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« on: May 14, 2008, 12:44:55 pm »
Wonder if you think so?

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One of the talk-show guys was going on and on the other morning about all the problems the Astros had. Michael Bourn. J.R. Towles. Lack of depth in the rotation. When he stopped screaming, I asked why he was emphasizing the negative at a time when the Astros were playing well.

''That's what we do,'' he said.

Negative sells. So do Britney Spears, sexual innuendo, hangovers, liberals and foreigners. They're the staple of sports talk at some stations. If it sells, it's good. If it sells and it's really loud, it's really good. One juvenille guffaw is worth two shout-downs. When the Astros are going good, interest in this blog declines. People don't want to know about the eight million cats that didn't get caught up in the tree.

They want to tell you that the owner is cheap and the GM is an idiot and everyone knows the manager should have bunted in the fifth inning. It may be why we like sports.

You don't need a degree. You don't experience. You just need volume and opinion. If you sound like you know what you're talking about, then you may know what you're talking about. If you're really loud, you might even get a talk show.

It's also what happens pretty much in blogs and fansite message boards too.  Sad to say.

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They need a CF that is not so Adam Everett-like. Bourn is horrible at the plate, but plays decent defense. Your leadoff hitter cannot have a batting avg below the Mendoza line. Bourn for Luke Scott. Then put Pence back in CF and Scott in RF.

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 12:54:29 pm »
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Please Ed Wade sign Jim Edmonds today after he clears waivers and cut Cruz JR. TOday before the cubs get him! Please listen, this is a much better bench with Edmonds power and switch him with Bourn in Center. Edmonds has always lit up Minute Maid Park! You are stupid if you don't do this, you can get him for nothing ( minimum sal.)
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 01:16:48 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 01:28:05 pm »
hmm.

Fans don't need a reason to be stupid, doesn't matter what *anyone* says.  Fans will be fans.

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 01:31:31 pm »
Fans don't need a reason to be stupid, doesn't matter what *anyone* says.  Fans will be fans.

Yeah, but stupid in your house or even in a bar is different from stupid on the internet or talk radio.


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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 01:33:44 pm »
Yeah, but stupid in your house or even in a bar is different from stupid on the internet or talk radio.

Of course.  Makes you wonder if any of these people are your neighbors?  Wow, what a frightening thought!

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 01:42:58 pm »
Yeah, but stupid in your house or even in a bar is different from stupid on the internet or talk radio.



Look, mister, there's... two kinds of dumb, uh... guy that gets naked and runs out in the snow and barks at the moon, and, uh, guy who does the same thing in my living room. First one don't matter, the second one you're kinda forced to deal with.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 01:44:14 pm »
I guess I'm the only one who's getting the rich, deep aroma of irony from Pinwheel's post.  If anyone's a culprit in the sensationalistic, "lemme throw some bullshit against the wall and see what sticks" approach to sports coverage these days, it's him.  I long for the bygone days when he was looked on as a solid reporter who had a gift for snappy prose.
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 01:49:53 pm »
I guess I'm the only one who's getting the rich, deep aroma of irony from Pinwheel's post.  If anyone's a culprit in the sensationalistic, "lemme throw some bullshit against the wall and see what sticks" approach to sports coverage these days, it's him.  I long for the bygone days when he was looked on as a solid reporter who had a gift for snappy prose.

That changed when they retired Herskowitz and made Dick the "Lead Columnist".  Along with the title goes the burden of "getting people talking".

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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 01:50:35 pm »
I guess I'm the only one who's getting the rich, deep aroma of irony from Pinwheel's post.  If anyone's a culprit in the sensationalistic, "lemme throw some bullshit against the wall and see what sticks" approach to sports coverage these days, it's him.  I long for the bygone days when he was looked on as a solid reporter who had a gift for snappy prose.


I dunno about irony or sarcasm in Pinwheel's entry today.  I sincerely do not.  Then again, I'm 0h-fer-Towles in batting average on picking up on sarcasm these days.  I do know that when you listen to Pinwheel's show, you get a different feel for his reports on the team than you do on his blog or even some of his columns.  Today's column about Berkman is great though.  Is he stooping to becoming a good columnist and blogger nowadays?  I dunno, maybe so.  Then again there is that phenomena know as the "blind squirrel effect".
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 01:51:25 pm »
Even a broken Pinwheel can be right twice a day.
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I dunno about irony or sarcasm in Pinwheel's entry today.  I sincerely do not.  Then again, I'm 0h-fer-Towles on batting average on picking up on sarcasm these days.  I do know that when you listen to Pinwheel's show, you get a different feel for his reports on the team than you do on his blog or even some of his columns.  Today's entry about Berkman is great though.  Is he stooping to becoming a good columnist and blogger nowadays?  I dunno, maybe so.  Then again there is that phenomena know as the "blind squirrel effect".

