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« on: January 21, 2008, 07:20:54 pm »
Rooster Andrews died today. great guy, and a great Longhorn. RIP.
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 07:57:52 pm »
That's sad. What a character he was, and a Longhorn legend... he'll be missed!

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 09:07:34 pm »
Even speaking as an Aggie, he'll be missed.  He was a very good man.

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 10:03:12 pm »
Rick Cantu has a nice write-up. Best wishes to his entire family.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 07:59:45 am »
Rooster Andrews died today. great guy, and a great Longhorn. RIP.

Reading his obit today in Dallas, there were a couple of things that I didn't realize. Royal asked him to design a logo for the team and thus the Horn on the helmet was borne. Completely his idea and design. Perhaps the most recognizable helmet in college football.

Royal was visiting him a couple of times a week during his declining days the article said. Class act his ownself.

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 08:23:15 am »
When I was a kid, no trip to Austin was complete without going to the Rooster Andrews store on Guadalupe. I bought many a hat there, including my first Astros hat.

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 08:24:28 am »
Reading his obit today in Dallas, there were a couple of things that I didn't realize. Royal asked him to design a logo for the team and thus the Horn on the helmet was borne. Completely his idea and design. Perhaps the most recognizable helmet in college football.

Royal was visiting him a couple of times a week during his declining days the article said. Class act his ownself.

Speaking of Royal, I read yesterday that he was the guy that introduced Willie Nelson to his longtime harmonica player Mickey Raphael at a jam session he (Royal) used to have after games.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 09:32:34 am »
I remember having to go to one of his stores to be fitted for 'artificial turf football shoes' after we made the regionals and had to play at Baylor stadium.  His store went out of it's way to quickly order 30+ pairs and have them personally delivered in time for the game. It must have been good luck, as we also had to play at Kyle Field and eventually the victorious championship finale at Texas Stadium. (Rockdale, 1976 AA)

Ah, the good old days.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 09:42:07 am »
I remember having to go to one of his stores to be fitted for 'artificial turf football shoes' after we made the regionals and had to play at Baylor stadium.  His store went out of it's way to quickly order 30+ pairs and have them personally delivered in time for the game. It must have been good luck, as we also had to play at Kyle Field and eventually the victorious championship finale at Texas Stadium. (Rockdale, 1976 AA)

Ah, the good old days.

RIP Rooster.

you are from Rockdale or you played Rockdale?

boy, do i have a painful Rockdale story.

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 09:46:33 am »
I was a lowly sophomore bench warmer on the Rockdale squad that year. Still, the playoff run and finally winning state was one of the best experiences of my life.

Painful eh? I gotta hear this.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 09:52:54 am »
Rick Cantu has a nice write-up. Best wishes to his entire family.

Great quote from the UT men's track coach: "He's one of our real treasures. The number of lives he's influenced in a positive way is staggering. What a wonderful life he lived." RIP, Rooster.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 10:02:35 am »
RIP, Rooster.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008, 10:16:57 am »
One of the best human beings I have ever met.  It started at one of his stores and then on several other occasions at group gatherings.  The kind of person that you just prop your chin up with both of your hands, shut up and just listen to for days.  Great stories, great philosophies and what a way to take life by the hands and live it to its fullest.  He touched so many lives, and really doubt that you could find someone that he didn't consider a "friend".  Sad to see him go, and I'm a better person for the times that I was able to be around him.

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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2008, 10:24:54 am »
I was a lowly sophomore bench warmer on the Rockdale squad that year. Still, the playoff run and finally winning state was one of the best experiences of my life.

Painful eh? I gotta hear this.

during the summer after my sophomore year at Austin High, i played American Legion baseball, and my team was very good. so good, in fact, that we reached the State Tournament and played Rockdale in the opening game. the morning of the game, the Austin paper had a big story about the young AHS hurler (me) who was 9-0 with a 0.00 ERA. Rockdale had the Laurence brothers and a couple of other noteworthies, but that would be no problem for the Wunderkind, right? wrong. the leadoff guy hit my first pitch about 900 feet, and it got worse. they hung about 9 earned runs on me, and i had one of those "what took you so long" moments when the coach finally came to get me. i remember thinking ruefully that they must not have read my press clippings.

my consolation was that it was a double elimination tournament, and i beat them later in the tournament to send them home.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2008, 11:01:52 am »
Great tale Jim. Glad you got revenge in the later game.

