Lidge to DL - strained oblique

[homer]

Brad Lidge is going to miss significant time in the near future after suffering a strained oblique muscle in his left side. He'll likely go on the disabled list following Tuesday's game, at which time the Astros will announce a corresponding move to fill his spot on the 25-man roster.

Lidge suffered the injury during his last outing Friday in a relief appearance against the Seattle Mariners. He could be activated from the DL on June 30, but it's more likely that he'll be out for longer than the 15 required days.

...

Dan Wheeler will resume the closer's role

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070619&content_id=2036528&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

[remy]

Well...

Crap.

[Reuben]

If I believed in third-party jinxes, this article might be a good example...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2908913

Currently the lead on espn's baseball page.

[Duder]

Lame.

[otterjb]

That sucks.

There's Oswalt, Berkman, Lee, Pence and Everett. Every other Astro is expendable. Except, maybe, Brad Lidge.

[homer]

Original article updated: Randolph up.

[Hornstros]

Lidge just started to learn how to pitch again.  Now he can't throw for 1-2 months?!?  Ouch.  We're gonna have to go through this shit again in August

On a side note...at least Purpura stayed true to his word.  He said a couple days ago that Randolph would be called up if there was a major injury to a right hander in the pen.

[Phil_in_CS]

Original article updated: Randolph up.

Good for him. I hope they hang on to him this time; I can't see how he cleared waivers the last time he was sent back.

[JimR]

Foggy owes Phil a BIG apology.

[matadorph]

Foggy owes Phil a BIG apology.

And every whiny dumbass on the Chronblogs.

[Foghorn]

Foggy owes Phil a BIG apology.

Horseshit.  Wheeler would have been a better option.  Leaving Bork in was a better option.  ANything but Miller versus a right hander was a better option.

[Taras Bulba]

His oblique has never been the same since the Pujols homer.

[JimR]

Horseshit.  Wheeler would have been a better option.  Leaving Bork in was a better option.  ANything but Miller versus a right hander was a better option.

nope, especially now we know Lidge was not available.

[Limey]

His oblique has never been the same since the Pujols homer.

Makes you wonder why a man of his age is having this kind of trouble.

[Hornstros]

His oblique has never been the same since the Pujols homer.

Does this mean that Jason Lane has had a strained oblique for the past season and a half?

[Arky Vaughan]

His oblique has never been the same since the Pujols homer.

I bet he's great trade bait now. Imagine him in a Red Sox or Indians uniform on their DL.

[Foghorn]

nope, especially now we know Lidge was not available.

No way. I'd rather have White, Wheeler, Bork, Jason Lane, Chester Charge, Jose Lima, Paris Hilton or ANYONE ELSE but Miller versus a RHB.

Miller should not face a right handed batter in 9th inning of a tie game with the winning run on base.  EVER.

[JimR]

No way. I'd rather have White, Wheeler, Bork, Jason Lane, Chester Charge, Jose Lima, Paris Hilton or ANYONE ELSE but Miller versus a RHB.

Miller should not face a right handed batter in 9th inning of a tie game with the winning run on base.  EVER.

disagree

[Noe]

Lidge just started to learn how to pitch again.  Now he can't throw for 1-2 months?!?  Ouch.  We're gonna have to go through this shit again in August

On a side note...at least Purpura stayed true to his word.  He said a couple days ago that Randolph would be called up if there was a major injury to a right hander in the pen.

Because he already knew that Lidge was probably going to be out when he said it.  BTW - where you getting the 1-2 months from?

[Hornstros]

BTW - where you getting the 1-2 months from?

According to Dick Justice he's gonna be shelfed from just about all physical activity to rest for a few weeks.  Then i figure he'll have to work his arm back into shape.  Plus this is the type of injury that could take longer to come back from than the expected time.  2 months is definetely a little bit of elaboration...for delivery purposes of course

[JimR]

According to Dick Justice he's gonna be shelfed from just about all physical activity to rest for a few weeks.  Then i figure he'll have to work his arm back into shape.  Plus this is the type of injury that could take longer to come back from than the expected time.  2 months is definetely a little bit of elaboration...for delivery purposes of course

Rick White had the same injury.

[pravata]

Does this mean that Jason Lane has had a strained oblique for the past season and a half?

The only thing Jason Lane has strained is patience.

