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« on: January 03, 2008, 01:02:25 pm »
Is there a chance for the Rocket's third stage in pinstripes? says Hank "The Goodbye Girl" Steinbrenner. "I'm not signing Clemens,"

Steinbrenner said he had not spoken to Clemens since the release of the Mitchell Report, but there's a reason for that. "I don't know him, really," Steinbrenner said. "Our paths didn't really cross. Never did."
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2008, 01:15:54 pm »
Is there a chance for the Rocket's third stage in pinstripes? says Hank "The Goodbye Girl" Steinbrenner. "I'm not signing Clemens,"
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And they also wont resign Alex Rodriguez if he opts out.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 01:16:14 pm »
Is there a chance for the Rocket's third stage in pinstripes? says Hank "The Goodbye Girl" Steinbrenner. "I'm not signing Clemens,"


So... that means he's signing him, right? Isn't that the same tactic he used with A-Rod?
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 01:16:46 pm »
Should the emphasis be on the "I'm" part of that statement?  George could still sign him.  As could Cashman, I assume.

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 01:24:04 pm »
So... that means he's signing him, right? Isn't that the same tactic he used with A-Rod?

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 01:33:00 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 01:53:00 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 03:52:37 pm »
According to WFAN, Clemens will state in his 60 Minutes interview that McNamee shot him up with B12 and Lidocaine but not steroids or HGH.  Ridiculous.     
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 03:55:27 pm »
According to WFAN, Clemens will state in his 60 Minutes interview that McNamee shot him up with B12 and Lidocaine but not steroids or HGH.  Ridiculous.     

Why the fuck would anyone inject their arse with a dental anesthetic and a vitamin that can be taken orally?
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2008, 03:58:32 pm »
Why the fuck would anyone inject their arse with a dental anesthetic and a vitamin that can be taken orally?

He claims that it was all for his joints, but as Mike Francesca points out, you get shot in the particular joint, not in the ass.  Clemens is going to look idiotic.  So is Mike Wallace.  Apparently, after Clemens denies taking HGH and steroids, Wallace says "swear?" and Clemens answers "I swear."
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2008, 04:08:41 pm »
He claims that it was all for his joints, but as Mike Francesca points out, you get shot in the particular joint, not in the ass.  Clemens is going to look idiotic.  So is Mike Wallace.  Apparently, after Clemens denies taking HGH and steroids, Wallace says "swear?" and Clemens answers "I swear."

Awesome. Was it a pinky swear? No crossies, no takebacks?
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2008, 04:10:25 pm »
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3179745

Of course he has to hype it up and come out on 60 minutes.  "the appropriate time" = when he can whore himself for the most media attention

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2008, 04:16:53 pm »
He claims that it was all for his joints, but as Mike Francesca points out, you get shot in the particular joint, not in the ass.  Clemens is going to look idiotic.  So is Mike Wallace.  Apparently, after Clemens denies taking HGH and steroids, Wallace says "swear?" and Clemens answers "I swear."

Lidocaine is used topically for inflammation, injected locally as an anesthetic and intravenously for arrhythmia.  I think it also requires a prescription.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2008, 04:17:53 pm »
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Roger Clemens says he was injected with "Lidocaine and B-12" and not steroids or human growth hormone by former trainer Brian McNamee

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Clemens said in the video, released on Dec. 23. "I did not provide Brian McNamee with any drugs to inject into my body."

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2008, 04:22:07 pm »
"Let me be clear, the answer is no.  I did not use steroids or human growth hormone, and I've never done so,"
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2008, 04:24:26 pm »
"But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people."

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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2008, 04:26:59 pm »
The "He told me is was to boost my immune system" vitamin B12 card has now been played.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2008, 04:30:33 pm »
Why the fuck would anyone inject their arse with a dental anesthetic and a vitamin that can be taken orally?

Maybe he doesn't realize how tasty a handful of Flintstone's vitamins can be.

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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2008, 04:30:44 pm »
"But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people."

In my opinion, the number of words used in a statement is in direct correlation to the dishonesty of that statement.  Telling the truth takes very few words.

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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2008, 04:39:13 pm »
Lidocaine is used topically for inflammation, injected locally as an anesthetic...

Maybe he had some bad hemorrhoid issues. Like George Brett that one time.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2008, 04:43:09 pm »
He claims that it was all for his joints, but as Mike Francesca points out, you get shot in the particular joint, not in the ass.  Clemens is going to look idiotic.  So is Mike Wallace.  Apparently, after Clemens denies taking HGH and steroids, Wallace says "swear?" and Clemens answers "I swear."

