3371824

[Ty in Tampa]

I heard it on the radio this morning.

Chron had it too.

[BatGirl]

what a soap opera.
convenient that she's planning a "comeback" at the same time this story comes out.

breaking news:
ballplayers are sometimes unfaithful to their wives!

[Bench]

I love how Emery won't brook Hardin's bullshit. From the Chron story linked above:

"I had nothing to do with this article," Emery said. "I heard about it when they called for comment. For (Hardin) to claim otherwise without any basis is really sort of shocking. But Rusty is a fool, so he will do foolish things or say foolish things."


Rusty and Roger are perfect for each other.

[Astroholic]

breaking news:
ballplayers are sometimes unfaithful to their wives!

Sure they are, but when they lie about it and it just so happens that they might have lied about something else it becomes an issue.

[MusicMan]

breaking news:
ballplayers are sometimes unfaithful to their wives!

Breaking news:
Most ballplayers don't commit felonious statuatory rape!

[JimR]

Rusty and Roger are perfect for each other.

i've been saying this all along. pompous, egotistical asses, both.

[BatGirl]

Breaking news:
Most ballplayers don't commit felonious statuatory rape!

maybe i didn't read carefully enough - is there mention of this?

[Bench]

i've been saying this all along. pompous, egotistical asses, both.

And two people who have never let the facts interfere with self-indulgent bluster.

[JimR]

Breaking news:
Most ballplayers don't commit felonious statuatory rape!

there is no confirmation of this.

[Houston]

maybe i didn't read carefully enough - is there mention of this?

She does admit that the first time she met him was in a bar when she was 15 and she went back to his hotel room later that night.

Why would a grown man take a 15 year old girl to his hotel room? That's certainly not to the place to disperse career advice.

[MusicMan]

there is no confirmation of this.

Just that he took a fifteen year old girl back to his hotel room.

[Limey]

Mindy has confirmed the story.  She says the affair started when she was older.  She does admit that the first time she met him was in a bar when she was 15 and she went back to his hotel room later that night.  She claims nothing happened though.  Good job, Racket.  You met a 15 year old in a bar and took her back to your hotel.

Lifestyles of the Rich and Unprincipled.

[BudGirl]

Mindy has confirmed the story.  She says the affair started when she was older.  She does admit that the first time she met him was in a bar when she was 15 and she went back to his hotel room later that night.  She claims nothing happened though.  Good job, Racket.  You met a 15 year old in a bar and took her back to your hotel.

What the hell is a 15 year old doing in a bar?  (Not that I think this clears Clemens of anything, just wondering who the hell lets their 15 year old go to a bar.)

[Limey]

She does admit that the first time she met him was in a bar when she was 15 and she went back to his hotel room later that night.

Why would a grown man take a 15 year old girl to his hotel room? That's certainly not to the place to disperse career advice.

Giving Roger the benefit of the doubt, maybe he didn't find out how old she was until he got her back to his room.  Maybe then, being the classy guy he is, he gave her his number and told her to call him in three years.

[Amy]

I feel sorry for Roger's kids having to go through all this crap.

[Limey]

I feel sorry for Roger's kids having to go through all this crap.

"C'mon kids, don't think of Mindy as your Daddy's (allegedly) underage mistress, think of her as your new best friend.  After all, you're the same age..."

[Taras Bulba]

I feel sorry for Roger's kids having to go through all this crap.

Yeah, but they're allowed to spell crap with a "K" in the Clemens household.

[pravata]

I feel sorry for Roger's kids having to go through all this crap.

Somehow I think they're used to it.

[geezerdonk]

This could lead to another career for Roger as part of a new
hip-hop duo, R.Kelly and R.Klemens.

[Houston]

This could lead to another career for Roger as part of a new
hip-hop duo, R.Kelly and R.Klemens.

Or Clemens could go solo as "Rocket on the Docket."

[Limey]

Clemens announced today that there's too much negative press associated with the name "Katy Rocket", so he's changing his name and from now on will be known as "K-Riddy".

[JimR]

Just that he took a fifteen year old girl back to his hotel room.

exactly, but your comment was "felonious statutory rape." maybe so, but no confirmation yet.

[Andyzipp]

What the hell is a 15 year old doing in a bar?  (Not that I think this clears Clemens of anything, just wondering who the hell lets their 15 year old go to a bar.)

It was in Florida.  Don't know how much time you spent in Winter Haven, but it's not surprising...

[MusicMan]

exactly, but your comment was "felonious statutory rape." maybe so, but no confirmation yet.

