Milo and Tejada/Tejeda

[Gizzmonic]

I listened to Milo on XM on Sunday (punk-ass FSN San Antonio carried the stRangers game instead) and I noticed that he kept calling Tejada "Tejeda."  Is this normal for him?  Why don't they slip him a note or something?

Astros radio is in bad shape.  Raymond and Dolan sound like they should be hawking weight-loss pills on late night TV.

[Bench]

I listened to Milo on XM on Sunday (punk-ass FSN San Antonio carried the stRangers game instead) and I noticed that he kept calling Tejada "Tejeda."  Is this normal for him?  Why don't they slip him a note or something?

Astros radio is in bad shape.  Raymond and Dolan sound like they should be hawking weight-loss pills on late night TV.

Is your question actually "Is it normal for Milo to continually fuck up somebody's name?"

Yes. The answer is yes.

[remy]

Just noticed the "tuhhayda" thing yesterday in the car.  Spent the next minute bitching to my wife about how bad Milo has gotten.  Then she reminded me that I told her the same thing 4 years ago.

[MusicMan]

Is your question actually "Is it normal for Milo to continually fuck up somebody's name?"

Yes. The answer is yes.

FIFY

[chuck]

The hard l when saying Villarreal bugs the shit out of me. Milo is by no means the only culprit here.

[legs_of_eggs]

I find that listening to the crowd is a far more valuable tool for determining what's happening in the game via radio w/ Milo

[Ty in Tampa]

I may be alone here but I think given a chance to settle in and not have to babysit Milo's PBP, Do-Ray will be fine.

[Arky Vaughan]

I may be alone here but I think given a chance to settle in and not have to babysit Milo's PBP, Do-Ray will be fine.

They're a bit monotone for my tastes, their radio voices not being any better than Ashby's in that regard. However, they know their stuff reasonably well.

I'll listen to JD every day of the week over any of the rest of them.

[Gizzmonic]

J.D. is golden.  And Brownie's a great straight man.  Sometimes I wish they'd just pipe the TV audio over the radio.

And I don't like Dolan and Raymond much.  They just sound smarmy and fake to me.

They're a bit monotone for my tastes, their radio voices not being any better than Ashby's in that regard. However, they know their stuff reasonably well.

I'll listen to JD every day of the week over any of the rest of them.

[Arky Vaughan]

J.D. is golden.  And Brownie's a great straight man.  Sometimes I wish they'd just pipe the TV audio over the radio.

And I don't like Dolan and Raymond much.  They just sound smarmy and fake to me.

If I'm listening but not watching at home, I just pump the audio from the TV broadcast to the room I'm in. Agreed on Brownie as well. His recent Cabellisms notwithstanding, he's a good match for J.D.

[legs_of_eggs]

Dolan and Raymond get the job done but they're boring and don't have personalities.  JD is the whole package.  I agree I wish the TV audio feed was broadcasted on the radio.

[Ty in Tampa]

I guess I mean fine in that we'll get to listen to the radio and know what's going on with a significant amount of accurate detail to go with. They are kind of 'announcer-y' but I can live with that. I don't envy them having to exist under Milo.

Nobody beats JD.

[Jacksonian]

They're a bit monotone for my tastes, their radio voices not being any better than Ashby's in that regard. However, they know their stuff reasonably well.

I'll listen to JD every day of the week over any of the rest of them.

Dolan has a very Mean Gene Okerlund cadence to my ear.

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[Ebby Calvin]

Nobody beats JD.

Agreed.

[WakePhil]

I don't think Dolan & Raymond are bad, but what kills me is when Dolan/Raymond (I can't remember which one it is) gets excited. He sounds like Kermit the Frog, and its the least inspiring call. He obviously cares, and is excited, but his voice takes on a nasally inflection that isn't what you are looking for in a good call.

Brownie is great for what he does, calls the plays and doesn't get in the way and lets JD tell the jokes, but when something exiciting happens (Biggio's 3000 hit comes to mind) it sounds right.