Having Wallace do this "interview" seriously undermines 60 Minutes.  Wallace is a big-time Yankee fan, a frequest guest of Steinbrenner, and an avowed Clemens fan.
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 04:53:44 pm »
Maybe he had some bad hemorrhoid issues.

I guess that solves the mystery of, between he and AP, who pitched and who caught.
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2008, 05:51:34 pm »
Having Wallace do this "interview" seriously undermines 60 Minutes.  Wallace is a big-time Yankee fan, a frequest guest of Steinbrenner, and an avowed Clemens fan.

There's a long and proud tradition of 60 Minutes undermining itself.  Why should they stop now?
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2008, 06:27:25 pm »
The most interesting thing about all of this to me is that everywhere you look you are told that the 60 Minutes segment was supposedly taped at "Clemens' home in Katy." He lives in the Memorial area, yeah?
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2008, 08:56:18 pm »
Maybe he had some bad hemorrhoid issues. Like George Brett that one time.

I remember watching him interviewed by I think it was Bryant Gumble after he had missed some games because of the hemi issue and Gumble asked him about it.  Brett replied "It's all behind me now". 
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2008, 07:28:30 am »
The most interesting thing about all of this to me is that everywhere you look you are told that the 60 Minutes segment was supposedly taped at "Clemens' home in Katy." He lives in the Memorial area, yeah?

Yeah. To my knowledge he has never technically lived in Katy Proper or the Katy Area. Clemens lived in the Green Trails neighborhood on the East side of Fry Road, which is adjacent to what's considered the Katy Area. However, the address for Green Trails is Houston, or at least it is today, it might have been considered part of the Katy Area when he actually lived there.
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2008, 08:13:49 am »
Clemens lived in the Green Trails neighborhood on the East side of Fry Road, which is adjacent to what's considered the Katy Area. However, the address for Green Trails is Houston, or at least it is today, it might have been considered part of the Katy Area when he actually lived there.

I lived there circa mid 80's.  It had a Katy mailing address then, but was actually between the Katy and Houston city limits.
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2008, 08:48:41 am »
The Dugout is all over DQ's latest denial.

I too fail to see how his house (inside the Beltway) qualifies as "Katy".  Wouldn't his kids have gone to one of the Katy high schools instead of Memorial? 
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2008, 09:03:38 am »
The most interesting thing about all of this to me is that everywhere you look you are told that the 60 Minutes segment was supposedly taped at "Clemens' home in Katy." He lives in the Memorial area, yeah?

Katy has grown so far eastwards that it's annexed Bunker Hill Village.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2008, 09:08:59 am »
The Dugout is all over DQ's latest denial.

Not one of their better efforts.
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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2008, 09:20:58 am »
Not one of their better efforts.

yeah ... pretty lame.
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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2008, 09:58:18 am »
The Dugout is all over DQ's latest denial.



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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2008, 10:39:46 am »
Roger Clemens has no one else to blame but himself if he went against his advisors if they told him from the very beginning "just stay quiet and let the commissioner and Sen. Mitchell run this circus for the sake of the media and congress.  After a few months, it'll be all over and we will all move on."

The more Clemens talks, the more it becomes indictable and damning evidence that he did something that should at minimum convict him in the court of public opinion and at maximum call into play some legal issues for himself.  He has basically invited the problems plaguing Barry Bonds into his own front door and now he's probably open the door wide open and invited the whole circus right into his living room.

Very stupid move from the beginning.

Clemens should not listen to the media chiding him that he should talk nor anyone else.  Mitchell's report was not intended for the purposes of exposing the witches amongst the MLB landscape.  It was intended as a show of strength on the MLB's part and a desire to clean up it's own house and keep the congress at bay.  So they used players names... it was necessary.  The wild card is the media wanting to go further with this story, which is intended to go away, not to indict anyone.  Clemens allowed it to be page one story as it were and now he's got what he wanted or perhaps did not understand he would invite in the first place: A huge circus, all he needs to provide now is the bread and he will have satisfied the masses.

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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2008, 10:45:34 am »
Roger Clemens has no one else to blame but himself if he went against his advisors if they told him from the very beginning "just stay quiet and let the commissioner and Sen. Mitchell run this circus for the sake of the media and congress.  After a few months, it'll be all over and we will all move on."

The more Clemens talks, the more it becomes indictable and damning evidence that he did something that should at minimum convict him in the court of public opinion and at maximum call into play some legal issues for himself.  He has basically invited the problems plaguing Barry Bonds into his own front door and now he's probably open the door wide open and invited the whole circus right into his living room.

Very stupid move from the beginning.

