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« on: July 13, 2006, 01:11:16 pm »
right now, Lidge, Wheeler, Qualls, Nieve, W.Rodriguez(L), T.Miller(L), Borkowski and Springer.  I have a feeling about the rotation, there may not be enough work for all these guys in the near future.  Could they send away 2?
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 01:14:47 pm »
Bork goes down when they activate Backe, unless the team feels that Wandy is not well served coming out of the pen.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2006, 01:50:58 pm »
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right now, Lidge, Wheeler, Qualls, Nieve, W.Rodriguez(L), T.Miller(L), Borkowski and Springer.  I have a feeling about the rotation, there may not be enough work for all these guys in the near future.  Could they send away 2?



What do you mean "right now"? Last I looked, Wandy's still in the rotation for another start or two, until Backe comes back.

That said, the Astros will likely acquire another arm for the pen in a trade. Unless one or more current relief pitchers are involved in the deal, I suspect at least 2 will be sent down before the end of the month. Your guess is as good as mine regarding who that might be, though. Lidge is certainly a real possibility so he can work out his stuff in AAA.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 01:52:07 pm »
I think they said they are going 4-man until Backe starts on the 22nd.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 01:52:54 pm »
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What do you mean "right now"? Last I looked, Wandy's still in the rotation for another start or two, until Backe comes back.



Per Garner, no need for a 5th starter until the 22nd.  Backe gets called up then.  Wandy is available in the pen for now.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 01:57:43 pm »
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right now, Lidge, Wheeler, Qualls, Nieve, W.Rodriguez(L), T.Miller(L), Borkowski and Springer.  I have a feeling about the rotation, there may not be enough work for all these guys in the near future.  Could they send away 2?



What do you mean "right now"? Last I looked, Wandy's still in the rotation for another start or two, until Backe comes back.

That said, the Astros will likely acquire another arm for the pen in a trade. Unless one or more current relief pitchers are involved in the deal, I suspect at least 2 will be sent down before the end of the month. Your guess is as good as mine regarding who that might be, though. Lidge is certainly a real possibility so he can work out his stuff in AAA.



Is sending players to triple A the cure for everything?  

The rotation is now,

Roy Oswalt, ... will start tonight's series opener against the Florida Marlins in Miami against Dontrelle Willis.

Roger Clemens will pitch Friday, Andy Pettitte on Saturday and Taylor Buchholz on Sunday. With a day off Monday, Wandy Rodriguez will be skipped.

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In the next rotation, Backe will be off the DL.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 01:58:49 pm »
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What do you mean "right now"? Last I looked, Wandy's still in the rotation for another start or two, until Backe comes back.



Per Garner, no need for a 5th starter until the 22nd.  Backe gets called up then.  Wandy is available in the pen for now.



Although, given the way Wandy has pitched recently, he could stand to see some regular action.  If that has to come in AAA, so be it.  As far as I can tell, he's leaving pitches up and that leads to bad things for him.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 02:16:05 pm »
I've seen enough of Wandy. I keep thinking about Jeriome Robertson.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2006, 03:15:22 pm »
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Is sending players to triple A the cure for everything?



I only said it was a possibility. It probably can't hurt: he can work with the coaching staff and work in games without his work adversely affecting the big club. That's only if, of course, the brass does not believe that he can help the big club in another way, i.e. set-up or middle relief. It's not a cure-all, but a possibility.

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The rotation is now,

Roy Oswalt, ... will start tonight's series opener against the Florida Marlins in Miami against Dontrelle Willis.

Roger Clemens will pitch Friday, Andy Pettitte on Saturday and Taylor Buchholz on Sunday. With a day off Monday, Wandy Rodriguez will be skipped.

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In the next rotation, Backe will be off the DL.



Thanks. I hadn't seen that, obviously.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2006, 03:22:27 pm »
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Is sending players to triple A the cure for everything?



I only said it was a possibility. It probably can't hurt: he can work with the coaching staff and work in games without his work adversely affecting the big club. That's only if, of course, the brass does not believe that he can help the big club in another way, i.e. set-up or middle relief. It's not a cure-all, but a possibility.

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The rotation is now,

Roy Oswalt, ... will start tonight's series opener against the Florida Marlins in Miami against Dontrelle Willis.

Roger Clemens will pitch Friday, Andy Pettitte on Saturday and Taylor Buchholz on Sunday. With a day off Monday, Wandy Rodriguez will be skipped.

The Link

In the next rotation, Backe will be off the DL.