The current claim is that Dick feels it's his responsibility to represent the pulse of the community.  Even when the community is a bunch of douchenozzles.

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2008, 01:54:30 pm »
The current claim is that Dick feels it's his responsibility to represent the pulse of the community. 

Don't they have the comment section for that?

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Even when the community is a bunch of douchenozzles.

When are they not?
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2008, 01:54:40 pm »
Yeah, but stupid in your house or even in a bar is different from stupid on the internet or talk radio.


That's why I came to this site.  First Astros message board I came across that didn't have 20 threads yelling "Fire the Manager!!!" or "Player X sucks and I hate him, but certainly we could trade him for Manny Ramirez!" after a loss.  Also, this site has a mild walnut flavor.
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2008, 01:54:53 pm »
Along with the title goes the burden of "getting people talking".

"People don't want to know about the eight million cats that didn't get caught up in the tree." - Richard "Pinwheel" Justice

Your honor, if I may, I would like to enter the following statement made by the defendant as exhibit A by the prosecution in the matter of "what does it require to be a lead columnist".

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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2008, 01:57:44 pm »
(Richard Justice 3/11/07) "...the people who've already decided that Hunter Pence should be on the team and that Chris Burke (or anyone else) should be benched are complete idiots."

(Richard Justice 3/12/07) "If today was opening day, I'd go with: Biggio 2b, Pence cf,..."

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2008, 02:00:55 pm »
(Richard Justice 3/11/07) "...the people who've already decided that Hunter Pence should be on the team and that Chris Burke (or anyone else) should be benched are complete idiots."

(Richard Justice 3/12/07) "If today was opening day, I'd go with: Biggio 2b, Pence cf,..."

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2008, 02:02:02 pm »
(Richard Justice 3/11/07) "...the people who've already decided that Hunter Pence should be on the team and that Chris Burke (or anyone else) should be benched are complete idiots."

(Richard Justice 3/12/07) "If today was opening day, I'd go with: Biggio 2b, Pence cf,..."

Right.  He's representin'.
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2008, 02:04:50 pm »
Also, this site has a mild walnut flavor.

It's also dry, full-bodied, with a hint of vanilla. 
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2008, 02:05:47 pm »
It's also dry, full-bodied, with a hint of vanilla. 

and, like in Lubbock, an overpowering odor of bullshit when the wind is right
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 02:07:48 pm »
The current claim is that Dick feels it's his responsibility to represent the pulse of the community.  Even when the community is a bunch of douchenozzles.

Did he say/write that? Fantastic.  That's why I love Pinwheel,

May 1 blog, headline,

'We're the sixth most miserable sports town, and it's your fault.

It's certainly not my fault. I write great columns and blogs and do a fantastic sports talk show. ...Anyway, my point is, Houston can't be a great sports town without a great sports columnist. I'm that columnist."

Logically, if he represents the pulse of the community, which are a bunch of slack jawed ninnies, wouldn't his columns, blogs, radio show represent himself as a slack jawed ninny?
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 02:09:34 pm »
and, like in Lubbock, an overpowering odor of bullshit when the wind is right

Lubbock has an overpowering odor of bullshit in all prevailing winds.
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2008, 02:13:30 pm »
The current claim is that Dick feels it's his responsibility to represent the pulse of the community.  Even when the community is a bunch of douchenozzles.

And I might add this for the vast SnS audience to consider:

Houston has been struggling for many years to become a baseball town.  We have only 40 years of major league baseball to fall back on and it's been a journey to get to the point of saying we're on the cusp of being a baseball town.  I forget where I read this column, but it was about the Tampa Rays.  Tampa is enjoying the new found success of being a good club that is actually contending right now in the AL East, what is considered the toughest division in the majors.  The article though was about the lack of attendance to the ballpark for the good young exciting Rays.  Good team, winning, success... bad attendance.  See, in a baseball town, the "good team, winning, success" would equal good attendence.  In a GREAT baseball town, even the lack of success would probably still mean good attendence (not great, just good).  Even the young Florida Marlins, winners of two world series and now with a good young team that is leading the NL East, attendance is hard to come by.

So it is my contention that what makes a town, a city a good baseball town/city is time.  Along the way it helps to have success... of any kind.  But time builds relationship between fan and club.  It takes at least two generations of following a club to make them "my club".  The Houston Astros are on the verge of that very thing, drawing more and more of the "my Astros" fans and when the next generation comes along... look out!  But along the way, the bumps in the road with all the attention the club is now getting, comes a woeful lack of understanding for the game itself.  See, the Houston Rockets have a simpler game to follow and thus the generation of fans following the only major league organization to bring a championship (two actually, ahum... sorry about that Dynamo and Aeros... I'm talking big three major sports here) to this town/city, can easily crowd fansites and talk radio and speak about "trading McGrady" or "get Mike Miller" almost without being entirely off base.  Of course, the Texans have it easier even than the Rockets in terms of fans because Houston and the entire freaking state of Texas is football crazy.  They all live for football and can tell you by and large what is the need for the team, even if it's a left tackle or a pulling guard (two things I have no clue about nor would be able to tell you the difference).