Clemens should not listen to the media chiding him that he should talk nor anyone else.  Mitchell's report was not intended for the purposes of exposing the witches amongst the MLB landscape.  It was intended as a show of strength on the MLB's part and a desire to clean up it's own house and keep the congress at bay.  So they used players names... it was necessary.  The wild card is the media wanting to go further with this story, which is intended to go away, not to indict anyone.  Clemens allowed it to be page one story as it were and now he's got what he wanted or perhaps did not understand he would invite in the first place: A huge circus, all he needs to provide now is the bread and he will have satisfied the masses.

And I say, fuck him.  He has used the media to his advantage in the past.  He just can't seem to help himself.  What goes around.....

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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2008, 11:06:42 am »
And I say, fuck him.  He has used the media to his advantage in the past.  He just can't seem to help himself.  What goes around.....

"The reason we did this spot was to feed the demanding beast," Hardin said, referring to the media.
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That was Hardin's excuse about the YouTube video.  Aside from being the classic, "I'm an idiot so I'll blame the media", it does highlight Clemens' achilles heel.  He's been able to say whatever he wants whenever he wants for so long that he thinks he's immune from criticism.  His statement “I am disappointed that my 25 years in public life have apparently not earned me the benefit of the doubt..." is similarly revealing. Link Out of context, but in the same vein, Lance Berkman has the same problem.  He thinks every thought he has is worth sharing.  He's been a prodigy for so long that he, and his immediate circle, believes each hiccup is a gem.  It's why we stick our children's kindergarten doodles on the fridge.  It's why we prod our children, who we think prodigies, to say "hi" on the telephone to our friends.  Trouble is, these types think the population is fascinated by their fridge doodles. ("Say hi Lance, say hi Lance, Lance say hi..." ad infinitum.  The radio personalities who encourage this behavior should be ashamed of themselves.)   

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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2008, 11:50:01 am »
Yeah. To my knowledge he has never technically lived in Katy Proper or the Katy Area. Clemens lived in the Green Trails neighborhood on the East side of Fry Road, which is adjacent to what's considered the Katy Area. However, the address for Green Trails is Houston, or at least it is today, it might have been considered part of the Katy Area when he actually lived there.

I would consider where he lived then Katy. But the current place he moved to in 1992 is in Piney Point Village.

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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2008, 01:14:47 pm »
"The reason we did this spot was to feed the demanding beast," Hardin said, referring to the media.
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That was Hardin's excuse about the YouTube video.  Aside from being the classic, "I'm an idiot so I'll blame the media", it does highlight Clemens' achilles heel.  He's been able to say whatever he wants whenever he wants for so long that he thinks he's immune from criticism.  His statement “I am disappointed that my 25 years in public life have apparently not earned me the benefit of the doubt..." is similarly revealing. Link Out of context, but in the same vein, Lance Berkman has the same problem.  He thinks every thought he has is worth sharing.  He's been a prodigy for so long that he, and his immediate circle, believes each hiccup is a gem.  It's why we stick our children's kindergarten doodles on the fridge.  It's why we prod our children, who we think prodigies, to say "hi" on the telephone to our friends.  Trouble is, these types think the population is fascinated by their fridge doodles. ("Say hi Lance, say hi Lance, Lance say hi..." ad infinitum.  The radio personalities who encourage this behavior should be ashamed of themselves.)   

Here is the thing, let the media spin in their own vitrol for however long it takes them to no longer be self-amused.  Usually, it's about as long as it takes a a small child to be distracted by another set of blinking lights.  Unless it's the small handful of investigative reporters who want to get a book deal (see: Shadows, Game of), the whole thing would blow over and be done with because that is what this whole circus called the Mitchell Report was supposed to do.

The MLB acted like it needed to.
Mitchell helped them with his report (and recommendation of "move ahead, don't look back")
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The media gets to chew on a story for a few weeks, maybe a month tops until the fans/readership/viewing audience tells them "Enough already, can we get *back* to the game instead of this bullshit!".

And that would be it.  Finito, over, done deal.  But nooooooo... Roger Clemens decides to talk and it's now got a life of it's own.  He won't be able to control the media like he thinks.  This is the one time the media is going to hit homerun after homerun off of his fastball and he's going to look in the mirror one morning and ask "What happened... I used to have these guys eating out of my hand?  Damnit!"

Bad move Rocket, your ego bought you a whole mess of crap you were not prepared to take on, especially with the media who loves a great story.  Luckily you provided it for them.

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2008, 01:35:47 pm »
...Bad move Rocket, your ego bought you a whole mess of crap you were not prepared to take on, especially with the media who loves a great story.  Luckily you provided it for them.

Tejada did the smart thing, he headed south to play baseball like he always does.  By the time he gets back they'll be in spring training with other things to talk about.

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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2008, 01:37:03 pm »
Tejada did the smart thing, he headed south to play baseball like he always does.  By the time he gets back they'll be in spring training with other things to talk about.

