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« on: April 12, 2007, 09:06:09 am »
Is anyone as pissed off ass me that they cancelled THE BLACK DONNELLYS, for an improv show and then the The Real Wedding Crashers??!!

Definately my favorite show right there with The Office and 30 Rock. IMO BETTER than the Sopranos AND The Departed.
The Black Donnellys has BALLS and it's NOT a freaking reality show. Damn I'm pissed.

Anyone with me?


They are showing the rest of the season ONLINE, but come on what did I get HDTV for?
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2007, 09:09:07 am »
I don't even have tv in my house.

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2007, 09:10:28 am »
I don't even have tv in my house.




How do you watch the Astros?  Oh, unless your blind then I'm sorry.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2007, 09:15:35 am »

How do you watch the Astros?  Oh, unless your blind then I'm sorry.

I don't.

Well, Opening Day found me sitting in the conference room at work watching on the big screen.

I hope to resolve the situation soon.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2007, 09:17:55 am »
I don't.

Well, Opening Day found me sitting in the conference room at work watching on the big screen.

I hope to resolve the situation soon.

Besides, Sports, The Discovery Channel, The History Channel, and some HDTV Programming, your not missing much, NOW!
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2007, 09:23:13 am »
Is anyone as pissed off ass me that they cancelled THE BLACK DONNELLYS, for an improv show and then the The Real Wedding Crashers??!!

Definately my favorite show right there with The Office and 30 Rock. IMO BETTER than the Sopranos AND The Departed.
The Black Donnellys has BALLS and it's NOT a freaking reality show. Damn I'm pissed.

Anyone with me?


They are showing the rest of the season ONLINE, but come on what did I get HDTV for?

Never saw it. I was pissed that Studio 60 was bumped for it.

I don't think network TV in HD is all that great.

Now Discovery HD is a different story... Planet Earth is exactly the reason I got HD. Well, that and sports, and watching The Masters in HD all weekend was greatness.

Did I mention that consecutive off days really suck?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2007, 09:24:39 am »
Never saw it. I was pissed that Studio 60 was bumped for it.

I don't think network TV in HD is all that great.

Now Discovery HD is a different story... Planet Earth is exactly the reason I got HD. Well, that and sports, and watching The Masters in HD all weekend was greatness.

Did I mention that consecutive off days really suck?

Check out the first episode online, if you have 45 min to kill. It's really good.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2007, 09:27:43 am »
Never saw it. I was pissed that Studio 60 was bumped for it.

I don't think network TV in HD is all that great.

Now Discovery HD is a different story... Planet Earth is exactly the reason I got HD. Well, that and sports, and watching The Masters in HD all weekend was greatness.

Did I mention that consecutive off days really suck?

I liked Studio 60 also, but I'm okay with it being gone.

And I didn't care about the Donnellys.  The lighting for that show was too dark.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2007, 09:31:07 am »

How do you watch the Astros?  Oh, unless your blind then I'm sorry.

I have a TV, but no cable or dish, so I only see Astros in person, on KNWS, or on FOX Saturdays. Otherwise, it's all radio for me. Other than Astros baseball, I know I'm not missing much.

BTW, I don't think I've posted since sometime last summer. As if anyone cares, since then, I finished my PhD at Michigan State, moved back to Houston (Clear Lake) from Michigan, and broke my leg badly in a roller hockey mishap, now recovering well. I've been reading a lot during my absense, but just never had time/motivation to post, for some reason. Anyway, see you all around. I should be at a few more games at MMP than in past years. I might even make it to a few Bay Area Toros games.

ETA: TV watching in my house has been SIGNIFICANTLY reduced since we instituted the rule that the TV doesn't come on until the kids are in bed (around 8:30). We still watch The Office and 30 Rock when we can, and we get The Daily Show from iTunes, but I watch little else. It's really given me a lot of time for other things, and most TV is crap anyway, so I don't mind. I never saw The Black Donnelly's, but the commercials made it look really cheesey. Maybe it wasn't, but I was never interested in giving it a chance. My condolences on your loss.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2007, 10:09:08 am »
I have a TV, but no cable or dish, so I only see Astros in person, on KNWS, or on FOX Saturdays. Otherwise, it's all radio for me. Other than Astros baseball, I know I'm not missing much.

BTW, I don't think I've posted since sometime last summer. As if anyone cares, since then, I finished my PhD at Michigan State, moved back to Houston (Clear Lake) from Michigan, and broke my leg badly in a roller hockey mishap, now recovering well. I've been reading a lot during my absense, but just never had time/motivation to post, for some reason. Anyway, see you all around. I should be at a few more games at MMP than in past years. I might even make it to a few Bay Area Toros games.

ETA: TV watching in my house has been SIGNIFICANTLY reduced since we instituted the rule that the TV doesn't come on until the kids are in bed (around 8:30). We still watch The Office and 30 Rock when we can, and we get The Daily Show from iTunes, but I watch little else. It's really given me a lot of time for other things, and most TV is crap anyway, so I don't mind. I never saw The Black Donnelly's, but the commercials made it look really cheesey. Maybe it wasn't, but I was never interested in giving it a chance. My condolences on your loss.

Thank you for your concern. Maybe if the Astros would trade for a centerfielder, I will be able to get over my loss.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2007, 10:11:34 am »
NOOOOOOOOOO!!! I really liked that show. I was wondering why there was no preview after the last show. That really sucks. Well at least the Astros are playing but still more tv reality shows--come on people somebody please keep an intelligent/well written show show on for once.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2007, 10:13:54 am »
As an Irish-American, I am puzzled by the sudden popularity of Irish organized crime.    Does anyone believe there are more Irish gangsters in America (or anywhere) than, say, Cambodian ones?  or Bulgarian? or whatever?  Since the Irish are one of the most assimilated groups in the US, why would there be a need for such a thing?   Maybe I will watch the show at home and be enlightened.

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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2007, 10:18:45 am »
Anyone with me?