So with this growth comes the growing pains for the fandom of baseball and the Astros, two things that could be considered two distinct items.  I can't complain about this growth, just learn to deal with it in terms of fandom because if a majority of my so-called baseball loving fan brethren of the Astros go to a game to do the wave, watch the cap races, enjoy the nachos and hope to heck to see 15 homeruns hit by the hometown nine and for Oswalt to record 27 strikeouts... in a row... then who am I to say that they're wrong?  Nobody, that's who.  But you can't dummy down this game either.  You can only inform and dialogue with those of like mine I suppose. 

One day, those scary neighbors who talk to you over the fence about "the Astros problems are that they don't get a catcher who can hit over 300 and hit 40 homeruns... like Pete Rose did for Cincy!", will indeed grow up with more understanding and appreciation for the game.  At least Footer has the patience to answer them and inform... we've got that much going for all of us!
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2008, 02:13:31 pm »
Did he say/write that? Fantastic.  That's why I love Pinwheel,

May 1 blog, headline,

'We're the sixth most miserable sports town, and it's your fault.

It's certainly not my fault. I write great columns and blogs and do a fantastic sports talk show. ...Anyway, my point is, Houston can't be a great sports town without a great sports columnist. I'm that columnist."

Logically, if he represents the pulse of the community, which are a bunch of slack jawed ninnies, wouldn't his columns, blogs, radio show represent himself as a slack jawed ninny?


It was relayed to me second hand (not the douchenozzle bit), but it was presented as an explanation as to why it's okay for his opinion to change day to day.  Also nothing in the blog counts.  Just the paper.

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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2008, 02:14:33 pm »
(Richard Justice 3/11/07) "...the people who've already decided that Hunter Pence should be on the team and that Chris Burke (or anyone else) should be benched are complete idiots."

(Richard Justice 3/12/07) "If today was opening day, I'd go with: Biggio 2b, Pence cf,..."

07?  You have to go to 07 to find a classic Pinwheel?  What's wrong with last week?

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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2008, 02:17:40 pm »
(Richard Justice 3/11/07) "...the people who've already decided that Hunter Pence should be on the team and that Chris Burke (or anyone else) should be benched are complete idiots."

(Richard Justice 3/12/07) "If today was opening day, I'd go with: Biggio 2b, Pence cf,..."

Richard Justice at his finest.

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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2008, 02:18:02 pm »
07?  You have to go to 07 to find a classic Pinwheel?  What's wrong with last week?

I've stopped paying attention to him.

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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2008, 02:22:38 pm »
I don't think he was being self-consciously ironic with today's post.  He does do a helluva job of self-promotion, and wouldn't dare undercut that hard work by doing anything legitimately self-deprecating. 

It's a tough job doing what Noe described: educating an entire fanbase in the nuances of a complex game.  It's often a lot easier to just simply keep stirring the pot and give the masses what they're clamoring for.
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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2008, 02:23:43 pm »
I've stopped paying attention to him.

Good man.  Today's blog entry and column were actually very good.  I was surprised by them actually, thinking it was his job to find what's wrong with Berkman's game (favorite cold water remark by media and even some players/pundits "It won't last...") and also why the Astros are still a .500 or worse club and will be in last place come September.

Today, he at least did neither and still the fans want to drag him into the negativity Moriarity!  As if he really needs prodding of course... but today, he's not doing it and good for him.

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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2008, 02:29:59 pm »
I don't think he was being self-consciously ironic with today's post.  He does do a helluva job of self-promotion, and wouldn't dare undercut that hard work by doing anything legitimately self-deprecating. 

It's a tough job doing what Noe described: educating an entire fanbase in the nuances of a complex game.  It's often a lot easier than just simply stirring the pot and giving the masses what they're clamoring for.

Yup, unless he want's Footer's job of answering the mailbag, he's got a tough job ahead of him to bring the level of understanding for this game up a bit for the mass audience out there.  But they're coming to the game, they're turning the turnstiles, they're wearing their Astros jerseys and caps.  See, that's progress, even if it comes with clap sticks (that sound's horrible!) and waves.  If a columnist wants to keep his job in a  major market newspaper, he's going to have to know his audience.  Much of what I read has little or no substance when it comes to baseball and a lot of substance when it comes to the Houston area sports audience.  You can't get away with lack of substance as it were in terms of the Rockets and Texans, but you can a little with Astros talk.  Try as he could to explain the immense value of Adam Everett to the great unwashed, Pinwheel had to give up that fight a long time ago and agree with all of them that yes, AE was a miserable player on all those successful Houston Astros teams.  In fact, he actually never relented and stuck to his guns that fans did not appreciate AE like the players and coaches did (and also any other baseball understanding person).