[MusicMan]

According to Dick Justice he's gonna be shelfed from just about all physical activity to rest for a few weeks.  Then i figure he'll have to work his arm back into shape.  Plus this is the type of injury that could take longer to come back from than the expected time.  2 months is definetely a little bit of elaboration...for delivery purposes of course

I feel much better now.  Given this, he's almost guaranteed to be activated as soon as the 15 days is up.

[Noe]

According to Dick Justice he's gonna be shelfed from just about all physical activity to rest for a few weeks.  Then i figure he'll have to work his arm back into shape.  Plus this is the type of injury that could take longer to come back from than the expected time.  2 months is definetely a little bit of elaboration...for delivery purposes of course

*PHew*, thanks.  I thought you had some info we all needed to know!  Don't scare me like that!!!

[Ty in Tampa]

According to Dick Justice he's gonna be shelfed from just about all physical activity to rest for a few weeks.  Then i figure he'll have to work his arm back into shape.  Plus this is the type of injury that could take longer to come back from than the expected time.  2 months is definetely a little bit of elaboration...for delivery purposes of course

So, from your ass.

[Noe]

Rick White had the same injury.

His was a belly strain, but listed officially as a strained oblique.  But when I heard about Lidge's injury, I thought of White as well.  As I remember, White came back in about two and half weeks.

[Hornstros]

So, from your ass.

Exactly

[Taras Bulba]

His was a belly strain, but listed officially as a strained oblique.  But when I heard about Lidge's injury, I thought of White as well.  As I remember, White came back in about two and half weeks.

White was placed on a strict sausage and beer diet and recovered quite nicely.  There's a lesson there.

[Ty in Tampa]

White was placed on a strict sausage and beer diet and recovered quite nicely.  There's a lesson there.

ToDo list:

Strain oblique. Check!

[pravata]

And every whiny dumbass on the Chronblogs.

Lidge did this on Friday.  Any of these mooks at the Chron start yammering on about how they've got inside information, you can safely just spit in their eye.

[homer]

Lidge did this on Friday.  Any of these mooks at the Chron start yammering on about how they've got inside information, you can safely just spit in their eye.

Shitbag Ortiz called the move to bring in Miller a 'vote of no-confidence' in Lidge and Wheeler. Reader Bill after the injury report:

Or the no confidence on Lidge could be he's hurt. Lidge was put on the DL Tuesday night after he hurt himself on Friday. Maybe if the Chronicle writers did less whining and more reporting the public would know what is going on. Jose, don't you cover the Astro's?

(Actually, I asked Garner specifically and he didn't say anything about the injury Monday night. Moreover, he admitted Tuesday that in the past if he had a dominant closer he would have used the closer instead of a situational lefthander. Garner purposely hid the injury so he could buy himself a day to see how Lidge would bounce back. But, yes, it was a vote of no-confidence for Wheeler. JJO)

http://blogs.chron.com/baseballblog/archives/2007/06/garner_gives_wh.html#comments

[pravata]

Shitbag Ortiz called the move to bring in Miller a 'vote of no-confidence' in Lidge and Wheeler. Reader Bill after the injury report:

http://blogs.chron.com/baseballblog/archives/2007/06/garner_gives_wh.html#comments

right in the eye.

[Limey]

right in the eye.

Nice weasel by JJO:  He wasn't wrong about Lidge, he just didn't know.  I tell my clients all the time when their claims aren't paid:  don't blame me, I know nothing about insurance.

[Noe]

(Actually, I asked Garner specifically and he didn't say anything about the injury Monday night. Moreover, he admitted Tuesday that in the past if he had a dominant closer he would have used the closer instead of a situational lefthander. Garner purposely hid the injury so he could buy himself a day to see how Lidge would bounce back. But, yes, it was a vote of no-confidence for Wheeler. JJO)

WOW!  This is really a shitty answer, especially about Wheeler.  Let's recount the specifics about the inning, shall we.  Borkowski (RHP) is already in and has two outs logged in the books.  Willits gets a base knock off of him, so up steps Chone Figgins who has 5 hits so far this night hitting *left handed*.

Dan Wheeler is warming up when the inning started in case Borkowski proves he can get *no one out* from the right handers he's facing.  Only Willits, a left hander, gets a knock off him.  So Garner has Miller warming up now in case he needs to get Borkowski out and have Miller face *one* batter... Chone Figgins *before* he puts in Wheeler to go get Cabrera and/or Vlad Guerrero.  That's not a couple of no-names he is saving Wheeler to go get either.