I just cringe at thinking about hearing some of the great calls of late (Jeff Kent's walkoff, Burke's walk-off) shouted in that nasally voice. The rest of their calls are fine, nothing spectacular, but they get the job done.

Speaking of Burke's call, I always laugh when I hear Ashby shout, "Chris Burke!!" Its as if he didn't know what else to say so he just shouts his name once Milo finishes his "Lining it to left...its gone...its gone...its gone."

[Fredia]

milo and ash were the odd couple, but it seemed to work..

[Gulf Coast Playboy]

Speaking of Burke's call, I always laugh when I hear Ashby shout, "Chris Burke!!" Its as if he didn't know what else to say so he just shouts his name once Milo finishes his "Lining it to left...its gone...its gone...its gone."

I was lucky enough to be at that game and, therefore, have only heard the radio replay out-of-context...but it has always sounded to me that Ash's "Chris Burke!!" follow-up was an attempt to gracefully cover for Milo's utter failure before the play to even tell the listener who was batting.

With respect to TV, JD is simply outstanding in every way.  Hard to believe we are only 3 or 4 years removed from enduring Worrell for virtually all home games.

[kevwun]

I miss Ashby.  I wish there was a way to get him back.

[SaltyParker]

I miss Ashby.  I wish there was a way to get him back.

Man, I do too. I enjoyed him very much. These two guys suck.

[JimR]

I miss Ashby.  I wish there was a way to get him back.

he burned every bridge within 10 miles. forget him.

[Noe]

I don't think Dolan & Raymond are bad, but what kills me is when Dolan/Raymond (I can't remember which one it is) gets excited. He sounds like Kermit the Frog, and its the least inspiring call. He obviously cares, and is excited, but his voice takes on a nasally inflection that isn't what you are looking for in a good call.

Brownie is great for what he does, calls the plays and doesn't get in the way and lets JD tell the jokes, but when something exiciting happens (Biggio's 3000 hit comes to mind) it sounds right.

I just cringe at thinking about hearing some of the great calls of late (Jeff Kent's walkoff, Burke's walk-off) shouted in that nasally voice. The rest of their calls are fine, nothing spectacular, but they get the job done.

Speaking of Burke's call, I always laugh when I hear Ashby shout, "Chris Burke!!" Its as if he didn't know what else to say so he just shouts his name once Milo finishes his "Lining it to left...its gone...its gone...its gone."

That would be Dolan and you're dead spot on with the Kermit the Frog voice of excitement he has when someone just did something spectacular on defense or if someone just hit a homerun.  Either team, doesn't matter, it's a given and it actually is very funny.  Men whose voices raise three octaves when they get excited in a sports venue is funny to me.

[kermit]"Back to the waaaalllll.... IT'S GONE!"[/kermit]

[gwat]

(punk-ass FSN San Antonio carried the stRangers game instead)]

I can't recommend DirecTv with the Sports Package enough. You get all 3 of the FSSW feeds with Houston market games on 639.
You are not just stuck with SA Time Warner's baseball schedule. You may know this already.

[BudGirl]

The Astros usually show up on a different channel.  My dad watches most of the games.  I don't know what channel, maybe 77, is an alternate channel.  Worth a try to see if they are being shown there.

[Andyzipp]

That would be Dolan and you're dead spot on with the Kermit the Frog voice of excitement he has when someone just did something spectacular on defense or if someone just hit a homerun.  Either team, doesn't matter, it's a given and it actually is very funny.  Men whose voices raise three octaves when they get excited in a sports venue is funny to me.

[kermit]"Back to the waaaalllll.... IT'S GONE!"[/kermit]

I would prefer Kermit the Frog.  I have attempted to listen with an open mind, but the combination of either of these guys and Milo is just bad.  The two of them together (minus Milo) is even worse, and I didn't know that was possible.

[Arky Vaughan]

I don't think Dolan & Raymond are bad, but what kills me is when Dolan/Raymond (I can't remember which one it is) gets excited. He sounds like Kermit the Frog, and its the least inspiring call. He obviously cares, and is excited, but his voice takes on a nasally inflection that isn't what you are looking for in a good call.