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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2008, 02:49:28 pm »
Lubbock has an overpowering odor of bullshit in all prevailing winds.
                       

I have a Lubbock story that I almost included in my last preview. Yeah, it would have smelled like bullshit too.                         

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« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2008, 02:59:50 pm »
                       

I have a Lubbock story that I almost included in my last preview. Yeah, it would have smelled like bullshit too.                         

I think anyone that's been to Lubbock for more than say... 15 seconds, can tell you a story that at least wafts of bullshit.
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« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2008, 03:02:33 pm »
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Did he say/write that? Fantastic.  That's why I love Pinwheel,

May 1 blog, headline,

'We're the sixth most miserable sports town, and it's your fault.

It's certainly not my fault. I write great columns and blogs and do a fantastic sports talk show. ...Anyway, my point is, Houston can't be a great sports town without a great sports columnist. I'm that columnist."

Logically, if he represents the pulse of the community, which are a bunch of slack jawed ninnies, wouldn't his columns, blogs, radio show represent himself as a slack jawed ninny?

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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2008, 03:25:26 pm »
I think anyone that's been to Lubbock for more than say... 15 seconds, can tell you a story that at least wafts of bullshit.

I grew up in Lubbock so I had 18 years for the layers of bullshit to accumulate. Over time those sedimentary bullshit layers have been transformed through heat and stress into fecal diamonds. Unfortunately, no one has yet found an industrial application so I'm pretty much stuck with it.

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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2008, 03:27:39 pm »
I grew up in Lubbock so I had 18 years for the layers of bullshit to accumulate. Over time those sedimentary bullshit layers have been transformed through heat and stress into fecal diamonds. Unfortunately, no one has yet found an industrial application so I'm pretty much stuck with it.

You could sell them to guys who are proposing at the ballpark.  But that's a pretty shitty way to make a buck.
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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2008, 03:38:34 pm »
...hope to heck to see....Oswalt to record 27 strikeouts... in a row...

I...uh...actually wouldn't mind seeing something like that....
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« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2008, 03:44:29 pm »
and, like in Lubbock, an overpowering odor of bullshit when the wind is right

Other times, it smells of leather and rich mahogany. ETA: The TZ, that is. Lubbock just fluctuates between overpowering and subtle, always within the bullshit spectrum.
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« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2008, 03:47:03 pm »
Other times, it smells of leather and rich mahogany.

No, Milton Berle never went to Lubbock.
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« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2008, 03:54:52 pm »
Other times, it smells of leather and rich mahogany. ETA: The TZ, that is. Lubbock just fluctuates between overpowering and subtle, always within the bullshit spectrum.


I like to think of the TZ as a cross between an upscale cigar bar with leather chairs and fine cognac and an old west saloon.
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You could sell them to guys who are proposing at the ballpark.  But that's a pretty shitty way to make a buck.

That would make for a very awkward honeymoon. Just imagine a new bride lying in her honeymoon bed after a night of sloppy passion, cuddling with her new husband in wedded bliss, when suddenly she realizes her finger smells like Lubbock.

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That would make for a very awkward honeymoon. Just imagine a new bride lying in her honeymoon bed after a night of sloppy passion, cuddling with her new husband in wedded bliss, when suddenly she realizes her finger smells like Lubbock.

You're right... a new bride has frequently not yet learned such a trick.

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ETA: The TZ, that is. Lubbock just flatulates between overpowering and subtle, always within the bullshit spectrum.
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« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2008, 10:58:48 am »
Sorry to cut in on the Lubbock Chamber of Commerce rehabilitation---it's some funny stuff, too, but my only concern is that Drayton apparently LISTENS to a number of these sports shows, based on his allegedly unscheduled calling into them at times.  I fear that he lets smart "sounding" personalities like Pallilo and, well, Pallilo influence his thinking on personnel and management a tad too much. 

Charlie's as bright as they come for stats, recall and relevance of sporting events, but he's a tad "out there" when he starts making lineup, roster and strategy recommentations, regardless of what sport he's describing. 

For example, he's been making the blanket statement that moving Bourn to 8th in the order seems to be a no-brainer.  Well, Coop gets on the radio with him and VERY politely, I thought, added a simple explanation as to why he must keep Jason where....urrrrrr....Michael* where he is; did so without being confrontational, basically telling him he didn't know what he was talking without having to use those words.