How, in heavens name, is this a vote of no-confidence by the manager?  And second to that, how is taking out one RHP pitcher justifiable by putting in another RHP and then *THAT* is not seen as a vote of no confidence in Borkowski?

I swear, they're making shite up at the Chron now a days.  They don't even watch the games for goodness sake!

[MusicMan]

Nice weasel by JJO:  He wasn't wrong about Lidge, he just didn't know.  I tell my clients all the time when their claims aren't paid:  don't blame me, I know nothing about insurance.

Oh, you missed this gem:

hearing that lidge is now on the DL with a strained oblique, do you feel like backtracking on your comment that garner has no confidence in lidge??

(No. The fact remains that he didn't have the confidence to use them that day in that key situation. Actually, I asked Garner specifically and he didn't say anything about the injury Monday night. Moreover, he admitted Tuesday that in the past if he had a dominant closer he would have used the closer instead of a situational lefthander. Garner purposely hid the injury so he could buy himself a day to see how Lidge would bounce back. I can respect that, but if he trusted Wheeler more, he would have called on him. Yes, it was a vote of no-confidence for Wheeler. JJO)

(All emphasis mine.)

Not only does he contradict himself, but he specifically indicates that not using an injured player is a vote of no confidence.

Jose de Jesus Ortiz has no place commenting on baseball.

[Foghorn]

(Actually, I asked Garner specifically and he didn't say anything about the injury Monday night. Moreover, he admitted Tuesday that in the past if he had a dominant closer he would have used the closer instead of a situational lefthander. Garner purposely hid the injury so he could buy himself a day to see how Lidge would bounce back. But, yes, it was a vote of no-confidence for Wheeler. JJO)

WOW!  This is really a shitty answer, especially about Wheeler.  Let's recount the specifics about the inning, shall we.  Borkowski (RHP) is already in and has two outs logged in the books.  Willits gets a base knock off of him, so up steps Chone Figgins who has 5 hits so far this night hitting *left handed*.

Dan Wheeler is warming up when the inning started in case Borkowski proves he can get *no one out* from the right handers he's facing.  Only Willits, a left hander, gets a knock off him.  So Garner has Miller warming up now in case he needs to get Borkowski out and have Miller face *one* batter... Chone Figgins *before* he puts in Wheeler to go get Cabrera and/or Vlad Guerrero.  That's not a couple of no-names he is saving Wheeler to go get either.

How, in heavens name, is this a vote of no-confidence by the manager?  And second to that, how is taking out one RHP pitcher justifiable by putting in another RHP and then *THAT* is not seen as a vote of no confidence in Borkowski?

I swear, they're making shite up at the Chron now a days.  They don't even watch the games for goodness sake!

See, I don't think its a vote of no-confidence in Wheeler.  I just think Garner wanted to turn Figgins around no matter what (and I strongly disagree with that).  Hell, Wheeler has been crappy lately but Miller hasn't exactly been Lights Out either.

[Noe]

The day after Lidge gave up the homerun to Mark Kotsay, JdJO wrote that he should be traded.  He tried to cover up his disdain for Lidge by saying all the right things about "A Nice guy...blah, blah, blah...", but he basically put himself in a corner that Lidge was not a closer any more and he knew the Astros were tired of him as well.

Nothing, I mean nothing... could be further from the truth than that.

[Noe]

See, I don't think its a vote of no-confidence in Wheeler.  I just think Garner wanted to turn Figgins around no matter what (and I strongly disagree with that).  Hell, Wheeler has been crappy lately but Miller hasn't exactly been Lights Out either.

RIGHT!  Even if you disagree with the move, it was not because Garner wanted to send Wheeler a message that he had no confidence in him.  That is bullshit!

[pravata]

Oh, you missed this gem:

(All emphasis mine.)

Not only does he contradict himself, but he specifically indicates that not using an injured player is a vote of no confidence.

Jose de Jesus Ortiz has no place commenting on baseball.

He should stick to calling up the players' parents and asking them how they feel. 

[JimR]

RIGHT!  Even if you disagree with the move, it was not because Garner wanted to send Wheeler a message that he had no confidence in him.  That is bullshit!

if he had used Wheeler there and been left with Miller et al. for extras, the second-guessers would have been all over him for having nothing bur losers left for extras. some days you just cannot win.