This is the most grating part. I think if you've got that characteristic to your voice, you've got to find another way to express yourself during the exciting parts of the game. Not everybody has to do the screaming crescendo.

[Gizzmonic]

Yeah, I appreciate it.  I knew what I was getting into when I moved into town...honestly, I don't mind listening to games as opposed to watching them.  I usually don't have time to sit down and watch a whole game anyway.

SA Time Warner's schedule confuses me sometimes though, you've got a Sunday day game available in HD at the Astros' home park, and you go with the stRangers in SD instead?  I'm not sure who decides these things, but it's frustrating.

I can't recommend DirecTv with the Sports Package enough. You get all 3 of the FSSW feeds with Houston market games on 639.
You are not just stuck with SA Time Warner's baseball schedule. You may know this already.

[kevwun]

It's a shame the Astros didn't get somone like Kevin Bass as their new color guy.  He was a weekly guest on 610 a few of years ago and was great.  I always felt like I learned something listening to him, just like with JD.  Imo, the color guy needs to have played or coached the game at the mlb level and been part of the club at some point.

[JimR]

  Imo, the color guy needs to have played or coached the game at the mlb level and been part of the club at some point.

absolutely not, but the color guy has to know the game inside and out. playing helps a lot but should not be required.

[kevwun]

I think it ads a lot when they have mlb experience.  I think a big part of the reason most people don't like the new duo is that no one had any idea who either of them were when they were hired.   

[UpTooLate]

he burned every bridge within 10 miles. forget him.

Say Coach, since you are in the know on these things, would you remind me how Ash burned his bridges.  I forget the details.  I think I've always been on record as being a huge Ashby fan and I know that you provided explanations when it all fell apart.  Thanks.

[Andyzipp]

I think it ads a lot when they have mlb experience.  I think a big part of the reason most people don't like the new duo is that no one had any idea who either of them were when they were hired.   

Well, that's a pretty stupid reason to dislike the new guys.  A better reason would be their actual demonstation of skill or lack thereof.

At least that's where my dislike comes from.

And as I recall Loell Passe didn't play in the MLB.

[kevwun]

It's not that big of deal for the play by play guy.  I think that the Astros made a mistake by bringing in two unknowns at the same time.

[Arky Vaughan]

It's not that big of deal for the play by play guy.  I think that the Astros made a mistake by bringing in two unknowns at the same time.

The Astros probably figured they'd be "knowns" by by the time Milo was ready to step down. They hadn't considered that that time had long since passed. So now you've got a guy with a golden voice and long experience who's lost behind the mike pretty regularly and two guys who know what they're talking about but aren't very easy on the ears.

[Noe]

Say Coach, since you are in the know on these things, would you remind me how Ash burned his bridges.  I forget the details.  I think I've always been on record as being a huge Ashby fan and I know that you provided explanations when it all fell apart.  Thanks.

The story goes like this:

1. Ashby thought that Milo was going to put in a good word for him to take over.
2. Ashby because of that thought he had the job in hand and...
3. He marched into the offices of Mr. McLane with negotiation in mind... top dollar stuff
4. He was shocked when no negotiation came his way, instead they told him thanks, we'll get back to you
5. The Astros immediately went looking elsewhere for a broadcaster
6. Ashby was upset at this and started to bad mouth the organization and...
7. That is when the Astros hired "two" broadcast guys instead of one to team with Ashby on the road.  They basically fired Ashby because he wanted a top dollar contract as the main replacement for Milo Hamilton who he thought was retiring.

All of the above is speculation though, how much is myth and how much is truth is left to organization's super secret illuminati to hold on to.

[The Third Man]

I don't think Dolan & Raymond are bad, but what kills me is when Dolan/Raymond (I can't remember which one it is) gets excited. He sounds like Kermit the Frog

If *only* he sounded like that more often! If they could get a Statler and Waldorf sounding duo, I would be very happy indeed. Viva Muppet sound alikes!

[Ron Brand]

Listening to Milo butcher names always reminds me of Harry Carey in the late innings, when he was slurring and stumbling and whipped out the good stuff like, "Gant.  Spelled sideways is...Tnag."

