Author Topic: You maybe think Garner needs to pop Pinwheel or JdJO to fire up the 'Stros?  (Read 7275 times)

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Might not hurt!  But Tanked Commander, before the Josh Hancock tragedy, was actually in a battle with the beat writers and the columnist for the Post-Dispatch over some silly name calling that the writers decided was funny.  Ironically, they were making fun of Lou Pinella and the Cubs and not the St. Looie Miseries.  And LaRussa stood up for the Cubs and called out the Post-Dispatch.  He told them that as long as they were going to disrespect a major league organization like that, he wasn't going to be a part of anything they write... so don't ask him any more questions, he ain't talking to the Post-Dispatch any more.

Here is video of the argument (sorry Limey):

"Quit grandstanding, Tony!"  "GRANDSTANDING?  YOU THINK I'M GRANDSTANDING!"

Usually, a manager will follow such a confrontation with a few pops to the lip of the writer... ah, the good ol' days... but I digress. 

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Yes.  What was the reason?

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Yes.  What was the reason?

A Post-Dispatch employee wrote a sarcastic and unflattering article called "No Tinkers, No Evers, No Chance!" that they thought was funny.  It was basically a thinly vielded excuse to make fun of the Cubs, who then proceeded to beat the crap out of the Cardinals in St. Looie.  LaRussa was upset at the PD paper for being classless and told them he was not going to talk to them any more.  Joe Strauss, who is the beat writer was trying to get him to comment on the game Saturday, but LaRussa was adamant he wasn't talking to them.

Then Bernie Milkask, the columnist jumped in, to which LaRussa told him "You're with the Post-Dispatch too, I'm not talking to you either".  LaRussa kept insisting he wasn't going to disrespect any opponents so he wasn't going to honor any request by the PD to talk to him.  I think maybe he was just upset because the Cubs came into town ready to take them down a notch for their arrogance and LaRussa just didn't need a hornets nest being stirred by the media.

So now he's taking them on.

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A Post-Dispatch employee wrote a sarcastic and unflattering article called "No Tinkers, No Evers, No Chance!" that they thought was funny.  It was basically a thinly vielded excuse to make fun of the Cubs, who then proceeded to beat the crap out of the Cardinals in St. Looie.  LaRussa was upset at the PD paper for being classless and told them he was not going to talk to them any more.  Joe Strauss, who is the beat writer was trying to get him to comment on the game Saturday, but LaRussa was adamant he wasn't talking to them.

Then Bernie Milkask, the columnist jumped in, to which LaRussa told him "You're with the Post-Dispatch too, I'm not talking to you either".  LaRussa kept insisting he wasn't going to disrespect any opponents so he wasn't going to honor any request by the PD to talk to him.  I think maybe he was just upset because the Cubs came into town ready to take them down a notch for their arrogance and LaRussa just didn't need a hornets nest being stirred by the media.

So now he's taking them on.

What I should have said about Garner was, yes, does he really need a reason?

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What I should have said about Garner was, yes, does he really need a reason?

Pinwheel wouldn't come within five feet of him, although I'm sure JdJO might decide he can take him on.

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In an unrelated incident, Greg Popovich, head coach of the San Antonio Spurs has decided to cancel his appearance on KTKR sports radio in San Antonio.  That is the Sports Ticket 760 and trust me, the station is really bad.  The morning guys are lame and last year they had a run-in with Dallas Mavericks play-by-play man Chuck Cooperstein.  Cooperstein basically hung up on the young brash morning show host (Chancellor?) because he was being a huge jerk.  This was during the playoff series.  The have an older ex-FM disc jock named Charlie Parker who does the show with this kid and he's not any better.  In the afternoon, they have two nitwits doing their show and it gets even worse with those two.  Jeff Vexler is one of the guys and when he speaks of the Houston Astros, you'd think you were listening to Howard from Memorial who somehow managed to convince someone he needed his own show.

