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« on: June 07, 2007, 09:31:36 am »
This morning on 740 he had a comment about how the Astros face a difficult decision.  Two veterans, Williams and Biggio, while trying their best aren't getting the job done.  And the Astros might should find someone else for those spots.  Look at yourself Milo.  No one has been able to follow a game on the radio for the past 3 years. 

I do think that Biggio is a difficult decision.  He's clearly not a leadoff hitter at this point.  Who do the Astros have that is?  I suppose Loretta could be forced into the spot.   I think that Houston, the fans and the media, have been particularly graceless in their comments on Biggio's season.  But we'll all stand up and cheer when he gets to 3000.  I posted a news article yesterday from the Rocky Mountain News that talks particularly about Biggio's subtle skills.  We don't get it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2007, 09:39:30 am »
milo needs to stay. its nice to have someon out there who makes less sense than I do
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2007, 09:52:27 am »
This morning on 740 he had a comment about how the Astros face a difficult decision.  Two veterans, Williams and Biggio, while trying their best aren't getting the job done.  And the Astros might should find someone else for those spots.  Look at yourself Milo.  No one has been able to follow a game on the radio for the past 3 years. 

I do think that Biggio is a difficult decision.  He's clearly not a leadoff hitter at this point.  Who do the Astros have that is?  I suppose Loretta could be forced into the spot.   I think that Houston, the fans and the media, have been particularly graceless in their comments on Biggio's season.  But we'll all stand up and cheer when he gets to 3000.  I posted a news article yesterday from the Rocky Mountain News that talks particularly about Biggio's subtle skills.  We don't get it.

Agreed- Milo can't bang on anyone for sticking around past their prime.

Partialy disagree on houston's fans and their treatment of biggio. I hear people chanting bi- gi-o, bi- gi - o all the time while he is up at the plate, the crowd erupts whenever he gets a hit etc.  I know there's been some bitching on message boards and call in shows, but I think that is a very small, somewhat vocal minority.  I think the city of houston is squarely in bidge's camp.


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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2007, 11:25:20 am »
This morning on 740 he had a comment about how the Astros face a difficult decision.  Two veterans, Williams and Biggio, while trying their best aren't getting the job done.  And the Astros might should find someone else for those spots.  Look at yourself Milo.  No one has been able to follow a game on the radio for the past 3 years. 

I do think that Biggio is a difficult decision.  He's clearly not a leadoff hitter at this point.  Who do the Astros have that is?  I suppose Loretta could be forced into the spot.   I think that Houston, the fans and the media, have been particularly graceless in their comments on Biggio's season.  But we'll all stand up and cheer when he gets to 3000.  I posted a news article yesterday from the Rocky Mountain News that talks particularly about Biggio's subtle skills.  We don't get it.

What about Burke?  I wasn't a big fan of playing Pence in RF, but if Scott doesn't show some consistency soon is there a chance that Gar might consider playing Burke in CF and moving Pence to RF?  If yes, then I'd assume Ensberg would be reinserted into the lineup (again with the faint hope that he will actually slug the ball) moving Loretta back to the bench.  Ensberg has hit a few homeruns lately.  Also, once Bidge hits 3000, you replace him with Loretta and insert him behind Burke in the #2 spot and hope for the best.

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2007, 11:30:15 am »
What about Burke?  I wasn't a big fan of playing Pence in RF, but if Scott doesn't show some consistency soon is there a chance that Gar might consider playing Burke in CF and moving Pence to RF?  If yes, then I'd assume Ensberg would be reinserted into the lineup (again with the faint hope that he will actually slug the ball) moving Loretta back to the bench.  Ensberg has hit a few homeruns lately.  Also, once Bidge hits 3000, you replace him with Loretta and insert him behind Burke in the #2 spot and hope for the best.

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2007, 11:31:38 am »
This morning on 740 he had a comment about how the Astros face a difficult decision.  Two veterans, Williams and Biggio, while trying their best aren't getting the job done.  And the Astros might should find someone else for those spots.  Look at yourself Milo.  No one has been able to follow a game on the radio for the past 3 years. 

