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Marlins Preview
« on: April 16, 2007, 02:01:52 am »
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 07:16:56 am »
First, thanks for a good start to my monday.
Second, I thought it was required that you tube videos involving home made flame throwers HAD to include injury and/or death.
Third, I'm real tempted to say Thon, but I will go with Santana. Adding one more ace to that staff puts the good guys over the top.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 08:51:40 am »
JR is the least speculative of the options, and the one that lends itself to best guessing immediate impact, so I'm going with him.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 08:59:19 am »
I'm saying Joe Morgan because HE is the least speculative of options.   We saw what we missed a Hall of Famer and player who would have been great in the Dome.  What JR or Thon might have done is speculation.
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 09:07:09 am »
Quote from: Bench on April 16, 2007, 08:51:40 am
JR is the least speculative of the options, and the one that lends itself to best guessing immediate impact, so I'm going with him.

Yep. JR was on an extended roll when he got struck down.
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2007, 09:53:40 am »
1. Santana
2. JR
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2007, 09:56:20 am »
I would go with the Santana option though JR is a close second.

I saw the fish live last week against the Brew Crew in the game that rain and defensive gems wouldn't let end until Wednesday.  I left after 5 innings.  This team has some really good young players and deserve much better ownership and fan support.  I looked through the program and they had 11 players younger than Cabrera on their team. 
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2007, 10:16:20 am »
Give me Santana as well.  It's pretty clear he and Oswalt are on the same plane and having them both on the same team would be unbelievable (and impossible I suspect).
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 10:21:09 am »
Wait... did Series Preview just turn into From Left Field?

Am I going to have to write Les Miserables (unabridged, of coruse) for tonight's recap??

Anyways... to answer your question, I put them in this order:

1.  JR.  We win in 80, we win in 81, and he might well have pitched to 86.
2.  Santana.  Turning Andy Pettitte into your 4th starter does not suck.
3.  Thon.  This would have plaed out one of two ways: (a) he plays into the early Bagwell/Biggio years, or (b) gets dealt for significantly more than Doran.
4.  Abreu.  Not sure he would have ever put it together him.
5.  Joe Morgan.  Because, you know... fuck Joe Morgan.  On general principle.
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 10:23:25 am »
I think I would go with JR for the simple reason of, the team was already built with JR.  Santanna is very tempting, but given how the team might have made (or not made) deals differently had it had Santanna, I am not sure we can say with certainty that is might have had a rotations of Santanna, Oswalt, Pettitte, Clemens, if it had kept Santanna originally.

So give me JR.
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2007, 11:02:45 am »
this is the fedor fight most worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekdiwcsvY_0

the guy is indestructable.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2007, 11:10:11 am »
Quote from: Joey Trum on April 16, 2007, 11:02:45 am
this is the fedor fight most worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekdiwcsvY_0

the guy is indestructable.

can't see it from work.  which one is it?
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 11:36:45 am »
Quote from: Foghorn on April 16, 2007, 11:10:11 am
can't see it from work.  which one is it?

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2007, 12:19:17 pm »
JR, then Thon. Then whatever blows your skirt up in a tie for distant third.
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Re: Marlins Preview
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2007, 12:55:16 pm »
i make JR's stroke go away.

if you keep Morgan, you have to trade Wynn. they were getting in too much trouble together. is that ok?
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2007, 01:26:27 pm »
I'll go with JR as well.

It would have been great to keep Santana, but that ground has been covered more than once.  We will never know what Thon might have been, but I suspect it is more than a little exaggerated in some estimations.  Abreu would have been great, but the team had a lot of very talented OFs besides him in the interim.  And I really like Joe Morgan, but while he would have been great had he stayed, he would not have been enough to push the team over the top in his prime years.  There were too many holes on the field and flaws in the management to overcome.  So at least he went to Cincy and became part of one of the greatest batting orders ever.  BTW, I don't have the time, but I wish I could devote more to studying Morgan's home-road splits over his early career, both in the 'Dome and at Riverfront.  Because they are some of the most schizoid I've ever seen.

JR was striking out 300 guys a year and would have continued to terrify batters for awhile, plus pitching into the 1980s - still part of The Second Dead Ball Era - he would've piled up some impressive stats.  JR would have had a good shot at some strikeout records, and the HOF.  And assuming he could've kept his effectiveness to mid-decade, you'd have him, Ryan, Joe Niekro/Bob Knepper, and Mike Scott in your rotation.

Very nice preview.
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