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Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« on: August 19, 2012, 12:12:45 pm »
Your lineups for game numero uno of the deFrancesco era (he managed five players in today's lineup this season in OkC):

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RFGerardo Parra
2BAaron Hill
LFJason Kubel
1BPaul Goldschmidt
CMiguel Montero
CFChris Young
SSStephen Drew
3BRyan Wheeler
PIan Kennedy

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2B Jose Altuve  
3B Scott Moore  
1B Brett Wallace  
LF Fernando Martinez  
SS Tyler Greene  
RF Brian Bogusevic  
CF Brandon Barnes  
C Jason Castro  
P Armando Galarraga
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2012, 01:10:11 pm »
Not having Wallace at third is a good start for a manager, but I assume that is/was a Luhnow thing.

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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2012, 01:10:46 pm »
Galarraga is already starting to nibble. This could get ugly quickly.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2012, 01:13:24 pm »
Altuve is a good athlete and can make some really great plays, like the one he just made against Kubel. It's just the mental side where he seems to regularly fall short, although it's always trying to do too much. I can forgive most of that.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2012, 01:21:29 pm »
FeMart's bat looked slow on that 1-1 offering.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 01:24:14 pm »
Kennedy pitches around two free passes. 0-0 Top 2
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 01:24:18 pm »
Altuve is a good athlete and can make some really great plays, like the one he just made against Kubel. It's just the mental side where he seems to regularly fall short, although it's always trying to do too much. I can forgive most of that.

Regularly?  I'd say more along the lines of 'occasionally' falls short, as he is also 'occasionally' exhibits brilliance.   Doesn't particularly surprise me from a 22 year old...
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2012, 01:37:06 pm »
Regularly?  I'd say more along the lines of 'occasionally' falls short, as he is also 'occasionally' exhibits brilliance.   Doesn't particularly surprise me from a 22 year old...

It's more bit than occasionally. I stand by regularly. As far as occasional brilliance, I can recall only one brilliant exhibition, and that was letting a ball drop to get a double play early in the season. If that's occasionally, then it is.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2012, 01:37:22 pm »
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2012, 01:47:20 pm »
Galarraga has set down eight in a row now, Can he get through a sixth inning? I don't know, but he's in much better shape than he has been in his previous three starts.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2012, 01:53:09 pm »
The Astros' interleague "rival" next year is the Cardinals.  Does that make the Royals chopped liver?
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2012, 01:54:59 pm »
It's more bit than occasionally. I stand by regularly. As far as occasional brilliance, I can recall only one brilliant exhibition, and that was letting a ball drop to get a double play early in the season. If that's occasionally, then it is.

We'll agree to disagree...  Altuve certainly has his brain fart moments, but they do not come with enough frequency to make them a regularity... Now Starlin Castro, SS for FTC, regularly makes brain farts on the field and he, like Altuve, is very young and I think both will see the defensive brain farts lessen as they mature.

As for moments of 'brilliance', I was thinking both from an 'athletic' standpoint and 'intelligent' standpoint.  The only moment I can think of (off the top of my head) of 'Bagwellian level defensive genius' is the example that you just noted.  However, there've been a number of 'athletic genius' exhibitions by the kid - the flip to SS on the near DP last week comes immediately to mind and there have been a number of others as well.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2012, 01:57:52 pm »
Altuve has shown a lot of progress this year, IMO.

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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2012, 01:59:24 pm »
We'll agree to disagree...  Altuve certainly has his brain fart moments, but they do not come with enough frequency to make them a regularity... Now Starlin Castro, SS for FTC, regularly makes brain farts on the field and he, like Altuve, is very young and I think both will see the defensive brain farts lessen as they mature.

As for moments of 'brilliance', I was thinking both from an 'athletic' standpoint and 'intelligent' standpoint.  The only moment I can think of (off the top of my head) of 'Bagwellian level defensive genius' is the example that you just noted.  However, there've been a number of 'athletic genius' exhibitions by the kid - the flip to SS on the near DP last week comes immediately to mind and there have been a number of others as well.

Fair enough. Altuve is still raw and somewhat of a work-in-progress. However, the kid can rake and is a great athlete. I have every confidence that he's going to round into a stellar second sacker.  A potential perennial all-star.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2012, 02:01:33 pm »
Altuve has shown a lot of progress this year, IMO.

I absolutely agree. He's shown night and day improvement over last season.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2012, 02:04:32 pm »
I'm really going to be upset if this team doesn't show some development under their new manager.
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2012, 02:05:24 pm »
I'm really going to be upset if this team doesn't show some development under their new manager.