[homer]

Listening to Milo butcher names always reminds me of Harry Carey in the late innings, when he was slurring and stumbling and whipped out the good stuff like, "Gant.  Spelled sideways is...Tnag."

Hearing Caray try to say Caminiti was always a special delight.

[UpTooLate]

The story goes like this:

1. Ashby thought that Milo was going to put in a good word for him to take over.
2. Ashby because of that thought he had the job in hand and...
3. He marched into the offices of Mr. McLane with negotiation in mind... top dollar stuff
4. He was shocked when no negotiation came his way, instead they told him thanks, we'll get back to you
5. The Astros immediately went looking elsewhere for a broadcaster
6. Ashby was upset at this and started to bad mouth the organization and...
7. That is when the Astros hired "two" broadcast guys instead of one to team with Ashby on the road.  They basically fired Ashby because he wanted a top dollar contract as the main replacement for Milo Hamilton who he thought was retiring.

All of the above is speculation though, how much is myth and how much is truth is left to organization's super secret illuminati to hold on to.

Thanks Noe.  I thought that's basically what happened.  Ash became a wee bit too greedy and The Boss showed him the door.  Damn shame.  I really enjoyed listening to him on the radio.  He almost made Milo tolerable.  My favorite moment was Milo making some reference about excessive drinking and Ash said that Milo sounded like the voice of experience.  There was about four seconds of dead air and you could tell that Milo was furious.  Great stuff.  I get that Milo is having a hard time letting go of his passion, but enough is enough.  At some point you just have to tell grandpa that it's just not safe for him to be driving any more.  Nobody wants to do that, but somebody needs to.

[Bench]

Thanks Noe.  I thought that's basically what happened.  Ash became a wee bit too greedy and The Boss showed him the door.  Damn shame.  I really enjoyed listening to him on the radio.  He almost made Milo tolerable.  My favorite moment was Milo making some reference about excessive drinking and Ash said that Milo sounded like the voice of experience.  There was about four seconds of dead air and you could tell that Milo was furious.  Great stuff.  I get that Milo is having a hard time letting go of his passion, but enough is enough.  At some point you just have to tell grandpa that it's just not safe for him to be driving any more.  Nobody wants to do that, but somebody needs to.

Ash is great and from what I read doing a good job in Toronto. Of course, the last I read was a year ago, so for all I know he no longer calls the Jays.

[outlookdude]

Had to register just so that I could mention why I stopped listening to the radio broadcasts.....It was when one of the new guys - I can't tell them apart - told me that Carlos Lee caught the ball in left field.....with his glove hand.

I always wonder about those type details when I listen to the radio. Is Roy still pitching with his right hand? Did Lance hit that home run with his bat, or did he use his shoe?

[remy]

Lance caught a pop fly with his sideburns in Kissimmee.  That's just something that won't show up in the box score.

[gwat]

Lance caught a pop fly with his sideburns in Kissimmee.  That's just something that won't show up in the box score.

I hope that it was for the third out.  I could just see Loretta digging for it then throwing up his hands like it was stuck in the ivy at Wrigley as the winning run tags and scores.

[matadorph]

They should've hired Mike Capps instead of Ho and Hummer. He has a great voice for pbp.

[Anit]

Yeah, I appreciate it.  I knew what I was getting into when I moved into town...honestly, I don't mind listening to games as opposed to watching them.  I usually don't have time to sit down and watch a whole game anyway.

SA Time Warner's schedule confuses me sometimes though, you've got a Sunday day game available in HD at the Astros' home park, and you go with the stRangers in SD instead?  I'm not sure who decides these things, but it's frustrating.

i know im late on this, but i live in san antonio too and have to deal with the problem

its not FSN's fault, the game was on my20, and san antonio doesnt have an affiliate for it..so anytime you see a game thats on my20, be prepared to not get it..other than that, the FSN affiliate in san antonio will play the astros over the rangers 10 times out of 10..

oh, and every sunday game this year is on my20, so no astros baseball on sundays in san antonio