I just moved to Rockdale from Grand Jct. Colorado the summer before my soph year, so I didn't know any of the history. I do remember that two-a-days in August almost killed me, but I toughed it out and the reward was worth it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2008, 11:09:54 am »
during the summer after my sophomore year at Austin High, i played American Legion baseball, and my team was very good. so good, in fact, that we reached the State Tournament and played Rockdale in the opening game. the morning of the game, the Austin paper had a big story about the young AHS hurler (me) who was 9-0 with a 0.00 ERA. Rockdale had the Laurence brothers and a couple of other noteworthies, but that would be no problem for the Wunderkind, right? wrong. the leadoff guy hit my first pitch about 900 feet, and it got worse. they hung about 9 earned runs on me, and i had one of those "what took you so long" moments when the coach finally came to get me. i remember thinking ruefully that they must not have read my press clippings.

my consolation was that it was a double elimination tournament, and i beat them later in the tournament to send them home.

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2008, 11:31:07 am »
Ronnie and Donnie Laurence were legendary Rockdale Tigers.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2008, 02:25:48 pm »
during the summer after my sophomore year at Austin High, i played American Legion baseball, and my team was very good. so good, in fact, that we reached the State Tournament and played Rockdale in the opening game. the morning of the game, the Austin paper had a big story about the young AHS hurler (me) who was 9-0 with a 0.00 ERA. Rockdale had the Laurence brothers and a couple of other noteworthies, but that would be no problem for the Wunderkind, right? wrong. the leadoff guy hit my first pitch about 900 feet, and it got worse. they hung about 9 earned runs on me, and i had one of those "what took you so long" moments when the coach finally came to get me. i remember thinking ruefully that they must not have read my press clippings.

my consolation was that it was a double elimination tournament, and i beat them later in the tournament to send them home.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2008, 02:32:03 pm »
We need these stories weekly, at least.

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 02:36:14 pm »
We need these stories weekly, at least.

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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2008, 02:46:51 pm »
Sheesh, how many times do you think he got shelled?

once that summer.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2008, 02:48:15 pm »
once that summer...at band camp...

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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2008, 03:12:11 pm »
once that summer...at band camp...


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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 05:20:32 am »
Sheesh, how many times do you think he got shelled?


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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2008, 06:22:47 am »

Sneakin' Sally Through The Alley???

Damn.  A closet Robert Palmer fan?  Or Allen Toussaint?

Anyway, thanks for the memories.

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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2008, 08:29:53 am »
We need these stories weekly, at least.


My favorite Jim story is the "Tom Paciorek Affair".
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2008, 09:48:36 am »

My favorite Jim story is the "Tom Paciorek Affair".

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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2008, 10:02:23 am »

My favorite Jim story is the "Tom Paciorek Affair".

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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2008, 10:49:08 am »
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I'll let Jim give the details, if he's up to it, but here are the Cliff Notes:  In the biggest game of the year, Jim pitched his guts out for 8+ shutout innings, was lifted in the 9th with a 2-run lead only to see the bullpen give it up.  A pitching tragedy of Haddixian proportions.
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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2008, 10:52:31 am »
I'll let Jim give the details, if he's up to it, but here are the Cliff Notes:  In the biggest game of the year, Jim pitched his guts out for 8+ shutout innings, was lifted in the 9th with a 2-run lead only to see the bullpen give it up.  A pitching tragedy of Haddixian proportions.

i need to be able to attach the newspaper account. i'll break down trying to type it. Fate, Falk and Paciorek converted the greatest day of my athletic life into the worst.
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« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2008, 11:21:56 am »
i need to be able to attach the newspaper account. i'll break down trying to type it. Fate, Falk and Paciorek converted the greatest day of my athletic life into the worst.

run it through the PDF scanner, and I can probably break it down into work with relatively few problems.
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« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2008, 02:47:18 pm »
here is the article from the day after in May of 1967. i'll answer questions through my tears. there is more to the story during Paciorek's AB, dammit:

By GEORGE BREAZEALE
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Seeing is believing, they say, but one might need a rerun of the ninth inning of Friday's Houston-Texas NCAA District Six baseball playoff game at Clark Field before the events became credible. Houston trailed, 3-0, in the top of the frame, had two out and none on base and was within one strike - that's right, one strike - of interment in the best-of-three series.