I do think that Biggio is a difficult decision.  He's clearly not a leadoff hitter at this point.  Who do the Astros have that is?  I suppose Loretta could be forced into the spot.   I think that Houston, the fans and the media, have been particularly graceless in their comments on Biggio's season.  But we'll all stand up and cheer when he gets to 3000.  I posted a news article yesterday from the Rocky Mountain News that talks particularly about Biggio's subtle skills.  We don't get it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2007, 11:39:21 am »
What? They already conducted this experiment and it failed.

It's obvious someone within this organization believes in Burke.  Maybe the trip to AAA changes things up for Burke...at least that's what I'd guess Gar would have to be thinking if he gave him another shot.  Burke wouldn't be the first player fail, be sent to the minors, and then succeed after a callup back to the majors.

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2007, 11:39:36 am »
Biggio is hitting .111 in June and .188 over the last 30 days.  His bat speed is very slow. He has hit one ball out of the infield this week.  He just can't play anymore.  Ensberg is hot and needs to play everyday.  Scott needs to play everyday in right.  Take your pick at 2nd, either Loretta or Burke.

It will be very difficult for Biggio to get 21 more hits.  He looks totally over matched at the plate.  He might be able to get some against leftys.  His average will continue to drop.  He will be lucky to hit .220 this season.  It is sad to watch.

Williams should be released as soon as possible.  It ws a bad decision to sign him.  The GM might or should get fired for this decision.

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 11:41:56 am »
Biggio is hitting .111 in June and .188 over the last 30 days.  His bat speed is very slow. He has hit one ball out of the infield this week.  He just can't play anymore.  Ensberg is hot and needs to play everyday.  Scott needs to play everyday in right.  Take your pick at 2nd, either Loretta or Burke.

It will be very difficult for Biggio to get 21 more hits.  He looks totally over matched at the plate.  He might be able to get some against leftys.  His average will continue to drop.  He will be lucky to hit .220 this season.  It is sad to watch.

Williams should be released as soon as possible.  It ws a bad decision to sign him.  The GM might or should get fired for this decision.

Pretty sure if Morgan Ensberg can get 21 hits in the big leagues, anyone can.

Why do you asshats insist on tilting at the Biggio windmill? He's not going anywhere.  Worry about something else.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 11:45:35 am »
Why do you asshats insist on tilting at the Biggio windmill? He's not going anywhere.  Worry about something else.

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 11:45:53 am »


Williams should be released as soon as possible.  It ws a bad decision to sign him.  The GM might or should get fired for this decision.


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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 11:47:41 am »
I can hear it now on August 19th.  There it is hit number 3000.  With that hit Biggio has brought his average up to .195.  Just listen to this crowd.

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Waldo needs to set it up to where you can't post for about 30 days after registering.

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2007, 11:53:21 am »
Waldo needs to set it up to where you can't post for about 30 days after registering.

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2007, 11:55:06 am »
Only 30?  Or how about another section only for Clarks--You have to earn your way to the TZ or GZ.

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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2007, 11:55:53 am »
Agreed- Milo can't bang on anyone for sticking around past their prime.

In Milo's defence, he thinks it's 1977.
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2007, 11:56:50 am »
I can hear it now on August 19th.  There it is hit number 3000.  With that hit Biggio has brought his average up to .195.  Just listen to this crowd.

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2007, 12:03:33 pm »
It's obvious someone within this organization believes in Burke.  Maybe the trip to AAA changes things up for Burke...at least that's what I'd guess Gar would have to be thinking if he gave him another shot.  Burke wouldn't be the first player fail, be sent to the minors, and then succeed after a callup back to the majors.

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2007, 12:04:25 pm »
Sorry, I can't help it if the guy can't play anymore.  He was a great player.  He was great on and off the field.

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I like it!

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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2007, 12:06:27 pm »
What about Burke?  I wasn't a big fan of playing Pence in RF, but if Scott doesn't show some consistency soon is there a chance that Gar might consider playing Burke in CF and moving Pence to RF?  If yes, then I'd assume Ensberg would be reinserted into the lineup (again with the faint hope that he will actually slug the ball) moving Loretta back to the bench.  Ensberg has hit a few homeruns lately.  Also, once Bidge hits 3000, you replace him with Loretta and insert him behind Burke in the #2 spot and hope for the best.

