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« on: March 12, 2008, 10:51:53 pm »
20 in a row for the Rockets!  I'm a biased fan, but I think this is a legit team that can make a run in the playoffs.  They are playing great team ball, even without Yao, and McGrady has stepped up his game.  Thoughts?

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=280312001
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 11:12:46 pm »
I can't remember the last time I was this wrong about a team.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 11:17:11 pm »
lol dont go jinxing em.. but yea umm yea
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 06:34:37 am »
Wait, what?  This isn't another beer thread?
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 06:46:26 am »
I love the fact that they've been on this kind of a run (even as a Spur fan), but w/o Yao, they'll get exposed in the playoffs. The playoffs are just a whole different animal. It'll be fun to see if they can upset some other team once they get there however.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 07:30:55 am »
Quote from: TheWizard on March 12, 2008, 10:51:53 pm
20 in a row for the Rockets!  I'm a biased fan, but I think this is a legit team that can make a run in the playoffs.  They are playing great team ball, even without Yao, and McGrady has stepped up his game.  Thoughts?


They couldn't hit squat last night and still won the game by 10 points.  Their defense has been outstanding.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 07:53:32 am »
Let's not turn this into grounds for predictions and claims of post season success.   Like HH said, outstanding defense, some pretty strong offensive stretches (I love the motion offense when run effectively.  It's simply fun to watch). 

I'm enjoying the streak and it says a great deal that when the offense isn't clicking, they will step up and shut down the opposition on the other end. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 08:21:12 am »
Quote from: remy on March 13, 2008, 06:34:37 am
Wait, what?  This isn't another beer thread?

Not beer, not soft-core, but basketball? Whaaa?

Get the printer warmed up and sharpen those pencils, the brackets are set on Sunday. Best sporting event of them all.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 09:04:22 am »
Quote from: remy on March 13, 2008, 06:34:37 am
Wait, what?  This isn't another beer thread?

I actually thought this was going to be a porn thread.  But I'll always talk about the Rockets.

Charles Barkley was just on Mike & Mike and he opined that this team is not good enough -- without Yao Ming -- to win the championship.  And he might be right.  But the team is a lot of fun to watch.  The ageless Dikembe is reason enough to watch the team.  The two-headed power forward monster of Scola and Landry is going to be a asset for the team for years to come.  And Rafer Alston is turning into a valuable player and I credit the team's success to this more than Tracy "stepping it up." 

Figures that this was the year I decided not to get the NBA package.  "Watching" the games on ESPN.com is a real bitch.

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 10:22:51 am »
It's a players game and it's been a real team effort with everyone stepping up, but I also have to give a lot credit to Rick Adelman's influence.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 10:43:03 am »
Quote from: toddthebod on March 13, 2008, 09:04:22 am
I actually thought this was going to be a porn thread.  But I'll always talk about the Rockets.

Charles Barkley was just on Mike & Mike and he opined that this team is not good enough -- without Yao Ming -- to win the championship.  And he might be right.  But the team is a lot of fun to watch.  The ageless Dikembe is reason enough to watch the team.  The two-headed power forward monster of Scola and Landry is going to be a asset for the team for years to come.  And Rafer Alston is turning into a valuable player and I credit the team's success to this more than Tracy "stepping it up." 

Figures that this was the year I decided not to get the NBA package.  "Watching" the games on ESPN.com is a real bitch.



Chuck can suck my ass.  I am not sure why he is so negative towards the Rockets.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 10:46:21 am »
Quote from: Astroholic on March 13, 2008, 10:43:03 am
Chuck can suck my ass.  I am not sure why he is so negative towards the Rockets.


Chuck thinks that anything that doesn't involve Chuck, is turrabel.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2008, 10:59:47 am »
Quote from: Astroholic on March 13, 2008, 10:43:03 am
Chuck can suck my ass.  I am not sure why he is so negative towards the Rockets.

Chuck is positively glowing about Houston and their fans; he just doesn't like the current team, and I think he has little use for T-Mac.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2008, 11:07:38 am »
Quote from: toddthebod on March 13, 2008, 09:04:22 am
Charles Barkley was just on Mike & Mike and he opined that this team is not good enough -- without Yao Ming -- to win the championship.  And he might be right. 