Now the same station is up to their tricks again.  This time, they've decided to pick on Allen Iverson.  They ran a on-air skit where they had someone impersonate Iverson calling in to speak to the host.  The whole thing was made up, but not before they managed to have the impersonator say things like "I'm trying to find some Mexican woman on the riverwalk to have sex with" and "I shot a homeless man outside our hotel today".  Iverson was not amused and neither was anyone else.  Popovich canceled his appearance on their show and I think the producer for the show got fired for being the impersonator.

Media wanting to be "the story" instead of reporting the story is always a bad idea.

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Then Bernie Milkask, the columnist jumped in, to which LaRussa told him "You're with the Post-Dispatch too, I'm not talking to you either". 

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In an unrelated incident, Greg Popovich, head coach of the San Antonio Spurs has decided to cancel his appearance on KTKR sports radio in San Antonio.  That is the Sports Ticket 760 and trust me, the station is really bad.  The morning guys are lame and last year they had a run-in with Dallas Mavericks play-by-play man Chuck Cooperstein.  Cooperstein basically hung up on the young brash morning show host (Chancellor?) because he was being a huge jerk.  This was during the playoff series.  The have an older ex-FM disc jock named Charlie Parker who does the show with this kid and he's not any better.  In the afternoon, they have two nitwits doing their show and it gets even worse with those two.  Jeff Vexler is one of the guys and when he speaks of the Houston Astros, you'd think you were listening to Howard from Memorial who somehow managed to convince someone he needed his own show.

Now the same station is up to their tricks again.  This time, they've decided to pick on Allen Iverson.  They ran a on-air skit where they had someone impersonate Iverson calling in to speak to the host.  The whole thing was made up, but not before they managed to have the impersonator say things like "I'm trying to find some Mexican woman on the riverwalk to have sex with" and "I shot a homeless man outside our hotel today".  Iverson was not amused and neither was anyone else.  Popovich canceled his appearance on their show and I think the producer for the show got fired for being the impersonator.

Media wanting to be "the story" instead of reporting the story is always a bad idea.

I went to elementary school with Jeff Vexler. He was a pretty nice guy back then.
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Sorry Noe, you are sporting some old facts. Not that I disagree with the content. There is no longer any local morning show in San Antonio on KTKR. It is all national. That has been the case for several months. The afternoon show has been careening around the airwaves for what may seem an eternity, but what may actually be a couple of years now. Any and all problems that have ensued, content-wise, (I am rendering my opinion now) are a result of KTKR lobbing these shows to individuals who are willing to be low-paid, and are left, solely,  with the tasks of arriving to work on time, and managing their own format. Therefore, witless is as witless does. For example, Steve Czaban cracks me up, laugh out loud, in the early AMs on this station. KTKR relies upon his national feed to cover a particular, early morning time slot. The guys in the afternoon however, Walter and Jeff,  crack THEMSELVES up, and the phone calls that they get in support of their stream are, in many cases, embarrassing to listen to. Truly, I blame it on the station. I don't think that anyone of importance really pays any attention to the shit that goes on. Personally, I have always had the feeling that Greg Popovich was being nice, in his "sarcastic way", by even putting up with their stupid ass questions during his show, and their tomfoolery otherwise. Whatever decisions that have just been rendered, regarding Pop's distancing himself from this station, is the OTHER shoe that I have been waiting to drop for quite a while.
As far as the Astros brosdcasts are concerned, this station is the sole broadcast system for the San Antonio area. My beef with them is that they pick and choose what games they will deliver to this city of 1.5 million. There are many times when they will skip a day game in order to deliver one of theses crapped-out local shows. As a person who is on the road several days out of the month, this lack of allegiance to the Stros and the absence of certain daytime broadcasts irks me more than the tripe that is served up as day-to-day fare.
Shit, I can listen to Bjork if I don't want to hear Jeff and Walter, but I can't conjure up an Astros game on my own. You could hear tenfold more Astro broadcasts on the radio in 1967, in tenfold more geographical locations, than you can find these days. That's progress..................I know XM radio.

The Iverson "skit" thing was a typical event as far as this show goes. There have been other faux-interviews that were just as foolish, unlistenable, with poor-taste being the most abundant feature. We are
talking about a poorly run station allowing a few low-grade, and, I emphasize, underpaid(they must be), hosts to schedule, script, and moniter their own eminent demise as if it were a some sort of lark. Someone should have told them that the gun that that they have been playing with for the last couple of years has always been loaded.
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A Post-Dispatch employee wrote a sarcastic and unflattering article called "No Tinkers, No Evers, No Chance!" that they thought was funny.