I'm with you! I didn't realize this happened until last night when I sat down to watch Monday's episode, which still said The Black Donnellys on the DVR recording, but was the other shows you mentioned. I don't watch a lot of TV outside of baseball, but this was one of the few shows that I enjoy enough to record. I've read the show was not getting good reviews, which I think is fucking ridiculous. This makes the second show I've fell for that got shit canned, the other being Arrested Development. Oh, well.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2007, 10:20:56 am »
As an Irish-American, I am puzzled by the sudden popularity of Irish organized crime.    Does anyone believe there are more Irish gangsters in America (or anywhere) than, say, Cambodian ones?  or Bulgarian? or whatever?  Since the Irish are one of the most assimilated groups in the US, why would there be a need for such a thing?   Maybe I will watch the show at home and be enlightened.

The Boondock Saints, The Departed, GoodWill Hunting (non really organized crime) is there more?
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2007, 10:22:03 am »
As an Irish-American, I am puzzled by the sudden popularity of Irish organized crime.    Does anyone believe there are more Irish gangsters in America (or anywhere) than, say, Cambodian ones?  or Bulgarian? or whatever?  Since the Irish are one of the most assimilated groups in the US, why would there be a need for such a thing?   Maybe I will watch the show at home and be enlightened.

The Irish are safe in this era of political correctness.

Oh, and my TV is there for F1 races besides Astros baseball.

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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2007, 10:22:18 am »
I haven't been the same since Firefly, but since there is no tv, they can't cancel something I watch.

I have read that Drive could be pretty good. I think it starts this week.
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2007, 10:24:22 am »
As an Irish-American, I am puzzled by the sudden popularity of Irish organized crime.    Does anyone believe there are more Irish gangsters in America (or anywhere) than, say, Cambodian ones?  or Bulgarian? or whatever?  Since the Irish are one of the most assimilated groups in the US, why would there be a need for such a thing?   Maybe I will watch the show at home and be enlightened.

I lived in Boston for a while where Whitey Bulger is still something of a cult hero. I think it's just a way to make the typical gangster tale seem different, but Irish organized crime is nothing new.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2007, 10:25:33 am »
The Boondock Saints, The Departed, GoodWill Hunting (non really organized crime) is there more?

Mystic River?

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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2007, 10:27:22 am »
I'm with you! I didn't realize this happened until last night when I sat down to watch Monday's episode, which still said The Black Donnellys on the DVR recording, but was the other shows you mentioned. I don't watch a lot of TV outside of baseball, but this was one of the few shows that I enjoy enough to record. I've read the show was not getting good reviews, which I think is fucking ridiculous. This makes the second show I've fell for that got shit canned, the other being Arrested Development. Oh, well.


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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2007, 10:27:38 am »
Mystic River?

What was that Scorcese movie with DiCaprio and Daniel Day Lewis?
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2007, 10:28:52 am »
What was that Scorcese movie with DiCaprio and Daniel Day Lewis?

Gangs of New York.  I thought of that, but I was referring to more modern day stuff.

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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2007, 10:29:45 am »
What was that Scorcese movie with DiCaprio and Daniel Day Lewis?


The Gangs of New York!!!!! Good one.

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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2007, 10:48:07 am »
As an Irish-American, I am puzzled by the sudden popularity of Irish organized crime.    Does anyone believe there are more Irish gangsters in America (or anywhere) than, say, Cambodian ones?  or Bulgarian? or whatever?  Since the Irish are one of the most assimilated groups in the US, why would there be a need for such a thing?   Maybe I will watch the show at home and be enlightened.


Well, try being 1/2 Irish, 1/2 Russian (actually 1/4, 1/4).  I'm not super-sensitive about it; but I find it amusing that almost every Russian character I've seen on TV since perestroika is beefy, in a bad suit, and (given that I'm not equipped for Smell-O-Vison) seems to reek of vodka.  Oh, and is mumbling something in a heavy accent to some other Russkies about taking somebody else out. (Speaking of ethnic mobster stereotyping, by the way, my children are Irish, Russian, and Sicilian.)

I'm not offended by the ethnic sterotyping so much as I am by the chronic lack of imagination and/or creativity in American popular entertainment, particularly televison.  The latter, already seriously creatively compromised, has been overrun now by the cheap and facile CSI style.  Every series producer now thinks an over loud 1970's anthemic rock song, jerky camera work, and ridiculously dark interior lighting convey substance and profundity and, in fact, art.  Fuck.


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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2007, 10:53:37 am »
I am beginning to get sensitive about it all though.  I watched "Happy Feet" this weekend with the family and none of us liked the movie that much.  Little did we know it was not about funny, furry, happy go lucky penquins.... no, it was some sort of whacked out political statement about eating fish!

Okay, fine, no problem.

But since I was bummed about the lack of funny, fuzzy, happy go lucky penquins... why in the heck is Robin Williams leading a band of Hispanic speaking ne'r do wells that are always on the prowl for chicas and all they care about is dancing and singing?  Well, it's because I was too PO'ed that they used penquins, that's why!

Can't wait for "Surf's UP!", and the use of penquins in movies the way it should be done.

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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2007, 11:09:51 am »
I am beginning to get sensitive about it all though.  I watched "Happy Feet" this weekend with the family and none of us liked the movie that much.  Little did we know it was not about funny, furry, happy go lucky penquins.... no, it was some sort of whacked out political statement about eating fish!

Okay, fine, no problem.

But since I was bummed about the lack of funny, fuzzy, happy go lucky penquins... why in the heck is Robin Williams leading a band of Hispanic speaking ne'r do wells that are always on the prowl for chicas and all they care about is dancing and singing?  Well, it's because I was too PO'ed that they used penquins, that's why!

Can't wait for "Surf's UP!", and the use of penquins in movies the way it should be done.


All I can say is, when I start to get pissed off about shit like that, I then realize that the stupid fucks who write that sort of thing, and I guess some of the people who consume it, go through life so fucking dumb they never realize it is all bullshit.  They think it is true, or funny, or something.  Ignorant fucks.

Then I'm not so mad anymore.  Until it occurs to me that while it is an offense to one's ethnicity on one level, it is an offense to one's intelligence on every level. 

That's the thing that really makes me want to kick some ass.

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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2007, 11:16:10 am »
I should be clear that I am not offended in anyway by this stuff.  Its just weird it has popped up all the sudden.  Its like we are in the midst of some weird, minor Irish-American identity crisis. 