Yet the Cougars won, 4-3, to gain their first berth in the College World Series since 1953. And in winning they had to weather so many crises that a general inertia prevailed on both sides after the final out.

Buried in the wake of the stinging loss for Texas -- coach Bibb Falk's final game at the helm - --- was one of the most magnificent pitching performances in recent years by a Longhorn. Senior righthander Jimmy Raup, possibly the only man in Austin who thought he could go nine innings, hurled a superb two-hitter for 8 2-3 frames, facing only 30 batters and never allowing a UH runner past first.
But the 27th out, the one which would have given Texas its 12th trip to the CWS at Omaha, hung up there somewhere just out of reach until too late.

Even after Houston's unbelievable comeback, when it three times overcame two-strike burdens, Falk's last team made a superb effort to tie it up. But it was a Cougar day. Pinch runner Doug Fell was thrown out at the plate trying to score from second on outfielder Pat Brown's single up the middle and the last chance had passed up the Southwest Conference co-champions, who finished their season at 17-11, giving Falk a final won-lost mark of 477-177 for 25 years.

And now ... look at the bizarre rerun of the Houston ninth.
Coog first baseman Ken Hebert led off, tried to bunt his way on, but Raup threw him out. Third baseman George Cantu lifted a high fly just behind second and shortstop Jimmy Hunt gobbled it up.

Then up came the batting terror of the playoff series - outfielder Tom Paciorek, who had come into the final game with seven hits in nine trips. But now he was zero for three. Raup ran the count to 2-2 - and then Paciorek sent a bleeder down the third base line for a single. Outfielder Bo Burris lined a hit to left center and second baseman Ronnie Baker doubled on the left field slope, scoring both runners. That was all for Raup. Falk summoned junior righthander Al. Clements to pitch to shortstop Art Toombs. The count went to 3-2, and then Toombs walked.

Next up was catcher Chico Silman. And again, maddeningly, the count was 3-2. Clements came in with a low fastball, and Silman tripled high on the left field cliff to score Baker and Toombs with the runs which wrote finish to the Longhorns. Southpaw Gary Gressett then relieved loser Clements and got Walter (Bubba) Hill, the winning pitcher, on a tap to short.

Texas made a bold bid. Catcher James Scheschuk grounded to third but Gressett's hopper to Baker got away for an error and the Horn pitcher made it all the way to second. And then second baseman Don Johnson was on with a walk.

Outfielder George Nauert swung late on a Hill offering and flied to left. That brought up Brown. On a 2-2 pitch he sizzled a hopper through the middle. Fell, running for Gressett, tried to come all the way in, but Toombs picked up the ball, fired to Silman and Fell was an easy out, sliding in.

Raup, used almost exclusively in relief this season, got scoring support in the first inning. Nauert walked, Brown doubled and first baseman Bob Snoddy scored Nauert with a hit up the middle. Then third baseman Minton White's blooper to left center brought in Brown, but further damage was averted when Snoddy was thrown out at the plate trying to score on shortstop Jimmy Hunt's single to right.

Snoddy 's double and White's second hit to left set up outfielder Kelly Scott's sacrifice fly for another run in the third, but White later was trapped in a rundown between third and home when Hebert erred on Hunt's hopper.

That 3-0 lead wasn't substantial enough. Reliefer Larry Stitcher extricated the `Coogs from that third inning and  held off the 'Horns until departing for a pinch hitter in the eighth. Then Hill came on to do the rest.

"There are just some games that aren't in the books for you to win," White, who led all the hitters with three safeties, said. "This was one of them."

Maybe he was right. A disconsolate Raup thought so. "I still had my stuff in the ninth," he said. "All those pitches they hit were good ones. I was using the same ones I got them out with before. But this time they didn't hit them to anybody."

Falk, heading to the dressing room showers for the last time, was philosophic. "Some days you try things and they work," he said. "Other days you try and they don't."