Hell, I thought it was funny. It didn't have anything to do with the Cardinals and the Tanked Commander. I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion, although I'm sure the TC was holding a grudge from the unflattering article about him and his sleeping behind the wheel incident.
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Hell, I thought it was funny. It didn't have anything to do with the Cardinals and the Tanked Commander. I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion, although I'm sure the TC was holding a grudge from the unflattering article about him and his sleeping behind the wheel incident.

That article was funny, and the TC can kiss off as far as I am concerned.
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Pinwheel wouldn't come within five feet of him, although I'm sure JdJO might decide he can take him on.

In todays blog, Pinwheel admits, "Just for the record, I don't have much of a relationship with Garner.--Richard"

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Sorry Noe, you are sporting some old facts. Not that I disagree with the content. There is no longer any local morning show in San Antonio on KTKR. It is all national.

Wow, they got rid of Chance and Charlie?  Cool!  That show was awful.  I had to work in San Antonio on a contract last year, so yeah... I haven't listened to them since then.  Chance (or Chancellor was especially awful with his "I'm Bad" schtick).

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That has been the case for several months. The afternoon show has been careening around the airwaves for what may seem an eternity, but what may actually be a couple of years now. Any and all problems that have ensued, content-wise, (I am rendering my opinion now) are a result of KTKR lobbing these shows to individuals who are willing to be low-paid, and are left, solely,  with the tasks of arriving to work on time, and managing their own format. Therefore, witless is as witless does. For example, Steve Czaban cracks me up, laugh out loud, in the early AMs on this station. KTKR relies upon his national feed to cover a particular, early morning time slot. The guys in the afternoon however, Walter and Jeff,  crack THEMSELVES up, and the phone calls that they get in support of their stream are, in many cases, embarrassing to listen to.

Eggszactly.  Walter Passakreda(?) and Vexler sound alike and the jokes they told in light of actual sports talk were awful.  And then they had a marathon of callers jump in to add fuel to the fire of idocy that they started.

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Truly, I blame it on the station. I don't think that anyone of importance really pays any attention to the shit that goes on. Personally, I have always had the feeling that Greg Popovich was being nice, in his "sarcastic way", by even putting up with their stupid ass questions during his show, and their tomfoolery otherwise. Whatever decisions that have just been rendered, regarding Pop's distancing himself from this station, is the OTHER shoe that I have been waiting to drop for quite a while.

I had the same feeling listening to him on the show last year.

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As far as the Astros brosdcasts are concerned, this station is the sole broadcast system for the San Antonio area. My beef with them is that they pick and choose what games they will deliver to this city of 1.5 million. There are many times when they will skip a day game in order to deliver one of theses crapped-out local shows. As a person who is on the road several days out of the month, this lack of allegiance to the Stros and the absence of certain daytime broadcasts irks me more than the tripe that is served up as day-to-day fare.

Again, dead spot on.  Last year was no fun trying to hear Astros games on the way home.

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Shit, I can listen to Bjork if I don't want to hear Jeff and Walter, but I can't conjure up an Astros game on my own. You could hear tenfold more Astro broadcasts on the radio in 1967, in tenfold more geographical locations, than you can find these days. That's progress..................I know XM radio.

The Iverson "skit" thing was a typical event as far as this show goes. There have been other faux-interviews that were just as foolish, unlistenable, with poor-taste being the most abundant feature. We are
talking about a poorly run station allowing a few low-grade, and, I emphasize, underpaid(they must be), hosts to schedule, script, and moniter their own eminent demise as if it were a some sort of lark. Someone should have told them that the gun that that they have been playing with for the last couple of years has always been loaded.

Well said.

