Author Topic: Okay, let's play GM. (Read 9125 times)

BudGirl · « **on:** May 30, 2006, 06:31:18 pm »

Let's assume Clemens is signed. What is your next move to get this team hitting and pitching to win games?

Do you go for another starting pitcher? Some power in the outfield?

Who are you willing to give up for said player?

BudGirl · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:34:47 pm »

I'll even start--Jason Lane and Zeke Astacio for Gary Matthews, Jr.

MusicMan · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:41:24 pm »

I'm looking for an OF, not a SP. In fact, I'm hoping for Backe to come back and show his health for a couple of starts, and then trying to spin him and Jimerson for an OF.

My ideal process:

1. Clemens returns to active roster, replacing Nieve. Nieve to the pen, Gallo DFA.
2. Backe off DL, Buchholz to pen, Bork to AAA.
3. Backe/Jimerson/probably another A pitcher for Torii Hunter.

BudGirl · « **Reply #3 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:44:03 pm »

Quote:

I'm looking for an OF, not a SP. In fact, I'm hoping for Backe to come back and show his health for a couple of starts, and then trying to spin him and Jimerson for an OF.

My ideal process:

1. Clemens returns to active roster, replacing Nieve. Nieve to the pen, Gallo DFA.
2. Backe off DL, Buchholz to pen, Bork to AAA.
3. Backe/Jimerson/probably another A pitcher for Torii Hunter.

Are you going to move Buchholz back to starter after trading for Hunter? And are you putting Willy or Torii in CF?

MusicMan · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:45:27 pm »

Yep. Hirsh is my first callup in case of injury.

MusicMan · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:46:43 pm »

And Torii goes in CF, and whoever's hitting among Preston, Willy, Jason and Chris can man the corner spots.

I started off looking at corner OF, but other than Craig Wilson, I don't see who will be available.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:08:49 pm »

But Crawford never mashed in Colorado...

MusicMan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2006, 07:10:14 pm »

Of course... just pointing out that he's, to this point, been more hype than production.

JimR · « **Reply #14 on:** May 31, 2006, 01:57:59 am »

Scott appears disinterested in RR. i am off his bandwagon b/c i believe he is pouting and not giving maximum effort every night. i'd prefer Jimerson.

das · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2006, 10:27:58 am »

Wow. So, do you think Jimmerson is the real deal?

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2006, 10:33:02 am »

I can't help but think 1 of the 3 young pitchers (Wandy, Buchholtz, and Nieve) weren't "auditioning" in the majors. How many teams out there want/need young pitching? I can think of Cincinatti, Florida, Tampa, and maybe Minnesota. All of those teams have appealing options but too many variables (i.e. salary, yrs remaining under club control, etc...) that I haven't a clue how one would gauge equal value.

In my dream world, Astros give up Buchholtz and Lane for Hunter. Is that realistic? I wouldn't know but I like that deal. Maybe add in Burke if Minny throws in a minor leaguer.

Jim, I've read two knocks on Jimerson: First, he can't read off-speed pitches and, second, he doesn't cover the plate very well. I take it from your comments that this changed.

JimR · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2006, 10:45:38 am »

das: not necessarily, but he could be if he would get through his thick skull that he can make lots of money putting the ball in play.

Tom: he has made huge strides this year, and my buddy Mike Capps attributes a large part of his improvement to McEwing.
i would NOT give up Buchholz.

EasTexAstro · « **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2006, 10:49:54 am »

Happy B'day Tom...

Andyzipp · « **Reply #19 on:** May 31, 2006, 10:49:58 am »

Why in the world would you want to give up Buchholz?

And precisely which Hunter are you trying to acquire. Torii? He of the .268 .332 .448 season?

das · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2006, 11:07:43 am »

Thanks re: Jimmerson.

Besides Oswalt, Bucholz is the one other pitcher I really wanted to see when the Astros were in DC. The flashes of brilliance portend great things IMO. Very different than say, a Redding.

