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Tattoo Question
« on: November 18, 2011, 02:21:17 pm »
I'm sitting at Just Burgers (great green chile cheeseburger, by the way) on Louetta/Steubner Airline, which is across the street from Klein High School. As I watch the kids leave school, I notice that most of them are covered in tattoos. Not small ones, big ones all over. Especially the girls.  So my question is...I thought you had to be 18 to get a tattoo. Is that not correct?  Or do these kids get them illegally?
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Re: Tattoo Question
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 02:26:09 pm »
I'm sitting at Just Burgers (great green chile cheeseburger, by the way) on Louetta/Steubner Airline, which is across the street from Klein High School. As I watch the kids leave school, I notice that most of them are covered in tattoos. Not small ones, big ones all over. Especially the girls.  So my question is...I thought you had to be 18 to get a tattoo. Is that not correct?  Or do these kids get them illegally?

Just a wild guess, but maybe they have fake IDs...
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Re: Tattoo Question
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 02:36:00 pm »
Just a wild guess, but maybe they have fake IDs...

Possibly, but it's not like buying beer where you can do it secretly from your parents. Plus these girls definitely look 15. Not that it matters.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 02:37:54 pm »
Possibly, but it's not like buying beer where you can do it secretly from your parents. Plus these girls definitely look 15. Not that it matters.

Some places don't ask.  Some have parents' approval.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 02:39:58 pm »
Some places don't ask.  Some have parents' approval.

So you don't have to be 18 if you have parent approval?
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 02:40:50 pm »
So you don't have to be 18 if you have parent approval

That's correct, in Florida anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 02:50:45 pm »

RULE §229.406 Client Qualifications, Disclosure, and Records

(a) Except as permitted in subsections (c) and (d) of this section, a client must be a minimum of 18 years of age and shall present at the time of tattooing or body piercing a valid, government issued, positive identification card including, but not limited to, a driver's license, passport, or military identification. The identification must contain a photograph of the individual and a printed date of birth.


(b) The artist shall verify and document in the permanent client record the client's age, date of birth, and the type of identification provided.


(c) An artist may not tattoo a person younger than 18 years of age without consent from the individual's parent or guardian, who determines it to be in the best interest of the minor child to cover an existing tattoo.


(1) The existing tattoo must contain:


(A) obscene or offensive language or symbols;


(B) gang-related names, symbols, or markings;


(C) drug-related names, symbols, or pictures; or


(D) some other type of words, symbols or markings that the court considers would be in the best interest of the minor to cover.


(2) The consent required by subsection (c) can be satisfied by:


(A) a written and notarized consent by the individual's parent or guardian which shall contain:


(i) the full name, address, and telephone number of the client;


(ii) the full name, address, and telephone number of the parent or guardian;


(iii) a detailed description or photograph of the tattoo to be covered;


(iv) the location on the body of the tattoo to be covered; and


(v) the signatures of minor and parent or guardian; or


(B) the individual's parent or guardian:


(i) being physically present at the time the tattooing is being performed;


(ii) executing an affidavit stating that the person is the parent or guardian of the individual on whom the tattooing is being performed;


(iii) presenting evidence of the minor's identity to the artist; and


(iv) presenting evidence of the status as parent or guardian of the individual who will receive the tattoo to the artist.


(3) If a parent or guardian of the minor child and the minor child agree to the covering of the tattoo as described in subsection (c)(1) of this section, the artist may request the issuance of an order from a justice court.


(4) If the parent or guardian and the minor child do not agree to the covering of a tattoo by a artist, then an order must be issued by a district court or other court with jurisdiction of a suit affecting the parent-child relationship or a civil proceeding brought under Title 3 or 4 of the Texas Family Code before an artist may cover the minor child's tattoo.


(d) An artist may not perform body piercing on a person younger than 18 years of age without the consent of a parent, managing conservator, or guardian of the individual. The consent can be satisfied by:


(1) a written and notarized consent by the individual's parent, managing conservator, or guardian which shall contain:


(A) the full name, address, and telephone number of the client;


(B) the full name, address, and telephone number of the parent, managing conservator, or guardian;


(C) the location on the body that may be pierced; and


(D) the signatures of the minor and parent, managing conservator, or guardian; or


(2) the individual's parent, managing conservator, or guardian:


(A) being physically present at the time the body piercing is being performed;


(B) executing an affidavit stating that the person is the parent, managing conservator, or guardian of the individual on whom the body piercing is being performed;


(C) presenting evidence of the minor's identity to the artist; and


(D) presenting evidence of the status as parent, managing conservator, or guardian of the individual who will receive the body piercing to the artist.


(e) No person may be tattooed or body pierced who appears to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs.