Eggszactly.  Why did any of the players react to the Mitchell Report?  Media pressure?  Perhaps, but you weather that mini-storm and ride it out.  Best. Method. Ever.

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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2008, 01:42:21 pm »
Eggszactly.  Why did any of the players react to the Mitchell Report?  Media pressure?  Perhaps, but you weather that mini-storm and ride it out.  Best. Method. Ever.

McTaggart blogged,

"Tejada is in the Domincan and the Chronicle is trying to get hold of him. His agent hasn't returned any of my calls and because he's in another country, it has complicated things. If he wanted to release a statement or appear on 60 Minutes, he could do so. We will hear from him before too long."

Not likely.



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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2008, 01:43:11 pm »
Tejada did the smart thing, he headed south to play baseball like he always does.  By the time he gets back they'll be in spring training with other things to talk about.

Speaking of which, he has started playing down there now, just as his team made the playoffs.  Can you say Ringer?
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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2008, 02:38:57 pm »
McTaggart blogged,

"Tejada is in the Domincan and the Chronicle is trying to get hold of him. His agent hasn't returned any of my calls and because he's in another country, it has complicated things. If he wanted to release a statement or appear on 60 Minutes, he could do so. We will hear from him before too long."

Not likely.




I heard an interview of Joe Torre the other day.  The talk show host had him on because of a golf tournament he was sponsoring.  Obviously, the media guy took care of the stuff dealing with the golf tournament rather quickly and decided it's time to put Joe Torre on the spot in terms of Roger Clemens.  Torre did well to say the right things, cliche if you will (I'm sad that his name was in the report, he's a great teammate and that is the Roger I know... yadda, yadda, yadda).  That wasn't what the show host wanted of course, so he kept pressing the issue.

Finally Joe Torre said this (paraphrase) "I think it's time we move on.  We (the MLB, players, agents, players union) need to learn from Senator Mitchell's report and move.  It's unhealthy for our sport to continue to dwell on what has been done in the past, it's time to learn from it and do what is healthy... make changes and play baseball".

The show host shut up after that.

I imagine most if not all the players, agents, managers, MLB personnel and anyone involved in the sport at this level will answer the same from now.  "Let's move on".  The media will have to hear it a few times to get the message, if they want a witch hunt, they'll have to do it without the players, union, agents, MLB or anyone else involved in the game helping them do so.
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Re: Robert Clemens? Never met him.
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2008, 07:39:13 am »
I heard an interview of Joe Torre the other day.  The talk show host had him on because of a golf tournament he was sponsoring.  Obviously, the media guy took care of the stuff dealing with the golf tournament rather quickly and decided it's time to put Joe Torre on the spot in terms of Roger Clemens.  Torre did well to say the right things, cliche if you will (I'm sad that his name was in the report, he's a great teammate and that is the Roger I know... yadda, yadda, yadda).  That wasn't what the show host wanted of course, so he kept pressing the issue.

Finally Joe Torre said this (paraphrase) "I think it's time we move on.  We (the MLB, players, agents, players union) need to learn from Senator Mitchell's report and move.  It's unhealthy for our sport to continue to dwell on what has been done in the past, it's time to learn from it and do what is healthy... make changes and play baseball".

The show host shut up after that.

I imagine most if not all the players, agents, managers, MLB personnel and anyone involved in the sport at this level will answer the same from now.  "Let's move on".  The media will have to hear it a few times to get the message, if they want a witch hunt, they'll have to do it without the players, union, agents, MLB or anyone else involved in the game helping them do so.

Except for Roger, he can't move on.  His ego wont let him.

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Re: Robert Clemens? Never met him.
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2008, 08:24:43 am »
Except for Roger, he can't move on.  His ego wont let him.

Possible excepts from Mike Wallace's interview with Roger tonight on 60 Minutes.

"I don't even have a butt. Mike, I ask you, how could that lying rapist inject me with anything, if I have no butt? If it weren't against all rules of common decency, I'd drop my drawers right now to prove I have no butt. It's all fake padding. It looks real but it's fake. Even if someone did inject me, and even if that person was almost indicted on rape charges, it's all padding back there, so nothing would have entered my body. It's like in Cuckoo's Nest when McMurphy acts like he swallows those pills but then later he spits them out. It's not the same as actually taking steroids."

"I'm a family man but I'm also a workout freak. When I'm not giving lectures on working out, or playing baseball or golf or spending time with my wonderful family, I'm working out. One day I asked that Brian guy if he get me a little stereo, you know, the kids call 'em I-pods. I wanted to rock my workouts. Next thing I know he's giving me a shot of B-12." 
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