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Richard was on 610 this morning, which is especially tough to listen to with VanderCarr filling in, but I digress, and said that if the Astros are 10 games out by the All-Star Break, Garner should be fired if the club is still playing this way.
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DS Andy Wainwright: You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
DS Andy Cartwright: Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
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Hell, I thought it was funny. It didn't have anything to do with the Cardinals and the Tanked Commander. I think the whole thing was blown out of proportion, although I'm sure the TC was holding a grudge from the unflattering article about him and his sleeping behind the wheel incident.

I think it was planned by LaGenius in order to deflect some stuff off the team and how poorly they're playing (see pot calling kettle).

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Richard was on 610 this morning, which is especially tough to listen to with VanderCarr filling in, but I digress, and said that if the Astros are 10 games out by the All-Star Break, Garner should be fired if the club is still playing this way.

Yet he types this morning, "First of all, talk of firing Phil Garner is silly." 

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Yet he types this morning, "First of all, talk of firing Phil Garner is silly." 

I wish Pinny the Wheel would just go ahead and be a jerk on one side so Garner can pop him in the lip.  That should wake up this team!  Hey, this way Pinny can take credit for the Astros wakening similar to the tombstone in 2005!

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He also said that the clubhouse is cynical and doesn't talk to anyone so he has a difficult time getting info sometimes.  
DS Andy Wainwright: You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
DS Andy Cartwright: Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
DS Andy Wainwright: Farmers.
Nicholas Angel: Who else?
DS Andy Cartwright: Farmers' mums.

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He also said that the clubhouse is cynical and doesn't talk to anyone so he has a difficult time getting info sometimes. 

It's called "Blogitis".

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He also said that the clubhouse is cynical and doesn't talk to anyone so he has a difficult time getting info sometimes.  

I thought he had said Brad Ausmus loves him and sends him secret squirrel emails? 

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Pinwheel set a world record for use of the phrases "I would presume" and "I would guess" this morning.
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Pinwheel set a world record for use of the phrases "I would presume" and "I would guess" this morning.

Because his guesses have served him so well in the past.  He's got his own blog and is a star on Chron.com videos. 

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He also said that the clubhouse is cynical and doesn't talk to anyone so he has a difficult time getting info sometimes.  

Why would they be cynical?  They probably didn't hear him the other day crediting "The General" , (the ludicrously out of his element John Mclain who is forever trying to become a movie mogul,) with teaching him that "everything is about commerce".  Gee Richard did you expect these players just to give you inside information so you could further your "career"?  What's their "commerce" angle?  Just go ahead and make it up Pinwheel, you'll get your name in the paper either way.

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Why would they be cynical?  They probably didn't hear him the other day crediting "The General" , (the ludicrously out of his element John Mclain who is forever trying to become a movie mogul,) with teaching him that "everything is about commerce".  Gee Richard did you expect these players just to give you inside information so you could further your "career"?  What's their "commerce" angle?  Just go ahead and make it up Pinwheel, you'll get your name in the paper either way.

Amen to this!  McLain is terrible.  Gawd-awful!  He's making videos at the Chron website about the fucking Rockets and Astros.  Who the fuck does he think he is?  I don't know if anyone has listened to him on "The Sports Page" which is an hour long show from 10 am to 11 am Tuesdays on 610.  It's basically him telling the girl that is on the show how hot he thinks she is and them interviewing people and her asking hard-hitting questions like, "have you ever googled your name?"

DS Andy Wainwright: You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
DS Andy Cartwright: Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
DS Andy Wainwright: Farmers.
Nicholas Angel: Who else?
DS Andy Cartwright: Farmers' mums.

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Amen to this!  McLain is terrible.  Gawd-awful!  He's making videos at the Chron website about the fucking Rockets and Astros.  Who the fuck does he think he is?  I don't know if anyone has listened to him on "The Sports Page" which is an hour long show from 10 am to 11 am Tuesdays on 610.  It's basically him telling the girl that is on the show how hot he thinks she is and them interviewing people and her asking hard-hitting questions like, "have you ever googled your name?"



I like him giving advice to aspiring movie directors.  Use writers for extras he suggests.  It'll generate free publicity for your movie.  I think I ruptured a gizzard laughing at that one.