Hyperbolic?  Yes.  But any father of daughters can be granted a little leeway in the hyperbole when it comes to such things.

And as for is kids... no, they cannot be used to this, and no one should have to ever be used to such things.

[Amy]

Hyperbolic?  Yes.  But any father of daughters can be granted a little leeway in the hyperbole when it comes to such things.

And as for is kids... no, they cannot be used to this, and no one should have to ever be used to such things.

Yes, for all the advantages they have, in some ways I'm sure being Roger Clemens' kid can be a tough gig.  And a completely involuntary one at that.

[ybbodeus]

Yet another disturbing example of, "Little is as it seems." 

[JimR]

Hyperbolic?  Yes.  But any father of daughters can be granted a little leeway in the hyperbole when it comes to such things.

And as for is kids... no, they cannot be used to this, and no one should have to ever be used to such things.

defamatory, and fathers get no free passes to libel.

[MusicMan]

Defamatory?  I think it's hardly a stretch to say that when she's confirmed the relationship.

[Bench]

Defamatory?  I think it's hardly a stretch to say that when she's confirmed the relationship.

Has she confirmed a sexual relationship or just a "relationship"?

[Limey]

Has she confirmed a sexual relationship or just a "relationship"?

And whether or not she's using Clinton's definition of "sex".

[kevwun]

She's confirmed that Clemens took the skin boat to tuna town.  She says that didn't start until she was older, but she hasn't said exactly when.

[JimR]

She's confirmed that Clemens took the skin boat to tuna town.  She says that didn't start until she was older, but she hasn't said exactly when.

"after i moved to Nashville"=18

[Bench]

She says that didn't start until she was older, but she hasn't said exactly when.

She was three hours older than when she first met him.

[MusicMan]

"after i moved to Nashville"=18

OK.  Roger is not, as I had indicated, responsible for committing felonious statuatory rape.  I retract that statement, and issue herewith a correction:

Most ballplayers don't strike up relationships with 15-year olds and bed them three years later.

He's a sick, worthless pile of crap with legs, and no, I don't see anything libelous in that statement.

[Bench]

He's a sick, worthless pile of crap with legs, and no, I don't see anything libelous in that statement.

Truth is the perfect defense.

[JimR]

OK.  Roger is not, as I had indicated, responsible for committing felonious statuatory rape.  I retract that statement, and issue herewith a correction:

Most ballplayers don't strike up relationships with 15-year olds and bed them three years later.

He's a sick, worthless pile of crap with legs, and no, I don't see anything libelous in that statement.

much better.

[Limey]

Reminds me of "From the Hip", which reappeared for no apparent reason on cable recently.  A lawyer argues the admissibility of the word "asshole" to describe a defendant, because it's the only word that truly captures the essence of the man.

[Noe]

He's a sick, worthless pile of crap with legs, and no, I don't see anything libelous in that statement.

He is that indeed.

[Craig]

She's confirmed that Clemens took the skin boat to tuna town.  She says that didn't start until she was older, but she hasn't said exactly when.

I wonder if he gave her a high hard one, or picked his spots and nibbled at the corners.

[JimR]

I wonder if he gave her a high hard one, or picked his spots and nibbled at the corners.

as i recall, he favors the split finger when in a tight spot.

[Ty in Tampa]

as i recall, he favors the split finger when in a tight spot.

Zow!

[Lurch]

as i recall, he favors the split finger when in a tight spot.

Though, when training with Pettitte, they focused solely on the knuckler.

[Fredia]

i was just fixen to ask i wonder how alice feels bout all this. does it make all those years seem less than they were

[Craig]

as i recall, he favors the split finger when in a tight spot.

Hahaha, Zing!

[Craig]

Though, when training with Pettitte, they focused solely on the knuckler.

Roger's also the guy who showed Pettitte how to bury one in the dirt.

[Limey]

I wonder if he gave her a high hard one, or picked his spots and nibbled at the corners.

OK, I'll go there...

...or was he hittin' the walls and working the middle.

[Limey]

Roger's also the guy who showed Pettitte how to bury one in the dirt.

Something that Piazza called for on a regular basis.

[Waldo]

Looks like Mindy got a visit from Uncle Charlie.

[ybbodeus]

I gotta write these down.....

[remy]

And after it was all said and done she got a little chin music to remember him by.

[MikeyBoy]

Andy now understands that Dirty Sanchez is not the Dominican equivalent of La Russa.

[Andyzipp]

And after it was all said and done she got a little chin music to remember him by.

That's what she gets for digging in.

[pravata]

I gotta write these down.....