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And when guys like Zipp start to flag in production, back to The Kiddie Pool with them, in hopes they round back into form.

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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2007, 12:36:30 pm »
This morning on 740 he had a comment about how the Astros face a difficult decision.  Two veterans, Williams and Biggio, while trying their best aren't getting the job done.  And the Astros might should find someone else for those spots.  Look at yourself Milo.  No one has been able to follow a game on the radio for the past 3 years.

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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2007, 12:42:24 pm »
Milo may be old, however he is absolutely right.  Biggio and Williams are killing the team.

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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2007, 12:42:56 pm »
I can hear it now on August 19th.  There it is hit number 3000.  With that hit Biggio has brought his average up to .195.  Just listen to this crowd.
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2007, 12:45:08 pm »
Milo may be old, however he is absolutely right.  Biggio and Williams are killing the team.

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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2007, 12:45:49 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2007, 12:46:24 pm »
Some of you guys are blind.

And you're a fucking retard.

Shut up and go away. Seriously.
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2007, 12:50:05 pm »
Some of you guys are blind.

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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2007, 12:50:11 pm »
a little off topic, but i have listening to Astros games for years and have never found out why he hands over the duties in the middle innings to the color guy. anybody?  thanks.

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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2007, 12:50:55 pm »
a little off topic, but i have listening to Astros games for years and have never found out why he hands over the duties in the middle innings to the color guy. anybody?  thanks.

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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2007, 12:51:07 pm »
a little off topic, but i have listening to Astros games for years and have never found out why he hands over the duties in the middle innings to the color guy. anybody?  thanks.

Probably so he can take a bathroom break and chase the profundities around the concourse.

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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2007, 12:51:51 pm »
Probably so he can take a bathroom break and chase the profundities around the concourse.

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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2007, 12:53:25 pm »
Probably so he can take a bathroom break and chase the profundities around the concourse.

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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2007, 12:54:40 pm »
skirt chasing.  that's what i figured--thanks guys.

It is very surprising that Milo has never been Harold Reynold-ed out of his job.

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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2007, 01:00:01 pm »
Milo may be old, however he is absolutely right.  Biggio and Williams are killing the team.

You are absolutely right. It's not Berkman and his .360 SLG, or the teams inability to find a consistant 3rd baseman or rightfielder. It's not the bullpen that's killing this team, despite the fact that there are 2 pitchers in it with ERA's below 4.00. The Astros definitely aren't losing because Jennings was hurt and his replacement wound up with an ERA of 6.35 in 7 starts. It is all Woody and Biggio's fault. Even though Woody's gotten a quality start half the times he has gone out there, and Biggio has more extra base hits than everyone except Lee, they are the reason that the Astros are in fifth.

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« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2007, 01:03:16 pm »
You are absolutely right. It's not Berkman and his .360 SLG, or the teams inability to find a consistant 3rd baseman or rightfielder. It's not the bullpen that's killing this team, despite the fact that there are 2 pitchers in it with ERA's below 4.00. The Astros definitely aren't losing because Jennings was hurt and his replacement wound up with an ERA of 6.35 in 7 starts. It is all Woody and Biggio's fault. Even though Woody's gotten a quality start half the times he has gone out there, and Biggio has more extra base hits than everyone except Lee, they are the reason that the Astros are in fifth.

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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2007, 01:03:31 pm »
You are absolutely right. It's not Berkman and his .360 SLG, or the teams inability to find a consistant 3rd baseman or rightfielder. It's not the bullpen that's killing this team, despite the fact that there are 2 pitchers in it with ERA's below 4.00. The Astros definitely aren't losing because Jennings was hurt and his replacement wound up with an ERA of 6.35 in 7 starts. It is all Woody and Biggio's fault. Even though Woody's gotten a quality start half the times he has gone out there, and Biggio has more extra base hits than everyone except Lee, they are the reason that the Astros are in fifth.

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« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2007, 01:04:10 pm »
You are absolutely right. It's not Berkman and his .360 SLG, or the teams inability to find a consistant 3rd baseman or rightfielder. It's not the bullpen that's killing this team, despite the fact that there are 2 pitchers in it with ERA's below 4.00. The Astros definitely aren't losing because Jennings was hurt and his replacement wound up with an ERA of 6.35 in 7 starts. It is all Woody and Biggio's fault. Even though Woody's gotten a quality start half the times he has gone out there, and Biggio has more extra base hits than everyone except Lee, they are the reason that the Astros are in fifth.