It will be interesting to see if Charlie kills that point in future soliloquies on the team or if he keeps running with it, because he prefers to go with the flow of what his audience vomits up to him.


* Sorry, but the whole Bourne/Bourn confusion here amuses me

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... Well, Coop gets on the radio with him and VERY politely, I thought, added a simple explanation as to why he must keep Jason where....urrrrrr....Michael* where he is; did so without being confrontational, kinda like the REALLY patient father telling his son that, "No, shinola and shit ARE in fact different."

It will be interesting to see if Charlie kills that point in future soliloquies on the team or if he keeps running with it, because he prefers to go with the flow of what his audience vomits up to him.


* Sorry, but the whole Bourne/Bourn confusion here amuses me

"He'd done it before."

"without being confrontational"...Yes, that's the hard part.  Especially when you realize what may be at stake.   Was Cooper's explanation that Bourn has leadoff before?  And Pallilo will not let it go, unless he's proven absolutely and systematically with concrete examples of why he's wrong, then he simply wont mention it ever again.  He'll be on to some other knee jerk blather.

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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2008, 11:22:56 am »
If memory serves, Coops said he wants hitters batting behind Bourn, not pitchers; that the advantages of his speed get downplayed batting 8th; that Kaz isn't comfortable in the leadoff, so he can't bat Bourn in the 2 hole; and that he's not a 7 hole hitter. 

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« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2008, 11:24:42 am »
If memory serves, Coops said he wants hitters batting behind Bourn, not pitchers; that the advantages of his speed get downplayed batting 8th; that Kaz isn't comfortable in the leadoff, so he can't bat Bourn in the 2 hole; and that he's not a 7 hole hitter. 

Sorry I can't remember specifics.

Thanks for the information.  This fits with other things I've seen/been thinking about.   And, if Bourn hits 8th, Towles hits 7th? 

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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2008, 11:27:16 am »
"without being confrontational"...Yes, that's the hard part.  Especially when you realize what may be at stake.

He did the exactly same thing he used to do with Garner.  He waited for the skip to be off air and then he voiced his opinion about how wrong the skip was on that one.  The guys at 790 used to do that with GM Purpura as well.  That irked me, because if you think he's wrong, then tell him.  But I seem to remember someone, either Pallilo or the Davies and Dukes guys say (and I'm pretty sure it was Davies and Dukes) that if they actually called the GM out (and the Skip) on things they thought were wrong, they'd cut the show short and leave.  So they waited until they were off the air to call them liars.  See they figure they play nice *during* the segment and then cut them to pieces when they were off the air.

Cowards.

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Was Cooper's explanation that Bourn has leadoff before?

I actually listened in and Cooper had some rational reasons why he won't move him and some really keen insight on what Michael is working on.  It leads to some hope that it's just a matter of time.  But to explain to someone who doesn't understand the idea of approach, mechanics, working on adjustments and only understands "stats" (as Pallillo is prone to do) is hard to get across the message.  Very hard.

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And Pallilo will not let it go, unless he's proven absolutely and systematically with concrete examples of why he's wrong, then he simply wont mention it ever again.  He'll be on to some other knee jerk blather.

Pallilo is about stats and understanding the game at that level.  He understands it at that level because it makes him sound intelligent and informed, but he's just that side of misinformed when it comes to listening to a guy like Coop (or Garner) explain calmly and rationally why we're seeing some very good things from Bourn lately.  Very good.

It's podcast for anyone who wants to listen and they allow you to download it.  Perhaps I can download and cut the snippet out for the part about Bourn for you to listen to.  What I want folks to hear is what Cooper is saying because it's very, very, very important to understand why Bourn is making strides to get better.  Listen to what Bourn is working on to get said understanding.
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Cowards.

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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2008, 11:43:24 am »
Might want to throw vanity in there, too.  Have to try to save face with their sycophant callers and listeners.  "We're not stupid; the BASEBALL people are!"
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« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2008, 11:45:17 am »
You'll get no argument from me. 

This manuever, trick of the trade, methodology to doing interviews with the manager or General Manager must be something that is normal in the Northeast.  Pallilo comes from New York and Davies comes from the same area and they do the exact same thing.  They place nice-nice with the interviewee... never once challenging the information given to them... and then when the guy hangs up, they rip them to shreds.  Pallilo is a little nicer than Davies, who I personally think is the worse sports talk radio guy in the Houston area.  But that is a style that I personally cannot stand.  We're in Texas... you got something to say, say it... don't be a coward about it.

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« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2008, 11:51:31 am »
I actually listened in and Cooper had some rational reasons why he won't move him and some really keen insight on what Michael is working on.  It leads to some hope that it's just a matter of time.  But to explain to someone who doesn't understand the idea of approach, mechanics, working on adjustments and only understands "stats" (as Pallillo is prone to do) is hard to get across the message.  Very hard.