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2007, 11:26:50 am »
I should be clear that I am not offended in anyway by this stuff.  Its just weird it has popped up all the sudden.  Its like we are in the midst of some weird, minor Irish-American identity crisis. 

Well, I admit to my being offended for the penquin population of the world.  They shouldn't be demeaned like they were in that stupid movie "Happy Feet".  What an insult!

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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2007, 11:32:30 am »
Well, I admit to my being offended for the penquin population of the world.  They shouldn't be demeaned like they were in that stupid movie "Happy Feet".  What an insult!
Oh I meant the Irish gang stuff.  I didn't see 'Happy Feet', but my sister said the same thing about it.   Did you try and ask for your money back?  It seemed to be marketed dishonestly . . .

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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2007, 11:34:07 am »
Oh I meant the Irish gang stuff.  I didn't see 'Happy Feet', but my sister said the same thing about it.   Did you try and ask for your money back?  It seemed to be marketed dishonestly . . .
This would seem to imply that somewhere someone practices "honest marketing". I'm skeptical.
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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2007, 11:38:10 am »
This would seem to imply that somewhere someone practices "honest marketing". I'm skeptical.

Yes, I thought marketing and dishonesty were synonymous.
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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2007, 11:38:39 am »
Oh I meant the Irish gang stuff.  I didn't see 'Happy Feet', but my sister said the same thing about it.   Did you try and ask for your money back?  It seemed to be marketed dishonestly . . .

I am a victim of my own impluse buying at the supermarket.  Went to the HEB to buy bread (fresh, hot bread of the French loaf kind cannot be beat, neither can the hot flour tortillas made fresh every day at HEB... ahem... I digress).  Saw the movie on a shelf as I waited in the Express line (read that again... "I waited" in the "express line", but I digress again).

Picked up the movie for our always standard "Family Night" movies and a pizza on Sunday night.  We started this now tradition in our family over 12 years ago and my boys don't know any different.  Even the now teenager in the house reminds us that we have "Family Night" tonight on Sundays so we don't forget and try to do something else.   So there we are with two large pizzas, some popcorn, soft drinks (water for dad) and the movie ready to go.

Within five minutes into the movie we knew not even Robin Williams could save this awful movie.  And he didn't.

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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2007, 11:38:47 am »
I am beginning to get sensitive about it all though.  I watched "Happy Feet" this weekend with the family and none of us liked the movie that much.  Little did we know it was not about funny, furry, happy go lucky penquins.... no, it was some sort of whacked out political statement about eating fish!

Okay, fine, no problem.

No - NOT "fine, no problem".

If you're going to dish out this kind of subversive propoganda, putting it in fucking CARTOOONS is way over the line.

Take "Meet the Robinsons", Disney's latest.  Can you gather a single clue what it's about from the ads?  No?

Well, guess what?  This family film's message is, essentially, "adoption sucks!"  And yes, I know there's a long history of using the device of the orphan seeking their "real" parents, but there's a major difference:  if you're going to see "Annie", you know what you're in for.  But to sneak your messages in with a completely misleading ad campaign?

Oh, it's a problem, all right.
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2007, 11:41:53 am »
No - NOT "fine, no problem".

If you're going to dish out this kind of subversive propoganda, putting it in fucking CARTOOONS is way over the line.

Take "Meet the Robinsons", Disney's latest.  Can you gather a single clue what it's about from the ads?  No?

Well, guess what?  This family film's message is, essentially, "adoption sucks!"  And yes, I know there's a long history of using the device of the orphan seeking their "real" parents, but there's a major difference:  if you're going to see "Annie", you know what you're in for.  But to sneak your messages in with a completely misleading ad campaign?

Oh, it's a problem, all right.

DAMNIT!  My youngest son's birthday is Saturday and he wants us all to go to the movies with him to see "Meet the Robinsons"!  Is there no shame in this world any more!

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« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2007, 11:42:53 am »
This would seem to imply that somewhere someone practices "honest marketing". I'm skeptical.

IMO, its only as dishonest as people will tolerate.

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« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2007, 11:44:08 am »
IMO, its only as dishonest as people will tolerate.

We need to have a good Reverend to lead the charge against all this dishonesty!  Al Sharpton is booked though.  Must. Find. Our. Voice. Of. The. People.

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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2007, 11:46:26 am »
Went to the HEB to buy bread (fresh, hot bread of the French loaf kind cannot be beat, neither can the hot flour tortillas made fresh every day at HEB... ahem... I digress).


Only place I'll shop.  Great meat dept.  Fuck Krogers.  Fuck Market Basket.

My kids call it "The Butt Store."  As kids will do.

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« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2007, 11:47:52 am »
DAMNIT!  My youngest son's birthday is Saturday and he wants us all to go to the movies with him to see "Meet the Robinsons"!  Is there no shame in this world any more!

Would have had no clue, if it were not for an email forwarded by our adoption agency from a parent who had stumbled into it with her kids and found herself with a lot of unexpected 'splainin to do.
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« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2007, 11:49:00 am »

Only place I'll shop.  Great meat dept.  Fuck Krogers.  Fuck Market Basket.

My kids call it "The Butt Store."  As kids will do.

HEB owns this area.  I mean freaking *OWNS* this area.  Randalls?  Dead man.  Albertsons?  Gone.  HEB competes with themselves around here.  It's now close to being a synonym for grocery store to say "I'm going to the HEB...".  Like saying "Kleenex" instead of "tissue" or "Coke" instead of "soft drink".

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« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2007, 11:51:32 am »
Tell them to come up to Spring.  The closest one is a hole-in-the-wall version just south of the Woodlands.
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« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2007, 11:52:16 am »
IMO, its only as dishonest as people will tolerate.
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« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2007, 11:52:34 am »
HEB owns this area.  I mean freaking *OWNS* this area.  Randalls?  Dead man.  Albertsons?  Gone.  HEB competes with themselves around here.  It's now close to being a synonym for grocery store to say "I'm going to the HEB...".  Like saying "Kleenex" instead of "tissue" or "Coke" instead of "soft drink".