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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2007, 01:06:05 pm »
Berkman, Ensberg, and Scott can still play.  When they play Ensberg and Scott everyday they will produce.   

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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2007, 01:07:02 pm »
Berkman, Ensberg, and Scott can still play.  When they play Ensberg and Scott everyday they will produce.   

They will huh? Not the can? Should? Might?

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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2007, 01:08:30 pm »
Berkman, Ensberg, and Scott can still play.  When they play Ensberg and Scott everyday they will produce.   

They did play Ensberg every day. They are playing Scott every day. What the hell are you talking about, and what are you responding to? Or was that just a general statement, apropos of nothing?
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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2007, 01:09:32 pm »
You are absolutely right. It's not Berkman and his .360 SLG, or the teams inability to find a consistant 3rd baseman or rightfielder. It's not the bullpen that's killing this team, despite the fact that there are 2 pitchers in it with ERA's below 4.00. The Astros definitely aren't losing because Jennings was hurt and his replacement wound up with an ERA of 6.35 in 7 starts. It is all Woody and Biggio's fault. Even though Woody's gotten a quality start half the times he has gone out there, and Biggio has more extra base hits than everyone except Lee, they are the reason that the Astros are in fifth.
good call.  how much can you really expect out of a 41 year old 2B with a bum shoulder or a SP who was never expected to post stats much over what a #3 SP should provide?  I think we have gotten what we have expected out of Biggio this year, with him trending continually down versus RHP.  Maybe he shouldn't be in the leadoff hole, but he has displayed his usual hustle and still busts it down the line on even the slimmest chance he beats out the infield grounder.

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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2007, 01:10:50 pm »
You are absolutely right. It's not Berkman and his .360 SLG, or the teams inability to find a consistant 3rd baseman or rightfielder. It's not the bullpen that's killing this team, despite the fact that there are 2 pitchers in it with ERA's below 4.00. The Astros definitely aren't losing because Jennings was hurt and his replacement wound up with an ERA of 6.35 in 7 starts. It is all Woody and Biggio's fault. Even though Woody's gotten a quality start half the times he has gone out there, and Biggio has more extra base hits than everyone except Lee, they are the reason that the Astros are in fifth.

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« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2007, 01:11:23 pm »
Berkman, Ensberg, and Scott can still play.  When they play Ensberg and Scott everyday they will produce.  

I'll bite.  What exactly has Ensberg done since July 2005 to make you think he can still play?  Please say 30 or so home runs.  Pretty please?

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« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2007, 01:13:41 pm »
Berkman, Ensberg, and Scott can still play.  When they play Ensberg and Scott everyday they will produce.   
Of course. The reason Ensberg is on the bench is because he couldn't produce playing everyday. I think Lance and Luke will heat up, and maybe Morgan will as well, but they haven't yet. And that's the reason the team is losing, not because of Woody Williams.

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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2007, 01:15:24 pm »
Of course. The reason Ensberg is on the bench is because he couldn't produce playing everyday. I think Lance and Luke will heat up, and maybe Morgan will as well, but they haven't yet. And that's the reason the team is losing, not because of Woody Williams.

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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2007, 01:16:03 pm »
It is very surprising that Milo has never been Harold Reynold-ed out of his job.

Due to severe psychological trauma, combat fatigue, and shell shock, Milo's victims are only surviving in a state of denial. So for now, and probably ever, Milos is safe.
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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2007, 01:19:20 pm »
I'll bite.  What exactly has Ensberg done since July 2005 to make you think he can still play?  Please say 30 or so home runs.  Pretty please?

While the original quote was prototypically clarkish, and I have no desire to support it, I will chime in on the Ensberg issue.  He has poked a few long balls lately in limited appearances and *may* finally be getting over his statuesque approach to the batters box.  Now that he is beginning to realize that it is OK to move while standing there, it is at least *possible* that your 30 homerun pleas will become a possibility again.  Even if he just improves his swinging-to-called strike ratio, he is likely to generate a little more action on the basepaths.