Rotoworld, a favorite reference for the Smrt Set, on Bourn

"...it's past time they dropped him to the eighth or ninth spot in the order. Hunter Pence can replace him in the leadoff spot"
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I actually listened in and Cooper had some rational reasons why he won't move him and some really keen insight on what Michael is working on.  It leads to some hope that it's just a matter of time.  But to explain to someone who doesn't understand the idea of approach, mechanics, working on adjustments and only understands "stats" (as Pallillo is prone to do) is hard to get across the message.  Very hard.

Can you expound on what Cooper said and what you agreed with in relation to Bourn?

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« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2008, 11:54:23 am »
Might want to throw vanity in there, too.  Have to try to save face with their sycophant callers and listeners.  "We're not stupid; the BASEBALL people are!"

Here is the obvious manuever with listeners and callers, even to make himself sound much more smarter than them:

(Pallilo) "Come on, in the last X days, Bourn is hitting blah, blah, blah... with an OPS of blah, blah, blah... if you take that and extrapolate it to the next month, he's on pace to be the worse leadoff hitter in the history of the game."

So he sounds smart and informed and it's not about incorrectly stating factual information, but it's fantacrap stuff... not baseball.  People tend to lump meta-baseball into the same arena as baseball itself and while there is a symbiotic relationship with both, it's not a complete picture that Pallilo is painting for his listeners and callers.  Many of them call in with warp observations to begin with so it's not that hard to discount what they say with cold hard statistical facts.  But even the best sabrematricians strive to go beyond just the stats in front of them and use proper filtering to cut the noise out and really hone in on performance.  Not improvement nor anything resembling that, just performance.

And this is where sounding intelligent and actually knowing what you're talking about in terms of baseball on the whole part ways.  Cecil Cooper told Pallilo more than once that he's "old school" which sounds like Cooper is putting himself down given how Pallilo leans heavily on stats. 

But he's not putting himself down, he's trying to inform Pallilo that unless he's there watching what Bourn is working on, he has no idea what to look for in each at bat and in each game to see whether Bourn is working his way towards better performance stats... or not.  Moving him down is not going to make a bit of difference if Bourn doesn't have an idea of what he needs to work on and that pretty much means that if he does, leaving him at leadoff is okay as long as Skip is seeing the fruits of what he's trying to change in his approach.  It isn't about stats because they will fool you, it's about watching and seeing if Bourn is a hard out right now because eventually those outs will become hits.

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« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2008, 11:55:12 am »
Can you expound on what Cooper said and what you agreed with in relation to Bourn?

Cutting up the audio right now for you guys to listen.  I agreed on Bourn's approach that he's working on.  I can see him doing it the last week or so too.
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Rotoworld, a favorite reference for the Smrt Set, on Bourn

"...it's past time they dropped him to the eighth or ninth spot in the order. Hunter Pence can replace him in the leadoff spot"
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Rotoworld is fantasy baseball.  'nuff said.

BTW - quick, name the player on the Astros that has the most RBIs in month of May?  If you said Lance Berkman, you were right, he of the red hot bat and leading the NL in RBIs.  Now, name the second most RBIs in the month of May?  Hint, he's hitting in the middle of the order behind guys who are getting on base quite often, namely Matsui, Tejada, Berkman and Lee.  And he's picking up quite a bit of RBIs too, almost matching what Berkman is doing in that category for the month of May.  This player, if he were taken out of the middle of the lineup would require Cooper to get the same production from either Ty Wiggington (hurt most of the season), Mark Loretta, JR Towles or Geoff Blum.

Think about that for just a minute, m'kay.  If you were to take this person, who is driving in runs in the middle of the order, out of that position for whatever reason, you would have to rely on others who aren't producing as commonly as him.  So you would revert *back* to the days of Ensberg, Lane, Preston Wilson not producing in the 5 or 6 hole of the lineup and then having to rely on Ausmus or Everett to drive in runs.

So if you had Towles and Bourn in the 7 and 8 hole, congratulations: You just made the Houston Astros revert back to several years ago when fans were frustrated at the inability of the team to drive in runs from the 5 and 6 hole and then have to rely on 7 (Everett) and 8 (Ausmus) to drive those runs in with two outs recorded.  And if you had to pitch around Carlos Lee in the 5 hole, does it bother you to do so if the player hitting behind him is Wiggington or Towles or Loretta or Blum?  It wouldn't bother me, Lee would get nothing to hit at that point.

Sound smart to you?

BTW - the player with the second most RBIs on the team in the month of May: Hunter Pence.
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« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2008, 12:41:32 pm »
Rotoworld is fantasy baseball.  'nuff said.