I expect better base running immediately!
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2012, 02:09:00 pm »
I'm really going to be upset if this team doesn't show some development under their new manager.

Don't look for overnight improvement or development, because I don't much hope in that.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2012, 02:10:49 pm »
Getting this joke off the bump might be a good move.

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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2012, 02:11:04 pm »
I expect better base running immediately!

Amen, counselor. JD just said that the Jakes will be an inter-league opponent next season. That's a FYB bone to gorveling new ownership.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2012, 02:11:46 pm »
Don't look for overnight improvement or development, because I don't much hope in that.

I think RonBRand just forgot to add the requisite "MrHappySarcometerAlert" tag before his post.  Make more sense now?!?  And unrelated to either post, damnit Galarraga, ENOUGH WITH THE FRIGGIN' WALKS ALREADY!!!
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2012, 02:11:52 pm »
It is not a pleasure to watch Galarraga pitch.

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2012, 02:12:36 pm »
Getting this joke off the bump might be a good move.

I agree. He's shown nothing to me.
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« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2012, 02:13:07 pm »
They're still shitty.
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2012, 02:13:29 pm »
Perhaps HOU can get Bud to establish a 'do over inning' rule for next year... UGH!!!
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2012, 02:14:55 pm »
They're still shitty.

They're actually worse than that. Millsie was lucky to have had his sentence commuted to time served.
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2012, 02:17:17 pm »
Why havent we seen Owens up in Houston yet?

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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2012, 02:19:37 pm »
I know I said I'd address that somewhere else, and I probably will, but it just grates me that now the assumption is that Mills should have developed his players. There's some development to take place in the majors, sure, but it's not the kind that should've already taken place in the minor leagues. The majors are where you work on adjustment, small changes, maintenance and the things you need to sustain longevity. This team is fundamentally unsound as we've seen every night.

Mills had his team out there doing extra work on fundamentals every day, instead of the things that grown-up major leaguers work on, because they are still minor leaguers or fringe guys. That's not his fault. Developing players to the extent that they should be at as major-league regulars shouldn't have been his job either. I think it's unreasonable to expect that he could be some sort of 'extended minor league training' while they're facing major league talent daily. Then when you throw in the churning cast he was given, what you end up with is an unwinnable situation.

I'm not here to praise Mills or his management. I think he was a better manager when he had better players. In previous seasons he was more aggressive with runners and hitters. That fell to complete conservatism and following the book because his players couldn't even execute the fundamentals on a daily basis. I can't judge his competence on something like the situation he's had to deal with, other than he was steady and didn't freak out in public or throw his guys under the bus in public. He was able somehow to keep a pretty positive face on every day. Based on that he's just another guy in the job, no miracle worker and no loose cannon.

Managers are hired to be fired. How it happened and when it happened really shouldn't be that much of a surprise. I thought he wouldn't make it this long but it seems that the situation in OKC played a part in this and that does surprise me.
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2012, 02:22:05 pm »
And really, aren't you guys watching? MRS. JACK IS BACK!
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2012, 02:24:07 pm »
As usual, RB, you nailed it. I agree wholeheartedly.
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« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2012, 02:25:09 pm »
And really, aren't you guys watching? MRS. JACK IS BACK!

Indeed. I'm digging that a lot.
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2012, 02:27:09 pm »
Damnit, Bogusevic. Another failed opportunity.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2012, 02:28:41 pm »
Damnit, Bogusevic. Another failed opportunity.

But he went the other way. Development!
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« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2012, 02:29:42 pm »

Managers are hired to be fired. How it happened and when it happened really shouldn't be that much of a surprise. I thought he wouldn't make it this long but it seems that the situation in OKC played a part in this and that does surprise me.
What situation in OKC?

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« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2012, 02:30:28 pm »
What situation in OKC?

Mutiny by several players, manager may or may not have lost the team. You can find more in the Bus Ride, I think.
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« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2012, 02:31:32 pm »
Well, fuck. Another Storey book inning, I guess.
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2012, 02:34:52 pm »
Mutiny by several players, manager may or may not have lost the team. You can find more in the Bus Ride, I think.
You mean rumored "mutiny", or "quitting" on the manager, but I still can't fathom in what way a AAA player could do that without severely damaging their own chances of being called up to the majors.
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2012, 02:36:44 pm »
Players liking Tony due to his "passion for the game" does some what strike me as some sort of euphemism.

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« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2012, 02:37:50 pm »
Mutiny by several players, manager may or may not have lost the team. You can find more in the Bus Ride, I think.
Oh, that. I thought it was second rate BS at the time.  That likelihood only seems greater to me now.  A guy on twitter tweets something.  Someone says he is reliable.  Truth is born.