[MusicMan]

He should stick to calling up the players' parents and asking them how they feel. 

Why do you hate the players' parents?

[WulawHorn]

The day after Lidge gave up the homerun to Mark Kotsay, JdJO wrote that he should be traded.  He tried to cover up his disdain for Lidge by saying all the right things about "A Nice guy...blah, blah, blah...", but he basically put himself in a corner that Lidge was not a closer any more and he knew the Astros were tired of him as well.

Nothing, I mean nothing... could be further from the truth than that.

See that's what bother's me about shit bags like JDJO.  He knows so little that he thinks lidge should be traded b/c Pujols has made him suck. I think it would be reasonable to trade lidge if his value is high enough to get you 1 or 2 really good pieces for the future, like saltamadl;fashdpasdofiljia of the braves for example. JDJO is a knee jerk, reactionary fool.

[JaneDoe]

He should stick to calling up the players' parents and asking them how they feel. 

Ha.  I'd love to see him get beat by some player's 80 yr old grandma.

[pravata]

Why do you hate the players' parents?

Fair question.  My favorite was when he did a "thing" on his blog about some local black player that was drafted by another team (Padres maybe?).  He called the guys parents and asked them why the Astros didnt draft their son.  That piece of reportage did not make the actual paper.

[Bench]

Fair question.  My favorite was when he did a "thing" on his blog about some local black player that was drafted by another team (Padres maybe?).  He called the guys parents and asked them why the Astros didnt draft their son.  That piece of reportage did not make the actual paper.

Chris Young of the D-Backs.

[VirtualBob]

So Randolph's contract was purchased less than a week after Purp said he wanted to avoid having to put him though waivers again this season.  That means some combination of ...

1.  Lidge really is out for a long time
2.  Somebody is going to get traded
3.  Somebody else in the current bullpen is going to be optioned/dfa when Lidge comes back

Add to that the recent purp comments about people turning things around from a career perspective, and it looks like we might see some changes

[WulawHorn]

So Randolph's contract was purchased less than a week after Purp said he wanted to avoid having to put him though waivers again this season.  That means some combination of ...

1.  Lidge really is out for a long time
2.  Somebody is going to get traded
3.  Somebody else in the current bullpen is going to be optioned/dfa when Lidge comes back

Add to that the recent purp comments about people turning things around from a career perspective, and it looks like we might see some changes

I'm guessing the young man gets  a chance to prove himself, and if he does that Moehler gets dfa (absent a trade of course).

Just my sneaking suspicion

[Limey]

So Randolph's contract was purchased less than a week after Purp said he wanted to avoid having to put him though waivers again this season.  That means some combination of ...

1.  Lidge really is out for a long time
2.  Somebody is going to get traded
3.  Somebody else in the current bullpen is going to be optioned/dfa when Lidge comes back

Add to that the recent purp comments about people turning things around from a career perspective, and it looks like we might see some changes

3.  Miller.

[pravata]

Chris Young of the D-Backs.

Thank you, my eyes couldn't focus long enough to look it up. 

[homer]

I'm guessing the young man gets  a chance to prove himself, and if he does that Moehler gets dfa (absent a trade of course).

Just my sneaking suspicion

Randolph is 33. He has already had a stint in the majors that was less than spectacular.

[JimR]

Randolph is 33. He has already had a stint in the majors that was less than spectacular.

and this proves what?

this is now, and he has dominated in virtually every inning at RR. ride the wave, even if it is temporary.

[homer]

and this proves what?

this is now, and he has dominated in virtually every inning at RR. ride the wave, even if it is temporary.

that he isn't a 'young man'

[MusicMan]

From the FWIW department... Will Carroll at BP says 4-6 weeks for this degree of oblique strain, and usually on the high side.

[austro]

From the FWIW department... Will Carroll at BP says 4-6 weeks for this degree of oblique strain, and usually on the high side.

When did "strained oblique" become the trendy injury? I don't ever remember hearing about this stuff 20 years ago (or even 10), but maybe that's because the only detail we got was "he's got a hurt leg/arm/other".