Sounds like SA also.  I'd still rather go there than Kroger.  Why the hell do I need to join a club to buy groceries?  Same reason I dislike CVS over Walgreens.
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« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2007, 11:54:25 am »

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« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2007, 11:55:06 am »
Tell them to come up to Spring.  The closest one is a hole-in-the-wall version just south of the Woodlands.

There is not one single solitary HEB around these parts that would qualify as a hole-in-the-wall, unless you count the one in Burnet... and I don't, because you can easily go to the one in Marble Falls to make up for it.

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« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2007, 11:55:58 am »
HEB owns this area.  I mean freaking *OWNS* this area.  Randalls?  Dead man.  Albertsons?  Gone.  HEB competes with themselves around here.  It's now close to being a synonym for grocery store to say "I'm going to the HEB...".  Like saying "Kleenex" instead of "tissue" or "Coke" instead of "soft drink".

It's certainly true that Randalls and Albertsons appear to be on their last legs, and HEB is the big dog. But Wal-Mart and Target (Target?!?!?!?!) are putting some pressure on HEB. Of course, HEB is fighting back: check out the mega-HEB on the way to the Dell Diamond. It might as well be a Wal-Mart itself.
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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2007, 11:58:39 am »
Would have had no clue, if it were not for an email forwarded by our adoption agency from a parent who had stumbled into it with her kids and found herself with a lot of unexpected 'splainin to do.

Our best friends adopted two girls.  Our other best friends adopted a boy and a girl.  We all get together often (we did last Saturday for dinner) and they talk about these things, but "Meet the Robinsons" never came up.

We did, however, talk about my boss, who is taking the next three months off as a leave of absence to take care of her new son.  She adopted him and is picking him up today... in fact, if I remember correctly, he is now in her arms as we speak.

It is awesome to hear her talk about her experience, both good and bad, to get to this point.

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« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2007, 12:00:17 pm »
It's certainly true that Randalls and Albertsons appear to be on their last legs, and HEB is the big dog. But Wal-Mart and Target (Target?!?!?!?!) are putting some pressure on HEB. Of course, HEB is fighting back: check out the mega-HEB on the way to the Dell Diamond. It might as well be a Wal-Mart itself.

That's what I mean.  Folks in Houston don't really know how spectacular the HEB is around these parts.  The best they can do is go to a Super Kroger and imagine the great smell of food in the air.

That is HEB, the good kind, around these parts.

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« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2007, 12:00:52 pm »
Sounds like SA also.  I'd still rather go there than Kroger.  Why the hell do I need to join a club to buy groceries?  Same reason I dislike CVS over Walgreens.


Albertson's used to do that, too, before they closed.  Kind of creepy how they would know everything you had purchased over the last five years.  Also, the Kroger stores don't have paper bags any more.  At all.  The plastic bags are okay for most things, but if I have a bunch of cans, I want paper, dammit.  Not that it matters or anything; because the indefinite, shapeless plastic bag has killed the art of "sacking" groceries.  Now the kid just throws all the shit in there, willy-nilly.

I cannot believe I am ranting about grocery bags.  Off days, damn.

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« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2007, 12:01:54 pm »
No - NOT "fine, no problem".

If you're going to dish out this kind of subversive propoganda, putting it in fucking CARTOOONS is way over the line.

Take "Meet the Robinsons", Disney's latest.  Can you gather a single clue what it's about from the ads?  No?

Well, guess what?  This family film's message is, essentially, "adoption sucks!"  And yes, I know there's a long history of using the device of the orphan seeking their "real" parents, but there's a major difference:  if you're going to see "Annie", you know what you're in for.  But to sneak your messages in with a completely misleading ad campaign?

Oh, it's a problem, all right.


I think your being sarcastic. But I feel I should defend the "Robinsons" my 2 little ones really enjoyed it, 41/2 and 3, they kept their 3D glasses on the hole movie. With the help of a bag of licorice. I don't think they noticed any anti-adoption messages, niether did I.

Happy Feet was very mis-leading. And just not very good.
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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2007, 12:10:36 pm »

Albertson's used to do that, too, before they closed.  Kind of creepy how they would know everything you had purchased over the last five years.  Also, the Kroger stores don't have paper bags any more.  At all.  The plastic bags are okay for most things, but if I have a bunch of cans, I want paper, dammit.  Not that it matters or anything; because the indefinite, shapeless plastic bag has killed the art of "sacking" groceries.  Now the kid just throws all the shit in there, willy-nilly.

I cannot believe I am ranting about grocery bags.  Off days, damn.

I got tired of paper bags.  Most were recycled. Which meant they were far more fragile and easily torn than the non-recycled type.
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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2007, 12:10:50 pm »

I think your being sarcastic. But I feel I should defend the "Robinsons" my 2 little ones really enjoyed it, 41/2 and 3, they kept their 3D glasses on the hole movie. With the help of a bag of licorice. I don't think they noticed any anti-adoption messages, niether did I.

Not sarcastic, pissed.  I'm basing this off an e-mail I got this morning, so if I'm wrong, mea culpa.  But I understood the plot to be that this boy genius is rejected by something like 114 sets of "parents", including one that sends him away because he prefers science over sports.
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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2007, 12:12:59 pm »
Not sarcastic, pissed.  I'm basing this off an e-mail I got this morning, so if I'm wrong, mea culpa.  But I understood the plot to be that this boy genius is rejected by something like 114 sets of "parents", including one that sends him away because he prefers science over sports.

That in and of itself doesn't sound anti-adoption to me.  It sounds anti-dickhead to me.
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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2007, 12:15:30 pm »
We need to have a good Reverend to lead the charge against all this dishonesty!  Al Sharpton is booked though.  Must. Find. Our. Voice. Of. The. People.

Al is busy deciding what the media can and can't say. He'll try and fit you in right after his press conference where is apologizes for all the nasty things he said about the innocent Duke lacrosse players.
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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2007, 12:17:53 pm »
Arrested Development was one of the best comedies ever (yeah, I said it). It's demise was VERY untimely. It's the only TV show DVDs I've ever bought.

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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2007, 12:18:03 pm »
That in and of itself doesn't sound anti-adoption to me.  It sounds anti-dickhead to me.