They're not going anywhere, certainly no one is going to steal them.

[JimR]

They're not going anywhere, certainly no one is going to steal them.

the burning issue now is whether DQ is above or below the Polonia Line.

Luis pleaded guilty to sex w/a 15 year old.

[Astroholic]

the burning issue now is whether DQ is above or below the Polonia Line.

Luis pleaded guilty to sex w/a 15 year old.

I admit it, I once had sex with a 15 yr old









When I was 15.

[Andyzipp]

the burning issue

A little penicillin can clear that up.

[MusicMan]

This little gem in today's Bill Simmons chat made me laugh:

Roger (Houston, TX): Billy Ray Cyrus is refusing to take my calls

[HudsonHawk]

Reminds me of "From the Hip", which reappeared for no apparent reason on cable recently.  A lawyer argues the admissibility of the word "asshole" to describe a defendant, because it's the only word that truly captures the essence of the man.

"No other words accurately describe the *particular* slime that his client oozes."  One of my favorite movie lines.

[jonbloozy]

Speaking of . . . just saw this in the 10 Top Upcoming Promotions on MiLB.com

Fresno Grizzlies (Pacific Coast League)
Hannah Montana "Ride Your Kids' Coattails Night"
April 30
The Grizzlies offer $1 admission to kids 12 and under every Wednesday, and now they're extending that offer to parents as well. As part of "Ride Your Kids' Coattails Night," any parent who brings in an award won by his or her child will be eligible to purchase a $1 ticket. This novel promotion was inspired by country music star Billy Ray Cyrus, who has revived his own career due to the massive success attained by his daughter, Miley (a.k.a. Hannah Montana). Accordingly, the entire evening at Chukchansi Park will be dedicated to celebrating the phenomenon that is Hannah Montana. Most intriguingly (and terrifyingly), employees from tween boutique Club Libby Lu will be offering free pop-star makeovers on the concourse during the game. What hath you wrought, Billy Ray?

[Houston]

The NY Daily News links Clemens to other women around the country.

Apparently, you can't tell one ho from another without a scorecard.

Roger Clemens, #1 in his head and #1 in your hearts.

[kevwun]

I guess it wasn't such a great idea to sue someone who knew about the skeletons in his closet.

[Houston]

I guess it wasn't such a great idea to sue someone who knew about the skeletons in his closet.

I've never seen a clearer example of the phrase "pride comes before a fall." Roger has his own ego to blame for almost every detail of this episode, but he'll look for ways and reasons to pass it off on someone else.

[Limey]

I guess it wasn't such a great idea to sue someone who knew about the skeletons in his closet.

That sound you heard being the other shoe dropping...McNamee lawyers are pondering issuing a subpoena to Mindy.  Presumably this will be under the guise of asking her if she ever saw him juicing, or if his penis shrank noticably during their 10-year association.  I'm sure they'll get nothing from her on that subject but, what they will get, is a whole ton of salacious detail on record (see Starr, Kenneth).

[JimR]

I guess it wasn't such a great idea to sue someone who knew about the skeletons in his closet.

exactly right. when one fucks around with rattlesnakes, one occasionally gets bit.

[pravata]

exactly right. when one fucks around with rattlesnakes, one occasionally gets bit.

I believe that McNamee's attorney, after the phone stunt, told them "Of course you know, this means war."

[KayJay90]

as i recall, he favors the split finger when in a tight spot.

Or, as a friend of mine said, the backdoor slider.

(yikes!)

[JaneDoe]

I've never seen a clearer example of the phrase "pride comes before a fall." Roger has his own ego to blame for almost every detail of this episode, but he'll look for ways and reasons to pass it off on someone else.

Clemens' arrogance sowed the seeds of self-destruction  (Article link below)

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/danoneill/story/0870B447C81288EA8625743B0013C34F?OpenDocument

[TheWizard]

Clemens' arrogance sowed the seeds of self-destruction  (Article link below)

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/danoneill/story/0870B447C81288EA8625743B0013C34F?OpenDocument

And, if you believe B-12 shots in the butt, if you believe Pettitte's a liar, if you believe a 28-year-old baseball star with a wife and kids befriends a 15-year-old girl in a bar for innocent companionship, you give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm sure Clemens and the girl simply hung out coloring each other's nail's or frosting each other's tips.

[Col. Sphinx Drummond]

I've been dumbfounded by the recent developments of the Roger Clemens saga. I just don't have the words to describe my contempt. What a fraud he has turned out to be. There is just no way to put anything but a negative spin this despicable turn of events. In spite of all he has been noted for in the past, it's all overshadowed by the revelations of his aversion to decency. His name has become a harbinger for me, alerting me to change the channel, turn the page, move on. Otherwise he's dead to me. You guys can talk about him. I'll just skip to the next thread.