[MikeyBoy]

When did "strained oblique" become the trendy injury? I don't ever remember hearing about this stuff 20 years ago (or even 10

Two words: Carbon Emissions

[Foghorn]

When did "strained oblique" become the trendy injury? I don't ever remember hearing about this stuff 20 years ago (or even 10), but maybe that's because the only detail we got was "he's got a hurt leg/arm/other".

Cuntface John Lopez says "strained oblique" is code for "shoulder injury".

[MusicMan]

Cuntface John Lopez says "strained oblique" is code for "shoulder injury".

You've got to be kidding me.  This is an epidemic of stupid, evin by Comical "standards".

[Foghorn]

You've got to be kidding me.  This is an epidemic of stupid, evin by Comical "standards".

This was from his radio show.  Started saying that for those who wanted to trade Brad Lidge, to start thinking again.  And that "forearm" is code for elbow trouble.  His cohost the little bag of shit Ted DeLoser said, "well its his oblique".  Cuntface replies with "and thats code for shoulder".

Wrong shoulder though Johnny, wrong shoulder.

[MusicMan]

This was from his radio show. 

Mmmmmmmm...... I lost ya there.  Even among the wasteland of Houston radio, John Lopez hosting his own show has to be the absolute bottom of the barrel.

[Foghorn]

Mmmmmmmm...... I lost ya there.  Even among the wasteland of Houston radio, John Lopez hosting his own show has to be the absolute bottom of the barrel.

Its quite fascinating.  The little gimp refers to Lopez as "J Money" and Lopez calls the gimp "Quagmire".  I'm assuming its from Family Guy and further assume its because the gimp has a crush on Taylor Hanson. 

Anyway, there are now 3, soon to be 4, all sports stations in Houston and they all pretty much suck.

[pravata]

This was from his radio show.  Started saying that for those who wanted to trade Brad Lidge, to start thinking again.  And that "forearm" is code for elbow trouble.  His cohost the little bag of shit Ted DeLoser said, "well its his oblique".  Cuntface replies with "and thats code for shoulder".

Wrong shoulder though Johnny, wrong shoulder.

Left is code too.  Every third time you say it, it means right.  John P. Lopez is code for "If I stuck my face in the Astros clubhouse, I'd get a fungo on the nose."

[MusicMan]

My mistake... i forgot Colin Cowherd was on the air.  He's absolute zero, it is impossible to create suck to a greater degree than that waste of carbon.

[Bench]

Its quite fascinating.  The little gimp refers to Lopez as "J Money" and Lopez calls the gimp "Quagmire".  I'm assuming its from Family Guy and further assume its because the gimp has a crush on Taylor Hanson. 

Anyway, there are now 3, soon to be 4, all sports stations in Houston and they all pretty much suck.

610 and 790 and

[MusicMan]

610 and 790 and

97.5 FM.  And soon to be 1560 AM or some other crap that John Granato is powering off a coat hanger.

[JackAstro]

Left is code too.  Every third time you say it, it means right.  John P. Lopez is code for "If I stuck my face in the Astros clubhouse, I'd get a fungo on the nose."

What a great new tool Lopez has given me - I'm writing tonight's recap entirely in code. Everything in there will be code for what actually happened. In fact, I'm going to post it before the game, just to see if anyone can crack it and figure out the final score before the game is even played.

[MusicMan]

What a great new tool Lopez has given me - I'm writing tonight's recap entirely in code. Everything in there will be code for what actually happened. In fact, I'm going to post it before the game, just to see if anyone can crack it and figure out the final score before the game is even played.

So you're just going to redirect to www.chron.com?

[matadorph]

Randolph is 33. He has already had a stint in the majors that was less than spectacular.

That may be cause for pessimism from some, but his performance for the Express this season more than offsets his past suck.

The old geezer has 57 Ks in 34 IPs with only 9 walks and a .57 WHIP. Pretty fuckin good.

[pravata]

610 and 790 and

740, the one where they broadcast the Astros games. (WRONG!) David Barron, who is quizzing the nematodes about the "quality" of Houston sports talk, lists "three stations -- KILT, KBME (790 AM) and KFNC (97.5 FM)"

[WulawHorn]

740, the one where they broadcast the Astros games.

No- he said all sports- 740 is just sometimes sports, astro centric.

I think 1560 isn't supposed to be sports its supposed to be guy radio where they talk about other things guys are interested in like Sports, girls and movies and such. Not positive on that though.