Perhaps.  But since I am very close to two families who adopted their children and they are friends of my sons, I can understand the message in there about not being wanted (probably not so much "anti-adoption").  Disney may spin this thing to work for them though.  I have decided to read some of the rotten tomato review on "Meet the Robinsons" because I know we'll wind up being at the movie theatre this Saturday, so I want to be prepared.

But suffice it to say, "Happy Feet" was a bad movie to begin with, but to be hit hard over the head with the environmental political message to boot!  That was horrid!

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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2007, 12:20:58 pm »
Al is busy deciding what the media can and can't say. He'll try and fit you in right after his press conference where is apologizes for all the nasty things he said about the innocent Duke lacrosse players.

You would've thought he learned his lesson about jumping in feet first before thinking in these sort of "woman accuses men of rape" (especially "black woman accuses white men of rape") incidents after the oopsy Twana Brawley incident.  Reverend Al was left for ridicule for speaking first and trying to lead a mob *before* all the evidence was in that time and seems he did it again with the Duke Lacrosse team too.  And women lose in the deal after the good reverend and others leave, because when they need to speak out against perpetrators, now the "boy cries wolf" affect comes into play.

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« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2007, 12:21:40 pm »
That in and of itself doesn't sound anti-adoption to me.  It sounds anti-dickhead to me.

Just the example I could remember.  There's some crap about him trying to go back in time and find his birth mother, and then I just got mad and closed the e-mail.

As much as anything, it was a lesson that I really need to check out the movies/shows my daughter will see - this may be the first time I'm thankful she's stuck to Dora and Oobi so far.
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« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2007, 12:27:25 pm »
But suffice it to say, "Happy Feet" was a bad movie to begin with, but to be hit hard over the head with the environmental political message to boot!  That was horrid!
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« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2007, 12:37:38 pm »
I can't stand political agenda hidden behind anything, especially a kids film.  Disney has been doing this for years (Bambi).  I also am a deer hunter. 

My nephew hates it when I reply to his e-mails showing me the latest buck he shot with "YOU SHOT BAMBI!".  He thinks I'm serious.  Seems like he runs into a ton of folks who will say it seriously enough for him to be defensive about it.

I love fish, having lived near the Kemah Boardwalk for many years, it was heaven!  I also love well cooked game, although I do not go out of my way to acquire it.  As my son asked this past Tuesday night at dinner: "Dad, when are you going to teach me how to hunt like you did when you taught me to fish?".  My reply "As soon as I learn how to hunt son, which probably won't happen any time soon."  "Awwwww, dad!" was his reply.

He's got plenty of cousins and uncles that will do that for me any way.

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« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2007, 12:52:48 pm »

Albertson's used to do that, too, before they closed.  Kind of creepy how they would know everything you had purchased over the last five years.  Also, the Kroger stores don't have paper bags any more.  At all.  The plastic bags are okay for most things, but if I have a bunch of cans, I want paper, dammit.  Not that it matters or anything; because the indefinite, shapeless plastic bag has killed the art of "sacking" groceries.  Now the kid just throws all the shit in there, willy-nilly.

I cannot believe I am ranting about grocery bags.  Off days, damn.

Not true about paper bags and Kroger.  The one on West Gray has paper bags with handles.  Fits perfect into my kitchen trash can and makes disposing them easy.

Don't even get me started on the lack of bagging groceries.  Soap and fruit do not go in the same bag.
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« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2007, 12:58:47 pm »

Don't even get me started on the lack of bagging groceries.  Soap and fruit do not go in the same bag.

I often find myself presented with the other extreme with plastic bags. Once I went to load my car with groceries, and the kid who loaded them averaged one bag per item. There was one bag with a bottle of shampoo. One with the shaving cream. One with the oranges, another with the peppers. Needless to say, I am very well stocked with cheap plastic bags.
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« Reply #60 on: April 12, 2007, 01:03:50 pm »
Don't even get me started on the lack of bagging groceries.  Soap and fruit do not go in the same bag.

Which is why I bag my own groceries.  Here in Colorado it's King Soopers fighting it out with Safeway.  Albertsons is an also-ran.  I shop pretty execlusively at King Soopers and I got the discount card without fililng out the paper work (it's amazing what happens when you just play dumb and shut up).  I almost exclusively use the self-checkout lanes because I rarely have more than 3 sacks worth of groceries.  I'm very happy with this arrangement.

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« Reply #61 on: April 12, 2007, 01:10:59 pm »
Which is why I bag my own groceries.  Here in Colorado it's King Soopers fighting it out with Safeway.  Albertsons is an also-ran.  I shop pretty execlusively at King Soopers and I got the discount card without fililng out the paper work (it's amazing what happens when you just play dumb and shut up).  I almost exclusively use the self-checkout lanes because I rarely have more than 3 sacks worth of groceries.  I'm very happy with this arrangement.

My mom always taught me to make sure the right price scans so I'm usually watching that rather than bagging my groceries, unless I'm using the self-checkout lanes.

And I have gotten free Oreos because the price scanned wrong. 

And that is all I'm saying about groceries, bags and stuff on an off-day. 
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« Reply #62 on: April 12, 2007, 01:26:49 pm »
That's what I mean.  Folks in Houston don't really know how spectacular the HEB is around these parts.  The best they can do is go to a Super Kroger and imagine the great smell of food in the air.

That is HEB, the good kind, around these parts.

There's one of the good ones on Market Street in the Woodlands.  I was elated when I went in there the first time and found out that not all HEB stores are crowded little mini-Krogers.

I still miss Randalls, though.  Or at least their bakery.

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« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2007, 01:40:31 pm »
Just the example I could remember.  There's some crap about him trying to go back in time and find his birth mother, and then I just got mad and closed the e-mail.

As much as anything, it was a lesson that I really need to check out the movies/shows my daughter will see - this may be the first time I'm thankful she's stuck to Dora and Oobi so far.

I use Movie Mom Reviews from Yahoo movies to help decide if a movie is appropriate for my daughter or not (she's 13 and it's helpful with PG and PG13 descriptions and usually pretty accurate.  Here's what she says about Meet the Robinsons http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809417093/parentsguide


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« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2007, 01:46:24 pm »
In a positive for Disney (or maybe mostly Pixar), The Incredibles was fantastic. They actually had a (gulp) mother and father, married, with kids.