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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2008, 03:38:06 pm »
here is the article from the day after in May of 1967. i'll answer questions through my tears. there is more to the story during Paciorek's AB, dammit


Damn. That's just painful to read.

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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2008, 03:49:00 pm »

Damn. That's just painful to read.

i could think about it every day if i allowed myself to wallow. i had--or should have had--Paciorek out three times in his AB. Falk brought in a 3B who was learning to pitch instead of our all-SWC ace, who was ready and who would have retired the side on three pitches. why he did that i will never, ever understand.

actually, i am very proud of how i pitched, but not getting that last out will torment me forever.
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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2008, 04:19:55 pm »
i could think about it every day if i allowed myself to wallow. i had--or should have had--Paciorek out three times in his AB. Falk brought in a 3B who was learning to pitch instead of our all-SWC ace, who was ready and who would have retired the side on three pitches. why he did that i will never, ever understand.

actually, i am very proud of how i pitched, but not getting that last out will torment me forever.

Give yourself a break.  You pitched very well at a very high level--not many can say that.  Of course, had you not stayed out all night before cavorting with those flappers and drinking bathtub gin, you'd have had it in the bag.
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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2008, 04:30:27 pm »
Good point
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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2008, 05:19:54 pm »
Give yourself a break.  You pitched very well at a very high level--not many can say that.  Of course, had you not stayed out all night before cavorting with those flappers and drinking bathtub gin, you'd have had it in the bag.

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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2008, 05:42:08 pm »
Good read, Jim. Sorry it didn't work out better for you. I'm sure Bob Knepper can relate to that 9th. BTW, Bo Burris I remember as a pretty fair Veer QB for the Coogs.

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« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2008, 05:52:25 pm »
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That's correct.  We also would've accepted "killing Ostro-Goth hordes and drinking mead."

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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2008, 06:04:20 pm »
incredible story, jim.  how did you deal with it at the time?


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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2008, 07:28:45 pm »
incredible story, jim.  how did you deal with it at the time?



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« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2008, 09:48:28 pm »
i could think about it every day if i allowed myself to wallow. i had--or should have had--Paciorek out three times in his AB. Falk brought in a 3B who was learning to pitch instead of our all-SWC ace, who was ready and who would have retired the side on three pitches. why he did that i will never, ever understand.

actually, i am very proud of how i pitched, but not getting that last out will torment me forever.


What jumped out of that article for me was not so much that the Cougars finally figured you out in the 9th, as they finally figured out how to start using the fucking geography of Clark Field to their advantage.  "Doubled on the left field slope. . . Tripled high on the left field cliff. . . "  Falk would've done as well to bring a excavation crew with a backhoe as Al Clements.

Great -- and thankfully not ultimately tragic -- story.

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« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2008, 09:56:20 pm »
Thanks for sharing that story.   Had to be painful.
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Re: for OWA Longhorns
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2008, 10:39:36 pm »
incredible story, jim.  how did you deal with it at the time?

i was crushed. part of that was my having grown up in Austin, dreaming of playing some sport for the Longhorns. part of it was being so close and having had more than one chance to get the third out with Paciorek. part of it was that we should have scored 6-7 runs and won easily. part of it was the suddenness; after Paciorek beat out the dribbler to 3rd, i only threw three more pitches, and they had two runs. part of it was my feeling that i let my team and coach down. part of it was the magnitude of the game: the CWS was on the line, and loser stays home. part of it was that no one thought i could win that game, and in fact, i didn't.

i also was mad--mad at Falk for taking me out, madder at his not making a defensive substitution in RF in the 9th, maddest at who he brought in to relieve me. besides that, i was mad at myself for not closing it out. i had been the closer all year, and i could not close my own damn game.

i was sad for quite some time but only was disconsolate immediately after the game. gradually the sadness became "dammit, why did that have to happen," and i could take some pride in what i did for 8 2/3 and 2 strikes. i was so damn close.

i very much identified with Knepper's game in '86, and i wrote him a letter about it and mine. he wrote a nice reply that i still have somewhere.
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Re: for OWA Longhorns
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2008, 05:41:11 am »
I always liked the way RP rhymed Julia with peculiar.

Just trying to find something to do with my time....


Well, she was a strain on his eyes-es

Though, full of surprises.