The Astros watchers are in a tizzy lately about Bourn and Towles and why not let's just throw in Ausmus.  But the Astros operatives, Wade, Cooper, Sean Berry, and the writers Footer, Justice and Ortiz have been out in force trying to explain why they're doing what they're doing.  Unfortunately, the crowd looking for a change has a relentless, and ultimately unchallenged, network of support.

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« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2008, 12:49:03 pm »
The Astros watchers are in a tizzy lately about Bourn and Towles and why not let's just throw in Ausmus.  But the Astros operatives, Wade, Cooper, Sean Berry, and the writers Footer, Justice and Ortiz have been out in force trying to explain why they're doing what they're doing.  Unfortunately, the crowd looking for a change has a relentless, and ultimately unchallenged, network of support.

Listen to Pallilo's podcast to hear him say "what makes imminently more sense".  First response to his first caller.  It gets worse after that.  BTW - Charlie refers to Bourn's AB against the Gint's closer on Tuesday night as "pathetic".  3-1, Bourn gets overmatched by two fastballs.

Okay, so let's put Pence in the same situation.  How do you think Pence would fair with two sliders in the same situation?  I give you exhibit A, St. Louis, hitting against a tiring Adam Wainwright with Lee and Berkman on base and the team tied in the ninth inning.  If we're going to go one AB to prove a point, I think we can have that discussion ad nauseum.  When will guys *get it* that lineup construction is what gives a guy the best opportunity to excel.
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Bottom line...the Astros are 10-2 for May.  Why does there need to be a change?  It doesn't get better than that.
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« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2008, 12:53:56 pm »
Bottom line...the Astros are 10-2 for May.  Why does there need to be a change?  It doesn't get better than that.

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« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2008, 12:59:32 pm »
The Astros watchers are in a tizzy lately about Bourn and Towles and why not let's just throw in Ausmus.  But the Astros operatives, Wade, Cooper, Sean Berry, and the writers Footer, Justice and Ortiz have been out in force trying to explain why they're doing what they're doing.  Unfortunately, the crowd looking for a change has a relentless, and ultimately unchallenged, network of support.

Did you just call Ortiz a writer?

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Did you just call Ortiz a writer?

He uses words to make sentences. 

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« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2008, 01:02:43 pm »
He uses words to make sentences. 
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« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2008, 01:07:50 pm »
You just have to hope that the useless radio chatter on Bourn doesn't start influencing the fans in the stands to the degree that a bit of booing begins when he steps out of the on deck circle....

"I'm, uh, how you say....paranoy!"
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You just have to hope that the useless radio chatter on Bourn doesn't start influencing the fans in the stands to the degree that a bit of booing begins when he steps out of the on deck circle....

"I'm, uh, how you say....paranoy!"

You mean as he steps in front of The Man in the seat behind home?  Then, everything Cooper and Wade are trying to do flies out the window.

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« Reply #67 on: May 15, 2008, 01:21:47 pm »
Yessir.

"We'd done it before."
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You just have to hope that the useless radio chatter on Bourn doesn't start influencing the fans in the stands to the degree that a bit of booing begins when he steps out of the on deck circle....


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At which point, the great unwash that attends games at the Coliseum... errr... MMPUS are no better than Phillie Phan.  I'm sure Drayton would rue the day he opened that pandora's box.  Fans thinking they *are* the game is the worse kind of fan.  Next thing you know, they'll be a petition online urging Cooper to remove Bourn from leadoff.  It's happen before.

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« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2008, 01:38:50 pm »
At which point, the great unwash that attends games at the Coliseum... errr... MMPUS are no better than Phillie Phan.  I'm sure Drayton would rue the day he opened that pandora's box.  Fans thinking they *are* the game is the worse kind of fan.  Next thing you know, they'll be a petition online urging Cooper to remove Bourn from leadoff.  It's happen before.

a reply in the blog topic we're refering  to,

"Please explain why many of the ideas or suggestions about the Astros posted by ignorant "knuckleheads" on this and similar blogs are routinely implemented by the Astros management. ....what the team does on the field is pretty apparent and can be judged by anyone with half a brain who understands the game."

They think they're entitled, and no one is telling them different.

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« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2008, 01:44:11 pm »
a reply in the blog topic we're refering  to,

"Please explain why many of the ideas or suggestions about the Astros posted by ignorant "knuckleheads" on this and similar blogs are routinely implemented by the Astros management. ....what the team does on the field is pretty apparent and can be judged by anyone with half a brain who understands the game."

They think they're entitled, and no one is telling them different.


The highlighted line is the great debate, IMHO of course.  Some *think* they have half a brain and also understand the game.  They may understand meta-baseball, baseball as they were taught by fellow ignoramouses (or is it ignorami?), baseball as explained to them by pandering media and of course baseball as they see it all by themselves (and perhaps share in kinship with others unwilling to say that the emporer of an idea they have has no clothes).