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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2007, 01:19:45 pm »
Probably getting fished in here, but solid post by the Clark. Not funny, or particurally entertaining, but solid.

It *is* possible.

But it is informative.  Not informative as in this is how incredibly angry and depressed you feel when the Astros lose and what you think the Astros ought to do about this empty feeling you have every day they don't fire Purpura and bench Biggio, and how you knew all along that this would happen and that you just told everyone you know just exactly how you feel and how no one knows anything but you.  And how no one would listen.  Not that kind of informative.  And certainly not the type of informative that anyone is going to remember when they just can't wait to whine and express their own very important and special disappointment about Everett, and Biggio, and oh why didnt they listen to me about Pence?  But it does have an informative, as in based in reality, look about it.
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« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2007, 01:20:34 pm »
Due to severe psychological trauma, combat fatigue, and shell shock, Milo's victims are only surviving in a state of denial. So for now, and probably ever, Milos is safe.

The day is coming when we will hear this on the air, played over and over and over again in sports talk shows around the world:

Milo: "So Yvette, one day you're just going to have to show me... ah... your assets!"
Yvette: "You know Milo... you're not funny and I really hate the way you talk to me.  Don't ever speak to me again, you dirty old bastard!  EVER!!!"
Milo: "Huh?"

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« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2007, 01:21:30 pm »
The day is coming when we will hear this on the air, played over and over and over again in sports talk shows around the world:

Milo: "So Yvette, one day you're just going to have to show me... ah... your assets!"
Yvette: "You know Milo... you're not funny and I really hate the way you talk to me.  Don't ever speak to me again, you dirty old bastard!  EVER!!!"
Milo: "Huh?"
Milo: "That awkward sexual advance was brought to you by DAMPRID!"


Fixed it for you.
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« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2007, 01:25:18 pm »
The day is coming when we will hear this on the air, played over and over and over again in sports talk shows around the world:

Milo: "So Yvette, one day you're just going to have to show me... ah... your assets!"
Yvette: "You know Milo... you're not funny and I really hate the way you talk to me.  Don't ever speak to me again, you dirty old bastard!  EVER!!!"
Milo: "Huh?"

Somehow he'll turn this into a story about cranking out a family full of knuckle children to a picture of Florence Henderson and a sixer of PBR.  All while not telling you the score.

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« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2007, 01:28:40 pm »
But it is informative.  Not informative as in this is how incredibly angry and depressed you feel when the Astros lose and what you think the Astros ought to do about this empty feeling you have every day they don't fire Purpura and bench Biggio, and how you knew all along that this would happen and that you just told everyone you know just exactly how you feel and how no one knows anything but you.  And how no one would listen.  Not that kind of informative.  And certainly not the type of informative that anyone is going to remember when they just can't wait to whine and express their own very important and special disappointment about Everett, and Biggio, and oh why didnt they listen to me about Pence?  But it does have an informative, as in based in reality, look about it.

Clark #2, the good one, provided exact words like "consistent" when speaking of the 3rd base woes.  Clark #1, the delusional one, speaks of things with inexact language and in such closed statements like "He'll be lucky to...", "He'll never...", "should be released now..." that leave no room for information or counter ideas.  Hence one is a rant, one is an informed opinion that can easily be interpeted as a fine constructive criticism of the team.

MRaup is right though, iffin' ya have to es-plain this stuff, you probably belong somewhere else.

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« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2007, 01:30:09 pm »

Fixed it for you.

Damprid?  What about Viagra?
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« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2007, 01:32:11 pm »
Damprid?  What about Viagra?

With Yvette around, nobody is needing Viagra...

Damprid will help after the fact.
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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2007, 01:35:01 pm »
With Yvette around, nobody is needing Viagra...

Damprid will help after the fact.

Unnecessary. Milo is so old he climaxes dust.

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« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2007, 01:36:35 pm »
Unnecessary. Milo is so old he climaxes dust.

Back to the Kiddie Pool for you.

That is a season's worth of horrid visuals in 30 minutes.
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« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2007, 01:39:55 pm »
Which brings us full circle and begs the question: Why does anyone listen to Milo Hamilton's opinions on what is right or wrong with the team.  You could just pick up any baseball cliche book from 1932 and get about the same in-depth analysis on what's wrong with the 2007 Houston Astros.