Barkley's been yammering about how the Rockets are doomed without Yao since the day he went out.  All they've done since then is win 10 in a row.  Mind you, this is the same Yao about whom Barkley once claimed wouldn't last 2 years in the league and would never score 20 points in a game in his career.  Astroholic is right...if it ain't about Chuck, Chuck ain't impressed.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2008, 11:21:53 am »
Barkley gets paid in proportion to how much of an ass he can be. Odds are, some of the stuff he says, even he doesn't believe.
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2008, 11:28:25 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 13, 2008, 11:07:38 am

Barkley's been yammering about how the Rockets are doomed without Yao since the day he went out.  All they've done since then is win 10 in a row.

I hope it gets to 10 in a row without Yao.  It stands at 7 right now.

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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2008, 11:31:57 am »
Just out of curiosity, what puts the Rockets ahead of the Spurs in the standings.  The alphabet?
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2008, 11:37:13 am »
Quote from: Limey on March 13, 2008, 11:31:57 am
Just out of curiosity, what puts the Rockets ahead of the Spurs in the standings.  The alphabet?

I think the Rockets have the better head to head record, though that might not actually be the tiebreaker.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2008, 11:37:59 am »
Better head-to-head record. The Rockets also have the better conference record.
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2008, 11:39:15 am »
Quote from: Limey on March 13, 2008, 11:31:57 am
Just out of curiosity, what puts the Rockets ahead of the Spurs in the standings.  The alphabet?

Rockets hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over both SA and NO with a 2-1 record, with one game left against each.
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 01:23:57 pm »
Didn't Alexander cheat Chuck out of a couple million he promised?
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 01:55:08 pm »
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Didn't Alexander cheat Chuck out of a couple million he promised?
"Cheat" according to Chuck, "business" according to Les.
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 01:59:41 pm »
Quote from: Greg M on March 13, 2008, 01:23:57 pm
Didn't Alexander cheat Chuck out of a couple million he promised?

In short, no.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 01:59:44 pm »
Quote from: Lefty on March 13, 2008, 01:55:08 pm
"Cheat" according to Chuck, "business" according to Les.

I'm not familiar with this story...please share.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2008, 02:02:01 pm »
Its too bad Chuck played in Houston too early to enjoy the company of Berkman and Lee, they could have been legendary on the buffet circuit.
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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2008, 02:03:50 pm »
Quote from: TheWizard on March 13, 2008, 02:02:01 pm
Its too bad Chuck played in Houston too early to enjoy the company of Berkman and Lee, they could have been legendary on the buffet circuit.

Go a little farther back, Doug Williams before he shot himself in the leg, and Bob Cluck.
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2008, 02:09:36 pm »
Is anyone else concerned that Landry's injury is more serious than the team is letting on?  He has missed a few games, his swelling is in the same knee that he had surgically repaired, and the team has already taken steps to find a replacement which involved cutting Gerald Green.  Of course, I don't think losing Green is much of an issue, seems the Heat signed Bobby Jones over Green after both were let go.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-flspheatnote13sbmar13,0,1207685.story

Of course, Yao being out contributed to finding another big man as well.
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2008, 02:10:41 pm »
Quote from: Andyzipp on March 13, 2008, 01:59:44 pm
I'm not familiar with this story...please share.
Chuck accepted the veteran's minimum salary and rejected much higher offers (including 1 from the Lakers) to stay in Houston & to allow the Rox to acquire Pippen.  There was allegedly some sort of handshake "make good" deal for down the road.  Then Barkley got hurt & wasn't an asset anymore, just an ass, and that deal never materialized.  I can't find any of the quotes from Barkley talking about it.
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2008, 02:14:02 pm »
Dr. Jobe (I think...whoever is in Alabama) said there was no damage, structural or otherwise...just swelling.
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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2008, 02:15:07 pm »
Quote from: Andyzipp on March 13, 2008, 02:14:02 pm
Dr. Jobe (I think...whoever is in Alabama) said there was no damage, structural or otherwise...just swelling.
I hadn't seen that.  Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2008, 02:53:29 pm »
Quote from: Lefty on March 13, 2008, 02:10:41 pm
Chuck accepted the veteran's minimum salary and rejected much higher offers (including 1 from the Lakers) to stay in Houston & to allow the Rox to acquire Pippen.  There was allegedly some sort of handshake "make good" deal for down the road.  Then Barkley got hurt & wasn't an asset anymore, just an ass, and that deal never materialized.  I can't find any of the quotes from Barkley talking about it.


