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« on: April 15, 2009, 04:00:43 pm »
Those of you with Gameday Audo or MLB.TV might want to tune into Boston-Oakland

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 04:11:27 pm »
thanks MM. By the way, didn't realize it was Jackie Robinson Day...
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 04:29:59 pm »
Oh wow Boston has an error!

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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2009, 04:30:16 pm »
Poof, and away it goes. Broken up by Kurt Suzuki with 1 out in the 8th.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2009, 04:31:27 pm »
Sorry, I brought it up as circumspectly as I could, unlike the Oakland announcer.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2009, 04:33:13 pm »
Sorry, I brought it up as circumspectly as I could, unlike the Oakland announcer.
The Red Sox homepage had it up too before it was broken up.

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2009, 04:33:47 pm »
I'm convinced Wakefield will be chunkin' knucklers well into his 50's...

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2009, 04:34:06 pm »
The Red Sox homepage had it up too before it was broken up.

MLB.com had a headline that said "WAKEFIELD TAKES NO-NO IN TO 8TH" when I went to jump on gameday.

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2009, 04:39:29 pm »
I remember listening to one of Dierker's This Date in Baseball History segments on the radio about 15 years ago, and he was telling a story of someone's no hitter.  I can't remember the pitcher, but he had one going, and as he ran out to the mound to warm up in the later innings, the opposing third base coach would remind him that he had a no hitter going.  He ended up getting the no hitter, but I can't for the life of me remember who it was or what team he was no hitting.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2009, 04:41:00 pm »
I'm convinced Wakefield will be chunkin' knucklers well into his 50's...
non-Astros aside, it's hard to think of a pitcher whom I'd like to see throw a no-hitter more than Tim Wakefield. This is the 4th time, I think they said, that he's taken one into the 8th or later (the longest being 8 1/3).
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 04:45:20 pm »
non-Astros aside, it's hard to think of a pitcher whom I'd like to see throw a no-hitter more than Tim Wakefield. This is the 4th time, I think they said, that he's taken one into the 8th or later (the longest being 8 1/3).

I second that...I have always liked Wakefield.  I wish there were more knuckleballers out there, seems to be a dying art.

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 04:52:32 pm »
I'm convinced Wakefield will be chunkin' knucklers well into his 50's...

I sure hope so. I had high hopes for Steve Sparks, who had a similar style knuckleball, but he peetered out in his late 30's.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 04:56:06 pm »
Wakefield throws a CG, with 111 pitches! Woo hoo! Good for Francona to allow him to finish a good start.
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2009, 05:09:26 pm »
I second that...I have always liked Wakefield.  I wish there were more knuckleballers out there, seems to be a dying art.

Has it ever been a flourishing art?
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2009, 05:12:26 pm »
Has it ever been a flourishing art?

Hey now. Among us denial leaguers whose arms are shot or never been worthwhile.
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 05:14:36 pm »
Hey now. Among us denial leaguers whose arms are shot or never been worthwhile.

I think Nick Swisher struck somebody out with a knuckler the other day.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2009, 05:16:27 pm »
I think Nick Swisher struck somebody out with a knuckler the other day.

I was watching that game. It sure looked like a knuckleball.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2009, 05:30:03 pm »
Has it ever been a flourishing art?

Not sure if "flourishing" would be the word, but there is a list compiled that I googled up of knucklers.  Jared Fernandez used to be on the squad, no? 

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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2009, 04:59:51 pm »
Those of you with Gameday Audo or MLB.TV might want to tune into Boston-Oakland

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Along those lines, you may want to check out the Arizona vs. SF game. A former Astro has turned back the clock.

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2009, 05:03:26 pm »
Along those lines, you may want to check out the Arizona vs. SF game. A former Astro has turned back the clock.

Ok, that was fast. Ojeda doubles on the first pitch of the seventh to break up Randy's no-hitter.

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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2009, 09:46:45 pm »
Jared Fernandez used to be on the squad, no?  http://www.oddball-mall.com/knuckleball/list.htm

A former champion breakdancer (according to him), he had a nickname from his Utah days, something "Pop", I cannot remember.  I think he threw a screwball, too, but I could be wrong about that.  Needeless to say, none of his pitches were very impressive.  I think he ended up in Japan for a few seasons.  They embrace knucklers over there.


. . .I had high hopes for Steve Sparks, who had a similar style knuckleball, but he peetered out in his late 30's.

I met Sparks in a bar once, interesting guy.  In person he looks like a movie star.  He has some thoughts about the knuckleball, he said he was never in any situation with any team in the U.S. where the knuckleball was accepted as a valid pitch, it was always looked upon by his managers and coaches as an anomaly or worse.  He felt there was an institutional disregard for the knuckleball, so anyone employing it was facing an uphill battle.  Even a guy like one of the Niekros or Wakefield, successful throwing the pitch for years and years, was immediately highly suspect at the first sign of a falling off of effectiveness, or a slump.

I may be wrong, but it seems there is more than one kind of knuckleball pitcher.  Some, like Wakefield, seem to throw it almost all the time.  Whereas Phil and especially Joe Niekro mixed in fastballs and/or some other off-speed pitch regularly.  Some claim to have some control over the knuckler, others say they don't have any more idea than the batter where it is going once it leaves their hand.

Was what Hooton threw officially considered a knuckler?  Or not?  I am guessing the latter.  I never see him referred to as a knuckleball pitcher; at the time, he called his money pitch as a "knuckle-curve" I think, something like that.  He was primarily a conventional pitcher, now that I think of it, but when he whipped out that "pitch of mixed parentage", whatever it was, he was almost unhittable.

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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2009, 10:15:51 pm »
A former champion breakdancer (according to him), he had a nickname from his Utah days, something "Pop", I cannot remember.  I think he threw a screwball, too, but I could be wrong about that.  Needeless to say, none of his pitches were very impressive.  I think he ended up in Japan for a few seasons.  They embrace knucklers over there.

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