[Houston]

It's Thursday, so there must be more dirt to dig up on Roger. This time it's the former Mrs. John Daly.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/04/30/2008-04-30_roger_clemens_linked_to_john_dalys_ex.html

[Limey]

It's Thursday, so there must be more dirt to dig up on Roger. This time it's the former Mrs. John Daly.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/04/30/2008-04-30_roger_clemens_linked_to_john_dalys_ex.html

I'm sure that, over the years, Clemens has had enough ass to make a boy band blush.  It's an ego thing.  His adultery doesn't bother me per se - that's between him and his wife.  Even the suggestion of an affair with an underage girl which, if true, is completely illegal, doesn't bother me that much because (a) in Limeyland she would've been legal at 16, so 15 isn't quite such an affront to my sensibilities as it may be to others, and (b) she was hanging out in a bar so it's not like he was imposing himself on the babysitter like Romanowski.

The bottom line is, though, that the thin veneer of worthiness of Roger Clemens as a human being has been all-but removed, exposing the rancid piece of shit inside.  I don't think I have ever seen anyone so deserving of a fall from grace, actually do so in such quick time.  It's quite astonishing really.  So much so that, for very brief moments, I almost have some sympathy.  Then I remember who he is and the moment is gone.

[mihoba]

delusions

[Craig]

Here's another article about how he hit on the future wife of Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake, but she told him to fuck off.

[BudGirl]

This thread feels like http://itsasecretsohush.blogspot.com/

[MusicMan]

Karl Malone thinks this is no problem

[Limey]

Karl Malone thinks this is no problem

Hey Karl!

FWIW, I've always thought of him as a piece of shit, not least for his playing style.  He was gifted with size, power, speed and touch, yet chose to fall over at the flap of a butterfly's wings to get most of his points.  He also broke someone's face with a chickenshit elbow when in college.  He also only picked fights with people smaller than him...and Matt Bullard...never with his opposite numbers like Rodman, Oakley, Berkley etc.

All round tosser and, now, proven despicable shitbag.

[kevwun]

I bet he had a premonition that he was going to be drafted by Utah and was just trying to fit in.

[MRaup]

(b) she was hanging out in a bar so it's not like he was imposing himself on the babysitter like Romanowski.

Maybe I misread something, but wasn't she singing in the bar at the time? This chick is/was a country music singer, right?

[Limey]

Maybe I misread something, but wasn't she singing in the bar at the time? This chick is/was a country music singer, right?

That's an angle of which I wasn't aware.  In which case Clemens becomes a tad more despicable (if that's possible), and I wonder out loud "Where the fuck were her parents/manager?"

[pravata]

That's an angle of which I wasn't aware.  In which case Clemens becomes a tad more despicable (if that's possible), and I wonder out loud "Where the fuck were her parents/manager?"

a karaoke bar Link How's she get in?  If the bar was for underage people, what's Clemens doing there?

[Limey]

a karaoke bar Link How's she get in?  If the bar was for underage people, what's Clemens doing there?

The relationship turned intimate after she later moved to Nashville and became a country star, the paper said.

Clemens don't fuck nobodies.

[pravata]

Clemens don't fuck nobodies.

"McCready went with Clemens to his hotel room after their first meeting, but that they did not have sex..." course not, 28 year old Clemens just wanted to continue the interesting conversation he was having with the 15 year old girl; which may be even creepier.

[Limey]

"McCready went with Clemens to his hotel room after their first meeting, but that they did not have sex..." course not, 28 year old Clemens just wanted to continue the interesting conversation he was having with the 15 year old girl; which may be even creepier.

Apparently, she's a wiz with a syringe, and he had a hankerin' for some B12.

[Andyzipp]

a karaoke bar Link How's she get in?  If the bar was for underage people, what's Clemens doing there?

Several of you are acting like you've never been to central Florida.  Underage girls, seedy bars, baseball players. All of this is pretty common place.

[Limey]

Several of you are acting like you've never been to central Florida.  Underage girls, seedy bars, baseball players. All of this is pretty common place.

Should we then merge this thread with the Summer Vacations discussion in Beer & Queso?

[BudGirl]

So, I went to pick someone up at Hobby today and saw a billboard on 45, right before the Woodrigde exit, stating "Houston Supports Clemens." 

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd121/xlsportster0/?action=view&current=DSCN1247.jpg

I hope that link works because I found it on another website.