Thanks. I hadn't seen that, obviously.



I think the Astros should hire a parrot as an assistant to the GM and train him to sqwauk "Send'm to triple A!" at regular intervals. Because, likely, it doesn't occur to Purpura.  Sure, anything is a possibility.  It's possible that Roy could drag Lidge over to his dozer and hook his brain up to the flywheel and give her a crank.  It could work, it's possible.  Of course, if he really is a mental case, a few weeks sniffing the air in Austin might just set him right.
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Re: Crowded pen
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 03:32:11 pm »
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Although, given the way Wandy has pitched recently, he could stand to see some regular action.


If it's on the big club's bullpen, I'd rather see Nieve get more "regular action".

I also have no idea how well-suited Wandy is to a relief role.  Personally, I'm of the opinion that he's extremely well-suited as tradebait for Purp's desired bullpen help.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 03:34:05 pm »
I'd like to get more regular action as well, but I'm married.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2006, 03:37:02 pm »
did not think they used elctro shock anymore.. but who knows maybe dr roy could do some good..if the jolt to the brain did not jump start anything u r right a swift kick in the backside (aka aaa) might help the man see the errors of his way..do they have rehab assignments for mental malfunctions?
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 04:12:55 pm »
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I think the Astros should hire a parrot as an assistant to the GM and train him to sqwauk "Send'm to triple A!" at regular intervals. Because, likely, it doesn't occur to Purpura.  Sure, anything is a possibility.  It's possible that Roy could drag Lidge over to his dozer and hook his brain up to the flywheel and give her a crank.  It could work, it's possible.  Of course, if he really is a mental case, a few weeks sniffing the air in Austin might just set him right.



What?? That's not what I meant at all! All I'm saying is that some time working on his mechanics in the minors wouldn't be the worst thing. I'm not even sure how being sent to AAA would help at all if it was a mental problem. However, using the minor leagues for major leaguers to work through mechanical issues happens all the time, as you know, the most recent example perhaps being Lane's demotion. I didn't even mean to imply that I thought it was the best solution, only that I could see the logic in it.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 04:26:10 pm »
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I think the Astros should hire a parrot as an assistant to the GM and train him to sqwauk "Send'm to triple A!" at regular intervals. Because, likely, it doesn't occur to Purpura.  Sure, anything is a possibility.  It's possible that Roy could drag Lidge over to his dozer and hook his brain up to the flywheel and give her a crank.  It could work, it's possible.  Of course, if he really is a mental case, a few weeks sniffing the air in Austin might just set him right.



What?? That's not what I meant at all! All I'm saying is that some time working on his mechanics in the minors wouldn't be the worst thing. I'm not even sure how being sent to AAA would help at all if it was a mental problem. However, using the minor leagues for major leaguers to work through mechanical issues happens all the time, as you know, the most recent example perhaps being Lane's demotion. I didn't even mean to imply that I thought it was the best solution, only that I could see the logic in it.



I don't care about any thing stated here with exception to the "...if it was a mental problem."  

To date, there is absolutely no justification, beyond ignorance, to assume or assert that any current Astros player or pitcher is suffering "mental" issues.  Rick Ankiel had "mental" issues.  Milton Bradley has "mental" issues, although entirely non-baseball related.  Everything that has gone wrong with the Astros is due to failure to execute.  They know what they need to do.  They even succeed from time to time.  The nonsense that the Astros failure(s) can be simplified as "mental" problems is beyond stupid.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2006, 04:32:25 pm »
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I'd like to get more regular action as well, but I'm married.


At least you're not also dealing with the occasional oral herpes outbreak.

Hopefully.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2006, 04:35:13 pm »
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To date, there is absolutely no justification, beyond ignorance, to assume or assert that any current Astros player or pitcher is suffering "mental" issues.  Rick Ankiel had "mental" issues.  Milton Bradley has "mental" issues, although entirely non-baseball related.  Everything that has gone wrong with the Astros is due to failure to execute.  They know what they need to do.  They even succeed from time to time.  The nonsense that the Astros failure(s) can be simplified as "mental" problems is beyond stupid.



Exactly, and I certainly don't want to be confused with those who believe otherwise.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 04:37:34 pm »
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I'd like to get more regular action as well, but I'm married.



Statistics show that married men get more action than single men anyway, despite what pop culture would lead us to believe, so you might not be that far off the pace.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2006, 04:37:38 pm »
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I'd like to get more regular action as well, but I'm married.


At least you're not also dealing with the occasional oral herpes outbreak.


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