I could have done without the Pettitte performance. No way to unsee that.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #23 on:** May 31, 2006, 11:13:15 am »

OK, first, I don't want to give up Buchholtz but I was thinking value for value. And yes, that Torii Hunter. I'm familiar with his offensive stats. Have you seen the guy play defense??? If Houston liked Beltran, I'd put Hunter in that class, if not higher defensively. Not to mention he adds proven run production (90-100 rbi a year).

Personally, I like Buchholtz. And if he can figure out what he's doing wrong when he gets shelled, and can correct it, he's going to be a beast.

... thanks ETA

toddthebod · « **Reply #26 on:** May 31, 2006, 11:38:24 am »

I wonder if the Marlins would be willing to trade Cabrera and what it would take to get him on the Astros.

Rumors out of Philadelphia is that the Phillies/Marlins/Yankees have a deal where Willis goes to Philly, Abreu goes to NY, and lots of prospects go to Florida. If the Marlins are trading Willis, maybe Cabrera won't be far behind.

I agree with those who wouldn't trade Buchholtz. I think he's going to be a really good pitcher -- the recent blowups notwithstanding. And I'd like to keep Hirsch. But anyone else would be fair game for Cabrera.

JimR · « **Reply #32 on:** May 31, 2006, 03:17:34 pm »

money. the deal otherwise was done, but neither wanted to pay his salary. he is on the block as we speak. they want to move him to get more ABs for Delucci.

BizidyDizidy · « **Reply #33 on:** May 31, 2006, 03:18:27 pm »

I'm willing to kick in a 20. Anybody else?

JimR · « **Reply #35 on:** May 31, 2006, 06:20:57 pm »

big contract. some attitude. trading a guy while he still has value for what they need.

Astroholic · « **Reply #36 on:** May 31, 2006, 06:23:22 pm »

Trade gallo for a bucket of balls (don't even need the can of corn).

JimR · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2006, 11:10:02 am »

why is that, Zan? how much have you seen him pitch?

Reuben · « **Reply #44 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:13:30 am »

Also, what makes you think Gary Matthews' son is "worth peanuts"? He is off to a good start this year, at age 31.

Is it not too early to give up on Lane?

Zan · « **Reply #45 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:33:51 am »

I absolutely think it's too early to give up on Lane. I never intended to imply otherwise. I think he'll be good. I wouldn't want to trade him straight up for Matthews Jr.

And I think Zeke can be a good pitcher.

I just doubt that a team with a viable shot at the playoffs will offer someone having a good season for two players who don't seem like they'd help immediately. But I could be wrong.

Astroholic · « **Reply #46 on:** June 02, 2006, 10:01:45 am »

"I absolutely think it's too early to give up on Lane. I never intended to imply otherwise. I think he'll be good."

"And I think Zeke can be a good pitcher."

Well that certainly makes me feel better.

Astroholic · « **Reply #50 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:24:48 pm »

One can only hope that he snaps out of it. I am no huge fan, but then again I was not an Morgan fan. (not that that matters)

don_mynack · « **Reply #54 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:34:53 pm »

Lane is still a better long term option than Wilson, at least at this point. He has shown consistent power in the past, and is showing a some this year, despite his struggles with the average.

Astroholic · « **Reply #55 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:43:07 pm »

Great post. Thanks for adding your opinion.

don_mynack · « **Reply #57 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:57:06 pm »

No problemo. I'll try to keep the banality flowing.

MusicMan · « **Reply #61 on:** June 02, 2006, 03:26:48 pm »

I think that you meant is career status is at critical.

don_mynack · « **Reply #62 on:** June 02, 2006, 03:54:17 pm »

Possibly a symptom of that, uh, "unique" swing of his? Seriously, it looks like he's trying to hit himself with the bat.

Author Topic: Okay, let's play GM. (Read 9125 times)

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