Very unique film from Disney.
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« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2007, 01:48:23 pm »
In a positive for Disney (or maybe mostly Pixar), The Incredibles was fantastic. They actually had a (gulp) mother and father, married, with kids.

Very unique film from Disney.

Toy Story was very good as well.  It is when they get into political statements (fox and the hound is another one) that irks me.

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« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2007, 01:49:59 pm »
In a positive for Disney (or maybe mostly Pixar), The Incredibles was fantastic. They actually had a (gulp) mother and father, married, with kids.

Very unique film from Disney.

I seriously thought The Incredibles should have been nominated for Best Picture.  It was frickin' perfect.

Of course, it was Pixar, and not the standard Disney.
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« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2007, 01:50:22 pm »
I use Movie Mom Reviews from Yahoo movies to help decide if a movie is appropriate for my daughter or not (she's 13 and it's helpful with PG and PG13 descriptions and usually pretty accurate.  Here's what she says about Meet the Robinsons http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809417093/parentsguide

Great resource, thanks for the link.
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« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2007, 01:52:52 pm »
Toy Story was very good as well.  It is when they get into political statements (fox and the hound is another one) that irks me.

I have been happy with everything from Pixar. The point I was getting at, though, is that there is always at least one parent missing. Andy had no dad in Toy Story. Nemo's mom was killed early on. Cinderella? Little Mermaid? Alladin? Ok, Peter Pan had two parents, but also a bunch of orphans.
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« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2007, 01:53:26 pm »
I seriously thought The Incredibles should have been nominated for Best Picture.  It was frickin' perfect.

Of course, it was Pixar, and not the standard Disney.

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Don't get me started on The Little Mermaid.

But yes - Disney has made an empire off children's fears of parental loss.
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« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2007, 02:02:11 pm »
I seriously thought The Incredibles should have been nominated for Best Picture.  It was frickin' perfect.

Of course, it was Pixar, and not the standard Disney.

I don't remember offhand what was nominated that year, but I remember liking The Incredibles a lot.

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« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2007, 02:08:19 pm »
And add me to the list of people who will shop only at HEB. I could never live in Dallas for the simple reason that they don't have HEB.

I guess that is a good reason.  I can think of many, many others.

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I know I don't have to shop for a big family, but I love me some Trader Joe's.  Do they have them in Texas yet?

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« Reply #74 on: April 12, 2007, 02:35:47 pm »
Great resource, thanks for the link.

This line alone makes the review excellent to me:

But any movie that has a chorus of frogs singing Big Band music and a healthy respect for failure is worth seeing.

Last night, after baseball practice, my youngest son asked me point blank: "Dad, do you think I'm good at this? (Playing baseball)."  I know why he's asking me this, he doesn't hit the ball like Carlos on our team (that kid can hit a baseball and will be playing ball in school for sure).  He's also asking me this because he doesn't throw as well as Chris or Daniel, two strong arm kids who can fling the pill around the diamond.

My son is average as a player.  He won't be looked at as the best player on this team and his Dad is the coach, a guy parents and all the other kids look up to.  So I can see his little mind working, he wants to be the best for my sake or at least thinks for my sake.  So he's asking me if I think he can be.

"Aren't you having fun?" I reply.  "Yeah, I am" he says.  "Good, that is what this is *ALL* about... fun!  Oh, I know some of the guys (even though I have on girl on the team, I call them "my guys" all the time, along with my "twinkies" since we're the twins) always talk about winning and beating the other team and I hear when they yell stuff like "Throw the ball!  COME ON THROW TO ME!!!!".  It's a bit silent as he listens to me as we drive back home.  I know what happened.  I was pitching to the kids during batting practice and I had everyone in different positions fielding the ball.  In one occasion, my son was near the pitchers mound and the ball was hit weakly in front of the plate, rolling out towards the mound.  My son stood there, frozen trying to remember how to play that position, since he is normally our centerfielder (and a good one at that).  I hear the kids start to yell at my son to "Go get it!  Don't just stand there... THROW IT TO FIRST!".  Then one of the loud mouth Dads (I have two that I worry about) starts to yell out "SON, GO GET THE BALL!".  My son is now perplexed and a bit intimidated.  He isn't moving, as the runner makes it to first easily while my son stands there a bit shaken.

"It's okay buddy, don't let it bother you" I tell him at the time.  "You're supposed to go get those balls hit around this area (as I draw an imaginary circle for him) when you stand here.  But nobody should be yelling at you either... except me, and I don't yell, I teach.  So don't ever think I'm mad at you when you don't understand what to do... I'll teach you."

So now in the car, he's asking me about failure in a sense.  Failure is a huge part of baseball.  Babe Ruth struck out as many times as he made contact with the baseball, in fact much more.  The best players in the game actually fail hitting a baseball 7 out of 10 times.  At a very young age when they're learning to play baseball as an organized sport, failure must be taught or at least how to deal with it and move on.  So he thinks awhile about what I asked "Are you having fun?" and it sinks in for him.  At least for a moment.  I'm sure we'll talk more and more about failure as our lives meet at the father/son talks, sometimes centered around our baseball journey together.

Bring it on!

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« Reply #75 on: April 12, 2007, 02:54:56 pm »
This line alone makes the review excellent to me:

But any movie that has a chorus of frogs singing Big Band music and a healthy respect for failure is worth seeing.

Last night, after baseball practice, my youngest son asked me point blank: "Dad, do you think I'm good at this? (Playing baseball)."  I know why he's asking me this, he doesn't hit the ball like Carlos on our team (that kid can hit a baseball and will be playing ball in school for sure).  He's also asking me this because he doesn't throw as well as Chris or Daniel, two strong arm kids who can fling the pill around the diamond.

My son is average as a player.  He won't be looked at as the best player on this team and his Dad is the coach, a guy parents and all the other kids look up to.  So I can see his little mind working, he wants to be the best for my sake or at least thinks for my sake.  So he's asking me if I think he can be.