I listen to the black radio station on 1430 sometimes on the way home and I think that might be even worse than the suck that is 610 and 790 now in the morning.  I hate driving to work in the morning now.

[homer]

That may be cause for pessimism from some, but his performance for the Express this season more than offsets his past suck.

The old geezer has 57 Ks in 34 IPs with only 9 walks and a .57 WHIP. Pretty fuckin good.

I won't disagree. I was pointing out to Wulaw that he is not some kid on his way up.

[WulawHorn]

I won't disagree. I was pointing out to Wulaw that he is not some kid on his way up.

Ah, I see. Ok thanks then, didn't realize he was that old, but I really meant kid as in knee jerk reaction to anyone up from AAA.

Does not apply here.

[Ty in Tampa]

Anyway, there are now 3, soon to be 4, all sports stations in Houston and they all pretty much suck.

Honestly, are there any good sports stations anywhere? I've yet to listen to one.

[Noe]

From the FWIW department... Will Carroll at BP says 4-6 weeks for this degree of oblique strain, and usually on the high side.

Will Carroll also claimed two years ago... TWO FREAKING YEARS AGO... when Lidge was pitching well that he knew for a fact that Brad Lidge was hiding an elbow injury.

Huh?

[Foghorn]

Honestly, are there any good sports stations anywhere? I've yet to listen to one.

I think hoping for a good station in unreal, but certainly hoping for a good 3-4 hour show isn't too much to ask for.  I don't mind Palillo, I think he's the best of a bad group here in town. 

I think the folks on ESPN Radio suck but they have the name to get pretty awesome guests which can make things worth listening to.  For instance, I like Andy Katz for college basketball and Kirk Herbstreet for college football.  Jaworskie is the man for pro football.

[WulawHorn]

I think hoping for a good station in unreal, but certainly hoping for a good 3-4 hour show isn't too much to ask for.  I don't mind Palillo, I think he's the best of a bad group here in town. 

I think the folks on ESPN Radio suck but they have the name to get pretty awesome guests which can make things worth listening to.  For instance, I like Andy Katz for college basketball and Kirk Herbstreet for college football.  Jaworskie is the man for pro football.

Agreed Re- the shows.

If I was forced to listen to the radio all day (sports talk only) 3 months ago I'd go with:

John and Lance in the morning till 11:00. Jim Rome for an hour until 12:00. Dan Patrick until 3:00. Then CP until 6 and the night pervs on 610 until 10:00. Also like Doug Gotleib on ESPN Radio- but not sure if the local's pick him up or if it's just an XM thing.

[Limey]

Agreed Re- the shows.

If I was forced to listen to the radio all day (sports talk only)

...I'd blow my brains out.

[Bench]

...I'd blow my brains out.

No shit. That's no kind of life.

I've given up on that crap a long time ago. Fortunately, the Golden Triangle hosts the Big Dog 106.1, "the only station that rocks" which has quickly become my favorite radio station of all time.

[Foghorn]

Agreed Re- the shows.

If I was forced to listen to the radio all day (sports talk only) 3 months ago I'd go with:

John and Lance in the morning till 11:00. Jim Rome for an hour until 12:00. Dan Patrick until 3:00. Then CP until 6 and the night pervs on 610 until 10:00. Also like Doug Gotleib on ESPN Radio- but not sure if the local's pick him up or if it's just an XM thing.

Gotleib isn't bad (he's on 97.5 FM starting at 6:00).  The guests that the World Wide Leader can wrangle up is amazing.  They had their ex-Sports Business guy (now at CNBC) Derren Rovell on the other night and he was bringing it strong.  Then they had on someone else whose name I forgot who was bringing it on the NBA.  ESPN Radio should be the be all end all.  That they aren't says a lot about the business.

[Hornstros]

If that douchebag Ric Renner had his own show the respective station would undoubtedly be the worst sports radio station in the country

[Rebel Jew]

Agreed Re- the shows.

If I was forced to listen to the radio all day (sports talk only) 3 months ago I'd go with:

John and Lance in the morning till 11:00. Jim Rome for an hour until 12:00. Dan Patrick until 3:00. Then CP until 6 and the night pervs on 610 until 10:00. Also like Doug Gotleib on ESPN Radio- but not sure if the local's pick him up or if it's just an XM thing.

how many months into this do you think before you would kill yourself?