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I used to respect both of them.  I thought Justice did a decent job and I thought McLain was pretty good with the NFL stuff he did but since they started appearing on the radio more and on ESPN and the blogs and the video shit on Chron has made them, I don't know, full of themself?  Would that be a proper description? 

Now, when I listen to Justice, everything sounds like something he just made up.  He'll start laughing nervously and tell a story that relates to his lie that happened when he covered the Orioles to cover it up. 

It's frustrating that this is the best we have. 
DS Andy Wainwright: You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
DS Andy Cartwright: Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
DS Andy Wainwright: Farmers.
Nicholas Angel: Who else?
DS Andy Cartwright: Farmers' mums.

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I used to respect both of them.  I thought Justice did a decent job and I thought McLain was pretty good with the NFL stuff he did but since they started appearing on the radio more and on ESPN and the blogs and the video shit on Chron has made them, I don't know, full of themself?  Would that be a proper description? 

Now, when I listen to Justice, everything sounds like something he just made up.  He'll start laughing nervously and tell a story that relates to his lie that happened when he covered the Orioles to cover it up. 

It's frustrating that this is the best we have. 

I dont think they like being newspaper reporters.  They're trying to become something else, only they're not qualified.  If you look like either of those guys, pictures are not your friend. 

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I dont think they like being newspaper reporters.  They're trying to become something else, only they're not qualified.  If you look like either of those guys, pictures are not your friend. 

They have a face for journalism?
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They have a face for journalism?

They don't even have voices for radio.
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They have a face for journalism?

Yes, but not the inclination.

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Yes, but not the inclination.

And the beauty of it is, they don't even care!  It will not ever matter how many emails you send them or 610 or how many times you write their blogs and point out how worthless they truly are, they will not change.  Ever.  They are content with feeding us lies and bullshit.
DS Andy Wainwright: You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
DS Andy Cartwright: Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
DS Andy Wainwright: Farmers.
Nicholas Angel: Who else?
DS Andy Cartwright: Farmers' mums.

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They are content with feeding us lies and bullshit.

Which may (or may not) be just minor, itsy-bitsy, teeny-weeny step from impersonating Allen Iverson and making shit up like "I want to have sex with a Mexican woman" and "I shot a homeless person today".

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And the beauty of it is, they don't even care!  It will not ever matter how many emails you send them or 610 or how many times you write their blogs and point out how worthless they truly are, they will not change.  Ever.  They are content with feeding us lies and bullshit.

It's not just the sports media either. If you've ever seen a newspaper article about a subject that you know intimately, you know just how wrong they can get significant aspects of the story. You should assume that every story you read about subjects that you're less familiar with has errors of the same magnitude. Skepticism is very much in order.
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McLain is the guy that really pisses me off.  The douchebag has been a writer for years and is a fairly well respected man in NFL circles.  He has access into every single front office and even serves (served) as president of the pro football writers association and is on the inner circle of the HOF voting.

Yet despite that tremendous access he is a shit for brains.  His opinions are solely based on "how great of a story would that be", and he rarely breaks big important news.  He has the key to the kingdom and would rather sit around sniffing the dirty sheets outside the whorehouse making googly eyes at the hookers.
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"No Tinkers, No Evers, No Chance!"

I love great headlines like this.  

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McLain is the guy that really pisses me off.  The douchebag has been a writer for years and is a fairly well respected man in NFL circles.  He has access into every single front office and even serves (served) as president of the pro football writers association and is on the inner circle of the HOF voting.

Yet despite that tremendous access he is a shit for brains.  His opinions are solely based on "how great of a story would that be", and he rarely breaks big important news.  He has the key to the kingdom and would rather sit around sniffing the dirty sheets outside the whorehouse making googly eyes at the hookers.

If you read Pro Football Weekly, his "opinions" come word for word from there.
DS Andy Wainwright: You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
DS Andy Cartwright: Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
Nicholas Angel: Like who?
DS Andy Wainwright: Farmers.
Nicholas Angel: Who else?
DS Andy Cartwright: Farmers' mums.

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He has the key to the kingdom and would rather sit around sniffing the dirty sheets outside the whorehouse making googly eyes at the hookers.

Piling on the General is easy, but this is a blue star sentence.
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