"Aren't you having fun?" I reply.  "Yeah, I am" he says.  "Good, that is what this is *ALL* about... fun!  Oh, I know some of the guys (even though I have on girl on the team, I call them "my guys" all the time, along with my "twinkies" since we're the twins) always talk about winning and beating the other team and I hear when they yell stuff like "Throw the ball!  COME ON THROW TO ME!!!!".  It's a bit silent as he listens to me as we drive back home.  I know what happened.  I was pitching to the kids during batting practice and I had everyone in different positions fielding the ball.  In one occasion, my son was near the pitchers mound and the ball was hit weakly in front of the plate, rolling out towards the mound.  My son stood there, frozen trying to remember how to play that position, since he is normally our centerfielder (and a good one at that).  I hear the kids start to yell at my son to "Go get it!  Don't just stand there... THROW IT TO FIRST!".  Then one of the loud mouth Dads (I have two that I worry about) starts to yell out "SON, GO GET THE BALL!".  My son is now perplexed and a bit intimidated.  He isn't moving, as the runner makes it to first easily while my son stands there a bit shaken.

"It's okay buddy, don't let it bother you" I tell him at the time.  "You're supposed to go get those balls hit around this area (as I draw an imaginary circle for him) when you stand here.  But nobody should be yelling at you either... except me, and I don't yell, I teach.  So don't ever think I'm mad at you when you don't understand what to do... I'll teach you."

So now in the car, he's asking me about failure in a sense.  Failure is a huge part of baseball.  Babe Ruth struck out as many times as he made contact with the baseball, in fact much more.  The best players in the game actually fail hitting a baseball 7 out of 10 times.  At a very young age when they're learning to play baseball as an organized sport, failure must be taught or at least how to deal with it and move on.  So he thinks awhile about what I asked "Are you having fun?" and it sinks in for him.  At least for a moment.  I'm sure we'll talk more and more about failure as our lives meet at the father/son talks, sometimes centered around our baseball journey together.

Bring it on!

As usual you nailed it.

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« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2007, 02:57:08 pm »
I guess that is a good reason.  I can think of many, many others.

My love for wearing flip-flops year 'round is another. And yes, there are many more.

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« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2007, 04:02:01 pm »
I know I don't have to shop for a big family, but I love me some Trader Joe's.  Do they have them in Texas yet?

No, the closest Trader Joe's is in Santa Fe, NM, if you call that close. I, for one, really miss it. We used to go to the one in Ann Arbor, MI when we lived in Lansing. Two Buck Chuck alone was worth the trip. Their organic selection was really good too.

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« Reply #78 on: April 12, 2007, 04:20:14 pm »
I like Central Market, I shop at the HEB on Oltorf and Congress and the Central Market South. Sometimes Whole Foods downtown. For those unaware, Central Market is an upscale gourmet grocery store run by HEB.

And I find myself loathing "modern day" cartoons for the simple reason that they don't use good voice artists any more. I miss guys like Daws Butler & Mel Blanc. Besides it aint like Mike Meyers or Robin Williams can't get regular actor work. But who cares what I think, it's not what sells.

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« Reply #79 on: April 12, 2007, 04:25:37 pm »
I hate those TV adds for Antidepressants, they totally bum me out.
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« Reply #80 on: April 12, 2007, 04:28:36 pm »
I hate those TV adds for Antidepressants, they totally bum me out.

It's too bad that marketing doesn't always work this way though.  Else I'd get a woody every Cialis ad that appears on my screen.

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« Reply #81 on: April 12, 2007, 04:29:19 pm »
It's too bad that marketing doesn't always work this way though.  Else I'd get a woody every Cialis ad that appears on my screen.

You'd be in trouble if that Cialis ad was followed by a Valtrex one.
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« Reply #82 on: April 12, 2007, 04:35:31 pm »
You'd be in trouble if that Cialis ad was followed by a Valtrex one.

Hopefully, a Bud Lite commercial would follow soon afterwards.

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« Reply #83 on: April 12, 2007, 05:10:33 pm »
Needless to say, I am very well stocked with cheap plastic bags.

The tangent hasn't extended far enough, so I will attempt to further it...

Those of us with kiddos in preschool know that there is a never ending need for plastic bags there.  When your kid ruins yet another pair of underwear they come home with a nicely tied off bag containing the remains.  My wife and I regularly contribute to the schools supply though our child certainly never needs them. (amazing what you become proud of as a parent).  Anyway, our HEB also takes back plastic bags and I can't help but wonder if any has taken the full cycle from HEB -> home ->preschool -> home -> HEB.  Needless to say, I no longer role my eyes when the wife reminds us to wash our grapes before eating them.
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« Reply #84 on: April 12, 2007, 05:28:45 pm »
And I find myself loathing "modern day" cartoons for the simple reason that they don't use good voice artists any more. I miss guys like Daws Butler & Mel Blanc.

The guy that did so many voices in the '60s and '70s, I think his name was Don Messer, something like that.  Like Mel Blanc, that guy was a true artist.

I basically screwed my kids up forever by making them watch Bullwinkle & Rocky and Looney Tunes, and later Jonny Quest (the original one), Underdog, and a few others.  They can't tolerate the stuff on Cartoon Network and/or Nick.  My youngest son, on his own, has lately developed a fierce addiction to Tom & Jerry.

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« Reply #85 on: April 12, 2007, 11:28:54 pm »
The guy that did so many voices in the '60s and '70s, I think his name was Don Messer, something like that.  Like Mel Blanc, that guy was a true artist.

I basically screwed my kids up forever by making them watch Bullwinkle & Rocky and Looney Tunes, and later Jonny Quest (the original one), Underdog, and a few others.  They can't tolerate the stuff on Cartoon Network and/or Nick.  My youngest son, on his own, has lately developed a fierce addiction to Tom & Jerry.

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« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2007, 03:17:46 am »
HEB has really come a long way from what it was when I was a kid. Back then there weren't any in Houston that I recall, but they were scattered in Redneckvilles around central Texas and were about as appealing as the old Piggly Wigglys.

That business degree from the Wharton College really paid off for Charles Butt, Jr. HEB went from a shithole grocery in shithole towns to the largest private employer in Texas. It's just a matter of time until HEB owns the grocery market in the southwestern US and Mexico.