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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2012, 02:40:05 pm »
You mean rumored "mutiny", or "quitting" on the manager, but I still can't fathom in what way a AAA player could do that without severely damaging their own chances of being called up to the majors.

Yes, rumored. Could be total BS, or smoke with not much fire, but surely not a raging inferno. The timing, coupled with Luhnow's saying that Mills' fate had been decided a week ago, seems interesting.
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2012, 02:43:11 pm »
Yes, rumored. Could be total BS, or smoke with not much fire, but surely not a raging inferno. The timing, coupled with Luhnow's saying that Mills' fate had been decided a week ago, seems interesting.

A week earlier? I guess that they wanted to wait until the club returned home.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2012, 02:46:08 pm »
Yes, rumored. Could be total BS, or smoke with not much fire, but surely not a raging inferno. The timing, coupled with Luhnow's saying that Mills' fate had been decided a week ago, seems interesting.
I am missing Luhnow's motivation in this scheme.  He has a manager who the players refuse to play for, and he senses this is an opportunity to hand him the reigns of the Astros?  

More than likely, he took it as the internet BS it is, because unlike the originator, he actually has reliable sources and hired a guy everyone reportedly respects.

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« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2012, 02:50:56 pm »
Who gives a shit? This is like to Podunk version of the sox chickenNbeer-gate.  Mills's firing had nothing to do with what went on at okc and Tony is likely nothing more than a warm body tossed on to front of this travelling horseshit show because someone has to at least tie the reins around his dick while the team moons the fans.


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« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2012, 02:51:33 pm »
I agree that he has the best sources, and I don't know anything about the truth of what that report was. The timing is interesting though.
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« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2012, 02:52:22 pm »
I am missing Luhnow's motivation in this scheme.  He has a manager who the players refuse to play for, and he senses this is an opportunity to hand him the reigns of the Astros?  

More than likely, he took it as the internet BS it is, because unlike the originator, he actually has reliable sources and hired a guy everyone reportedly respects.

I believe that DeFrancesco was the safest choice within the org, which makes sense to me. I don't understand why there's so much hubbub about the timing of this firing. The club was 39-82, for crying out loud.
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« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2012, 02:52:55 pm »
The best thing that has happened this season is more corona commercials.  Corona's taste in women is markedly superior to that of it's beer.

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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2012, 02:54:22 pm »
Who gives a shit? This is like to Podunk version of the sox chickenNbeer-gate.  Mills's firing had nothing to do with what went on at okc and Tony is likely nothing more than a warm body tossed on to front of this travelling horseshit show because someone has to at least tie the reins around his dick while the team moons the fans.



But some of the press are trying to create a headline by questioning the timing. Douchebags.
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« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2012, 02:56:04 pm »
But some of the press are trying to create a headline by questioning the timing. Douchebags.

 Agree with the characterization.  I guess they need something to write about during the dog days.

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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2012, 02:57:05 pm »
Kennedy is conducting a clinic in command up in the zone, particularly in on the hands.
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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2012, 03:00:35 pm »
Kennedy is showing some signs of losing command. Can we take advantage? Not if we keep swinging at balls outside of the strike zone.
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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2012, 03:05:43 pm »
I really like Wright's increased usage of his fastball.
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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2012, 03:12:35 pm »
Tyler Greene is having a nice little hot streak.
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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2012, 03:13:41 pm »
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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2012, 03:17:27 pm »
Tyler Greene is having a nice little hot streak.

I like Greene. I've always thought that he was better than his stats. I even owned him for a brief spell this season.
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« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2012, 03:19:09 pm »
Castro drives in Greene to end the whitewash. 5-1 now with two outs to Francisco.
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« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2012, 03:30:11 pm »
Wright is making a mess.
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« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2012, 03:33:14 pm »
At least we still have JD and Brownie.
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« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2012, 03:33:35 pm »
Damn, I thought Castro had that one.
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« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2012, 03:34:32 pm »
Fick. Without that passed ball, that's a double play and they're out of the inning.
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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2012, 03:34:50 pm »
Castro fails to get out in front of another one, which costs two runs and chases WW.
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« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2012, 03:36:02 pm »
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« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2012, 03:37:22 pm »
Fick. Without that passed ball, that's a double play and they're out of the inning.

You and I called it right. It was a passed ball. That's a play that I think even a good college catcher makes more often than not. Many of these so-called wild pitches this season are in fact on the catcher.
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« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2012, 03:38:01 pm »
You and I called it right. It was a passed ball. That's a play that I think even a good college catcher makes more often than not. Many of these so-called wild pitches this season are in fact on the catcher.