(f) Tattooing and body piercing shall not be performed on any skin surface which manifests any evidence of unhealthy conditions such as rashes, boils, infections, or abrasions.


(g) Before receiving a tattoo, each client shall be informed verbally and in writing about the possible risk and dangers associated with the application of each tattoo. These shall include, but are not limited to, at least the following: the possibility of discomfort or pain; the permanence of the markings; the risk of infection; and the possibility of allergic reaction to the pigments or other materials used.


(h) Before receiving a body piercing, each client (and if applicable, the parent, managing conservator, or guardian) shall be informed verbally and in writing about the possible risks and dangers associated with receiving a body piercing. These shall include, but are not limited to, at least the following: the possibility of discomfort or pain; the possibility of scarring; the possibility of bleeding; the possibility of swelling; the risk of infection; the possibility of nerve damage; and the increased risk for adolescents during certain stages of development.


(i) The studio or temporary location shall maintain proper records of each client. The information shall be permanently recorded and made available for examination by the authorized agent. Records shall be maintained at the studio for at least two years following the date of the last entry. The temporary location client records shall be maintained by the license holder. These permanent records shall include the following:


(1) the name, address, and telephone number of the client;


(2) the date tattooing or body piercing was performed;


(3) the client's age, date of birth, and type of positive identification provided to the artist (this information is to be recorded by the artist as described in subsection (b) of this section);


(4) the specific color or colors of the tattoo or type of jewelry used for the piercing and, when available, the manufacturer's catalogue or identification number of each color or type of jewelry used;


(5) the location on the body where the tattoo or body piercing was performed;


(6) the name of the artist;


(7) a statement that the client has received a copy of applicable written care instructions, and that the client has read and understands the instructions; and


(8) the signature of the client.



Source Note: The provisions of this §229.406 adopted to be effective April 23, 2000, 25 TexReg 3272


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Re: Tattoo Question
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 03:14:34 pm »
So...no one under 18 can get a tattoo - parental consent or no - unless they already have one and then only to cover up the one they're not supposed to have?
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 03:15:57 pm »
So...no one under 18 can get a tattoo - parental consent or no - unless they already have one and then only to cover up the one they're not supposed to have?

From the very official looking tatoo law website I came across, yes, that seems to be the case.

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 03:22:08 pm »
My Dad gave me my only tattoo when I was about 4. I guess that is legal.

Of course, you may have to put on your spectacles to see it even if I pointed it out to you.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 03:31:57 pm »
My Dad gave me my only tattoo when I was about 4. I guess that is legal.

Of course, you may have to put on your spectacles to see it even if I pointed it out to you.

Ballpoint pen accident?

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 03:38:54 pm »
Ballpoint pen accident?

Ink well and quill. On purpose. My whole family has the same tattoo on our hands.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2011, 03:39:32 pm »
My Dad gave me my only tattoo when I was about 4. I guess that is legal.

Of course, you may have to put on your spectacles to see it even if I pointed it out to you.

So it's on your penis then.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2011, 03:39:36 pm »
Ink well and quill. On purpose. My whole family has the same tattoo on our hands.

"Left" and "Right"?
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 03:41:15 pm »
You all seem to assume these tattoos were done at a legitimate establishment.  Some probably have friends that will do one for htem for the practice.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2011, 03:45:28 pm »
From the very official looking tatoo law website I came across, yes, that seems to be the case.

What are the laws in Louisiana?  Seems perfectly teen-like to travel there for a tat.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2011, 03:46:12 pm »
You all seem to assume these tattoos were done at a legitimate establishment.  Some probably have friends that will do one for htem for the practice.

Yeah, that sorta went to my original question.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2011, 03:50:38 pm »
So it's on your penis then.

Not enough room?
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2011, 03:50:58 pm »
"Left" and "Right"?

Like I can read....
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2011, 04:14:35 pm »
What are the laws in Louisiana?  Seems perfectly teen-like to travel there for a tat.

"It is unlawful for anyone to tattoo or pierce a minor under age 18 without the consent of the minor's parent or legal custodian, who must accompany them to the procedure."

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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2011, 04:18:29 pm »
"It is unlawful for anyone to tattoo or pierce a minor under age 18 without the consent of the minor's parent or legal custodian, who must accompany them to the procedure."

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But really, what right-thinking parent wouldn't consent?  They can always get jail tattoos without your consent.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2011, 12:11:40 am »
My brother gave himself a tat at 14.

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 07:14:07 am »
Had a 70 + year old friend who is an ex marine show my 11 year old his tattoos.  He said "this is that a cool tattoo looks like when you get my age. not very cool huh".  My son told me not to worry. lets hope aversion therapy works for a little while. 
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