Just thought it was interesting.  Maybe someone else can figure out who is the one putting up the billboard.

[JackAstro]

Maybe someone else can figure out who is the one putting up the billboard.

"SPONSORED BY GRILLSBYPAULWALL.COM, PAUL WALL ENTERPRIZES & DAGO'S TATTOOS"

Address your letters of support accordingly.

[JaneDoe]

When is a no comment really a no comment?  Why even say anything. 

Yeah, I know there was a link about this story earlier.  I just don't understand why you have to say anything at all if you are gonna pull this out of your ass:

Paulette Daly admitted that she knew Clemens.

"Yeah, I've known Roger quite a while and we are friends," Daly said.

But when asked if she'd ever been romantically involved with Clemens, Daly told the News, "You know what, I'm really uncomfortable talking about this. I'm just going to have to say, 'No comment.'

"I know Roger. I consider him a good friend. That's all I'm comfortable saying."

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8094080?MSNHPHMA

[Limey]

When is a no comment really a no comment?


http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8094080?MSNHPHMA

Romantically involved?  There wasn't anything romantic about it!

[Limey]

"SPONSORED BY GRILLSBYPAULWALL.COM, PAUL WALL ENTERPRIZES & DAGO'S TATTOOS"

Address your letters of support accordingly.

You know, I honestly went there expecting to see a website about outdoor cooking.  Well, I am English.

[kevwun]

Roger's taste in women is interesting and by interesting I mean shitty.

[MusicMan]

Roger's taste in women is interesting and by interesting I mean shitty.

Well, people do frequently find mates that reflect their inner selves.

[Outlawscotty]

So far its just been 'celebrity holes.'  When do we hear about the MILF's and Girl's Next Door?  Nevermind, I don't need to know.

[Limey]

So far its just been 'celebrity holes.'  When do we hear about the MILF's and Girl's Next Door?  Nevermind, I don't need to know.

Well I think Debbie Clemens qualifies as a MILF.  But after Roger testified that she'd taken HGH, I think I'd give her the ol' Crocodile Dundee test first.

[Outlawscotty]

Well I think Debbie Clemens qualifies as a MILF.  But after Roger testified that she'd taken HGH, I think I'd give her the ol' Crocodile Dundee test first.

I was talking strictly 'other' women.

[Limey]

I was talking strictly 'other' women.

That's Mother I'd Like to..., not Mother Roger does...

And...Bingo.

[rambo2]

She's confirmed that Clemens took the skin boat to tuna town.  She says that didn't start until she was older, but she hasn't said exactly when.

Maybe she missremembers.

[OregonStrosFan]

Roger's taste in women is interesting and by interesting I mean shitty.

Not nearly as shitty as my taste in ballplayers to collect memorabilia of (the Ryan Express excluded of course).  Had given a Clemens signed non GU baseball to a friend and his wife late last year (pre Mitchell Report) as a donation to be sold in their kiddos school auction. Got it back earlier this year (post Capitol Hill circus) saying that they didn't need it after all.  Go figure...

[geezerdonk]

the ol' Crocodile Dundee test first

Probably not as reliable as it once was.
I'm guessing that Barry could pass no problem.

[Noe]

Maybe she missremembers.

Which in this case would be a huge blow to Racket's ego!  Nice one rook.

[BudGirl]

Which in this case would be a huge blow to Racket's ego!  Nice one rook.

Not everything is worth remembering.

[geezerdonk]

Probably not as reliable as it once was.
I'm guessing that Barry could pass no problem.

Almost forgot LaRussa.

[Bench]

Emery keeps lobbing the law bombs at the Roger/Rusty show:

Richard Emery, one of McNamee's lawyers, said he would be surprised if the suit is dropped.

"It's much too rational a move for them to make," he said. "Everything about the way they've handled this case is irrational, so I wouldn't expect them to act rationally now."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3379193

[JackAstro]

Hell, I don't know if this is Cabrera, but I tried to avoid it:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5753476.html

When Giambi apologized for nothing in particular, it was much easier to follow along, since he hadn't been accused of such a dazzling array of indiscretions. It would be helpful if Roger would be a little more specific, because I have no way of knowing what the fuck he's apologizing for.

This quote is particularly fantastic:

Now, I have been accused of having an improper relationship with a 15-year-old girl. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Really? I must not understand how that phrase works, because I just came up with one statement that's further from the truth, without even trying: Roger Clemens has never been in a hotel room with a 15-year-old girl that he just met at a bar. Now you try. It's really easy.