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a reply in the blog topic we're refering  to,

"Please explain why many of the ideas or suggestions about the Astros posted by ignorant "knuckleheads" on this and similar blogs are routinely implemented by the Astros management. ....what the team does on the field is pretty apparent and can be judged by anyone with half a brain who understands the game."

They think they're entitled, and no one is telling them different.


One asshole managed to top that:

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Bourn is no rookie and cannot hit as he once again proved that last night going 0-4. I wish everyone would quit cutting this guy so much slack simply because he is black.
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One asshole managed to top that:


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One asshole managed to top that:


And this is the typical poster? Geez.
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« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2008, 01:57:45 pm »
One asshole managed to top that:  "Bourn is no rookie and cannot hit as he once again proved that last night going 0-4. I wish everyone would quit cutting this guy so much slack simply because he is black."

Ugh, as pravata opined, once you open that pandora's box, don't regret it when you get this sort of fan reactions, vitrolic as it may be to your pandering ways, Mr. Media.  But let's take his first part of his rant:
"cannot hit as he once again proved that last night going 0-4"

He had some very good ABs last night and I for one want him to swing or hit like he did last night.  0-4 is performance measurement which is the weakest way to judge if a player is doing his job well.  Even Berkman can have an 0-4 and swing the bat well.  Hell, he (Bourn or Berkman) can swing the bat weakly and luck into a 4-4.  Stupid fans would annoint such a player after one game the next Babe Ruth.  If he's (Berkman or Bourn) is swinging well, you can say to yourself "self, if he's swinging like that, he's going to be alright in the long run" even if the performance metric isn't where it should be.

The question remains: Does Cooper and the Coaches see improvement or just read stat sheets?
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Ugh, as pravata opined, once you open that pandora's box, don't regret it when you get this sort of fan reactions, vitrolic as it may be to your pandering ways, Mr. Media.  But let's take his first part of his rant:
"cannot hit as he once again proved that last night going 0-4"

He had some very good ABs last night and I for one want him to swing or hit like he did last night.  0-4 is performance, but even Berkman can have an 0-4 and swing the bat well.  Hell, he (Bourn or Berkman) can swing the bat weakly and luck into a 4-4.  If he's (Berkman or Bourn) is swinging well, you can say to yourself "self, if he's swinging like that, he's going to be alright in the long run".

I've been very pleased with Bourn's approach, in general, but the AB where he initially made three straight poor bunt attempts left a lot to be desired.
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« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2008, 02:10:03 pm »
And this is the typical poster? Geez.

I dont think that's typical of anyone.  But a larger contingent are saying that Bourn is still playing because Wade wont admit his mistake.  They should have got Aaron Rowand to be in CF, or now, Jim Edmonds, or Kenny Lofton, who's to argue?

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« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2008, 02:10:29 pm »
I've been very pleased with Bourn's approach, in general, but the AB where he initially made three straight poor bunt attempts left a lot to be desired.

He's just not a good bunter... yet.  He needs to work on that, but you're correct on the approach.  Listen to what Cooper said, starting around the 4 minute mark of this interview with Pallilo:

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This is an excerpt from Pallilo's podcast found at the 790 The Sports Animal Podcast page.

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Re: Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2008, 02:10:47 pm »
I dont think that's typical of anyone.  But a larger contingent are saying that Bourn is still playing because Wade wont admit his mistake.  They should have got Aaron Rowand to be in CF, or now, Jim Edmonds, or Kenny Lofton, who's to argue?

I think it's quite apparent that SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!!

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Re: Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2008, 02:12:20 pm »
I dont think that's typical of anyone.  But a larger contingent are saying that Bourn is still playing because Wade wont admit his mistake.  They should have got Aaron Rowand to be in CF, or now, Jim Edmonds, or Kenny Lofton, who's to argue?

I heard Torrii Hunter and the blame was put on Drayton McLane for refusing to pay Hunter's price.  Where do these people come from?

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Re: Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2008, 02:12:48 pm »
I think it's quite apparent that SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!!

Calm down, after the season's over. 

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Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2008, 02:15:29 pm »
I wish everyone would quit cutting Towles so much slack simply because he is ... hey, wait a minute.
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Re: Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2008, 02:20:00 pm »
I wish everyone would quit cutting Towles so much slack simply because he is ... hey, wait a minute.


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Re: Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2008, 03:46:34 pm »
One asshole managed to top that:

Bourn is no rookie and cannot hit as he once again proved that last night going 0-4. I wish everyone would quit cutting this guy so much slack simply because he is black.


Did anyone over there call him a Br'er Rabbit?  'Cos, you know, he's fast.


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Re: Pinwheel has an interesting blog today
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2008, 04:15:59 pm »


Ignoramicans?
maybe just "ignorables"
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