They scored that a wild pitch?
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« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2012, 03:38:32 pm »
I smell a chain whipping.
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« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2012, 03:39:13 pm »
Sigh. I think I've seen this movie before.

14,923 witness the live version of this shitfest, the first of probably 31 for DeFrancesco.
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« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2012, 03:39:28 pm »
That "hit" right there should be the sole clip in the Astros' season wrap-up film.
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« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2012, 03:40:06 pm »
They scored that a wild pitch?

That's what Brownie said.
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« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2012, 03:41:30 pm »
That's what Brownie said.

Man, that's ridiculous.
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« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2012, 03:43:20 pm »
It's nice to not have a center fielder that makes you cringe every time you see him.
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« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2012, 03:44:28 pm »
Man, that's ridiculous.

According to the box score on mlb.com, it was scored as a wild pitch.
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« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2012, 03:45:22 pm »
It's nice to not have a center fielder that makes you cringe every time you see him.

You're speaking of Schreefer, I take it?
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« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2012, 03:45:57 pm »
According to the head of the USGA recreational golf is facing a crisis.  The answer is to simplify the rules, evidently.
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« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2012, 03:47:07 pm »
You're speaking of Schreefer, I take it?

Yes. Barnes is not making me miss Schafer yet.
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« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2012, 03:47:32 pm »
According to the head of the USGA recreational golf is facing a crisis.  The answer is to simplify the rules, evidently.

Flat handicap.
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« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2012, 03:49:51 pm »
Yes. Barnes is not making me miss Schafer yet.

Me either. At least Barnes doesn't fake bunt every fucking at-bat.
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« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2012, 03:50:27 pm »
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« Reply #76 on: August 19, 2012, 03:51:09 pm »
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« Reply #77 on: August 19, 2012, 03:51:31 pm »
According to the head of the USGA recreational golf is facing a crisis.  The answer is to simplify the rules, evidently.

Seriously? The problem is that it takes six hours out of your day and $45 out of your pocket to play a round.
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« Reply #78 on: August 19, 2012, 03:51:59 pm »
Albers looking pretty good.
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« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2012, 03:52:46 pm »
Albers looking pretty good.

Yeah, he sure handled that inning.
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« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2012, 03:54:42 pm »
Yow. DBacks 55, Astros 19 for the season.
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« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2012, 03:55:51 pm »
Yow. DBacks 55, Astros 19 for the season.

That's not just bad; that's MLB versus AAA bad.
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« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2012, 03:57:41 pm »
Mr. Uncomfortable doing a presser after the game. Fun.
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« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2012, 04:00:18 pm »
Mr. Uncomfortable doing a presser after the game. Fun.

I had to step away. To whom are you referring?
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« Reply #84 on: August 19, 2012, 04:00:27 pm »
Castro fails to get out in front of another one, which costs two runs and chases WW.

Now I'd be behind you completely if you'd used the term 'regularly' to describe Castro's defensive miscues this season... UGH!
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« Reply #85 on: August 19, 2012, 04:00:36 pm »
I had to step away. To whom are you referring?

Crane.
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« Reply #86 on: August 19, 2012, 04:01:54 pm »
Now I'd be behind you completely if you'd used the term 'regularly' to describe Castro's defensive miscues this season... UGH!

I'd go with 'often' on Altuve's miscues, but my guess is that he's going to improve. He makes some real nice plays too.
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« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2012, 04:04:07 pm »
Big day for Aaron Hill.
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« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2012, 04:04:20 pm »
Now I'd be behind you completely if you'd used the term 'regularly' to describe Castro's defensive miscues this season... UGH!

I'm glad that you're on board for that. That makes me feel better. I know that I may seem too hard on Altuve, but in my opinion, his ceiling is higher than Castro's.
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« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2012, 04:05:41 pm »
They're comparing Mike Trout to Mays and Mantle? Man, that's a tough thing to do to a kid.
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« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2012, 04:09:11 pm »
I'd go with 'often' on Altuve's miscues, but my guess is that he's going to improve. He makes some real nice plays too.

Physically, I like Altuve's effort and his range, the geek stats be damned. It's the mental side where he makes too many flubs for me. But that'll be reduced with age and additional experience.
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« Reply #92 on: August 19, 2012, 04:09:48 pm »
They're comparing Mike Trout to Mays and Mantle? Man, that's a tough thing to do to a kid.

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« Reply #93 on: August 19, 2012, 04:10:31 pm »
They're comparing Mike Trout to Mays and Mantle? Man, that's a tough thing to do to a kid.