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« Reply #87 on: April 13, 2007, 09:11:51 am »
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Some of his voice characters:

Scooby Doo
Scrappy Doo
Bamm-Bamm Rubble
Dr. Benton Quest
Bandit (Jonny Quest's dog)
Touchet Turtle
Atom Ant
Precious Pupp
Astro (The Jetsons)
Bronto (Space Ghost)
Zorak (Space Ghost)
Droopy (the dog)
Boo Boo, Ranger Smith (Yogi Bear)
Professor Pat Pending (Wacky Racers)
Sawtooth (Wacky Racers)
Garvel Slag (Wacky Racers)
Muttley (Dick Dastardly's mutt)
Shag Rugg (The Hillbilly Bears)
Ricochet Rabbit
Ruff (the dog; Ruff and Ready)
Jabberjaw (the shark)
Hamton J. Pig (Tiny Toons)
Papa Smurf


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« Reply #88 on: April 13, 2007, 09:20:25 am »
HEB has really come a long way from what it was when I was a kid. Back then there weren't any in Houston that I recall, but they were scattered in Redneckvilles around central Texas and were about as appealing as the old Piggly Wigglys.

That business degree from the Wharton College really paid off for Charles Butt, Jr. HEB went from a shithole grocery in shithole towns to the largest private employer in Texas. It's just a matter of time until HEB owns the grocery market in the southwestern US and Mexico.




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« Reply #89 on: April 13, 2007, 09:26:26 am »
The guy that did so many voices in the '60s and '70s, I think his name was Don Messer, something like that.  Like Mel Blanc, that guy was a true artist.

I basically screwed my kids up forever by making them watch Bullwinkle & Rocky and Looney Tunes, and later Jonny Quest (the original one), Underdog, and a few others.  They can't tolerate the stuff on Cartoon Network and/or Nick.  My youngest son, on his own, has lately developed a fierce addiction to Tom & Jerry.

Does a father's heart good.

My oldest, 3 1/2 yrs old, is also a fierce Tom and Jerry fan.  He will actually act out the parts he likes as they happen on the TV. 
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« Reply #90 on: April 13, 2007, 09:46:28 am »
I've tried to get my 5 year old to watch the classics.  I've had only partial success.  He'd just as soon sit down and read his Encyclopedia of Prehistoric Animals or Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs or watch Cars or a Land Before Time movie.
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« Reply #91 on: April 13, 2007, 04:05:46 pm »
Is anyone as pissed off ass me that they cancelled THE BLACK DONNELLYS, for an improv show and then the The Real Wedding Crashers??!!

Makes me think of a quote from the first episode -

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« Reply #92 on: April 14, 2007, 02:57:24 pm »
The Boondock Saints, The Departed, GoodWill Hunting (non really organized crime) is there more?

Ed Burns' entire career.

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« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2007, 04:14:09 am »
This line alone makes the review excellent to me:

But any movie that has a chorus of frogs singing Big Band music and a healthy respect for failure is worth seeing.

Last night, after baseball practice, my youngest son asked me point blank: "Dad, do you think I'm good at this? (Playing baseball)."  I know why he's asking me this, he doesn't hit the ball like Carlos on our team (that kid can hit a baseball and will be playing ball in school for sure).  He's also asking me this because he doesn't throw as well as Chris or Daniel, two strong arm kids who can fling the pill around the diamond.

My son is average as a player.  He won't be looked at as the best player on this team and his Dad is the coach, a guy parents and all the other kids look up to.  So I can see his little mind working, he wants to be the best for my sake or at least thinks for my sake.  So he's asking me if I think he can be.

"Aren't you having fun?" I reply.  "Yeah, I am" he says.  "Good, that is what this is *ALL* about... fun!  Oh, I know some of the guys (even though I have on girl on the team, I call them "my guys" all the time, along with my "twinkies" since we're the twins) always talk about winning and beating the other team and I hear when they yell stuff like "Throw the ball!  COME ON THROW TO ME!!!!".  It's a bit silent as he listens to me as we drive back home.  I know what happened.  I was pitching to the kids during batting practice and I had everyone in different positions fielding the ball.  In one occasion, my son was near the pitchers mound and the ball was hit weakly in front of the plate, rolling out towards the mound.  My son stood there, frozen trying to remember how to play that position, since he is normally our centerfielder (and a good one at that).  I hear the kids start to yell at my son to "Go get it!  Don't just stand there... THROW IT TO FIRST!".  Then one of the loud mouth Dads (I have two that I worry about) starts to yell out "SON, GO GET THE BALL!".  My son is now perplexed and a bit intimidated.  He isn't moving, as the runner makes it to first easily while my son stands there a bit shaken.

"It's okay buddy, don't let it bother you" I tell him at the time.  "You're supposed to go get those balls hit around this area (as I draw an imaginary circle for him) when you stand here.  But nobody should be yelling at you either... except me, and I don't yell, I teach.  So don't ever think I'm mad at you when you don't understand what to do... I'll teach you."

So now in the car, he's asking me about failure in a sense.  Failure is a huge part of baseball.  Babe Ruth struck out as many times as he made contact with the baseball, in fact much more.  The best players in the game actually fail hitting a baseball 7 out of 10 times.  At a very young age when they're learning to play baseball as an organized sport, failure must be taught or at least how to deal with it and move on.  So he thinks awhile about what I asked "Are you having fun?" and it sinks in for him.  At least for a moment.  I'm sure we'll talk more and more about failure as our lives meet at the father/son talks, sometimes centered around our baseball journey together.

Bring it on!

I can only hope one day to be able to coach baseball just like you.   Awesome read.
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« Reply #94 on: April 15, 2007, 04:18:19 am »
The guy that did so many voices in the '60s and '70s, I think his name was Don Messer, something like that.  Like Mel Blanc, that guy was a true artist.

I basically screwed my kids up forever by making them watch Bullwinkle & Rocky and Looney Tunes, and later Jonny Quest (the original one), Underdog, and a few others.  They can't tolerate the stuff on Cartoon Network and/or Nick.  My youngest son, on his own, has lately developed a fierce addiction to Tom & Jerry.

Does a father's heart good.

Amen.  Why can't cartoons just be funny?  Why do all of them have to have some moral or viewpoint expressed in them?   I mean the best cartoons are the looney tunes where bugs makes a fool out of all the villains, or wiley coyote vs the roadrunner, or jerry always getting the better of tom.
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