Maybe better.

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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2007, 01:41:07 pm »
Back to the Kiddie Pool for you.

That is a season's worth of horrid visuals in 30 minutes.

I have faith that someone is going to think that's worthy of a Stubing.  At least one person.

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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2007, 01:41:21 pm »
Which brings us full circle and begs the question: Why does anyone listen to Milo Hamilton's opinions on what is right or wrong with the team.  You could just pick up any baseball cliche book from 1932 and get about the same in-depth analysis on what's wrong with the 2007 Houston Astros.

Maybe better.

As long as you read it in a disgusted tone of voice, and occasionally sing songs from the 1940s when you get to the good parts.
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« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2007, 01:44:14 pm »
As long as you read it in a disgusted tone of voice, and occasionally sing songs from the 1940s when you get to the good parts.

I've heard Milo speak of the 2005 season and man, is he out of touch or what!  He speaks of Roger Clemens going to Roy and saying stuff like "Roy, we have to carry this team and go out and pitch every game like it's our last game!"  I picture a WWII B-52 captain speaking to his crew when I listen to Milo musings about the team. 

He's stuck in 1940.

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« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2007, 01:46:10 pm »
I have faith that someone is going to think that's worthy of a Stubing.  At least one person.

I think that we've found the inherent flaw in the Stubings.

And that flaw is Zipp.
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« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2007, 01:50:41 pm »
You could just pick up any baseball cliche book from 1932 and get about the same in-depth analysis on what's wrong with the 2007 Houston Astros.

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« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2007, 02:38:14 pm »
They will huh? Not the can? Should? Might?

Well, while we're spouting things we're sure of...

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« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2007, 02:38:50 pm »
  Do you actually know anything about the Astros are do you just say f this and f that all day and call people names?

i got this one.

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« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2007, 02:41:12 pm »
They did play Ensberg every day. They are playing Scott every day. What the hell are you talking about, and what are you responding to? Or was that just a general statement, apropos of nothing?

They haven't played Ensberg every day in a long time.  They platooned Scott with Lane.  When was the last time Scott had a start against a lefty?

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« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2007, 02:45:28 pm »
  Do you actually know anything about the Astros are do you just say f this and f that all day and call people names?

Do you actually know anything about the Astros?

Obviously no, but its funny you're questioning people with obvious baseball knowledge when all you've done is bitch and moan like the obnoxious, not long to be here Clark that you are.
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« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2007, 02:57:44 pm »
They haven't played Ensberg every day in a long time.  They platooned Scott with Lane.  When was the last time Scott had a start against a lefty?

You said if those two played every day, they will produce. Fine. I'm telling you that at times this season, they have played every day. Did Ensberg produce then? Is Scott producing now? What has actually taken place in that situation is a hell of a lot more important than what you say will happen in that situation.

And before you start asking more questions, answer mine: what the hell are you talking about? You jumped randomly from Biggio and Williams "killing the team", to declaring that Scott and Ensberg will produce if they play every day. What does one have to do with the other? Was this statement in response to something? Or is randomly blurting shit out just kinda something you do?
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« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2007, 03:00:08 pm »
You said if those two played every day, they will produce. Fine. I'm telling you that at times this season, they have played every day. Did Ensberg produce then? Is Scott producing now? What has actually taken place in that situation is a hell of a lot more important than what you say will happen in that situation.

And before you start asking more questions, answer mine: what the hell are you talking about? You jumped randomly from Biggio and Williams "killing the team", to declaring that Scott and Ensberg will produce if they play every day. What does one have to do with the other? Was this statement in response to something? Or is randomly blurting shit out just kinda something you do?

That is what is surprising me about this one.  He makes more 90 degree turns that it is hard to keep up with his actual point.

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« Reply #72 on: June 07, 2007, 03:03:31 pm »
You said if those two played every day, they will produce. Fine. I'm telling you that at times this season, they have played every day. Did Ensberg produce then? Is Scott producing now? What has actually taken place in that situation is a hell of a lot more important than what you say will happen in that situation.