Speaking of comparisons... just posted this in the BusRide, but Whitey had some very complementary things to say about Carlos Correa:

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« Reply #94 on: August 19, 2012, 04:12:48 pm »
They're comparing Mike Trout to Mays and Mantle? Man, that's a tough thing to do to a kid.

That's really unfair to both Trout as well as Mays and Mantle. Trout may end up as another Norm Cash. What's your recap going to be about today?
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« Reply #95 on: August 19, 2012, 04:14:55 pm »
That's really unfair to both Trout as well as Mays and Mantle. Trout may end up as another Norm Cash. What's your recap going to be about today?

I really don't know. I gots no inspiration.
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« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2012, 04:15:26 pm »
Shaw's mechanics are substantially different than they were when we saw him earlier in the season, when he couldn't find the plate to save his life. They sent him out after an awful outing against us.
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« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2012, 04:17:29 pm »
When was the last time Wilton Lopez pitched in an 8-1 game?
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« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2012, 04:19:02 pm »
When was the last time Wilton Lopez pitched in an 8-1 game?

If you're going to hold him out for a lead, he may not pitch again this year.
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« Reply #99 on: August 19, 2012, 04:19:14 pm »
Tyler Greene! YOU SUCK! BOOOOOOOOOOO!
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« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2012, 04:20:55 pm »
Tyler Greene! YAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!
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« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2012, 04:21:13 pm »
Three outs left in this forgettable game.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2012, 04:22:26 pm »
Oh, so that's who Todd Akin is.  I guess he finally got mildly famous and now never to be heard from again.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2012, 04:23:56 pm »
This is going to be the tenth sweep already this season?  And if I'm not mistaken the Astros didn't get swept until late May or something like that. 
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #104 on: August 19, 2012, 04:27:00 pm »
This is going to be the tenth sweep already this season?  And if I'm not mistaken the Astros didn't get swept until late May or something like that. 


Ew. Of course, May was that hot streak, so that makes some sense.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2012, 04:28:01 pm »
First swept by Colorado, May 28-31.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #106 on: August 19, 2012, 04:29:21 pm »
First swept by Colorado, May 28-31.

Well, they've really packed them in nicely since then.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #107 on: August 19, 2012, 04:29:56 pm »
Swept five times in July. Four in June, I think.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #108 on: August 19, 2012, 04:30:11 pm »
First swept by Colorado, May 28-31.

That was up there, right? I seem to remember the pitching absolutely stepping on their collective dicks in that series.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #109 on: August 19, 2012, 04:32:35 pm »
Yep. 9-7, 7-6 (10), 13-5 and 11-5.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #110 on: August 19, 2012, 04:34:30 pm »
Astros lose, 56-19.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #111 on: August 19, 2012, 04:34:41 pm »
And this one mercifully comes to an end. 8-1 for the broom. BALLGAME
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2012, 04:34:51 pm »
Well, that happened.  And now I'm all out of kolaches.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #113 on: August 19, 2012, 04:36:45 pm »
FIRE THE MANAGER!
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #114 on: August 19, 2012, 04:37:38 pm »
Well, that happened.  And now I'm all out of kolaches.

I made it home with five. Soon to be four.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #115 on: August 19, 2012, 04:38:06 pm »
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2012, 04:38:56 pm »
And here is the rogue Mrs. Jack commercial, where she's messing around on him with another guy for United. The shame!
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2012, 04:56:24 pm »
Going from Levine's tweets, Crane expects to move pretty fast on finding a manager and hopes to have him in place by November 1. Says they've got "4-5 names" they're already considering.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2012, 04:59:36 pm »
"Tony would be in the mix."
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2012, 05:01:06 pm »
Man, they're in the middle of talking about the press conference and FOX SW cuts mid-sentence to the WNBA. That tells me everything I need to know.
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #120 on: August 19, 2012, 05:01:18 pm »
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #121 on: August 19, 2012, 05:02:55 pm »
Pena?

He did say that some of the candidates might be with other teams in the playoffs and wouldn't be available until after the season...
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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #122 on: August 19, 2012, 05:09:47 pm »
I made it home with five. Soon to be four.

Did you go to Shipley's and get some of the boudin ones?

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Re: Snakes @ Astros 08/19/12
« Reply #123 on: August 19, 2012, 05:42:35 pm »
Did you go to Shipley's and get some of the boudin ones?

I had forgotten how hard it can rain in Houston. The trip from the loop to Brookshire this morning was mildly terrifying.

No, I ended up going to Avalon Diner. I picked up a loaf of bread and some kolaches at Hruska's on the way home.

It was a good rain. I miss thick green grass in the yard.
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