Barkley got hurt and retired.  It wasn't like the Rockets refused to pay him what they owed him.  There was never any dispute.  It would be like Jeff Bagwell commenting now "you know, the Astros told me in 2001 that they'd be willing to sign me for one more year after 2007, so they owe me another season's salary, even though my career is over and I can't physically play anymore".  Besides, Barkley says this in jest.
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2008, 03:26:45 pm »
Quote from: toddthebod on March 13, 2008, 09:04:22 am
"Watching" the games on ESPN.com is a real bitch.

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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2008, 12:12:07 pm »
Make it 21.  Big game tomorrow against the Lake Show.  Wonder if Gasol is going to play?
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« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2008, 03:41:30 pm »
Article about the Astros view of the Rockets 21 game winning streak contains the following amazing insight from Fat Elvis.

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"Come to think of it, that is pretty remarkable," Berkman said.


Remarkable?  Yeah.

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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2008, 11:43:13 am »
It's now the 2nd longest winning streak in nba history.
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« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2008, 01:06:18 pm »
OMG a Rockets game on TV! In Austin!
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« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2008, 05:06:38 pm »
Congrats on #22!   Rayfor Alston shot like a madman.
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« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2008, 05:16:10 pm »
Bobby Jackson came up huge too.  Streaky players.
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« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2008, 09:45:04 pm »
Their next two games are gonna be really tough. At home to Boston on TNT on Tuesday and then the next day they play at New Orleans on Wednesday.
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« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2008, 11:32:29 pm »
The big thing is now they are #1 in the West.  What a run.
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« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2008, 12:24:23 am »
you can't leave out Shane Battier....he shut Kobey down.
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« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2008, 01:57:01 am »
Quote from: Greg M on March 16, 2008, 05:16:10 pm
Bobby Jackson came up huge too.  Streaky players.

Offensively, it's a game of streaks, but defense is a constant. They're winning because they play outstanding team defense and they get key offensive contributions from the bench when needed. This Rockets team can go all the way. They're not 31-4 since Jan 1st because of streaky shooting and a kind schedule. They're just fuckin good.
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« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2008, 08:21:32 am »
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you can't leave out Shane Battier....he shut Kobey down.

I don't recall seeing a better defensive effort.  Shane was outstanding.  When was the last time you saw Kobe covered by one man?  Every shot was contested with a hand in Kobes face.  Nice.
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« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2008, 09:06:52 am »
Good morning everyone, and...

Fuck the Lakers.

That is all.
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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2008, 01:13:16 pm »
Quote from: Astroholic on March 17, 2008, 08:21:32 am
I don't recall seeing a better defensive effort.  Shane was outstanding.  When was the last time you saw Kobe covered by one man?  Every shot was contested with a hand in Kobes face.  Nice.

This Laker homer is a jackass, trying to put a damper on Battier's effort.
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Spread the floor and run the triangle offense all the way to a satisfactory conclusion. Instead, they depended far too much on letting Kobe go one-on-one against Shane Battier. Relentlessly hounded by Battier, Kobe was 11-for-33 — although it must be noted that Battier face-guarded Bryant on virtually every jumper. The last time I looked at the rule book, face-guarding was illegal.

I'm not even sure his definition of "face-guarding" is correct.  On any team I've played on, face-guarding means turning your back to the ballhandler and facing the guy you are defending, not literally the hand-in-the-face that Battier uses.
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« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2008, 01:17:22 pm »
Quote from: TheWizard on March 17, 2008, 01:13:16 pm
This Laker homer is a jackass, trying to put a damper on Battier's effort.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7917328
I'm not even sure his definition of "face-guarding" is correct.  On any team I've played on, face-guarding means turning your back to the ballhandler and facing the guy you are defending, not literally the hand-in-the-face that Battier uses.

I am not sure of about that rule either.  I have never, ever seen it called. Sour Grapes perhaps.
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« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2008, 01:29:52 pm »
Quote from: TheWizard on March 17, 2008, 01:13:16 pm
This Laker homer is a jackass, trying to put a damper on Battier's effort.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7917328
I'm not even sure his definition of "face-guarding" is correct.  On any team I've played on, face-guarding means turning your back to the ballhandler and facing the guy you are defending, not literally the hand-in-the-face that Battier uses.

It's legal, as far as I can tell from reading the rules.

From Rule 12, section 5m:  Eye guarding (placing a hand in front of the opponent's eyes when guard-ing from the rear) a player who does not have possession of the ball is illegal and an unsportsmanlike technical shall be assessed.

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