And before you start asking more questions, answer mine: what the hell are you talking about? You jumped randomly from Biggio and Williams "killing the team", to declaring that Scott and Ensberg will produce if they play every day. What does one have to do with the other? Was this statement in response to something? Or is randomly blurting shit out just kinda something you do?
Yes, Scott is producing and so is Ensberg.

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« Reply #73 on: June 07, 2007, 03:04:24 pm »
This morning on 740 he had a comment about how the Astros face a difficult decision.  Two veterans, Williams and Biggio, while trying their best aren't getting the job done.  And the Astros might should find someone else for those spots.  Look at yourself Milo.  No one has been able to follow a game on the radio for the past 3 years. 

Was it announced that this is Milo's last season?   Or is there a chance that his back next year?
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« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2007, 03:05:52 pm »
That is what is surprising me about this one.  He makes more 90 degree turns that it is hard to keep up with his actual point.
I think I can figure out his trail. I said that the Astros have no consistant 3rd baseman or RFer, so he ignored the rest of the post, in order to point out that it is all Garner's fault that this is the case(at least, that's what I got from it). Because, you know, all ensberg needs is a regular starting job, and Garner won't give it to him.

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« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2007, 03:07:10 pm »
I think I can figure out his trail. I said that the Astros have no consistant 3rd baseman or RFer, so he ignored the rest of the post, in order to point out that it is all Garner's fault that this is the case(at least, that's what I got from it). Because, you know, all ensberg needs is a regular starting job, and Garner won't give it to him.

Just like last year! Garner is mean.
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« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2007, 03:18:15 pm »
I think I can figure out his trail. I said that the Astros have no consistant 3rd baseman or RFer, so he ignored the rest of the post, in order to point out that it is all Garner's fault that this is the case(at least, that's what I got from it). Because, you know, all ensberg needs is a regular starting job, and Garner won't give it to him.

Hmmmm, you're on to something.  Consistency is the lack of PT due to the manager and not the player.  Well, a simple look at the approach of at least MoBerg will say that their is not much to the "Garner is a meanie" answer at least with 3rd base.  Luke Scott?  Injury.  First to his groin and then to his knee.  You can't play when your hurt or provide consistency.  It's not Garner's fault in either case.  It is what it is and it speaks back to your original (and fine) point: whatever the reason, they have not gotten consistency at key production roles.  If you want, the same applies to Jennings.  Is Garner mean for putting him in the DL with a hurt elbow?  No?  Good, that is the answer for Scott and MoBerg is somewhat similar situations.  MoBerg because he just did not work like a run producer (he thought he was a leadoff hitter!) and Scott has been hurt for much of April and May.

So why can't all Clarks just have plain and simple analysis views like this?  I don't think it is that hard.

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« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2007, 03:18:51 pm »
You said if those two played every day, they will produce. Fine. I'm telling you that at times this season, they have played every day. Did Ensberg produce then? Is Scott producing now? What has actually taken place in that situation is a hell of a lot more important than what you say will happen in that situation.

And before you start asking more questions, answer mine: what the hell are you talking about? You jumped randomly from Biggio and Williams "killing the team", to declaring that Scott and Ensberg will produce if they play every day. What does one have to do with the other? Was this statement in response to something? Or is randomly blurting shit out just kinda something you do?
Yes, Scott is producing and so is Ensberg.

Goddamit, you're slow. Those were rhetorical questions meant to point out that we can all observe whether or not Ensberg produce when they play every day. We don't need you to tell us that they will, as though they haven't played every day yet. And for the record, the correct answers were 1) no, Morgan did not and 2) yes, Luke currently is.

The other parts were not rhetorical. I'm sorry that was unclear. I have bolded them so that they are more obvious, please do answer if you get a chance.
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« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2007, 03:36:07 pm »
I've heard Milo speak of the 2005 season and man, is he out of touch or what!  He speaks of Roger Clemens going to Roy and saying stuff like "Roy, we have to carry this team and go out and pitch every game like it's our last game!"  I picture a WWII B-52 captain speaking to his crew when I listen to Milo musings about the team. 

He's stuck in 1940.

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« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2007, 03:45:56 pm »
B-17.

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« Reply #80 on: June 07, 2007, 03:49:28 pm »
LOL

If we'd had B-52's in 1940, things would have gone a little more quickly.

Agreed!

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